Best baseball game

VestCunt · 08/24/2006, 12:03 AM

With the exception of Blades of Steel, i'm not much into sports games. But i do enjoy some baseball once in a blue moon and Reggie Jackson Baseball on my SMS is starting to wear a little thin after these last 17 years.

What is the best baseball game on the pce/tg16? Other than a little World Class Baseball i haven't played any of them.

Keranu · 08/24/2006, 12:13 AM

The other Power League games (Japanese version of World Class Baseball) are pretty much the same, so they are all good. There are a few for CD that I have never played but look like a lotta fun too. Also the two Namco ones for PCE huCard are pretty basic, I think they are called World Class Stadium and World Class Stadium '91 (jeez I own it, I should know).

shubibiman · 08/24/2006, 10:55 AM

Power League 93, definitely the best baseball game on the pc engine.

torgo · 08/24/2006, 03:33 PM

This is Pro Baseball 89 was an awesome CD Baseball game that I imported. We figured out all of the menus and wrote everthing out.

It had all of the real teams, players and stadiums for that year. It plays very well too.

CrackTiger · 08/24/2006, 03:59 PM

The best baseball game ever made, which probably will never be bettered, is Major League Baseball for Intellivision.

Aside from other greatness, the one feature that keeps it on top is the fact that each fielder has it's own button.

The worst thing to ever happen to sports games is licensing. Ever since sports games started using real teams and even worse, real players, gameplay has no longer been the highest priority.

And ever since they began licensing teams & players, publishers have somehow managed to con people into buying the exact same game again and again every single year, with only stats and other minor changes.

Meanwhile, game mags and even thousands+ of self-proclamed "gamerz" have been trashing games like Bonk 2 & 3 as rehashes and everyone dumped on Super Street Fighter II SNES as a Capcom rip-off(somehow, they all loved SFII Turbo though...) ever since.

In this emerging age of "micro transactions", how can any publisher justify making gamerz pay full price for next years revision instead of downloading a patch for free or like $5?

guyjin · 08/24/2006, 06:08 PM

a sucker is born every minute... hell, it may be down to every 30 seconds nowadays.

Keranu · 08/25/2006, 12:59 AM

Quote from: CrackTigerThe best baseball game ever made, which probably will never be bettered, is Major League Baseball for Intellivision.

Right on, man; right on! Fantastic baseball game right there. It's amazing, I find the Atari 2600 to have the best tennis, football, and soccer games out of any systems. Tennis for 2600 is probably my favorite sports game of all time, fanastic game (especially with paddles).

SignOfZeta · 08/25/2006, 02:12 AM

I think the only baseball game I've played for PCE is ROM ROM Stadium. It remember it being OK, but I don't own it anymore so I must not have been too crazy about it.

I totally agree about licensing ruining sports games. Well, obviously it really makes the game for the millions of tools that buy the same damn game every single year, but licensing ruins it for me. My favorite baseball games are Super Baseball 2020, and Dynamite Sluggaer.

Chad

esteban · 08/29/2006, 01:46 AM

The PCE baseball titles can't compare with those for the NES:

Baseball Stars for the NES will always be my favorite baseball game of all-time. I just love the control -- it's spot-on, as far as I am concerned. Plus, it looks fantastic, has tons of customization, plays quickly and is so much damn fun to play. It rules.

Baseball Simulator 1.000 (decent runner-up) is another NES game that rocks the pants off of countless 16-bit (+) baseball titles, though I never thought it was nearly as fun as Baseball Stars.

Keranu · 08/29/2006, 04:04 AM

There are quite a few baseball games for NES I loved besides Baseball Stars, though I have no idea what the names are (I would have to look through a list to find them). I remember this one neat game where you chose teams with all these crazy, creative kid designs and would play in some funny parks.

VestCunt · 08/29/2006, 05:06 AM

Well heck, I guess that says something about the quality of the PCE's baseball games when, after a handful of posts, the thread degrades into discussion about ancient NES carts and the highlights of Tennis on the Atari 2600.
geezzz.....

