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sonikthehedgehog

07/24/2017, 05:25 PM
Trying to determine if my sealed Dynastic Hero is a fake. The reasons I'm doubting it are:
The manual has wear.
The other sealed duo games I have didn't have that band going around the shrink wrap.
The manual's spine looks worn.
Looking at it through the sides it also looks like there aren't any pages in the manual.

If any one has any pictures of Dyanstic Hero's manual or the back art itself I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, guys

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Also, if this is in the wrong forum please let me know.

Nazi NecroPhile

#1
07/24/2017, 05:44 PM
Open it up and find out.  There's no known pressed discs using art identical to the originals, and you'll be able to count pages and better see the quality of paper/printing used.
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Medic_wheat

#2
07/24/2017, 05:47 PM
Might be a reseal.

But if you think it's fake send it to be for the cost of posting. I'll open it and play it.

esteban

#3
07/24/2017, 05:49 PM
Absolutely.

Open that up so I can compare it to mine (which is already opened).

Also, it will be fun to see if the version you have (TTi, North America) is similar/different than mine (Japanese version).

I will take photos.
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DragonmasterDan

#4
07/24/2017, 05:49 PM
I find it interesting that a game that was mail order through Turbo Zone Direct only and not sold in stores has a hangtab.
--DragonmasterDan

HailingTheThings

#5
07/24/2017, 06:03 PM
Looks fake, judging by the pictures of the manual through the bottom/top of the case. Either open it up or return it. Pick one.
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Arkhan Asylum

#6
07/24/2017, 06:06 PM
lol I think that is fake.   the doofy spine leads me to believe this, along with the wear that is usually the result of less-good-quality print shop print+fold procedures.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

sonikthehedgehog

#7
07/24/2017, 06:50 PM
Thanks for the input guys. I was pretty sure it's a fake. Just wanted to ask the community. I will just send it back.

turboswimbz

#8
07/24/2017, 06:56 PM
this may help:  (you or someone else wondering something similar) 

REAL
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FAKE  videogamereproductions.com

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NW: Hey, I made it on this psycho's Enemies' List, how about that ?? ;)
BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

CrackTiger

#9
07/24/2017, 06:56 PM
That's definitely not a factory seal, so there's no point in keeping your copy less valuable by leaving bootleg packaging around the exterior.

The manual pages do tend to remain tight to each side, but one of those side views looks different.

The colors look off, but it could just be the poor lighting of the photos.

"THE LAND OF TARROM..." text should be cobalt and the text below the recycled paper notice looks like it is supposed to be the same ink/color as the cover's giant DUO logo.

You back photo looks like there is an extra strip of print along the top that shouldn't be there. The artwork pic with the logo near the top ends at the top, just as it ends at the orange stripe below.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

PukeSter

#10
07/25/2017, 11:52 AM
Consensus on here is that it's fake. Definitely open it OP

tbone3969

#12
07/25/2017, 11:55 AM
It's real.
"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

sonikthehedgehog

#13
07/25/2017, 12:02 PM
Quote from: bob on 07/25/2017, 11:54 AMdon't say you bought this one...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbografx-The-Dynastic-Hero-SEALED-/282563681262?hash=item41ca1b9bee%3Ag%3A7DkAAOSwi8VZVr5l&nma=true&si=TycTGxycR5pa9tSadf2iusU2T1c%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
I did. I honestly just need dynastic hero to complete my cd collection and I threw a bid on it. Guess I should've taken the time to really look over the pictures.

sonikthehedgehog

#14
07/25/2017, 12:02 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 07/25/2017, 11:55 AMIt's real.
Why do you say that?

Psycho Punch

#15
07/25/2017, 12:03 PM
lmao
This Toxic Turbo Turd/Troll & Clone Warrior calls himself "Burning Fight!!" at Neo-Geo.com
For a good time reach out to: aleffrenan94@gmail.com or punchballmariobros@gmail.com
Like DildoKobold, dildos are provided free of charge, no need to bring your own! :lol:
He too ran scripts to steal/clone this forum which blew up the error logs! I deleted THOUSANDS of errors cause of this nutcase!
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tbone3969

#16
07/25/2017, 12:06 PM
Quote from: sonikthehedgehog on 07/25/2017, 12:02 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 07/25/2017, 11:55 AMIt's real.
Why do you say that?
I'm sorry.  I just couldn't resist.  In all honesty it does not look real to me.  Should be an easy return for you as it seems the seller has good feedback. 

