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I bought a NEO GEO AES

Started by Gredler, 05/25/2017, 08:06 AM

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GohanX

Well, this thread went places.

Kidpanda

Quote from: Gredler on 06/22/2017, 06:30 PMlol sengoku on mvs is affordable, eh?!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEO-GEO-SENGOKU-MVS-ORIGINAL-SNK-/182626524803?hash=item2a85639e83:g:p1wAAOSwjvJZPEz9

I guess I should get a converter and that game? It is one of the few neo geo games I really care to get and play through
I love Sengoku, but the hit colliision is so bad in it, I've worked on that game off and on for about 5 years and can get to the 3rd stage on a credit, but I guess I might have to resort to watching a superplay to figure out how to get around the cheapness of it.

Gredler

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Quote from: Kidpanda on 06/22/2017, 06:38 PMI love Sengoku, but the hit colliision is so bad in it, I've worked on that game off and on for about 5 years and can get to the 3rd stage on a credit, but I guess I might have to resort to watching a superplay to figure out how to get around the cheapness of it.
I can't really remember how far I used to get, but I remember loving flying up into the sky, and changing into a different type of warrior - I always thought it was so cool.

The lack of variable credit amount makes it super difficult for the games I have, is there a way to add credits? Is that exclusive to MVS games? on my primal rage cab I set it to be free-play, that'd be nice on these games :)

Kidpanda

Quote from: Gredler on 06/22/2017, 06:43 PM
Quote from: Kidpanda on 06/22/2017, 06:38 PMI love Sengoku, but the hit colliision is so bad in it, I've worked on that game off and on for about 5 years and can get to the 3rd stage on a credit, but I guess I might have to resort to watching a superplay to figure out how to get around the cheapness of it.
I can't really remember how far I used to get, but I remember loving flying up into the sky, and changing into a different type of warrior - I always thought it was so cool.

The lack of variable credit amount makes it super difficult for the games I have, is there a way to add credits? Is that exclusive to MVS games? on my primal rage cab I set it to be free-play, that'd be nice on these games :)
The best thing is to get a Unibios added, it lets you run in MVS mode and unlimited credits, some of the AES mose stuff only allows 4 credits.

Gypsy

Quote from: Gredler on 06/22/2017, 06:30 PMlol sengoku on mvs is affordable, eh?!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEO-GEO-SENGOKU-MVS-ORIGINAL-SNK-/182626524803?hash=item2a85639e83:g:p1wAAOSwjvJZPEz9

I guess I should get a converter and that game? It is one of the few neo geo games I really care to get and play through
How much is the converter? Ghetto superguns are pretty cheap.

Gredler

I can't find a cheap converter, though I've not looked hard, 280 or 380 + ship.

Then $60 for a game, I figure shit I am more than half way to a Neo SD, and if I want any more games I'm that much closer.


Gredler

That's pretty rad, so I would get that and MVS games?

Gypsy

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You could I think, yes.

Gredler

Definitely tempting. I want to get some more jamma boards to swap out into my cab, and so this would probably be good to invest in for that as well (Testing, playing) etc.. thanks for the req :)

crazydean

Quote from: Gredler on 06/22/2017, 08:48 PMThat's pretty rad, so I would get that and MVS games?
All the MVS stuff kinda confuses me, but I think the supergun basically converts the MVS to an output usable by a tv. So you still have to buy an MVS motherboard.

Gredler

Ahhh that makes way more sense. I will probably just go neo SD route because I am a dumb lazy entitled noob

esteban

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/22/2017, 05:01 PMChanging carts is not a pain in the ass. It's part of the experience. Reducing everything to a fucking file name is just...fuck. I guess I can't explain it to you if you don't already get it. The CRUX of the Neo Geo, of anything, is the enormous carts. They made the Neo what it was. Now you old geezers are too weak and weary to change games manually? Do you have MS? If so, I'm sorry,  it if not, why are you playing this old junk anyway?

...

What I find distasteful is the now extremely prevelent axiom that game systems can't fully occupy your time %100 unless you have every game. That being "confined" to a small title selection is a bad thing. It's not. It's not bad AT ALL because you have only a finite amount of time to spend on gaming anyway.
Thank you, this is how I feel in general (I don't own Neo Geo).

Note: One of the best posts I have read in a long time.

SOAPBOX:
Now, I might piss you off, but I also find the entire "purity of video signal" Videophile Club extremely annoying, too.

You do *not* have to have the purest video signal to enjoy a video game.

But I'm regurgitating an old debate (in the past, I have argued that, for myself, the stock system + stock CRT TV =  a more "authentic" experience of what playing a game was like in 198_ or 199_ ... I am trying to approximate the actual experience, but I do have some flexibility. We all draw the line in different places. My priorities/criteria have often clashed with the folks who lust for das übersignal of video superiority...

Now, I have dabbled in the last few years with some RGB mods and... I stand by my original argument. Even a stock Genesis, which has some really weak/lame video output, can provide infinite fun and enjoyment. Amazingly, as it turns out, the games are just as fucking fun (or not) pre-RGB as they are post-RGB.

SUMMARY: Basically I have a fetish for _____ and prioritize it above someone else's fetish for _____. Just don't tell me I'm doing it wrong.
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Gredler

I'm with you man. My hdtv and ps4 can focus on crisp video and mega speakers with refined audio.

