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Going rate for PC-FX?

Started by o.pwuaioc, 06/27/2015, 08:35 PM

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o.pwuaioc

I was wondering what the going rate for PC-FX and games are these days? What's expensive, what's cheap? What would be a good price for the machine? Also, if a guy can hook me up with a bunch of games at ebay prices, would it be worth it to bring them here just to distribute them? I'm not really familiar with this system, and I couldn't find any threads going back to 2012 in this subforum or the other.

turboswimbz

Hmmm, not sure I can say too much on current prices, but about 1.5 years ago I was able to nab a PCFX for 130ish.     

Games vary quite a bit but most seem to now fall into the 20-30 range.  With the exception of a few rare more playable titles which fetch quite a bit more.  although I was able to grab a few for someone last December for 10-15 + shipping. (damned if i could remember which ones)

Keep in mind as far as distributing them, the FX has little appeal as the library is small, and is difficult to master without knowledge of the Japanese language.  So you might not have a ton of takers.  (not to say even without the ability to understand it can't be a cool and fun system, I've enjoyed the few games I've played) 

 
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NecroPhile

After buying a lot on ebay, I sold the dupes (boxed system and seven common games) for $200 shipped to another PCEFXer.  Buying in lots usually yields the best prices.

As for buying a bunch of games to resell here, I guess it depends on what you mean by "ebay pricing".  If it's standard BIN pricing, what's the point?
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o.pwuaioc

I always mean average final auction prices. I never mean BIN, because that's just for idiots.

turboswimbz

Quote from: guest on 06/29/2015, 01:43 PMI always mean average final auction prices. I never mean BIN, because that's just for idiots.
For what it's worth I would be up for buying some games.
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o.pwuaioc

Any in particular? Is there a good price guide aside from ebay completed auctions? Some may be pricier than what people want, and I don't want to grab the ones that might be too high for online sales.

elmer

Quote from: guest on 06/29/2015, 11:11 PMSome may be pricier than what people want, and I don't want to grab the ones that might be too high for online sales.
I wish you good luck ... but I suspect that you might find that to be a bit of a problem.

From what I've seen ... not that many people are really interested in the PC-FX, and those that really have the "collecting" bug are going to need to buy from Japan anyway in order to get a lot of the games.

The systems themselves can be crazy-cheap in Japan if you're willing to replace a bad laser!  :wink:

But the few "playable-by-a-westerner" games already seem to command a pretty high price ... especially when the system has no copy-protection and you can just burn an image for free.

I'd like a real copy of Zeroigar ... but I'm not willing to pay anything even remotely near what people are asking for it.

Same with Zenki.

Miraculum is on my list, and is almost reasonably priced ... but it is still mostly useless until someone does a translation of it.

Team Innocent is definitely affordable ... and there is a work-in-progress translation so it's actually playable ... but it just doesn't look like it's much fun.

Someone would probably buy Pia Carrot from you ... but it wouldn't be me.

BlueBMW

Wait a week and I'll tell you what the going rate is for one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351440118017

If one of you goons wants it, maybe we can make a deal ahead of time.  Though I'm always curious to see what $0.99 auctions end up at...
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SamIAm

QuoteThe systems themselves can be crazy-cheap in Japan if you're willing to replace a bad laser!  :wink:
Let's hope so.

Yeah, o.pwuaioc, you can get one for about 1000 yen on yahoo auctions if you don't mind getting a "junk" system that almost certainly has problems reading games.

With a controller, it's probably 1500 or so.

Working systems seem to go for 5000-8000 depending on condition.

