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Some Game Fucked Me Over Review: Final Fantasy 2 (IV) SNES

Started by VestCunt, 11/26/2012, 04:57 PM

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VestCunt

I've done a lot of bitching about ChronoTrigger and FFVI and FFVII around here, so why did I sit down to play FFIV this week?

Because I'd never played it before. And I found it for a good deal. And I was feeling nostalgic about FFI and hoped to relive some of the first game's awesomeness.

How bad could it be? The graphics looked clean and simple, much closer to FFI than VI. Surely the series hadn't yet devolved into the linear, plot-heavy mindlessness of the later episodes. So I went through the ebay used-game ritual of q-tip cleaning and sticker removal and pressed "start".
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Where the first game began with character customization and decision making, FFIV starts with a munchkin sprite soap opera. Some "dark knight" named Cecil is having an unlikely struggle with his conscience as late in his career as tenth level. As I sit through the halting dialog and watch the stereotypical characters argue and push each other around the screen, I wonder whether the translators were bad or if they were confined by the size of the text boxes. There are two automated battles aboard an airship as Cecil deals massive amounts of damage to some thoroughly non-threatening, puny monsters... that really advanced the plot. Finally, the king sends me on a fetch quest and the game begins by insulting my intelligence with the dumbest in-game tutorial ever: "Use the control pad to move around"!

I can't go to town yet; that would be too non-linear. Cecil must first explore the castle and unlock some more exciting plot developments before going to sleep. Lest these instructions be too confusing, I'm also told which corner of the castle my bedroom is in and that I should be sure to talk to everyone first. I jump through these hoops and another high-level, pregenerated character with a two-dimensional personality joins the party. Sweet. Then I'm treated to a platonic, midnight tryst from Cecil's childhood sweetheart (why is she emotionally invested in the morality of a thieving, murdering, 10th level anti-paladin in the service of a dictator???).

I go to town. I can't buy magic because my assigned characters aren't magic users. I can't buy weapons because the door to the weapon shop is locked. There's an adventures' guild of some sort, but it's just more in-game tutorial for Square Soft fanboys too dumb to read the manual. All I can buy are healing potions, but I've already found at least a dozen lying in the bushes, jugs, and waterfalls around town.

Off to the first dungeon! As any good RPG'er knows, this is time for some crucial grinding and leveling up. Unfortunately, the characters are already tenth level and dealing more damage then the typical party was at the end of the first game in the series. After butchering two pathetic groups of monsters, I give up and go exploring only to find that no divergent paths are available, the game's too linear.

In the dungeon: tiny, no mapping required, no remotely-challenging monsters, no useful items in treasure chests. The boss asks if I want to continue playing the game or not. I answer "yes" and go through the motions of another pointless fight as the mighty dragon inflicts negligible amounts of damage. Back to the linear over-world. Walk to another town. No exploring here - more soap opera. Another battle. This time Cecil is ruthlessly defeated as a plot device.
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That's it. I'm fucking done. Forty-five minutes in this pile of shit game and I literally haven't made a single CHOICE. No customization, no battle strategy, no mapping, no exploration, no grinding, and no problem solving. I haven't even had to use one of the goddamn healing potions that litter every bush and barrel. By this point in the first game, I had made a party of my choice and was busy saving money and customizing spell lists while running from life-threatening grey wolves and ghasts. By forty minutes into Dragon Warrior, I had made that crucial decision of whether to buy the club or the bamboo spear and I was seeing how far I could explore without getting my ass kicked. In Ultima Exodus, I was exploring a whole CONTINENT full of dungeons and towns and writing down clues. Fuck Final Fantasy, back to Eye of the Beholder.
I'm a cunt, always was. Topic Adjourned.

OldRover

Never played it... never really wanted to either.
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Joe Redifer

I can't get over how 8-bit-ish the graphics are. Phuggin' Golden Axe Warrior looks better.

cabbage

Rolflflflflfff
Drac x sucks Wong s becuz I want too play the shmup but it's not so much shooting!!!!
I wish youmom has pizza and boobies, therefore it is Terible facking gaem!!!!!1
Lulz what the pork

VestCunt

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 11/26/2012, 07:18 PMI can't get over how 8-bit-ish the graphics are. Phuggin' Golden Axe Warrior looks better.
The graphics are a plus in my book.

