Question About Ys Book I+II US Packaging.

TurboHuC6280 · 03/06/2005, 05:46 PM

I recently purchased Ys Book I+II from a seller on Ebay who neglected to mention that there is no inlay in the CD case for this game. It was delivered in a generic white CD case, with only the instruction manual and game CD. I've noticed that there are several instances of this on Ebay.

Did this game ship as a pack-in game, or something, like the Gate of Thunder 3-in-1 disk did, without a rear case inlay? Did it ship in retail boxes without a case inlay? I've noticed that TTI cheapened the packaging for a lot of games near the end of the Turbo, and neglected to ship Hucards in hard cases (e.g. they just put loose cards in a plastic tray, along with the manual for many games). Did they do this with CDs as well?

The seller insists that the game was like this when it was shipped in the original box, and was not a pack-in.

Keranu · 03/06/2005, 08:42 PM

Yes after a certain point, games were made without the big cardboard box and just the jewel case, instructions, and game. A for Ys, there were two versions released: The original 1990 one when it first came out for the TGCD and then later in 1992 it became a pack game along with a couple of other games for the Turbo Duo system. The Duo pack-in released version had different CD art than the originally released one. The difference was the original had the Ys logo towards the top center of the CD and the Duo released one had "Ys" in italic letters towards the top left side of the CD. As far as the jewel case itself, I'm not sure if the Duo release one had black or white lining, but I know the original had black for the case.

I hope this helps.

TurboHuC6280 · 03/06/2005, 09:02 PM

Quote from: KeranuYes after a certain point, games were made without the big cardboard box and just the jewel case, instructions, and game. A for Ys, there were two versions released: The original 1990 one when it first came out for the TGCD and then later in 1992 it became a pack game along with a couple of other games for the Turbo Duo system. The Duo pack-in released version had different CD art than the originally released one. The difference was the original had the Ys logo towards the top center of the CD and the Duo released one had "Ys" in italic letters towards the top left side of the CD. As far as the jewel case itself, I'm not sure if the Duo release one had black or white lining, but I know the original had black for the case.

I hope this helps.

Thanks for the information. Upon further inspection of a few items on Ebay, it would appear that I have the second version (has the words "Turbo Duo" on the CD). This is just like the one in the second link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8160153814&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8173613387&rd=1#ebayphotohosting

The only difference is that mine does not have the rear-case inlay that is shown. Were most of the DUO pack-ins shipped in any cases at all, or were they those cheapo paper stock covers?

esteban · 03/07/2005, 01:41 AM

hahhaaa.

i just bought the 1992 turboduo version of Ys because I wanted the two different pressings.

the TurboDuo pack-in games included manuals (loose) + CDs... I can't remember if they came in jewel cases or not.

the original release is much nicer, obviously, but go to TZD and you might be able to grab a manual for $3. edit: ooops, i see you have a manual.

If you find a kind soul, they may scan the orginal CD inlay... you'd print it and then fashion your own insert (you're not missing much, the original TG-CD games had all-black inlays... w/ "CD game", game title and "TG-CD" logos... but that's it.

I overpaid for my copy of 1992 Ys. I must have put in a higher bid than I intended. I did snag a nice complete copy of King of Casino for $1 + 3 s/h. so i guess everything evens out.

Keranu · 03/07/2005, 04:03 AM

There is something about King of Casino that makes me love it. I know it's not much of a game because it's just casino kind of stuff, but it's so relaxing to me. I think it's a nostalgic feeling from when I first got into the Turbo scene towards the summer of 2002 and I remember downloading the King of Casino game because my brother was a gambling kind of guy. What makes me remember the game is the music, which is very soothing. If the music wasn't so soothing to me, I probably wouldn't really care for this game at all

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esteban · 03/07/2005, 04:52 AM

Keranu, you rock! No one has ever said such nice things about King of Casino!

