Greatest Console, all time

[slinkyturd]

Make your argument!

Mine: Playstation 2

*With an exceptional library that covers just about everything, it's not hard to find several games worth playing regardless of what dictates to you what is worth playing. I'd argue no system has a library better in wide range and quality than Playstation 2. You have compilations from older systems from Atari to Sega Genesis with titles like the Activision Anthology, Taito classics, Sega Genesis Collection, Mega Man Collections and more. Survival horror? Yeah we got several Silent Hill releases, Resident Evil releases and lesser known titles like the X-files game, Clock Tower 3, Cold Fear and others. Light gun games? How 'bout access to 4 Time Crisis games, Resident Evil Dead Aim, End Game, and Dino Crisis. RPGs? Like 10 Final Fantasy releases, Castlevania, and many more. Several fighter games like the DBZ boudokai and Mortal Kombat series. Open world/sandbox games like 3 GTA games, Gun and many more. Stealth games from Tom Clancey to Hitman. God of War I and II, sports games, the list is nearly endless. This system literally had several games in each genre that were all worth owning then and now. This system has a plurality of games that are worth buying the system for and not the other way around.
*It had backwards compatibility like all systems really should. It even carried over to hardware. Sony kept the same controller design from PS1 because it made sense. There really isn't anything wrong with that controller at all. How many times have we been annoyed with a controller change with the next generation of consoles? That didn't happen here.
*It was fantastically received by consumers (150M+ consoles sold), which means the secondary market is affordable now.
*It had beautiful graphics that are still as vibrant and in some cases (see: God of War series or Shadow of the Colossus specifically) still awe inspiring.

[PunkCryborg]

Are you seriously asking that question on the PCEFX forum? I'm pretty sure we all can agree it's the Philips CDi.

[Dicer]

Aside from PCE

Wii, sure it's underpowered compared to the others at the time, but it had fresh games and it can run GAMECUBE games which if the Wii didn't exist would be my choice.


Gamecube was a beast ran fun lil dics and had so many great titles.

Nod to the Dreamcast as well...

[Arkhan Asylum]

Outside of PCE, it's definitely PS1, with Dreamcast right the fuck behind it.

Basically, if Dreamcast hadn't faceplanted, it would've surpassed PS1, PS2, and all that shit.

[TR0N]

Asking on a pce forum is asking to get mauled  Still outside of it the neo-geo,sega saturn and dreamcast when i do think of underrated.

[wildfruit]

Dreamcast all the way

[VestCunt]

PC Engine > NES > then Dreamcast or something I don't own

[HailingTheThings]

That's kind of a tough one, used to be Genesisisisis, then Creamcast, I love the Turbo....hmmm, I'm just gonna picture those three consoles making out for a while... My answer would be the Drammkast... if it had a working PCE Emoolaterrr. Yep.

[PukeSter]

I'll do a dream combo.

N64+Neo Geo

There, I said it. I like the N64. ;)

[Tatsujin]

PC Engine is the greatest console of all time.

it is so great, it doesn't even need to be explained.

[ToyMachine78]

I actually agree with the OP that the PS2 will be the most prolific console of all time. That doesn't mean it has to be your favorite.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

PC Engine is the greatest console of all time.

it is so great, it doesn't even need to be explained.

/thread

[jlued686]

(Obligatory "Turbo/PC Engine is my all-time favorite")

But I agree with the OP. PS2 was just fucking incredible with the depth and quality of its library. I do love the Dreamcast, though, and the Nintendo DS pretty much has the greatest handheld library ever.

[Opethian]

Pioneer Laseractive

access to the whole PCE and Mega Drive library

[Medic_wheat]

Aside from PCE

Wii, sure it's underpowered compared to the others at the time, but it had fresh games and it can run GAMECUBE games which if the Wii didn't exist would be my choice.


Gamecube was a beast ran fun lil dics and had so many great titles.

Nod to the Dreamcast as well...

This

Also I f ok nd it funny that during the xbox ps2 and gc era the gc pushed better graphics and over all looks then the ps2. The main downside is it didnt embrace dvd which is what made many including myself go with a ps2 as a cheap dvd player.

[BigusSchmuck]

The Sega Saturn as it is the console that should have been the true followup of the PCE/Turbo instead of the PCFX.

