What games should I get?

Keranu · 07/12/2007, 02:03 AM

Haha, I like the reverse engineer jokes.

Tatsujin · 07/12/2007, 02:17 AM

Quote from: turbo D on 07/11/2007, 10:50 PMspeaking of games with pant shitting difficulty, how about Daimaikamura for super grafx.

isn't that hard at all. elnino-kun, a board member, was supposed to clear it twice a day back in the good times.

Turbo D · 07/12/2007, 04:03 AM

wow, cool. I beat the sega master version through once, but not the super grafx one.

OldRover · 07/12/2007, 09:28 AM

Quote from: Emerald Rocker on 07/11/2007, 11:13 PMI was making fun of Noltveit's misguided (and ridiculous) idea that he can determine whether a game controls well or not based on code.

It's pretty easy if you know how to trace code and have experience with developing game engines.

offsidewing · 07/12/2007, 09:46 AM

Quote from: Nödtveidt on 07/11/2007, 02:28 PMoffsidewing, stfu.
I do have a recommendation for you though: go out and buy yourself a motorcycle. Now, hacksaw off one handlebar, flatten both tires, and insert a rock into the chain. Then, start that bitch up and try to ride it without killing yourself. Best of luck. If you can do that, I'll consider Shape Shifter a decently-programmed game.

I can't fathom why people take this stuff personally. Maybe it's because they couldn't get into Karolinska Institutet, perhaps it's emotional instability, maybe videogames are the only thing where you exhibit a proficiency, maybe rent is due and you've blown all you cash on Erector Sets? I don't know. I thought we were all supposed to blindy love everything Turbo around here???

It's my opinion that it's weak to complain about a game's controls. I also think it's weak to rationalize. I also never make this stuff personal. My opinions in here are generalities (which could be as weak as rationalizing) while never geared at one person.

As far as the motorcycle thing goes, (I'll get personal now) I own a Harley 1200 Custom and BMW 1200 RT. The Harley handles like crap but is a lot more fun to ride than the very techincally proficient Bimmer. How's that for controls ruining an experience?

Quote from: TurboXray on 07/11/2007, 03:15 PM("cowboy up" ? Please save it for your fellow country boys.)

Picked up the phrase going to college in New England. The phrase may have it's origin's from the more recently settled portions of the US's heartland, but I picked it up around Boston.

Quote from: Keranu on 07/11/2007, 05:01 PM"And Tommy will come by and hit you in the head with a sledge hammer because you are a retard", I assume this is the reference you are referring to .

Hell Yeah! It was just my adaptation of the classic line. And Pssst, it's 'tack hammer' and not 'sledge hammer.'

"Where you calling from a walkie-talkie?"

Anyways, sorry if you don't like my opinions. Voice your opinion in contrast, although don't make it personal.

Keranu · 07/12/2007, 10:11 PM

Quote from: offsidewing on 07/12/2007, 09:46 AMHell Yeah! It was just my adaptation of the classic line. And Pssst, it's 'tack hammer' and not 'sledge hammer.'

"Where you calling from a walkie-talkie?"

Ahh yes, tack hammer!

OldRover · 07/12/2007, 10:14 PM

Nothing personal against you, offsidewing, you're not generally one to stir the pot. It's just that the lamebrained comments from the ones who DO like to stir the pot really piss me off (such as the one with the fat guy comment, or the one who needs to learn how to read in order to spell someone's name correctly), and then you added your comments as well which just made it worse. Bad timing, I suppose.

And besides...there's a major difference between a difference in handling and having something quite broken. If your Harley didn't have handlebars at all, or was missing one, then I'm pretty sure you're not going to have much fun riding it...or even riding it at all. That's the comparison I was trying to make. Bad handling isn't the same as broken handling, just as bad controls in a game isn't the same as broken controls in a game.

But blindly loving everything Turbo around here? C'mon...you know that fanboys suck ass.

_Paul · 07/13/2007, 01:52 PM

I reverse engineered Deep Blue and found that it consisted exclusively of the following components.

PhilBiker · 07/13/2007, 02:53 PM

Quote from: Nödtveidt on 07/10/2007, 08:22 PMThere's a major difference between a game being challenging due to clever level design and being challenging due to a sloppily-coded control scheme. If a game is going to be hard, it needs to be hard on its own merits, not hard because it's difficult to control.

-- cough --- Aero Blasters Zero Gravity -- cough.

PhilBiker · 07/13/2007, 02:53 PM

Quote from: guest on 07/13/2007, 01:52 PMI reverse engineered Deep Blue and found that it consisted exclusively of the following components.