Quote from: cabbage on 11/26/2012, 08:15 PMRolflflflflfff
Drac x sucks Wong s becuz I want too play the shmup but it's not so much shooting!!!!
I wish youmom has pizza and boobies, therefore it is Terible facking gaem!!!!!1
Lulz what the pork
I "played" (read: watched) the game for forty-five minutes without once being challenged or allowed to make a decision of any significance. The game sucks.
I'm a cunt, always was. Topic Adjourned.

CrackTiger

The regular game begins after the story scenes after the boss in that cave. Then you'll have to grind and start looking for gear for characters and ration out MP among magic users.


Quote from: Joe Redifer on 11/26/2012, 07:18 PMI can't get over how 8-bit-ish the graphics are. Phuggin' Golden Axe Warrior looks better.
They're actually the same graphics as FFIII for Famicom, only recolored to take advantage of the SNES hardware a bit. You should see what Dragon Quest V looks like. :P
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Opethian

isnt the US version based on FF IV easytype? play the real IV the evil wall is even more relentless
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Arkhan Asylum

You played for 45 minutes and that's all you accomplished?

Shit.  You can beat the game in 12 hours or less!   You didn't even get to the best part, including the hovercraft and the midgets.

Also, FF1's first dungeon is a straight walk from the door up to Garland, lol.  After that, it's a straight wandering mess over to Provoka so you can walk straight up to a pirate and club him to death and steal his boat and B-Line over to the elves where you basically B-Line yet again.   While FF1 has choices, it sure as hell isn't very detailed, lol.  90% of the citizens are worthless.

Ultima Exodus on the other hand, yeah, totally awesome adventure right there.   Unfortunately, since you roll up your whole band of dipshits, the character development is nonexistant and you don't really get to interact much unless you want to talk to Sherry the Autistic Flower girl.


... and EotB sucks a fat cock.  Beholders aren't meant to be defeated by poking at them with a staff until they back up into spikes. The 2nd and 3rd game were way better. (But the Goldbox shit is still infintiely more gooderlike)
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

JoshTurboTrollX

Quote from: CrackTiger on 11/27/2012, 08:13 AMThe regular game begins after the story scenes after the boss in that cave. Then you'll have to grind and start looking for gear for characters and ration out MP among magic users.
^ I would plug in another 45 mins Vesty.  It is a great game, even if the intro tries to swoon RPG noobs a bit with the hand holding.  :)

Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 11/27/2012, 10:47 AMUltima Exodus on the other hand, yeah, totally awesome adventure right there.   Unfortunately, since you roll up your whole band of dipshits, the character development is nonexistant and you don't really get to interact much unless you want to talk to Sherry the Autistic Flower girl.
Character development in Exodus is however your brain imagines it.  Personally one of my favorite times playing Ultima III was when our adventure started with rolling up 20 possible characters (of course, lots of Fuzzy's) for my 4 person party.  One character in particular named KILR the Theif had a habit of going on quick quests with unsuspecting adventurers and convincing them all to allow KILR to hold on to everyone's armour, items and moneys.  Then he would take them back to the king, save the game, and find 3 more suckers and do the same all over again.  Wash, Rinse, Repeat.  By the end KILR had gained mountains of money from selling 19 other people's armors and weapons along with the money they gave him.  He then went and bought the best weapons and items available and went on his merry way.   He was kind of a dick, but it made playing through Exodus easier.  ;)
Jossshhhhh...Legendary TurboTrollX-16: He revenge-bans PCE Developers/Ys IV Localizers from PCE Facebook groups and destroyed 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Josh and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner (extortion/blackmail!), never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

Opethian

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Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 11/27/2012, 11:25 AMCharacter development in Exodus is however your brain imagines it.  Personally one of my favorite times playing Ultima III was when our adventure started with rolling up 20 possible characters (of course, lots of Fuzzy's) for my 4 person party.  One character in particular named KILR the Theif had a habit of going on quick quests with unsuspecting adventurers and convincing them all to allow KILR to hold on to everyone's armour, items and moneys.  Then he would take them back to the king, save the game, and find 3 more suckers and do the same all over again.  Wash, Rinse, Repeat.  By the end KILR had gained mountains of money from selling 19 other people's armors and weapons along with the money they gave him.  He then went and bought the best weapons and items available and went on his merry way.   He was kind of a dick, but it made playing through Exodus easier.  ;)
Yeah, but the towns/npcs are lurpy too, lol


I do like the Ultima games where you create your stuff though.   They have the sweet western D&D feel to them.   
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

JoshTurboTrollX

Quote from: Opethian on 11/27/2012, 11:38 AMIolo was a pimp
Quote from: Richard Garriot on 03/17/2030, 02:01 PMIolo would play the mood music while Shamino and Dupre went in for the kill.....
At least that is what they tell the ladies....  ;)
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Arkhan Asylum

Shamino ain't doing shit.