[slinkyturd]

I think there was a GC that played DVDs but it was something ridiculous like 400 bucks and released like 2-3 years into its lifecycle.

[o.pwuaioc]

Nintendo.

[xcrement5x]

Pioneer Laseractive

access to the whole PCE and Mega Drive library

Don't forget all the awesome boobeh games!

[Medic_wheat]

I think there was a GC that played DVDs but it was something ridiculous like 400 bucks and released like 2-3 years into its lifecycle.

Yes it was a Japan Exclusive that another bordie was selling off recently (as he was moving back to Canada from Japan).

It still comands a preimum, and it kind of cool (all chrome), but a little indulgent for my taste..or maybe I am just to poor to affored one ...


it is probably the poorness factor...

[vexcollects]

1. PCE/TG16
2. SNES (lots of great RPGS, platformers, action adventure titles)
3. Dreamcast

(I might have said Saturn in there, but I only own one game. Have not started hemorrhaging money on that black hole yet)

[jlued686]

The Sega Saturn as it is the console that should have been the true followup of the PCE/Turbo instead of the PCFX.

Very true. The more I dug into the Saturn's library (especially the Japanese titles), the more apparent this became to me. It felt like the true successor to the PC Engine.

[Dicer]

PCE (special place in all our hearts)
Wii/GC (already explained)
Dreamcast (fun quirky Sega's last hardware hurrah hurrah)
Saturn (better 2D than PS1 and better games, PS1 doesn't hold up as well IMHO)
Snes (classic library, dat sound chip)
Neo-Geo (Expensive but awesome)
And the rest can all fight for the rest of the order, all have special games but nothing stands out as a clear front runner.

I'm not including current gen as it's not nearly over yet, but I do enjoy the fuck out of my Wii U, and hardly have interest in the PS4 and none whatsoever for the Xbone.

As for portables

TurboExpress (self explaning)
(3)DS (awesome library)
Lynx (big, ugly, awesome)
etc etc etc

[ctophil]

I would have to say the Super NES was the greatest console.  It had a super large library of games.  Sure, the NES had a larger selection, but with 16-bit graphics and sound, the games were so much more richer and engrossing.  The Atari 2600 got me into video games.  The NES made me become a fan.  The SNES got me playing for life.  The Sega Genesis was a good competitor, but with its "lower quality" graphics & sound, I believe it didn't catch on as much. 

I have to agree with the OP that the Playstation 2 was an awesome system.  But I believe the SNES was the FIRST system to truly dominate the game industry and during a time period where gamers increased by a large margin, comparably to the Atari/Intellivision/Colecovision generation.  I don't think there are any gamer out in the world who don't appreciate the SNES.  You don't have to be a Nintendo fanboy to realize it was a great system.

[Arkhan Asylum]

The Sega Saturn as it is the console that should have been the true followup of the PCE/Turbo instead of the PCFX.

put down the meth.

[tggodfrey]

PS3....hands down.

[reson8er]

PS2 simply for breadth and quality of the library. IMO nothing even comes close.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

But I believe the SNES was the FIRST system to truly dominate the game industry...

The 16 bit generation had no real dominatrix, not compared to almost every other generation anyway.  The SNES outsold the Genny by maybe 25% (similar to the Wii vs. the PS3 or 360); compare that to the 2600 outselling its combined competition ten to one, the NES outselling the SMS five to one, the PS1 outselling the N64 three to one, or the PS2 outselling the xbox, Dreamcast, and Gamecube combined by nearly three to one.

[ctophil]

But I believe the SNES was the FIRST system to truly dominate the game industry...

The 16 bit generation had no real dominatrix, not compared to almost every other generation anyway.  The SNES outsold the Genny by maybe 25% (similar to the Wii vs. the PS3 or 360); compare that to the 2600 outselling its combined competition ten to one, the NES outselling the SMS five to one, the PS1 outselling the N64 three to one, or the PS2 outselling the xbox, Dreamcast, and Gamecube combined by nearly three to one.

Well, I was more referring to the system's overall popularity with gamers, third-party developers, and just in general, as well as its performance in generating a great variety of quality titles.  Personal bias in my local area was a key factor as well.  Hehe.  None of my friends owned a Sega Genesis nor hardly anybody in school at the time.  In fact, one friend had a Turbografx-16, which he showed off to me all the time.  The facts are nice, but it should not be the sole factor in considering "the greatest console of all time." 