LOL!!!!

Turbo D · 07/13/2007, 03:38 PM

LMAO, yup, that is what deep blue consists of for sure

Nazi NecroPhile · 07/13/2007, 03:40 PM

Quote from: guest on 07/13/2007, 01:52 PMI reverse engineered Deep Blue and found that it consisted exclusively of the following components.

Really? The Deep Blue whole (or is it hole?) must be less than the sum of it's constituent parts.

OldRover · 07/13/2007, 04:35 PM

Hrm...you missed a part. You have to LZ77-decompress the ROM area between $201D and $23A7. In doing so, you will also find this:

Nazi NecroPhile · 07/13/2007, 05:27 PM

Thanks, Nod. Those must be the holes that I was expecting.

Emerald Rocker · 07/13/2007, 07:17 PM

Quote from: Nödtveidt on 07/12/2007, 10:14 PMor the one who needs to learn how to read in order to spell someone's name correctly

Nah, I was just trying to piss you off. For a while I thought you weren't gonna comment on it, but thanks for giving me some satisfaction.

Arjak · 07/13/2007, 08:20 PM

My copy of Lords of Thunder arrived! YAY! I tried it out in Magic Engine and it works great! I can't wait to get my next game.

The game is just as good as everyone says. I can only imagine that any Turbo player who was ANYBODY had this game!

I was thinking about bidding on a copy of YS Book I & II, but the price was getting so high and since I already have the Complete versions, I passed.

Nazi NecroPhile · 07/13/2007, 09:20 PM

Glad you like Lords of Thunder so much - it indeed kicks some major ass. I'd guess that it had to have one of the largest pressings, since the game is so damn good, yet TZD still has it in stock. Surely there aren't that many Turbo owners that don't also own LoT.

GUTS · 07/13/2007, 11:39 PM

It's always hilarious when people on the internet get upset about someone misspelling their fake name. I want to show them their birth certificate and make sure they realize that their name really isn't "darknessdragoonlord" so who fucking cares if anyone misspells it.

_Paul · 07/14/2007, 04:08 AM

Quote from: GUTS on 07/13/2007, 11:39 PMIt's always hilarious when people on the internet get upset about someone misspelling their fake name. I want to show them their birth certificate and make sure they realize that their name really isn't "darknessdragoonlord" so who fucking cares if anyone misspells it.

You got that right Gust.

Turbo D · 07/14/2007, 04:32 AM

right on suntomb-pool

Turbo D · 07/14/2007, 05:09 AM

Oh shit, I just realized that your post count was 666 on friday the 13th. Now that is flipping creepy

_Paul · 07/14/2007, 05:41 AM

Quote from: turbo D on 07/14/2007, 05:09 AM Oh shit, I just realized that your post count was 666 on friday the 13th. Now that is flipping creepy

Muhahahahahahaha!

Actually it is Saturday here when I posted that.

OldRover · 07/14/2007, 06:17 AM

I don't get pissed off because some Internet flunky either can't spell my name or intentionally misspells my name. But I'll let y'all think that I do.

Jerks.

Arjak · 07/14/2007, 03:51 PM

:shock:Holy Shit! Have you guys checked out ebay today!? HALLELUAH! (sp?)

Now I have a problem, though. Which game should I get!?

The choices are:

Ys 3
Gate of Thunder 3 in 1
Exile
Cosmic Fantasy 2

Hurry, tell me before they're gone!

TurboXray · 07/14/2007, 04:17 PM

Quote from: GUTS on 07/13/2007, 11:39 PMIt's always hilarious when people on the internet get upset about someone misspelling their fake name. I want to show them their birth certificate and make sure they realize that their name really isn't "darknessdragoonlord" so who fucking cares if anyone misspells it.

'Cause EmerildRock0x0r's a mothafuckingtrollonplane?

RuninRuder · 07/14/2007, 04:20 PM

Quote from: Arjak on 07/14/2007, 03:51 PM:shock:Holy Shit! Have you guys checked out ebay today!? HALLELUAH! (sp?)

Now I have a problem, though. Which game should I get!?

The choices are:

Ys 3
Gate of Thunder 3 in 1
Exile
Cosmic Fantasy 2

Hurry, tell me before they're gone!

Gate of Thunder is the best of those. Exile is by far the worst.

TurboXray · 07/14/2007, 04:29 PM

I wouldn't say it's the worst by "far". It's decent, cool, and easy.

Emerald Rocker · 07/14/2007, 04:32 PM

I would, but that doesn't mean Exile is bad. It's just not a classic like the others.

I agree that Gate is definitely the best of those.