He's into sucking off all the dudes in Skara Brae.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

DildoKKKobold

Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 11/27/2012, 11:25 AMCharacter development in Exodus is however your brain imagines it.
This is the big difference between Western RPGs like Ultima and Skyrim, and jRPGs like Final Fantasy, Grandia, and Lunar. The characters in wRPGs are generally flat and boring, because you can't have a really in-depth story or deep meaningful characters, but still have an incredibly open an non-linear play approach. Thus, they expect you to project a lot of depth into the characters through imagination.

On the other hand, jrpgs can't really have wide open worlds with multiple ways to get through the story, because they have a story they want to tell, and it is near impossible to account for all the ways a player might try and get through the story in a non-linear fashion. jRPGs take you through a deep story, with interesting characters, at the expense of making the game an extremely linear path.

It is pretty stupid to play a jRPG and expect it to be wRPG style adventure, especially if you've played enough jRPGs to know their format. You don't watch a movie and complain that it is too linear. Likewise, you don't go sit down at a game of Monopoly, and complain that the "Go To Jail" card doesn't have deep enough characterization as to why you are headed to jail.


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VestCunt

Quote from: CrackTiger on 11/27/2012, 08:13 AMThe regular game begins after the story scenes after the boss in that cave. Then you'll have to grind and start looking for gear for characters and ration out MP among magic users.
I did a little grinding around the desert town, but it's a joke. There still isn't a reason to save money. That caller girl already has all of the armor she needs and there isn't anything for Cecil to buy. I spent a pittance to upgrade the caller's staff to a rod and tried the bow, but she's not meant to use it. Leveling up is ridiculous - Rydia (sp?) gained two levels in one battle. Apparently spells can't be bought or customized in this game either, which was one of my favorite activities in the original. I replayed FF1 just to try the spells I didn't get the first time. Then I played it again to try the Ninja.

Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 11/27/2012, 10:47 AMAlso, FF1's first dungeon is a straight walk from the door up to Garland, lol.  After that, it's a straight wandering mess over to Provoka so you can walk straight up to a pirate and club him to death and steal his boat and B-Line over to the elves where you basically B-Line yet again.   While FF1 has choices, it sure as hell isn't very detailed, lol.  90% of the citizens are worthless.
FF1 was linear, but it wasn't dumbed down. It didn't start with ten minutes of uncontrollable BS plot and automated battles. Characters had do to a little grinding to get spells and weapons before facing Garland. An encounter with some ghouls on the way to Garland or the treasure chest with the cap can be a TPK if the white mage can't cast HARM in time. On the way to Pravoka, there's a witch's cave to explore. An unprepared party can easily land in Elfville and get killed if they wander toward the Northwest Castle or the Marsh Cave to soon. Forty-five minutes into FFIV and I've already had to watch two fully-automated fights aboard the airship and three predetermined fights (the mist dragon, the titan, and the sergeant's troops at the inn).

Quote... and EotB sucks a fat cock.  Beholders aren't meant to be defeated by poking at them with a staff until they back up into spikes. The 2nd and 3rd game were way better. (But the Goldbox shit is still infintiely more gooderlike)
Hmmm...haven't made it to the ending yet, but I'm having a good time so far on level 4. Frantically retrieving missile weapons before respawning spiders waste my characters with no access to neutralize poison is one of the most terrifying things I've ever experienced in an RPG.

Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 11/27/2012, 04:10 PMIt is pretty stupid to play a jRPG and expect it to be wRPG style adventure, especially if you've played enough jRPGs to know their format. You don't watch a movie and complain that it is too linear.
Where did I say I expected a Western RPG, ya fuckin' douche? Try reading the OP (lines 2 & 3) before trolling. I expected something like the first game. I expected a modicum of customization and challenge. Two of my three comparisons were JRPGs. JRPG's were a decent genre before pandering to the lowest denominator (you). If you prefer having your controller disabled for long periods of lo-fi anime, predetermined battles, and connect-the-dots plot, good for you.
I'm a cunt, always was. Topic Adjourned.