I personally love the SNES due its huge library of role-playing games, action/adventure titles, and great platformers.  And who doesn't love Mario and friends?  The only other console that came even close was the Playstation 2.  The people I know these days also can tell you this.  Sony did a great job with the Playstation line of consoles.  But it was still lacking some First-party games that really blew everybody out of the water.  Nintendo did their best on the SNES, since they had some good practice on the NES.  Of course, none of their later consoles did even half as good, comparably as a total package.

[slinkyturd]

A lot of Mode 7 love coming out of the closet in this thread...

[roflmao]

After Obey, I'd say the SNES/Super Famicom gets the most love in this household. PS1/2 and Dreamcast all get honorable mentions.

[BigusSchmuck]

The Sega Saturn as it is the console that should have been the true followup of the PCE/Turbo instead of the PCFX.

put down the meth.

Sounds like someone likes the PC-FX. I just couldn't get into the system, maybe because I don't know Japanese? But yeah, seems like a lot of people here enjoy the snes which isn't a bad thing. I'm just burnt out on it after all these years unlike the PCE and the Saturn so many goodies to explore.

[MrFlutterPie]

For me it is the Super Nintendo.  Massive library that is even bigger then the NES.  It did everything the NES did but bigger and better.  For me it is the pinnacle of both 16 bit gaming and gaming as whole.  No system has ever come close to the awesomeness of the SNES.

Even 20+ years games that were on the SNES continue to make the charts of the best games of all time.

[vexcollects]

SNES had so many Konami games. It's kind of ridiculous. I love my SNES. PCE/TG16 more, but still.

Cybernator
Twinbee
Contra III
Gradius III
Castlevania IV
Sunsetriders
Axelay

[cobrad12]

Minus the pce/turbo, I'll say snes also. Great library of rpgs, chrono trigger, earthbound, ff2 and 3, super mario rpg, secret of mana, lufia 2, etc. I was also a huge UN squadron fan, and so many other memorable games that many people have already mentioned.

[Tatsujin]

8-/16-bit era:

1. PCE
2. MD
3. SFC
4. FC
5. SMS

32-bit and up:

1. PS2 (includes PS1)
2. Saturn
3. DC
4. NGC

[Medic_wheat]

8-/16-bit era:

1. PCE
2. MD
3. SFC
4. FC
5. SMS

32-bit and up:

1. PS2 (includes PS1)
2. Saturn
3. DC
4. NGC

I pretty much aggree but wonder where teh Neo Geo AES would fit in all that?

[slinkyturd]

I honestly wouldn't put Neo Geo or TurboGrafx on the tops lists. I think an argument can be made that because either weren't well received, that they weren't able to reach their fullest potential and therefore are incomplete. Granted both are amazing as they stand. It's just that both could've been so much better.

[Medic_wheat]

I honestly wouldn't put Neo Geo or TurboGrafx on the tops lists. I think an argument can be made that because either weren't well received, that they weren't able to reach their fullest potential and therefore are incomplete. Granted both are amazing as they stand. It's just that both could've been so much better.

I feel that since the Neo Geo never (to my knowledge) got any original console games or other ports from other companies that did not originate as a Neo Geo MVS game, it almost isn't even a home system.

not in the traditional sense........it was simply an Arcade in a box that you could plug into your tv.....

Of course when I say that about its game library I mean during the original system's life span not the cool home brew games we see now a days.

[slinkyturd]

I honestly wouldn't put Neo Geo or TurboGrafx on the tops lists. I think an argument can be made that because either weren't well received, that they weren't able to reach their fullest potential and therefore are incomplete. Granted both are amazing as they stand. It's just that both could've been so much better.

I feel that since the Neo Geo never (to my knowledge) got any original console games or other ports from other companies that did not originate as a Neo Geo MVS game, it almost isn't even a home system.

not in the traditional sense........it was simply an Arcade in a box that you could plug into your tv.....

Of course when I say that about its game library I mean during the original system's life span not the cool home brew games we see now a days.

Also a pretty fair criticism.

[Opethian]

What are you talking about?