_Paul · 07/14/2007, 05:30 PM

Gate of Thunder without a doubt. Then Ys 3 for the music.

Keranu · 07/14/2007, 06:42 PM

Quote from: Emerald Rocker on 07/14/2007, 04:32 PMI would, but that doesn't mean Exile is bad. It's just not a classic like the others.

I agree that Gate is definitely the best of those.

Completely agreed.

Arjak · 07/15/2007, 12:12 AM

Gate of Thunder has been ordered. Thanks for your support!

P.S. In other unrelated news, I found a working copy of Mario 3 for my NES in a game shop, and I just so happened to have a gift cirtificate for the shop. Today must have been my lucky gaming day!

Turbo D · 07/15/2007, 01:05 AM

I like mario 3 the best out of the other nes marios. Have fun playing it

Arjak · 07/15/2007, 05:06 PM

Thanks, it is a good game. Doesn't make Ice Land any easier, that world is a BITCH!

In other news:

When my copy of Lords of Thunder arrived, the case had a huge crack in the side. So, the othe day, I transplanted the game, manual, and back insert to another, nicer looking case. It looks brand new, now. I love it. Maybe I'll post pictures if there's any interest.

I hope my copy of Gate of Thunder arrives soon. Can't wait to play it. I also get really impatient when waiting for games to arrive. Especially one I'm looking forward to. Sometimes I even find myself waiting for the mail. The day Lords arrivied, the mail was extremely late. I was so pissed off, I just sat there waiting, knowing it would come that day because that was the ONLY possible reason luck would do this to me.

I'm also waiting to see if I win the Magic Engine game contest. This month, the game is Legend of Heroes II. I entered on the hopes that I can get a copy of the first and that the second is translated.

Arjak · 07/16/2007, 07:29 PM

I have a question for anyone who has played Dead of the Brain 1 & 2. Is it worth the obscenely-high prices? I read that there is a translation in the works and it looks interesting.

Not to mention I have a soft spot for horror.

CrackTiger · 07/16/2007, 08:38 PM

Quote from: Arjak on 07/16/2007, 07:29 PMI have a question for anyone who has played Dead of the Brain 1 & 2. Is it worth the obscenely-high prices? I read that there is a translation in the works and it looks interesting.

Not to mention I have a soft spot for horror.

I played part way through each, but it didn't seem very special by PCE digi comic standards.

Arjak · 07/17/2007, 06:07 PM

My copy of Gate of Thunder arrived in record time.

Unfortunately, there's a sound bug in Magic Engine that keeps me from enjoying it!

Also, did the 3 in 1 disk come with a back insert, originally? My copy doesn't have one.

turbofan1 · 07/17/2007, 07:55 PM

Quote from: Arjak on 07/16/2007, 07:29 PMI have a question for anyone who has played Dead of the Brain 1 & 2. Is it worth the obscenely-high prices? I read that there is a translation in the works and it looks interesting.

There is really nothing special about Dead Of Brain 1&2.I wouldn't pay the $200.00-$300.00 asking price for it.I am also A fan of survival horror.So I am looking forward to the eventual translation of it.

nat · 07/17/2007, 11:06 PM

Quote from: Arjak on 07/17/2007, 06:07 PMUnfortunately, there's a sound bug in Magic Engine that keeps me from enjoying it!

Sounds like it's time to buy a TurboGrafx-16 or a Duo.

TurboXray · 07/18/2007, 01:01 AM

what sound bug?

Turbo D · 07/18/2007, 01:05 AM

maybe magic engine emulated the capacitors burning out

thewestexit · 07/18/2007, 01:12 AM

Quote from: Arjak on 07/17/2007, 06:07 PMAlso, did the 3 in 1 disk come with a back insert, originally? My copy doesn't have one.

No, it did not come with a back insert originally. A few people have made their own homemade inserts though.

PhilBiker · 07/18/2007, 09:29 AM

Quote from: Arjak on 07/17/2007, 06:07 PMAlso, did the 3 in 1 disk come with a back insert, originally? My copy doesn't have one.

No, it did not. Do a search here for some amusing examples you can print yourself.

Arjak · 08/23/2007, 01:35 PM

Bump. I found an interesting deal. I found mint copies of both Cosmic Fantasy 2 and Exile. The only problem is, I can only afford one. Which is the better game?

Arjak · 08/23/2007, 01:44 PM

Sorry for the double post, but it turns out that I do have enough for both. Never mind.

Keranu · 08/23/2007, 04:58 PM

Quote from: Arjak on 08/23/2007, 01:35 PMBump. I found an interesting deal. I found mint copies of both Cosmic Fantasy 2 and Exile. The only problem is, I can only afford one. Which is the better game?