Keranu · 03/07/2005, 03:15 PM

Haha, thanks. It might not be an "action-packed game", but it's quite a soothing game because of the soft music and atmosphere. Also I dig the way your guy stays in a hotel (which kind of has a digital comic look) and then goes out cruising for casinos. I'm not a casino game fan, but this is the best one I have played

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DragonmasterDan · 03/09/2005, 04:29 PM

Quote from: KeranuThanks for the information. Upon further inspection of a few items on Ebay, it would appear that I have the second version (has the words "Turbo Duo" on the CD). This is just like the one in the second link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8160153814&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=62053&item=8173613387&rd=1#ebayphotohosting

The only difference is that mine does not have the rear-case inlay that is shown. Were most of the DUO pack-ins shipped in any cases at all, or were they those cheapo paper stock covers?

Yeah, an easy way to distinguish them is that the original TG CD version says TurboGrafx 16 CD on it and the Duo Pack in version says Turbo Duo on it.

NFERNO1 · 03/09/2005, 09:12 PM

This site has quite a few cover/cd scans if you need any. Ys doesn't have much to it though, just a lot of black ink.

www.crazybanana.tk

DragonmasterDan · 03/10/2005, 04:00 PM

Quote from: NFERNO1This site has quite a few cover/cd scans if you need any. Ys doesn't have much to it though, just a lot of black ink.

www.crazybanana.tk

There is a yellow strip that says Ys tm Book I & II on my copy that's above the black "CD GAME" part. That scan on the Pc engine cover site doesn't have the yellow strip on it.

NFERNO1 · 03/11/2005, 08:53 PM

Mine has the same yellow stripe. I never looked at that particular one on the cover site, just assumed it might be the right one.

doomfarer75 · 03/17/2005, 05:43 PM

here's one for you guys: Does the turbo Duo version of Y's1&2 come with the rare map? i don't think so but someone correct me if i am wrong..always make sure when you buy the 1990 version that it has the map if you are collecting...(my hat's off to MONADS for that one..Thanks for the tip!)

esteban · 03/17/2005, 06:29 PM

no, i don't think it came w/ the map. only the instruction manual.

Keranu · 03/18/2005, 08:36 PM

I know the Turbo CD one came with a map.

CrackTiger · 04/09/2005, 06:17 PM

Quote from: KeranuI know the Turbo CD one came with a map.

Not all the Turbo CD versions came with a map. Mine didn't. Neither did my Dragon Slayer(I bought nearly every Turbo game brand new back in the day).

But both were bought here in Canada, so maybe we just got shafted(although I've since found a few used copies locally with maps).

Keranu · 04/09/2005, 10:42 PM

Yeah the Canada point could be very true.

esteban · 04/10/2005, 07:59 AM

Quote from: CrackTiger
Quote from: KeranuI know the Turbo CD one came with a map.

Not all the Turbo CD versions came with a map. Mine didn't. Neither did my Dragon Slayer(I bought nearly every Turbo game brand new back in the day).

But both were bought here in Canada, so maybe we just got shafted(although I've since found a few used copies locally with maps).

That sucks. Perhaps you were unlucky and your initial copy was part of a bad batch.

By the way, where in Canada did you live? I have three US HuCard manuals in French (space harrier was one of them, can't remember the others)... these must have been for Canadian (French) market, right? Have you ever seen any of these french manuals?

Thanks in advance

OldRover · 04/10/2005, 08:34 AM

I've owned two copies of Ys I & II (the first was the one that came as the Duo pack-in and the second I bought from TZD, it came from a Canadian warehouse) and I remember both coming with the map. I wish I still had either of them but I don't. Although it's interesting...the one I got from TZD came with two manuals (English and French) but I tossed the French manual. Again, I wish I hadn't...

