WTB: PC Engine/Core Grafx with PAL RF mod.

[Ergot_Cholera]

Does anyone have one of these or know where I can get one? I believe they were converted for sale in Europe (except France) in the early 90s. I would prefer an original PC Engine but I would gladly accept a Core Grafx (or even a Supergrafx, yes I have read about a SuperGrafx converted for PAL RF).
I am in the UK, but would be willing to buy from Europe (or from anyone who has one worldwide).

[CrackTiger]

No software was ever made for PAL hardware, so using a PAL system will make every game run incorrectly.

From what I've heard about importers bitd, the opposite is true. France had such a huge PCE scene that translated manuals were published and hardware was modified to run on PAL TVs.

[ClodBusted]

You don't need PAL R/F signals.
Modify a NTSC PCE or Turbo for RGB, and it will play fine in color  on any PAL TV with Scart sockets.

It will also look way better that way than shitty R/F.

[Digi.k]

Does anyone have one of these or know where I can get one? I believe they were converted for sale in Europe (except France) in the early 90s. I would prefer an original PC Engine but I would gladly accept a Core Grafx (or even a Supergrafx, yes I have read about a SuperGrafx converted for PAL RF).
I am in the UK, but would be willing to buy from Europe (or from anyone who has one worldwide).

the games also run about 17.5% slower on UK PAL.  I used to have them.  The very early ones seemed to display in just pinks but later on they fixed it.  it still ran slow when compared to the NTSC speed. Also when running CD rom games the cut scenes were out of sync with the audio and you find that a lot of the audio tracks finished far quicker than the cut scene could finish.  The screen also appeared squashed with top and bottom black borders ala letterbox screen shape.

[Ergot_Cholera]

I already know all this. I didn't ask for all this information.

[gojira1954]

I've only seen one of these once, my mate got a core grafx at a car boot which was PAL RF modded. I converted it to RGB for him, the work already done looked professional - I might have some pics of the board before modification if you are interested?
Though to be honest I'm baffled why you are even interested in PAL RF mods?
EDIT can't find the pics right now but was same as this;
http://assemblergames.com/l/threads/pc-engine-core-grafx-ii-rf-converted-problem.26502/

[Ergot_Cholera]

The first ever PC Engine console I owned was a PAL modded Core Grafx that I bought on ebay about 7 years ago, I only found out that it was modded when I received it.
I removed the mod and restored it to NTSC and comp video output and then sold it sometime later. I still have the removed parts (minus wires) but I don't really want to put them back in a perfectly good Core Grafx.
I have already seen the pictures you have linked.
I want one just for curiosity really. It is obviously easier to tell that a Core Grafx has been PAL RF modded than an original PC Engine.

[ClodBusted]

I don't get the point.

[wildfruit]

I don't get the point.

Me also. Is there a reason this must be RF?

[Otaking]

I believe they were converted for sale in Europe (except France) in the early 90s.

I always thought the PAL Core Grafx's originated from Hong Kong.

[ClodBusted]

From the little I heard of, there was a French company called Sodipeng importing and modifying PCE consoles for a small European market. I'm not sure if they also modified CoreGrafx consoles, and even if they did the mods by themselves or let others do it for them.

[Ergot_Cholera]

Sodipeng converted them for RGB via SCART (peritel) in France, unfortunately we in the UK (and the rest of Europe) had to make do with PAL 50 via RF.

[SignOfZeta]

If I'm not mistaken, that company later became Infogrames, or is somehow related.

[CrackTiger]

It was supposed to just have been a hack which barely worked through scart and wasn't really RGB. More like rf or composite.

[HuMan]

Did you see this CIB CoreGrafx on NintendoAge? The seller says it's got PAL RF (and apparently doesn't work very well on his TV).

http://vintage.nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=6&threadid=113860

[Ergot_Cholera]

I'm not a member on Nintendoage. I would be interested but the shipping cost from Canada to the UK would be enormous. maybe if he was willing to sell just the console.

[Ergot_Cholera]

This is what I am looking for.
http://8-bit-dreams.blogspot.co.uk/2012/03/modded-pc-engine-2-pc-engine-score.html

[Vimtoman]

Is this a collector fetish?

[Ergot_Cholera]

Is this a collector fetish?

I find the PC Engine consoles to be aesthetically pleasing, but I do not find them erotically stimulating.

[HuMan]

Yeah but to the rest of us, owning a purposely crippled PC Engine is odd.

Unless it's for historical preservation and stuff, publishing info and properties on the variant on some site, like that.

[Vimtoman]

Is this a collector fetish?

I find the PC Engine consoles to be aesthetically pleasing, but I do not find them erotically stimulating.

It was regarding the RF PAL preference.

Everybody here has a PC Engine fetish.

[Ergot_Cholera]

I'm not sure, maybe it is for preservation reasons. There probably won't be many of these left soon as most people will revert them to NTSC or RGB mod them now if they were to receive one.

[Vimtoman]

I've seen PAL Turbografx units for sale but not the PC Engine.

[Ergot_Cholera]

Bump

[Vimtoman]

Clonk

[Ergot_Cholera]

Bum

[Vimtoman]

Plop