DildoKKKobold

Quote from: VestCunt on 11/27/2012, 07:26 PMWhere did I say I expected a Western RPG, ya fuckin' douche? Try reading the OP (lines 2 & 3) before trolling. I expected something like the first game. I expected a modicum of customization and challenge. Two of my three comparisons were JRPGs. JRPG's were a decent genre before pandering to the lowest denominator (you). If you prefer having your controller disabled for long periods of lo-fi anime, predetermined battles, and connect-the-dots plot, good for you.
You are so fun to poke, because you get so worked up.

Also, I'm not alone in my love of Final Fantasy II.

http://top100.ign.com/2005/021-030.html

And music was SO MUCH COOLER before it started pandering to the lowest common denominator! LOL!
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Quote from: VestCunt on 11/27/2012, 07:26 PMJRPG's were a decent genre before pandering to the lowest denominator (you).
Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 11/27/2012, 08:33 PMAlso, I'm not alone in my love of Final Fantasy II.
http://top100.ign.com/2005/021-030.html
Thanks for supporting my point.
Here's another bastion of keen, discriminating gamers who agree with you:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/snes/522596-final-fantasy-ii/reviews
 
I'm a cunt, always was. Topic Adjourned.

Sparky

Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 11/27/2012, 08:33 PMYou are so fun to poke, because you get so worked up.
Hahaha....he gets worked up ? your mr serious :P

BigusSchmuck

Honestly, Final Fantasy IV is a good game but I like Dragon Quest IV much better. Both I can finish in under 20 hours and at least in Dragon Quest IV I see bunny gals vs some dancer chick jump in the water and swim around. I haven't really enjoyed a Final Fantasy game since the 9th one but as for the Dragon Quest/Warrior games I can play those over and over again and enjoy them immensely vs Final Fantasy games I can play them maybe once or twice and be done with them. Vestcoat, I would give the game at least 6 hours before passing judgement, it is definitely a better game as it progresses but in all honestly once you do finish it, you'll probably never play it again or if you do it will be to do the hard version or the DS version. Hell, they even made a sequel to it and I was dumb enough to download it on my Wii thinking it would recapture the experience I had with the original game. Boy I was wrong. :P On the subject of Ultima Exodus, am I the only one who thinks the NES version had the best music? Someday maybe I'll remix it into some redbook audio once I get the second game ported. 

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: VestCunt on 11/27/2012, 07:26 PMFF1 was linear, but it wasn't dumbed down. It didn't start with ten minutes of uncontrollable BS plot and automated battles. Characters had do to a little grinding to get spells and weapons before facing Garland. An encounter with some ghouls on the way to Garland or the treasure chest with the cap can be a TPK if the white mage can't cast HARM in time. On the way to Pravoka, there's a witch's cave to explore. An unprepared party can easily land in Elfville and get killed if they wander toward the Northwest Castle or the Marsh Cave to soon. Forty-five minutes into FFIV and I've already had to watch two fully-automated fights aboard the airship and three predetermined fights (the mist dragon, the titan, and the sergeant's troops at the inn).
Welcome to first RPG ever made by them versus the 4th one.   2 and 3 had their fair share of 8 bit cutscenes and dialog compared to FF1 as well, and FF2, for all of its cool plot elements, is a completely broken game.

You don't need to grind shit to kill Garland.   buy your gear, walk to garland, beat his face in.  Level 1.  No grinding.  Sometimes you get all the way there without even encountering an enemy.  I never grind until I get to provoka, and even then you can bitchslap Bikke the Pirate and his band of homos pretty easily.

matoya's cave is useless to explore that early aside from the tunes and the map spell since you don't need to go there yet.  If you wander past the safety of sleepy elf town and explore random caves, you deserve death.   Look how well FF2 fairs if you wander out of town and go north.  You die.   No one likes that crap.  That's why they don't do it anymore.

You aren't giving FFIV a fair chance, IMO.  The story/setup is pretty important, and you've hardly gotten anywhere.  Plus there is more extra stuff to explore in FFIV than there is in FF1.  You just haven't arrived to it yet. 

Rydia is the best character in the game.  Only Edge compares to her awesometude.

