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Started by Sarumaru, 03/16/2015, 06:15 PM

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NecroPhile

Quote from: poponon on 03/19/2015, 05:49 PMThis is exactly why it's a semantic issue - people ascribe different meanings to certain words; People use different dictionaries. Yes - flashcarts are hardware-based emulation of maskrom based carts. This is where semantics comes in - most people relate "emulation" in gaming to console emulation along with it's negative connotation. This is why I mention the lack of any difference between playing an actual cart versus a flashcart. So - "emulation" is a poor choice of words to describe a flashcart. That's all
Because some people are ignorant and think that the only type of emulation is software emulation, we shouldn't use correct terminology.  That's brilliant!

Some people think whales are fish.  They're not wrong, though, it's just semantics.  :lol:
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poponon

Quote from: guest on 03/19/2015, 06:14 PMBecause some people are ignorant and think that the only type of emulation is software emulation, we shouldn't use correct terminology.  That's brilliant!

Some people think whales are fish.  They're not wrong, though, it's just semantics.  :lol:
That's a bit of a stretch.

But really if you go to any other gaming forum most people will agree that when speaking about gaming emulation we are referring to software emulation. Source - I asked this question on another forum (without bias) and not a single person agreed with emulation as the correct terminology for flashcarts, after 81 replies. Semantics is rooted in culture, and generally in gaming culture we don't see flashcarts as emulation. Despite the fact that some hardware components of a real cart are emulated by new hardware in a flashcart.

wildfruit

I'd say an everdrive is emulation if only for the fact the storage medium for the rom is completely different to a Hucard. There is of course more than this but that is sufficient.
Most important thing : Play, enjoy.

poponon

Quote from: wildfruit on 03/19/2015, 06:35 PMI'd say an everdrive is emulation if only for the fact the storage medium for the rom is completely different to a Hucard. There is of course more than this but that is sufficient.
Most important thing : Play, enjoy.
It'd be neat to do a survey on all relevant forums regarding this. I think most would see emulation related to software console emulation, but collector-heavy communities would have an amount of people seeing flashcarts as emulation.

I think I'm going to go enjoy some non-emulated games on my flashcart now :lol:

Sarumaru

All your arguments are invalid, null and void cuz I procured myself a Coryoon already. And when I get it, I'm gonna boil it.

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HailingTheThings

Quote from: Sarumaru on 03/19/2015, 07:13 PMAll your arguments are invalid, null and void cuz I procured myself a Coryoon already. And when I get it, I'm gonna boil it.

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I knew if I prayed to Jesus hard enough, it would happen.

#YouAreWelcome
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esteban

Quote from: HailingTheThings on 03/20/2015, 12:08 AM
Quote from: Sarumaru on 03/19/2015, 07:13 PMAll your arguments are invalid, null and void cuz I procured myself a Coryoon already. And when I get it, I'm gonna boil it.

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I knew if I prayed to Jesus hard enough, it would happen.

#YouAreWelcome
You were praying for Jesus, though. There is a difference. :)

Still, I think it helped sarumaru procure Coryoon.
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esteban

Quote from: poponon on 03/19/2015, 06:52 PM
Quote from: wildfruit on 03/19/2015, 06:35 PMI'd say an everdrive is emulation if only for the fact the storage medium for the rom is completely different to a Hucard. There is of course more than this but that is sufficient.
Most important thing : Play, enjoy.
It'd be neat to do a survey on all relevant forums regarding this. I think most would see emulation related to software console emulation, but collector-heavy communities would have an amount of people seeing flashcarts as emulation.

I think I'm going to go enjoy some non-emulated games on my flashcart now :lol:
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Sarumaru

Quote from: HailingTheThings on 03/20/2015, 12:08 AM
Quote from: Sarumaru on 03/19/2015, 07:13 PMAll your arguments are invalid, null and void cuz I procured myself a Coryoon already. And when I get it, I'm gonna boil it.

IMG
I knew if I prayed to Jesus hard enough, it would happen.

#YouAreWelcome
Your praying is useless unless you pray to mahKAWK

Opethian

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Gredler

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Quote from: poponon on 03/19/2015, 06:52 PM
Quote from: wildfruit on 03/19/2015, 06:35 PMI'd say an everdrive is emulation if only for the fact the storage medium for the rom is completely different to a Hucard. There is of course more than this but that is sufficient.
Most important thing : Play, enjoy.
It'd be neat to do a survey on all relevant forums regarding this. I think most would see emulation related to software console emulation, but collector-heavy communities would have an amount of people seeing flashcarts as emulation.

I think I'm going to go enjoy some non-emulated games on my flashcart now :lol:
FWIW I agree it should be considered emulation. Emulation that is the closest to the real thing without it being a developer/publisher release. One thing that makes flash carts feel like emulation is how easily a rom can modified or dumped wrong, and unless you dump it yourself and know exactly what you're doing, you never know what is going on in a rom, could be a renamed Keith Courage.rom :P. When I was in my emulation/ROM using years I would often find multiple rips of the same game that would have variances (bad dumps, trainers, hacks.) Sure you can find revisions of the same game (Revenge of Shinobi, anyone?) but those changes were made by the developer and officially released, and are generally either historically epic in notability, or hardly noticeable. I feel like a fan modified version, home brew, and the like, are all adding to the "feeling" of emulation you're referring to card readers as not having. Sure it's the original hardware, but it's potentially a modified Rom, or improperly dumped ROM, etc. All of this on top of the fact there is actual emulation being performed at the hardware level (as discussed,) I side wholly on the idea that using a flash card is a form of emulation, or emulating. Although it is the the best way to play the games aside from retail releases, it's still emulation. I feel like it's a similar argument to the Retron 5. Some actually defend it as not emulation, because you're playing the actual carts. It's the inverse to this argument that has the same answer, emulation at any level is emulation, and there's nothing wrong with any of it. Enjoy the game, and if you want more authenticity there are a great number of options and levels of that authenticity available.