Keranu · 08/29/2006, 03:52 PM

I personally don't think so, I think the PCE is one of the better systems for baseball games since there are a little more than a handful worth and they are all pretty decent games. I recently got World Class Baseball and have been playing it with my bros and loving it to death, such a great game. I might even go as far as saying that World Class Baseball is my new favorite baseball game

. So if you were to ask me, I'd say the NES and PCE are the top consoles for baseball games (and I still haven't played any of the PCE CD baseball games).

PC Gaijin · 08/29/2006, 04:43 PM

Yes, licensing along with a heavy emphasis on "realism" and TV-style presentation have ruined baseball video games. Baseball is one of my favorite sports, but I don't give a shit about having real ML players, teams, stadiums, and such. I just want to play a good game of baseball. Fantasy style baseball, either with over-the-top arcade action, or elements like robot players are cool too.

The only baseball games I've played on the Turbo have been the Power League series. World Class Baseball remains one of my favorite games, even though the later Power League updates are better. I put so much time into World Class back in the day, it's ridiculous. BTW, I wonder whatever happened to TV Sports Baseball? I probably wouldn't have liked it much (the TV style again), and I wasn't too impressed with how TV Sports Football played, but we really didn't get enough localized baseball games. I think Tengen was rumored to be developing RBI Baseball for the Turbo too at one point (or rather translating and publishing Pro Yakyu World Stadium).

guyjin · 08/29/2006, 08:16 PM

I was never big on the 'realistic' sports games for any system, but one game I did enjoy was Base Wars for the NES. In certain situations, your robots would fight each other to determine the outcomes of certain things (like wether you got to base)

Not on youtube, sadly. :/

Keranu · 08/30/2006, 01:07 AM

TV Sports Baseball got cancelled, I don't know if there is an answer for that out there, but we have discussed this multiple times before. There were some screenshots for it and even a video of it if you check out the promo video that Joe posted here . Paranoia Dragon knows a lot more about this than I do, but I think I recall him or someone else saying that some store was going to have it in stock, but they never received any copies. There might be a proto copy out there somewhere, but we don't know of any. From the looks of the video, it looked a lot better than the other TV Sports games and was more like a classic style baseball game like Power League.

GUTS · 08/30/2006, 01:35 AM

Best baseball games I've ever played are Baseball Stars like Steve mentioned and World Series Baseball '98 on Sega Saturn (I think it was 98, it was the one right before they wen't to polygon players, they still used sprites). Man I used to have a blast playing home run derby over and over on that one. The PCE baseball games all looked like crap so I never bothered with any of them.

esteban · 08/30/2006, 02:12 AM

Quote from: KeranuTV Sports Baseball got cancelled, I don't know if there is an answer for that out there, but we have discussed this multiple times before. There were some screenshots for it and even a video of it if you check out the promo video that Joe posted here . Paranoia Dragon knows a lot more about this than I do, but I think I recall him or someone else saying that some store was going to have it in stock, but they never received any copies. There might be a proto copy out there somewhere, but we don't know of any. From the looks of the video, it looked a lot better than the other TV Sports games and was more like a classic style baseball game like Power League.

torgo (or maybe it was someone else) told us that the prototype for TV Sports Baseball had some rawness and needed to be finessed. If you read the reviews at the time, they mentioned some other quirks (like the batters coming from the dugout instead of the "on deck" circle, or something like that). Presumably, some of these things might have been corrected before the final release.

We do know this: at least some magazine reviewers played a prototype of the game that seemed pretty close to complete.

Keranu · 08/30/2006, 04:45 AM

Quote from: GUTSThe PCE baseball games all looked like crap so I never bothered with any of them.

Such an evil view in life.

Quote from: Stevetorgo (or maybe it was someone else) told us that the prototype for TV Sports Baseball had some rawness and needed to be finessed. If you read the reviews at the time, they mentioned some other quirks (like the batters coming from the dugout instead of the "on deck" circle, or something like that). Presumably, some of these things might have been corrected before the final release.