QuoteHmmm...haven't made it to the ending yet, but I'm having a good time so far on level 4. Frantically retrieving missile weapons before respawning spiders waste my characters with no access to neutralize poison is one of the most terrifying things I've ever experienced in an RPG.
Whoops.  Didn't mean to spoil the crappy ending of the crappy game.  lol.   Play the second one.  It's better.  Also if you like EOTB, try that new Legend of Grimrock game.    It plays the same.
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DildoKKKobold

Quote from: guest on 11/27/2012, 10:53 PM
Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 11/27/2012, 08:33 PMYou are so fun to poke, because you get so worked up.
Hahaha....he gets worked up ? your mr serious :P
Sorry Sparky. I forgot that...

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I just really can't help but see this...

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This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

VestCunt

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 11/27/2012, 11:44 PMVestcoat, I would give the game at least 6 hours before passing judgement, it is definitely a better game as it progresses but in all honestly once you do finish it, you'll probably never play it again
Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 11/28/2012, 12:03 PMYou aren't giving FFIV a fair chance, IMO.  The story/setup is pretty important, and you've hardly gotten anywhere.  Plus there is more extra stuff to explore in FFIV than there is in FF1.  You just haven't arrived to it yet. 
I'm sure the game picks up eventually and has some kind of challenge, I just can't believe what a big departure it is from the first game. Does it ever allow me to customize anything? Will I ever get to pick and choose spells? Will my actions ever determine who's in my party or when these stupid characters decide to come and go? Is there much overlap in which characters can use different arms and items? Or is every piece of treasure meant to go to a specific party member?

Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 11/28/2012, 12:03 PMWhoops.  Didn't mean to spoil the crappy ending of the crappy game.  lol.   Play the second one.  It's better. 
Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 11/27/2012, 11:44 PMOn the subject of Ultima Exodus, am I the only one who thinks the NES version had the best music? Someday maybe I'll remix it into some redbook audio once I get the second game ported. 
Can't play EotB2. Can't compare the Exodus music. I'm a freak who plays all of my Western RPGs on consoles or not at all. The vortex of computer gaming sucked me in deep and I had to swear it off. NES Exodus is my favorite music of the home ports. The sedated, calming tunes of False Prophet on the SNES is second place.
I'm a cunt, always was. Topic Adjourned.

HercTNT

Its truly a preference thing really, rpg players are very passionate about what they consider to be a good game. I do get alittle tired of "the graphics suck so that kinda ruins the game" mentality though. Rpg's should not be so dependent on graphics and more on gameplay and depth. some of the best rpg's have terrible graphics. Take a crack at Nethack or dungeon crawl or any number of muds for that matter.

Arkhan Asylum

FFIV is harder if you play the Japanese one.

That being said, the game is not customizable.  Every character does a set thing, and that is it.   You will find gear that can be used by multiple people.  But, as a whole, most things generally go to one person.   You also don't get to dictate your party.   It's similar to FF2 in that regard.   You have to do what it says.   

It's a great game though, with alot of things to explore and get into, provided you dig the characters.   
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

HercTNT

I think that's VestCunts problem with it. the very linear path of each character. then again, the other way to look at it is each character is unique with its own story and side quests. honestly, its not the first, but one of the the few games at the time that did that. The majority of rpg's these days all follow that formula.

JoshTurboTrollX

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Quote from: VestCunt on 11/28/2012, 03:59 PM
Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 11/27/2012, 11:44 PMOn the subject of Ultima Exodus, am I the only one who thinks the NES version had the best music? Someday maybe I'll remix it into some redbook audio once I get the second game ported.  
Can't play EotB2. Can't compare the Exodus music. I'm a freak who plays all of my Western RPGs on consoles or not at all. The vortex of computer gaming sucked me in deep and I had to swear it off. NES Exodus is my favorite music of the home ports. The sedated, calming tunes of False Prophet on the SNES is second place.
A few years back I was delighted to find some remixed/j-popped versions of Exodus that must have came out around the time of the NES release.  Some really cool stuff.  A few of the tracks had lyrics added too!!  LOVE EXODUS' soundtrack.  