Good luck.
"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

bob

#17
07/25/2017, 12:08 PM Last Edit: 07/25/2017, 12:10 PM by bob
You can buy this one.  Unless you need the 5 TTI points.

Didn't a Bonk 3 CD just sell for like $5k sealed?  I would think DH would catch more than 1300.
Maybe many bidders had suspicions which scared them away.

sonikthehedgehog

#18
07/25/2017, 12:12 PM
Quote from: bob on 07/25/2017, 12:08 PMYou can buy this one.  Unless you need the 5 TTI points.

Didn't a Bonk 3 CD just sell for like $5k sealed?  I would think DH would catch more than 1300.
Maybe many bidders had suspicions which scared them away.
Yeah I saw that one. I knew this wasn't a legit seal. I was just hoping it was a minty copy when I opened it.

The seller had some other high dollar stuff including a complete stadium events they sold. So, I figured they were on the up and up. Honestly I just think he didn't know it was fake.

sonikthehedgehog

#19
07/25/2017, 12:13 PM
Quote from: bob on 07/25/2017, 12:08 PMYou can buy this one.  Unless you need the 5 TTI points.

Didn't a Bonk 3 CD just sell for like $5k sealed?  I would think DH would catch more than 1300.
Maybe many bidders had suspicions which scared them away.
Yeah and it was the same seller. I threw up a bid not expecting to win.

Arkhan Asylum

#20
07/25/2017, 12:43 PM
yeah its real

fake.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

LostFlunky

#21
07/25/2017, 02:35 PM
Quote from: sonikthehedgehog on 07/25/2017, 12:12 PM
Quote from: bob on 07/25/2017, 12:08 PMYou can buy this one.  Unless you need the 5 TTI points.

Didn't a Bonk 3 CD just sell for like $5k sealed?  I would think DH would catch more than 1300.
Maybe many bidders had suspicions which scared them away.
Yeah I saw that one. I knew this wasn't a legit seal. I was just hoping it was a minty copy when I opened it.

The seller had some other high dollar stuff including a complete stadium events they sold. So, I figured they were on the up and up. Honestly I just think he didn't know it was fake.
His feedback is full of bootlegs and real stuff - tough call...

esteban

#22
07/25/2017, 02:41 PM
Q: So, how is the game? It is fun, with some "puzzles" to solve...
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crazydean

#23
07/25/2017, 03:32 PM
Quote from: esteban on 07/25/2017, 02:41 PMQ: So, how is the game? It is fun, with some "puzzles" to solve...
Nobody cares. Games are for putting on a shelf, not playing. You new around here?

Medic_wheat

#24
07/25/2017, 04:01 PM
Quote from: esteban on 07/25/2017, 02:41 PMQ: So, how is the game? It is fun, with some "puzzles" to solve...
I think someone hacked your account. I didn't see one reffernace to comrades in that entire statement.

CrackTiger

#25
07/25/2017, 04:01 PM Last Edit: 07/25/2017, 04:04 PM by Black Tiger
Quote from: bob on 07/25/2017, 11:54 AMdon't say you bought this one...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbografx-The-Dynastic-Hero-SEALED-/282563681262?hash=item41ca1b9bee%3Ag%3A7DkAAOSwi8VZVr5l&nma=true&si=TycTGxycR5pa9tSadf2iusU2T1c%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
Not only does it look even more fake in the auction photos, some of those shots don't make sense for showing condition and seem to be 'bootleg disclaimers'.