Ahh, thanks for telling me this. I probably read this before but forgot, so thinks for reminding me if that's the case.

Quote from: Steve againWe do know this: at least some magazine reviewers played a prototype of the game that seemed pretty close to complete.

Ahh, I didn't even think about the magazine reviews, like Turbo Play, which reviewed the game. That means there has to be a playable proto somewhere.

VestCunt · 08/30/2006, 05:23 AM

Quote from: Keranu
Quote from: Steve againWe do know this: at least some magazine reviewers played a prototype of the game that seemed pretty close to complete.
Ahh, I didn't even think about the magazine reviews, like Turbo Play, which reviewed the game. That means there has to be a playable proto somewhere.

Yeah, some guy posted on here a few months ago offering like $2,000 for it and other proto-type games if anyone had them.

To summarize, the pce has:
Power League 1-5
Power League 93
World Class Stadium
World Class Stadium 91
Naxat Stadium

Pro Baseball 89 (Kore Ga Pro Yakyuu 89) CD
Rom Rom Stadium CD

Nekketsu Legend Baseball (a SCD RPG, anyone know anything about this?)

Are there any others?
Which Power League game became World Class Baseball?

PC Gaijin · 08/30/2006, 07:43 AM

World Class Baseball is the first Power League game.

Keranu · 08/30/2006, 04:06 PM

Quote from: VestCuntYeah, some guy posted on here a few months ago offering like $2,000 for it and other proto-type games if anyone had them.

Oh yeah, wasn't that the French guy? I remember that, I salute him.

Quote from: VestCuntTo summarize, the pce has:
Power League 1-5
Power League 93
World Class Stadium
World Class Stadium 91
Naxat Stadium

Pro Baseball 89 (Kore Ga Pro Yakyuu 89) CD
Rom Rom Stadium CD

Nekketsu Legend Baseball (a SCD RPG, anyone know anything about this?)[

Are there any others?
Which Power League game became World Class Baseball?

I think you got them all, except there might be one more for CD but I would have to research that more to confirm. That's probably all of them though.

By the way, I wasn't aware of this Nekketsu Legend Baseball game today since it's listed in this program I use but has no screenshots. I'm really interested by it now since you said SCD RPG and the cover looked a little neat. The only information I have on the game is that it was released on June 6th, 1995 on Super CD format, created by Pack-In-Video (oh no!), and it's serial number is PVCD5013

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PC Gaijin · 08/30/2006, 07:00 PM

Dude...Pack-In-Video. That should be enough warning for you to run far, far away.

Keranu · 08/30/2006, 07:33 PM

Hehe

, oh c'mon now, lets give the game a chance!

torgo · 08/31/2006, 12:04 PM

eeeek

Keranu · 09/01/2006, 01:28 AM

the Cat.

djolof · 07/15/2012, 04:08 PM

I'd like to re-open discussion on this thread. I am looking to find another baseball game on the PCE (I already own WCB for the TG16)... which is the best bet/ best bang for the buck?

Otaking · 07/15/2012, 04:12 PM

@ djolof your avatar made me do a lol

Mishran · 07/15/2012, 04:30 PM

Quote from: djolof on 07/15/2012, 04:08 PMI'd like to re-open discussion on this thread. I am looking to find another baseball game on the PCE (I already own WCB for the TG16)... which is the best bet/ best bang for the buck?

As mentioned in a earlier '06 post, Power League '93 is a really good ball game. Power League 5 isn't bad either. Haven't played anything other than the Power Leagues' though, so I feel my opinion is a bit one sided.

djolof · 07/15/2012, 07:18 PM

Good Stuff, I'll have to pick both of those up.

Cheers!

Nando · 07/15/2012, 08:39 PM

You may have the three that you see there, except for Power League, for like 5bucks or something? PM if you are interested.

soop · 07/16/2012, 05:07 AM

That's a good deal! Dibs if he soesn't want them (though he'd be mad not to!)

I only have Power League 3, and it's... ok.