QuoteI'd like a real copy of Zeroigar ... but I'm not willing to pay anything even remotely near what people are asking for it.
There's a sealed copy sitting in my local shop for 38,000 yen. I'll never buy it. But someday, someone will, and I will be just a little sad.


elmer

Quote from: BlueBMW on 06/30/2015, 02:21 AMWait a week and I'll tell you what the going rate is for one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351440118017

If one of you goons wants it, maybe we can make a deal ahead of time.  Though I'm always curious to see what $0.99 auctions end up at...
Looks like you got $112 for it, which I'm thinking is a pretty good deal for the buyer!

turboswimbz

Quote from: elmer on 07/06/2015, 06:12 PM
Quote from: BlueBMW on 06/30/2015, 02:21 AMWait a week and I'll tell you what the going rate is for one:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/351440118017

If one of you goons wants it, maybe we can make a deal ahead of time.  Though I'm always curious to see what $0.99 auctions end up at...
Looks like you got $112 for it, which I'm thinking is a pretty good deal for the buyer!
Yeah it was. Plus it's beemer, so you know the items are in spectacular shape.
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BlueBMW

About what I expected :)

Was it one of you that got it?
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NecroPhile

Quote from: BlueBMW on 07/07/2015, 01:09 PMWas it one of you that got it?
I hope so.  Better a good PCEFXer than some flipper or a collectard that'll never even try to play it.
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elmer

Quote from: BlueBMW on 07/07/2015, 01:09 PMAbout what I expected :)

Was it one of you that got it?
I placed a bid to stop it from going for a stupidly-silly price, but was outbid by the snipers at the end.

I like the way that Yahoo Japan has the extension feature, just like real auctions, so that everyone gets a chance to respond to the last bid. I'm sure that that helps boost the final price to the seller.

BlueBMW

Yeah the extension at the end of auctions is nice when you're a seller.  Can be frustrating as a buyer at times though hehe
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SkyeWelse

For personal reasons, I'm more interested in getting a PC-FX GA card for my NEC PC-9821 Ce2. I'm not really sure what the actual going rate is for one of these though as both eBay and Yahoo Actions Japan seem marked up very high. Surely these can be cheaper? I don't even need the full complete box, disk or demos even.

-Thomas

elmer

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Quote from: SkyeWelse on 08/17/2015, 02:15 PMFor personal reasons, I'm more interested in getting a PC-FX GA card for my NEC PC-9821 Ce2. I'm not really sure what the actual going rate is for one of these though as both eBay and Yahoo Actions Japan seem marked up very high. Surely these can be cheaper? I don't even need the full complete box, disk or demos even.
The one that's on Yahoo Japan for 15,000Y has been sitting there for ages.

There were a couple on there a few months ago that had to cycle around  a couple of times before they sold in the 3,000Y ballpark. If you wait long enough, you'll find one at a good price.

Maybe Arkhan will sell you his old PC98 one now that he's recently bought a PC-FXGA DOS/V ISA card.

SkyeWelse

Thanks Elmer,

In checking eBay it looks like the auctions that previously sold were for complete sets anywhere from $60 to $90 not including shipping. So that'll be my target range to aim for I think. It's not that I absolutely gotta have one of these babies, but I really would like to see how it performs on my PC-98 as a hobbyist type of project. Normally my PC-98 wouldn't have a processor powerful enough to support it, but I upgraded it to 83 mHz using an overdrive chip. I believe the specs on a PC-FX GA call for a 100 mHz, so I'm hoping to scrape by and still be able to use this thing. However, in the event that it doesn't work out, I don't want to be above the $100 range for a loss.

-Thomas

elmer

Quote from: SkyeWelse on 08/17/2015, 03:56 PMNormally my PC-98 wouldn't have a processor powerful enough to support it, but I upgraded it to 83 mHz using an overdrive chip. I believe the specs on a PC-FX GA call for a 100 mHz, so I'm hoping to scrape by and still be able to use this thing. However, in the event that it doesn't work out, I don't want to be above the $100 range for a loss.
The specs on the ISA card require a 486SX33, but recommend a 486DX100.

If you've got enough RAM in the system to use Fez's PC-FXGA CD cache program, then I suspect that you'll be fine.

CrackTiger

To put it into perspective, I just bought a nice white complete in box with docs PC-FX off of eBay for $180 shipped.
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BlueBMW

My cib nice white unit sold for about $140 shipped on ebay recently.  That included two cheapie games.
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SkyeWelse

Quote from: elmer on 08/17/2015, 04:14 PM
Quote from: SkyeWelse on 08/17/2015, 03:56 PMNormally my PC-98 wouldn't have a processor powerful enough to support it, but I upgraded it to 83 mHz using an overdrive chip. I believe the specs on a PC-FX GA call for a 100 mHz, so I'm hoping to scrape by and still be able to use this thing. However, in the event that it doesn't work out, I don't want to be above the $100 range for a loss.
The specs on the ISA card require a 486SX33, but recommend a 486DX100.