That being said, I am curious how to get a hold of one. I am not way into emulation, but there are quite a few games, such as Coryoon, that I will never be able to justify purchasing even if I can afford, so this is probably the road I need to invest in eventually, if I want to check out the rarez ;).

HailingTheThings

Quote from: Sarumaru on 03/20/2015, 12:16 PM
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 03/20/2015, 12:08 AM
Quote from: Sarumaru on 03/19/2015, 07:13 PMAll your arguments are invalid, null and void cuz I procured myself a Coryoon already. And when I get it, I'm gonna boil it.

IMG
I knew if I prayed to Jesus hard enough, it would happen.

#YouAreWelcome
Your praying is useless unless you pray to mahKAWK Lord Mammon
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Sarumaru

Quote from: HailingTheThings on 03/20/2015, 05:23 PM
Quote from: Sarumaru on 03/20/2015, 12:16 PM
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 03/20/2015, 12:08 AM
Quote from: Sarumaru on 03/19/2015, 07:13 PMAll your arguments are invalid, null and void cuz I procured myself a Coryoon already. And when I get it, I'm gonna boil it.
IMG
I knew if I prayed to Jesus hard enough, it would happen.

#YouAreWelcome
Your praying is useless unless you pray to mahKAWK Lord Mammon
fixed
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HailingTheThings

Quote from: Sarumaru on 03/20/2015, 06:28 PM
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 03/20/2015, 05:23 PM
Quote from: Sarumaru on 03/20/2015, 12:16 PM
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 03/20/2015, 12:08 AM
Quote from: Sarumaru on 03/19/2015, 07:13 PMAll your arguments are invalid, null and void cuz I procured myself a Coryoon already. And when I get it, I'm gonna boil it.

IMG
I knew if I prayed to Jesus hard enough, it would happen.

#YouAreWelcome
Your praying is useless unless you pray to mahKAWK Lord Mammon
fixed
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You're interesting. :333333333333333333333333333333
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Sarumaru

Quote from: HailingTheThings on 03/21/2015, 12:17 AM
Quote from: Sarumaru on 03/20/2015, 06:28 PM
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 03/20/2015, 05:23 PM
Quote from: Sarumaru on 03/20/2015, 12:16 PM
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 03/20/2015, 12:08 AM
Quote from: Sarumaru on 03/19/2015, 07:13 PMAll your arguments are invalid, null and void cuz I procured myself a Coryoon already. And when I get it, I'm gonna boil it.

IMG
I knew if I prayed to Jesus hard enough, it would happen.

#YouAreWelcome
Your praying is useless unless you pray to mahKAWK Lord Mammon
fixed
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You're interesting. :333333333333333333333333333333
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HailingTheThings

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Sarumaru


Trenton_net

Quote from: hoobs88 on 03/18/2015, 12:00 AM
Quote from: MotherGunner on 03/17/2015, 02:53 PMChu card?
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Are these repos sold anywhere in particular? Ie. can you buy them or have them special made? Or are these just one-offs people find or made for themselves?

BigusSchmuck

Quote from: Trenton_net on 03/24/2015, 11:39 AM
Quote from: hoobs88 on 03/18/2015, 12:00 AM
Quote from: MotherGunner on 03/17/2015, 02:53 PMChu card?
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Are these repos sold anywhere in particular? Ie. can you buy them or have them special made? Or are these just one-offs people find or made for themselves?
Talk to chop5, he might have some more.

MotherGunner

This thread is full of 1st World Problems.   >=)
-MG

SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM (If you want peace, Prepare for war)
SI VIS BELLUM, PARA MATRIMONIUM (If you want war, Prepare for marriage)

Sarumaru

Quote from: MotherGunner on 03/24/2015, 05:10 PMThis thread is full of 1st World Problems.   >=)
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MotherGunner

I need glasses.  I read, "BUT IT DIDN'T COME WITH ANAL..."

Giggity.
-MG

SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM (If you want peace, Prepare for war)
SI VIS BELLUM, PARA MATRIMONIUM (If you want war, Prepare for marriage)

Sarumaru

Quote from: MotherGunner on 03/24/2015, 11:23 PMI need glasses.  I read, "BUT IT DIDN'T COME WITH ANAL..."

Giggity.
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esteban

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HOW IN THE WORLD DID I MISS THIS???!!!!

I strongly suspect my phone did not render this properly (I am on Le Compooter now). I'll have to check!

REGARDLESS, this thread is BACK ON TRACK. :)

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Sarumaru

Quote from: esteban on 03/28/2015, 09:52 PM
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HOW IN THE WORLD DID I MISS THIS???!!!!

I strongly suspect my phone did not render this properly (I am on Le Compooter now). I'll have to check!

REGARDLESS, this thread is BACK ON TRACK. :)

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LOL u crack me up.
Also, Blodia looks terrible. :P