http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/u

Edit: I found a little music video I made using one of the j-popped Exodus tunes.  Enjoy!!  :D
Jossshhhhh...Legendary TurboTrollX-16: He revenge-bans PCE Developers/Ys IV Localizers from PCE Facebook groups and destroyed 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Josh and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner (extortion/blackmail!), never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: JoshTurboTrollX-16 on 11/29/2012, 06:07 AM
Quote from: VestCunt on 11/28/2012, 03:59 PM
Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 11/27/2012, 11:44 PMOn the subject of Ultima Exodus, am I the only one who thinks the NES version had the best music? Someday maybe I'll remix it into some redbook audio once I get the second game ported. 
Can't play EotB2. Can't compare the Exodus music. I'm a freak who plays all of my Western RPGs on consoles or not at all. The vortex of computer gaming sucked me in deep and I had to swear it off. NES Exodus is my favorite music of the home ports. The sedated, calming tunes of False Prophet on the SNES is second place.
A few years back I was delighted to find some remixed/j-popped versions of Exodus that must have came out around the time of the NES release.  Some really cool stuff.  A few of the tracks had lyrics added too!!  LOVE EXODUS' soundtrack. 

http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks/u

Edit: I found a little music video I made using one of the j-popped Exodus tunes.  Enjoy!!  :D
Those versions are from the musical cassette tape that came with Ultima Exodus for MSX.


HITTTTOMIIIII NO NAIIIIFUUUUUUUU
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geise

Play FFV please.  So much better and has the job class system.  Much more enjoyable.

Arkhan Asylum

Yeah.  FFV is tits on toast. good shit right htuhruhtwu4rgf bfgt dfvcfsfovgijradhtyguyhjikl8oli9kuytjhg43yuj7iklokuyhtjr
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HercTNT

Agreed FFV is a fantastically better game than 4. love the music to.

Arkhan Asylum

I prefer FFIV over V, story wise.

Rydia is also my favorite FF character ever.
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Mathius

What do some of you guys think of FF IX? I have been thinking about picking up FF IX and Suikoden finally. I have been meaning to get Suikoden II as well but ebay has killed that idea. Anyhow, FF IX. Thoughts?

roflmao

Quote from: Mathius on 12/12/2012, 10:30 PMWhat do some of you guys think of FF IX? I have been thinking about picking up FF IX and Suikoden finally. I have been meaning to get Suikoden II as well but ebay has killed that idea. Anyhow, FF IX. Thoughts?
After the US version of Final Fantasy II, Final Fantasy IX is my favorite. Even though it looks better than FF7, it has a lot of old-school nods that kept me interested until the end. 

I only recently picked up FF3 for the SNES and haven't finished it yet (though I'm thoroughly enjoying it). I never made it all the way through disc 2 of FF7; it just didn't hold my interest.  I skipped FF8 all-together.  But I loved FF9.  I've played pretty far into FFX, but I found that VERY linear and I doubt I'll ever finish it.  I haven't played any of the others.  (I take that back, I played some of FF5 when it was released on the PlayStation, but probably didn't get more than 5 hours into it.)

Opethian

Game play in FF IX is awesome. THe story isnt bad.Id rather play this again than VIII.
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Arkhan Asylum

FF9 is ok.  The characters look kind of retarded though.    It's the last good FF game.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

BigusSchmuck

Quote from: Mathius on 12/12/2012, 10:30 PMWhat do some of you guys think of FF IX? I have been thinking about picking up FF IX and Suikoden finally. I have been meaning to get Suikoden II as well but ebay has killed that idea. Anyhow, FF IX. Thoughts?
Suikoden rules. I can't believe the prices on it though. FF IX (as others have stated) is the last good FF game. 8 is a complete waste of time.

Mathius

Thanks for your opinions guys. I played FF VIII back when it was the hottest thing in town and made it about half way through. I just previously completed FF VII in '97 so if FF VIII didn't hold my attention then I doubt it would now. Looks like FF IX is a sure fire purchase.

Arkhan Asylum

FF8 was a complete pile of dicks after the halfway point the first time I played it.   But after playing 10 and 12

I went back to FFVIII and went "yeah, this isn't too bad"

The whole Garden setting is pretty bitchin either way.
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NightWolve

Quote from: Mathius on 12/12/2012, 10:30 PMI have been meaning to get Suikoden II as well but ebay has killed that idea.
I'd be happy to give you a rip from my original sometime if you want. I haven't even touched it, like many other PS1/PS2 games I bought, but I regret that I took the shrink-wrap off just to look at the manual given that it became some sort of Holy Grail as far as eBay goes... But yeah, hit me up some time if you want it. I dunno if you got a modded unit to play a CD-R, but you can play it with the ePSXe emulator if not.