My, what I call analog, systems are all either composite, svideo, or component - stock hookups to a crt. Maybe a little fuzzy, maybe a bit off colored or artifacted, but still play great and look like I remember them looking all those years ago.

Good times

Gypsy

If you aren't playing it on a garbage former walmart special that you picked up off the curb you're doing it wrong!

Don't @ me este.

Okay if I'm being more serious though, I think either way is totally fine. At most I will suggest mods/RGB to someone that didn't know about them if they are complaining about how it looks. If they want to keep using RF or composite, that's their prerogative. I could never use RF again, but like PCE composite isn't bad.

And yes Zeta's post was damn hilarious.

o.pwuaioc

Quote from: esteban on 06/23/2017, 07:25 AM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/22/2017, 05:01 PMChanging carts is not a pain in the ass. It's part of the experience. Reducing everything to a fucking file name is just...fuck. I guess I can't explain it to you if you don't already get it. The CRUX of the Neo Geo, of anything, is the enormous carts. They made the Neo what it was. Now you old geezers are too weak and weary to change games manually? Do you have MS? If so, I'm sorry,  it if not, why are you playing this old junk anyway?

...

What I find distasteful is the now extremely prevelent axiom that game systems can't fully occupy your time %100 unless you have every game. That being "confined" to a small title selection is a bad thing. It's not. It's not bad AT ALL because you have only a finite amount of time to spend on gaming anyway.
Thank you, this is how I feel in general (I don't own Neo Geo).

Note: One of the best posts I have read in a long time.

SOAPBOX:
Now, I might piss you off, but I also find the entire "purity of video signal" Videophile Club extremely annoying, too.

You do *not* have to have the purest video signal to enjoy a video game.

But I'm regurgitating an old debate (in the past, I have argued that, for myself, the stock system + stock CRT TV =  a more "authentic" experience of what playing a game was like in 198_ or 199_ ... I am trying to approximate the actual experience, but I do have some flexibility. We all draw the line in different places. My priorities/criteria have often clashed with the folks who lust for das übersignal of video superiority...

Now, I have dabbled in the last few years with some RGB mods and... I stand by my original argument. Even a stock Genesis, which has some really weak/lame video output, can provide infinite fun and enjoyment. Amazingly, as it turns out, the games are just as fucking fun (or not) pre-RGB as they are post-RGB.

SUMMARY: Basically I have a fetish for _____ and prioritize it above someone else's fetish for _____. Just don't tell me I'm doing it wrong.
I'm almost right there with you. I do like to cheat a bit, chiefly by region mods. I'd rather not get a separate JP system (just no room!) so my PC Engine Duo, Genesis, and Saturn are all region-modded. (SNES, too, of course, by removing those tabs, and I have a JP boot disc for my Dreamcast.) I don't mind this too much, though, since importing was a real thing BITD, even if I myself never had that opportunity, and Game Genies for cheats and import devices aren't that different conceptually.

That said, my Gensis is component modded, but because it came that way (I only wanted a region-modded one, so the mod was bonus). The difference is definitely there, but it doesn't really detract from the experience at all. Memories are fuzzy things, after all.

Also, light guns don't work on flatscreens! A CRT is definitely the way to go.

xcrement5x

At first I was like, WTF Zeta wrote a goddamn novel, then I read this gem.

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/22/2017, 05:01 PMIt may feel great to say "Finally, now I have a three foot long penis" but when you realize there are no three foot deep vaginas you may feel dumb...if you ever realize that at all.
And I went back and re-read the post again and was like, I can see where you are kind coming from man.  But also, I am pretty damn drunk right now too. 
Demented Clone Warrior Consensus: "My pirated forum clone is superior/more "moral" than yours, neener neener neener..."  ](*,)

seieienbu

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/22/2017, 05:01 PMI'm bringing my 2003 cart with me to MGC 2018 and if anyone beats me 3 out of 5 it will prove I'm talking out of my ass and I'll take it all back. All you channel flippiers with Neo Geos have less than a year to practice, get to it. I look forward to this because I'm only about %51 sure that I'm the best KOF player here...
I'm halfway tempted to pick up 2k3, head to MGC, and and take you up on the challenge Zeta.  Not to prove you wrong, just because I like fighting games and the whole event sounds interesting. 

My Neo Geo fighter of choice was Mark of the Wolves.  I've played it since it was new and have now purchased the game on 5 different platforms.  I was ranked #1 on Xbox Live leaderboards when I could still find opponents.  An old roommate of mine and I used to determine who would do chores like wash the dishes with matches at the game.  Recently, an arcade near me had a pair of tournaments for the game and I won both of them.  With some of the prize money from one of them I finally broke down and bought an MVS copy of the game. 

I don't own very many of MVS games and am hesitant to buy them at all because I don't trust even MVS games to be legit, but I figured it was high time that I had a real copy of the game.  There's about 8 or so more games that I actively want for the platform and a total of about 50 games that I would nebulously like to own. 

I don't agree that flash carts are the antithesis of all things arcade-y but I definitely respect the idea of sticking to one game and absolutely mastering it to the best of your ability.  If you have to go beyond that and improve yourself to get even better at the game?  That's when challenging games become the most fun and when your wins over the computer or your opponent feel the most rewarding.
Current want list:  Bomberman 93