If you've got enough RAM in the system to use Fez's PC-FXGA CD cache program, then I suspect that you'll be fine.
Thanks for explaining the recommended specs. Well, natively the Ce2 has a 486SX chip running 25 mHz. But with this adapter/overdrive CPU I'm able to overclock it to 83mHz, so hopefully that should be enough. :)

-Thomas

tbone3969

PC-FX....

Some day I will own you.

Need to get a house first.  Living in a small apartment doesn't help.  What's the dimensions on the PC-FX?
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NecroPhile

Quote from: tbone3969 on 10/14/2015, 10:09 PMWhat's the dimensions on the PC-FX?
Maybe 5" x 10" x 10" x whogivesafuck.

If the size of the console is the determining factor in whether or not you get one, just don't get one.  You can't seriously want one.
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Quote from: tbone3969 on 10/14/2015, 10:09 PMPC-FX....

Some day I will own you.

Need to get a house first.  Living in a small apartment doesn't help.  What's the dimensions on the PC-FX?
0.4 Xboxes

1 PC-FX playing a game = 1.3 SNES playing a game


If space is an issue, maybe stop sitting on sealed games just to keep anyone from playing them.
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galvatronlives

Quote from: turboswimbz on 06/28/2015, 07:41 AMHmmm, not sure I can say too much on current prices, but about 1.5 years ago I was able to nab a PCFX for 130ish.     

Games vary quite a bit but most seem to now fall into the 20-30 range.  With the exception of a few rare more playable titles which fetch quite a bit more.  although I was able to grab a few for someone last December for 10-15 + shipping. (damned if i could remember which ones)

Keep in mind as far as distributing them, the FX has little appeal as the library is small, and is difficult to master without knowledge of the Japanese language.  So you might not have a ton of takers.  (not to say even without the ability to understand it can't be a cool and fun system, I've enjoyed the few games I've played) 

 
I picked up a boxed system on Amazon about a 1.5 years ago for $75. It shipped from Japan. I only ended up paying $4 for shipping and the shipper paid $90 to ship it. I bet whoever did this lost their job.

tbone3969

Quote from: NecroPhile on 10/15/2015, 09:20 AM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 10/14/2015, 10:09 PMWhat's the dimensions on the PC-FX?
Maybe 5" x 10" x 10" x whogivesafuck.

If the size of the console is the determining factor in whether or not you get one, just don't get one.  You can't seriously want one.
I live in a small NYC 2 bedroom apartment with a wife and child.  My wife already gives me crap about my custom PC I built in a substantial tower.
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tbone3969

Quote from: CrackTiger on 10/15/2015, 11:46 AM
Quote from: tbone3969 on 10/14/2015, 10:09 PMPC-FX....

Some day I will own you.

Need to get a house first.  Living in a small apartment doesn't help.  What's the dimensions on the PC-FX?
0.4 Xboxes

1 PC-FX playing a game = 1.3 SNES playing a game


If space is an issue, maybe stop sitting on sealed games just to keep anyone from playing them.
I have very few sealed games.  I'd say less than 5% of my collection is sealed.  And if you are still refering to that sealed Dragon Slayer, I sold that years ago.  Geez, you guys never let shit go.
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I don't know... we let this shit go more than two years ago.  :lol:
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Quote from: NecroPhile on 11/17/2017, 06:25 PMI don't know... we let this shit go more than two years ago.  :lol:
I see.  I need to look at the dates on the posts more often.  It seems like yesterday you guys were ragging on me.  Oh the good ole days.
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I will give you a gold star for the necrobump though.  The months are close enough that if you're not paying attention to the years it flows well.
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Quote from: guest on 11/20/2017, 01:17 PMI will give you a gold star for the necrobump though.  The months are close enough that if you're not paying attention to the years it flows well.
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BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!