CrackTiger · 04/10/2005, 01:27 PM

Quote from: OldRoverI've owned two copies of Ys I & II (the first was the one that came as the Duo pack-in and the second I bought from TZD, it came from a Canadian warehouse) and I remember both coming with the map. I wish I still had either of them but I don't. Although it's interesting...the one I got from TZD came with two manuals (English and French) but I tossed the French manual. Again, I wish I hadn't...

I got both french & english manuals with each of my Turbo games.

But neither my original boxed Ys nor the Turbo Duo pack in ever came with a map.

I guess I was unlucky several times. Thereare probably other titles that were supposed to have maps that I don't know about.

Keranu · 04/10/2005, 02:15 PM

I have a French manuel for Monster Lair. I read on a website once that they were translating manuels in French for the many French people that would import PCE stuff. I don't know if I could find the link again on that one though, but I think the person might be confused.

esteban · 04/10/2005, 02:32 PM

Quote from: KeranuI have a French manuel for Monster Lair. I read on a website once that they were translating manuels in French for the many French people that would import PCE stuff. I don't know if I could find the link again on that one though, but I think the person might be confused.

I wonder if someone has compiled a list of the known french manuals?
If not, we'll start one

My french manuals are for TG-16 HuCard (same layout as US manuals, including cover art), which suggests North America, since France was into the PC Engine.

By the way, I bought L-Dis from a dude in France and it came with a 8.5 x11, 2-sided,xeroxed, translated guide based off of the manual.

Pretty kool, huh? I wish the US importers had done stuff like that back in the day.

French manuals:
CD
1. Ys
2. Monster Lair

HuCard
1. Space Harrier
2. (gotta look)
3. ""

(I'll make a new thread for this list, methinks). I'll also post it at ME forums, since folks there might be more familiar with this

CrackTiger · 04/10/2005, 03:02 PM

Quote from: stevek666
Quote from: KeranuI have a French manuel for Monster Lair. I read on a website once that they were translating manuels in French for the many French people that would import PCE stuff. I don't know if I could find the link again on that one though, but I think the person might be confused.
I wonder if someone has compiled a list of the known french manuals?
If not, we'll start one My french manuals are for TG-16 HuCard (same layout as US manuals, including cover art), which suggests North America, since France was into the PC Engine.

By the way, I bought L-Dis from a dude in France and it came with a 8.5 x11, 2-sided,xeroxed, translated guide based off of the manual.

Pretty kool, huh? I wish the US importers had done stuff like that back in the day.

French manuals:
CD
1. Ys
2. Monster Lair

HuCard
1. Space Harrier
2. (gotta look)
3. ""

(I'll make a new thread for this list, methinks). I'll also post it at ME forums, since folks there might be more familiar with this

Basically, ever Turbo game released in Canada has a french manual(they might've stopped near the end), so just minus the U.S. only titles-

Side Arms
Working Designs titles

I just remember that I also wrote WD a letter back in the day asking them to sell their games in Canada and got a reply saying that they wanted to and were looking into it.

Keranu · 04/10/2005, 09:24 PM

WD didn't sell games to Canada? That's not very nice. Those hosers need to take off, eh?

CrackTiger · 04/10/2005, 10:18 PM

Quote from: KeranuWD didn't sell games to Canada? That's not very nice. Those hosers need to take off, eh?

I had to hork a copy of Vasteel(chose it over Exile, limited Smokes $'s) south of the boarder during a road trip to Seattle.

Before taking off to the Great White North my bro picked up a few SMS games we'd never seen before(GnG, Golden Axe Warrior and something else).

I ordered Exile direct from WD later on and another hosehead I know bought Cosmic 2 a couple years earlier from some mail order import store.

On a different Seattle trip without me, I got my mom to pick Side Arms. Even though my first CD game years back was Side Arms Special(like I said in another post, I was a mad Turbo fan from the get go).

Keranu · 04/10/2005, 10:32 PM

Beauty vocab you have there eh? (hork, hosehead)

Good thing you were able to get some WD games from those knobs.

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Question About Ys Book I+II US Packaging.