Quote from: sonikthehedgehog on 07/25/2017, 12:02 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 07/25/2017, 11:55 AMIt's real.
Why do you say that?
You're asking someone who is regularly asked similar questions in response to his posts, until you learn to just not take them seriously.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

LostFlunky

#26
07/25/2017, 04:54 PM
Quote from: guest on 07/25/2017, 04:01 PMNot only does it look even more fake in the auction photos, some of those shots don't make sense for showing condition and seem to be 'bootleg disclaimers'.
Truth!  The 3/4 view of the spine and back shows me a folded, cracking piece of dollar store photo paper...

As I said - he has lots of feedback as a PCE works reseller too.

Arkhan Asylum

#27
07/25/2017, 05:06 PM
just take the disc out, put a blank CD in, reseal it, and return it
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

NoSexGex

#28
07/25/2017, 05:12 PM
Ahhhh so that's who won this.. And here I thought the top bids were just troll bids lol

Quote from: bob on 07/25/2017, 12:08 PMDidn't a Bonk 3 CD just sell for like $5k sealed?
wtff who does this

tbone3969

#29
07/25/2017, 05:32 PM
Quote from: guest on 07/25/2017, 05:12 PMAhhhh so that's who won this.. And here I thought the top bids were just troll bids lol

Quote from: bob on 07/25/2017, 12:08 PMDidn't a Bonk 3 CD just sell for like $5k sealed?
wtff who does this
Worth every penny.
"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

bob

#30
07/25/2017, 05:37 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 07/25/2017, 05:32 PM
Quote from: guest on 07/25/2017, 05:12 PMAhhhh so that's who won this.. And here I thought the top bids were just troll bids lol

Quote from: bob on 07/25/2017, 12:08 PMDidn't a Bonk 3 CD just sell for like $5k sealed?
wtff who does this
Worth every penny.
even YOU can't flip a $5K sealed Bonk 3 CD for profit.  Until you factor in your shipping charge.
 :P

tbone3969

#31
07/25/2017, 05:42 PM
Quote from: bob on 07/25/2017, 05:37 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 07/25/2017, 05:32 PM
Quote from: guest on 07/25/2017, 05:12 PMAhhhh so that's who won this.. And here I thought the top bids were just troll bids lol

Quote from: bob on 07/25/2017, 12:08 PMDidn't a Bonk 3 CD just sell for like $5k sealed?
wtff who does this
Worth every penny.
even YOU can't flip a $5K sealed Bonk 3 CD for profit.  Until you factor in your shipping charge.
 :P
You know it's all about that shipping.  Make that money.  $199 for door to door service.  Fully insured.

http://www.shipgreyhound.com/e/Pages/DoorToDoorService.aspx
"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

NoSexGex

#32
07/25/2017, 05:45 PM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 07/25/2017, 05:32 PM
Quote from: NoSexGex on 07/25/2017, 05:12 PMAhhhh so that's who won this.. And here I thought the top bids were just troll bids lol

Quote from: bob on 07/25/2017, 12:08 PMDidn't a Bonk 3 CD just sell for like $5k sealed?
wtff who does this
Worth every penny.
Who doesn't do this** 8)

ClodBusted

#33
07/26/2017, 01:48 AM
tbone3969 & karlmarx = same person. Confirmed, lol.

Psycho Punch

#34
07/26/2017, 02:10 AM
This Toxic Turbo Turd/Troll & Clone Warrior calls himself "Burning Fight!!" at Neo-Geo.com
For a good time reach out to: aleffrenan94@gmail.com or punchballmariobros@gmail.com
Like DildoKobold, dildos are provided free of charge, no need to bring your own! :lol:
He too ran scripts to steal/clone this forum which blew up the error logs! I deleted THOUSANDS of errors cause of this nutcase!
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Gypsy

#35
07/26/2017, 07:54 AM
Quote from: guest on 07/26/2017, 01:48 AMtbone3969 & karlmarx = same person. Confirmed, lol.
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Beeeelive it.

glazball

#36
07/26/2017, 01:13 PM Last Edit: 07/26/2017, 02:33 PM by glazball
This is pretty concerning, as it does look pretty authentic, but still seems fake.  It's obviously resealed, but you don't usually see the hangtab and tearaway strip with reseals.