Depends on your genre preference. Cosmic Fantasy 2 is a fantastic RPG for it's amazing journey, characters, and cinemas but the other aspects of the game, like the graphics and standard RPG gameplay, might turn you off like others. Exile is better if you're more into straight forward games with platform action in it, but the easy challenge and short quest might not be enough for you, despite being a fun game overall. I personally think CF2 is a better game, but like I said it all depends on what you're more into.

Arjak · 08/24/2007, 01:05 PM

Thanks. I did end up ordering both and it sounds like I should enjoy both. They both sound like fun. Can't wait for them to arrive!

Keranu · 08/24/2007, 04:34 PM

You're welcome.

Enjoy!

rag-time4 · 08/30/2007, 03:55 PM

Quote from: nat on 07/17/2007, 11:06 PM
Quote from: Arjak on 07/17/2007, 06:07 PMUnfortunately, there's a sound bug in Magic Engine that keeps me from enjoying it!
Sounds like it's time to buy a TurboGrafx-16 or a Duo.

I'm definitely with Nat...

Collecting the various bits and pieces that go into the TurboDuo / PC-Engine has been a big part of the fun for me. Right now I'm trying to get my hands on a "Save-kun" backup memory unit made by Koei, since I'm a huge fan of Koei games (many of which are available as Japanese TurboDuo CDs) but the games can't be saved without the backup memory unit.

There is a 128mb backup unit on ebay now, and I read elsewhere that the two backup units are compatible, so I may get the one on ebay until I can find Koei's version.

rag-time4 · 08/30/2007, 04:08 PM

Quote from: Arjak on 07/11/2007, 07:21 PMCan we please stop with the flaming each other? It's driving me crazy!

Listen, we can bitch about games all we want. It's not going to change anything. I, being a veteran gamer, understand that there is a fine line between a tough game and a cheap game. Contra is a prime example, the classic games in the series are known for their pants-shitting difficulty, but it's not because the game threw all kinds of cheap shots at you just to piss you off (except for maybe the bulldozers in the tundra of the first game), it's because the game was well tuned. Heck, they even threw in the Konami code in some of them to let average-skilled gamers play. That's why it's a classic, because it's tough, not because the game was cheating, but because human beings often fuck up. But if we fight about it, insult each other's gaming skills, and continue to be jerks to other posters, it's just going to make things hard on everyone.

Remember: It's not about the game being the best ever, it's about having fun.

I think I'll try Shape Shifter, if I like it, fine. If I don't, well, It's only thirty dollars.

I didn't mean to start this flame war, but I hope this finishes it.

OK, rant over.

Very well said. Reading this little flame war has made me want to buy shape shifter... I've been debating whether or not to buy it new since I've been buying a lot of import stuff, but now I have to try it and see what the fuss is about.

A couple of CD games I recommend are Fatal Fury 2 and Ys 3.

I enjoyed Ys 3 more than I did 1 + 2 (blasphemy?) Ys 3 has some very retro-feeling music. I get a kick out of playing the music in my car. It's a bit of an easy game, but I really enjoyed it. One knock on the game is that the background scrolling is a bit choppy in some parts. It's not nearly as smooth in the background scrolling department as the SNES version but the music and difficulty level are much more enjoyable (in my opinion)

Fatal Fury 2 is very cheap, even new (should be under 10 bucks) and some of the music is better than the Neo Geo arcade version, in my opinion. If you enjoy this genre of game, this might be the best version of Fatal Fury 2. I'd definitely recommend having a 6-button controller though (or since you are emulating, at least 4 buttons)

nat · 08/30/2007, 04:33 PM

QuoteI enjoyed Ys 3 more than I did 1 + 2 (blasphemy?) Ys 3 has some very retro-feeling music. I get a kick out of playing the music in my car. It's a bit of an easy game, but I really enjoyed it. One knock on the game is that the background scrolling is a bit choppy in some parts. It's not nearly as smooth in the background scrolling department as the SNES version but the music and difficulty level are much more enjoyable (in my opinion)

I posted some comments about this recently. I've personally only gotten into the Ys series this past year since I wasn't a big fan of RPGs when I was younger. I own them all now, but I haven't completed II or IV yet.

Ys III put simply, just fucking rocks. I had more fun playing through Ys III than I've had with the other three [so far]. I just couldn't put it down until I finished it. I prefer the style and melodies on III over anything I've heard of the others.

And despite a glaring technical flaw (the scrolling in certain portions), the game is still a must-own. And that's just a testament to it's greatness.