Oh, I have Suikoden I as well which I actually beat... I dunno, not my thing, controlling tons of characters like that... I hardly remember the story, so I can't have thought much about it BITD.

EDIT: Took a quick look at eBay and it's actually come way *down* from what I remember... Still big bucks for a shrink-wrapped one, but used ones are a lot better! Unless my memory's foggy, I could swear it went for $350+ used or more. A few of the BINs now are $150, and starting bid at $130.

BigusSchmuck

Quote from: NightWolve on 12/17/2012, 12:15 PM
Quote from: Mathius on 12/12/2012, 10:30 PMI have been meaning to get Suikoden II as well but ebay has killed that idea.
I'd be happy to give you a rip from my original sometime if you want. I haven't even touched it, like many other PS1/PS2 games I bought, but I regret that I took the shrink-wrap off just to look at the manual given that it became some sort of Holy Grail as far as eBay goes... But yeah, hit me up some time if you want it. I dunno if you got a modded unit to play a CD-R, but you can play it with the ePSXe emulator if not.

Oh, I have Suikoden I as well which I actually beat... I dunno, not my thing, controlling tons of characters like that... I hardly remember the story, so I can't have thought much about it BITD.

EDIT: Took a quick look at eBay and it's actually come way *down* from what I remember... Still big bucks for a shrink-wrapped one, but used ones are a lot better! Unless my memory's foggy, I could swear it went for $350+ used or more. A few of the BINs now are $150, and starting bid at $130.
You can if you got a gold finger or a old gameshark. It really depends if its the old school playstation 1 or the newer model without the expansion slot. The playstation 1 with the expansion slots go for pretty cheap these days. If all else fails, emulate it. :)

Mathius

That would be awesome, Wolvie. I have a modded PS2 fat that will squeal with glee. I'll get a hold of you after work.

NightWolve

Quote from: Mathius on 12/17/2012, 03:55 PMThat would be awesome, Wolvie. I have a modded PS2 fat that will squeal with glee. I'll get a hold of you after work.
Alright, all yours for the cost of $0.00! ;) Anybody else want the link/info, you can PM me or Mat. It's uploaded to a registered share, so it's gonna be sitting there indefinitely and somebody else might as well have it if they want it. Tested it with ePSXe 1.8 and it worked (after tweaking the right video plugin).

JoshTurboTrollX

Quote from: NightWolve on 12/17/2012, 10:07 PM
Quote from: Mathius on 12/17/2012, 03:55 PMThat would be awesome, Wolvie. I have a modded PS2 fat that will squeal with glee. I'll get a hold of you after work.
Alright, all yours for the cost of $0.00! ;) Anybody else want the link/info, you can PM me or Mat. It's uploaded to a registered share, so it's gonna be sitting there indefinitely and somebody else might as well have it if they want it. Tested it with ePSXe 1.8 and it worked (after tweaking the right video plugin).
Question:  Will that play on a modded PSP?  I have been able to download and play other PSX games.... just curious.

if so: You sir have a PM.  ;)
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NightWolve

I don't have a PSP, but it would depend on a) if the emulator is compatible with the game, and b) what image format is supported. I'm sure it likely supports the CCD format (CloneCD) which is what I ripped it to, but who knows how good the emulation is and how many games work.

Must be pretty cool to play retro stuff on a PSP. I remember helping Bernie get Dracula X to work with the PCEP emulator years ago. That led to tweaks for TurboRip to rip the image properly per what PCEP wanted (mono MP3 files, a TOC file, and the use of a 01.xxx-to-99.xxx file naming convention).

JoshTurboTrollX

Quote from: NightWolve on 12/18/2012, 02:40 PMI don't have a PSP, but it would depend on a) if the emulator is compatible with the game, and b) what image format is supported. I'm sure it likely supports the CCD format (CloneCD) which is what I ripped it to, but who knows how good the emulation is and how many games work.

Must be pretty cool to play retro stuff on a PSP. I remember helping Bernie get Dracula X to work with the PCEP emulator years ago. That led to tweaks for TurboRip to rip the image properly per what PCEP wanted (mono MP3 files, a TOC file, and the use of a 01.xxx-to-99.xxx file naming convention).
Thank you NightWolve :)
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