Nando · 07/16/2012, 11:30 AM

Quote from: soop on 07/16/2012, 05:07 AMThat's a good deal! Dibs if he soesn't want them (though he'd be mad not to!)

They are yours, If I haven't heard from him by tonight. I'm down to trade too if you want.

VestCunt · 07/16/2012, 11:14 PM

Funny this thread came up again. I was blazing through menus in Power League IV yesterday and almost threw out my Neutopia II files - there's a memory editor in there!

I also got Pro Yakyuu World Stadium AKA RBI Baseball a few years ago - always fun to play a NES game on PCE.

Anyone know how the hell to play Kore Ga Pro Yakyuu '90? I seem to only be able to control one batter in the whole lineup.

esadajr · 07/17/2012, 10:11 AM

Bases Loaded 2 for the NES is the best in my opinion, followed by Bad News Baseball.

esteban · 07/19/2012, 12:26 PM

Quote from: VestCunt on 07/16/2012, 11:14 PMFunny this thread came up again. I was blazing through menus in Power League IV yesterday and almost threw out my Neutopia II files - there's a memory editor in there!

I also got Pro Yakyuu World Stadium AKA RBI Baseball a few years ago - always fun to play a NES game on PCE.

Anyone know how the hell to play Kore Ga Pro Yakyuu '90? I seem to only be able to control one batter in the whole lineup.

I love how folks have been digging up old threads

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Anyway, Kore Ga Pro Yakyuu '90 requires the Tap and 5 controllers. You use a different, dedicated controller for batting/fielding. It's cumbersome at first, but once you get the hang of it, you'll appreciate how immersive this control scheme actually is.

Personally, I chew tobacco and drink Tabasco and listen to Tedesco when I play Kore Ga Pro Yakyuu '90.

Otaking · 07/19/2012, 01:21 PM

Quote from: esteban on 07/19/2012, 12:26 PMAnyway, Kore Ga Pro Yakyuu '90 requires the Tap and 5 controllers. You use a different, dedicated controller for batting/fielding. It's cumbersome at first, but once you get the hang of it, you'll appreciate how immersive this control scheme actually is.

That sounds awesome as my only problem with all the PC Engine baseball games I've played is they seem a bit too simple.

termis · 07/20/2012, 07:06 AM

Best baseball game(s) unfortunately are unknown to the west. Stadium Hero and Champion Baseball -- Okay, Champion baseball seeme like there's a US ROM, but I've never seen it in western arcades. And CB hasn't aged well, so it's pure nostalgia for me. But Stadium Hero is a truly awesome, awesome baseball game.

Man, I love Japanese Baseball - Go Hanshin Tigers! And Koshien's one of the most awesome events around!

termis · 07/20/2012, 07:07 AM

oops double post.

termis · 07/20/2012, 07:07 AM

oops triple post!

soop · 07/20/2012, 07:11 AM

Quote from: HardcoreOtaku on 07/19/2012, 01:21 PM
Quote from: esteban on 07/19/2012, 12:26 PMAnyway, Kore Ga Pro Yakyuu '90 requires the Tap and 5 controllers. You use a different, dedicated controller for batting/fielding. It's cumbersome at first, but once you get the hang of it, you'll appreciate how immersive this control scheme actually is.
That sounds awesome as my only problem with all the PC Engine baseball games I've played is they seem a bit too simple.

Seconded. How difficult is it to play with no Japanese?

Also, speaking of baseball: http://what-if.xkcd.com/1/

esteban · 07/20/2012, 12:39 PM

Quote from: HardcoreOtaku on 07/19/2012, 01:21 PM
Quote from: esteban on 07/19/2012, 12:26 PMAnyway, Kore Ga Pro Yakyuu '90 requires the Tap and 5 controllers. You use a different, dedicated controller for batting/fielding. It's cumbersome at first, but once you get the hang of it, you'll appreciate how immersive this control scheme actually is.
That sounds awesome as my only problem with all the PC Engine baseball games I've played is they seem a bit too simple.

Precisely

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