Please post more photos if you do open it up as well as let us know what happens with your shady seller.  I'd love to see what the disc looks like.
glazball's game collection and wantlist

tbone3969

#37
07/26/2017, 01:45 PM
I'd like to meet this karlmarx, especially if he is anything like me.
"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

LostFlunky

#38
07/26/2017, 04:03 PM
Quote from: guest on 07/26/2017, 02:08 PMI'm going with real.  The photos aren't high enough resolution to call out as fake, imo.  I've never seen a sealed tzd release so I can't comment on the authenticity of the shrink-wrap.

I would personally send it off to be graded.  The experts at VGA would notify you if this is indeed fake.
Wasn't Riot Zone a TZD release?  I had it sealed and it was in a stretch/ heat seal with a hang-tab, not a fold with a tear strip.

Also - if they are still available, take a look at the eBay listing photos - there is one of the back taken at an angle where you can see that the fold in the insert at the spine does not look perforated, and the paper surface is cracking like cheap photo paper.

CrackTiger

#39
07/26/2017, 04:14 PM
I know that Buster Bros and Splash Lake came in that thick shrinkwrap. I'm now trying to remember clearly how Super CDs came packaged. All the "sealed" copies on eBay have thin shrinkwrap. I also now think that the sealed copy of Cotton that I sold on here for $70 had that kind of wrap.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

tbone3969

#40
07/26/2017, 04:28 PM
Wait.....

I think you guys might be on to something.  Since this was a special order item only it could be legit.  I agree that sending it to VGA to be graded is the way to go at this point.  You could have a 5k plus item on your hands.
"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

Nazi NecroPhile

#41
07/26/2017, 04:37 PM
Quote from: Lost Monkey on 07/26/2017, 04:03 PMWasn't Riot Zone a TZD release?
Nope.  It's one of the few Super CDs I managed to pick up locally as a young robot.
Ultimate Forum Bully/Thief/Saboteur/Clone Warrior! BURN IN HELL NECROPHUCK!!!

seieienbu

#42
07/26/2017, 04:40 PM
Is it weird that I find Nulltard's trolling humorous while I find Tbone's trolling obnoxious?
Current want list:  Bomberman 93

tbone3969

#43
07/26/2017, 04:44 PM
Quote from: seieienbu on 07/26/2017, 04:40 PMIs it weird that I find Nulltard's trolling humorous while I find Tbone's trolling obnoxious?
Thanks for blowing up our spot. 

I know I am no where near the level of Nulltard but you have to start somewhere, no?
"There's something out there in those trees and it ain't no man. We're all gonna die."

esteban

#44
07/26/2017, 06:29 PM
Quote from: seieienbu on 07/26/2017, 04:40 PMIs it weird that I find Nulltard's trolling humorous while I find Tbone's trolling obnoxious?
No. I feel the same way.

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CrackTiger

#45
07/26/2017, 06:45 PM
I think that TZD exclusives are an urban legend.

TTi was doing mail-order exclusives since day one.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

MotherGunner

#46
07/26/2017, 07:22 PM
-MG

SI VIS PACEM, PARA BELLUM (If you want peace, Prepare for war)
SI VIS BELLUM, PARA MATRIMONIUM (If you want war, Prepare for marriage)

turboswimbz

#47
07/26/2017, 07:39 PM
NW: Hey, I made it on this psycho's Enemies' List, how about that ?? ;)
BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

ClodBusted

#48
07/27/2017, 03:24 AM
Schrödinger's sealed jewel case is full of genuine Turbo goodness and isn't.

That Pokemon listing looks like it came straight from the Youtuber's school of how to successfully advertise videos using boobies in preview pics. Not sure if it helps ebay sales, though. Especially since a good deal of Pokemon players are female, anyway.

Quote from: tbone3969 on 07/26/2017, 04:44 PMI know I am no where near the level of Nulltard but you have to start somewhere, no?
I'd say it like this: Better stop before it's too late.

xcrement5x

#49
07/27/2017, 12:10 PM Last Edit: 07/27/2017, 12:18 PM by xelement5x
Demented Clone Warrior Consensus: "My pirated forum clone is superior/more "moral" than yours, neener neener neener..."  ](*,)
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