I honestly wouldn't put Neo Geo or TurboGrafx on the tops lists. I think an argument can be made that because either weren't well received, that they weren't able to reach their fullest potential and therefore are incomplete. Granted both are amazing as they stand. It's just that both could've been so much better.

I feel that since the Neo Geo never (to my knowledge) got any original console games or other ports from other companies that did not originate as a Neo Geo MVS game, it almost isn't even a home system.

not in the traditional sense........it was simply an Arcade in a box that you could plug into your tv.....

Of course when I say that about its game library I mean during the original system’s life span not the cool home brew games we see now a days.

you are a dumbass

both of you

[Medic_wheat]

What are you talking about?

I honestly wouldn't put Neo Geo or TurboGrafx on the tops lists. I think an argument can be made that because either weren't well received, that they weren't able to reach their fullest potential and therefore are incomplete. Granted both are amazing as they stand. It's just that both could've been so much better.

I feel that since the Neo Geo never (to my knowledge) got any original console games or other ports from other companies that did not originate as a Neo Geo MVS game, it almost isn't even a home system.

not in the traditional sense........it was simply an Arcade in a box that you could plug into your tv.....

Of course when I say that about its game library I mean during the original system's life span not the cool home brew games we see now a days.

you are a dumbass

both of you

Go and see our new movie "Dumb and Dummber 2"!

[Opethian]

its not "simply an arcade box that you could plug into your tv"

it doesn't used the same carts at all

how can you ever draw that conclusion?

do you even know what AES stands for?

[pulstar]

I honestly wouldn't put Neo Geo or TurboGrafx on the tops lists. I think an argument can be made that because either weren't well received, that they weren't able to reach their fullest potential and therefore are incomplete. Granted both are amazing as they stand. It's just that both could've been so much better.

How could the Neo Geo not have reached its fullest potential? It was in arcade rotation (with new games) from 1990-2004. It was is the longest running arcade hardware (and home console). How could that not reach its fullest potential. The Dreamcast, on the other hand, was cut short. That didn't reach its fullest potential.

Anyway, my favourite console (outside of anything Obey related) would be a toss up between Megadrive, SNES/Super Famicom and the Saturn. Although, from a logical perspective, the PS2 is probably the best console ever (great library with access to the PS1 library as well) those three are my favourites.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

I honestly wouldn't put Neo Geo or TurboGrafx on the tops lists. I think an argument can be made that because either weren't well received, that they weren't able to reach their fullest potential and therefore are incomplete. Granted both are amazing as they stand. It's just that both could've been so much better.

Poppycock!  The NeoGeo did exactly what it was supposed to do, as it was never expected to be a direct competitor (in terms of console sales or game library size) to the Genny or SNES; and while the TG-16 didn't do so hot and has a smallish library, the PCE says who gives a fuck?

[slinkyturd]

I honestly wouldn't put Neo Geo or TurboGrafx on the tops lists. I think an argument can be made that because either weren't well received, that they weren't able to reach their fullest potential and therefore are incomplete. Granted both are amazing as they stand. It's just that both could've been so much better.

How could the Neo Geo not have reached its fullest potential? It was in arcade rotation (with new games) from 1990-2004. It was is the longest running arcade hardware (and home console). How could that not reach its fullest potential. The Dreamcast, on the other hand, was cut short. That didn't reach its fullest potential.

Anyway, my favourite console (outside of anything Obey related) would be a toss up between Megadrive, SNES/Super Famicom and the Saturn. Although, from a logical perspective, the PS2 is probably the best console ever (great library with access to the PS1 library as well) those three are my favourites.

It has a library of 55 games! The only system that makes that look respectable is virtual boy. And with a price tag of $650 retail, no one had them. That's why you pay through the nose for them now, because they didn't sell well. I'm posing the argument that if it had been well received, the library would have been vastly larger. I'm saying all the games we could have gotten on that system and didn't, takes it down a peg.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Using your fool's logic, the Bugatti Veyron hasn't met its true potential and has been poorly received.

[slinkyturd]

One cannot make an argument that the veyron isn't the fastest car in the world. One can make the argument that the neo geo isn't even 2nd in it's own generation of consoles.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Are you retarded? 

[slinkyturd]

No. I'm honest and unbiased. Are you retarded?