public beta of my new game chuck NO-RICe karate

[touko]

Hi all, it's time to show the beta of my current wotef/ik+ style game .

I have completed menu and first level at 98% .
In the menu you can set difficulty, language, see basic credits, and choose between 1 ou 2Player mode .
For now, you can not choose your caracter in 2P mode .

You can donwload the beta here : https://rapidshare.com/files/2883628301/level1.zip

moves are (sorry it's in french) :

entrée = RUN
s = select

F = I
D = II

flêches = directions

Coups

punch = I
foot = II

I+II = reversal
II+haut =skipped kick (not sure in english)
II+diag+avant+haut =high kick
I+diag+avant+haut = high punch

II+diag+avant+bas = low kick

<- + I + II = kick back
diag+up+forward/backward = flip forward/back

when opponant attack, opposite direction = high block/middle block
when opponant attack, crouch opposite direction = low block

up = jump
down = couch

select =very funny paused game  

And a little demo (nothing impressive) for testing 3 big sprites (2 of 80*192 pixels, and 1 96*192 pixels) on screen, a 14 parallaxes background, 289 colors at once, and a very cool cda music .

https://rapidshare.com/files/1200387366/demo-spr.zip

Or you can watch a video here (by far less smooth) :

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Downloading now for weekend diddling around.  Thanks!

[Arkhan Asylum]

Downloading now for weekend diddling around.  Thanks!

fuck yeah, DIDDLE.


I think there may be room to demo this at CCAG for you, Touko. 

so, ill be burnin a copy to show people.

Do you have some sort of site/place for people to arrive at to see what all you're doing?

[jlued686]

Public beta = awesome. Do you have a YouTube video of this running?

EDIT: Nevermind. Found it:

[touko]

I think there may be room to demo this at CCAG for you, Touko.  

so, ill be burnin a copy to show people.

Thanks man  , but beware, i don't know if my cue sheet file is correct (it work on emulator), but seems to be not correct for real hardware (CDA music don't works) .

Do you have some sort of site/place for people to arrive at to see what all you're doing?

Not really, and it's in french  

Public beta = awesome. Do you have a YouTube video of this running?

EDIT: Nevermind. Found it:

Yes but it saddly recorded, and i hate youtube for game, it ruin all animations .

But you can also see a video of sprites demo :

[Arkhan Asylum]

Thanks man , but beware, i don't know if my cue sheet file is correct (it work on emulator), but seems to be not correct for real hardware (CDA music don't works) .

I can fix it, no problem there.  When I do, ill give you the tweaked one that works to play the tunes.

Unless OldMan beats me to it.


You should get some kinda englishy site for people to pop on to and see your stuff. 

[touko]

Lol, ok, i'don't understand how toc files really works on pce ..
In a single overlay with one CDA, my burning CD's works well .

I think i'm going to need lessons for that in future .

You should get some kinda englishy site for people to pop on to and see your stuff.

Yes, this is why, i'll post here as soon as possible .
And all your job at aetherbyte, and those at frozen, boost me in my own PCE projects .  
And i'm glad to see new coders in PCE scene, like spenoza ..

it's a pity that ccovell, and tomaitheous are not more active  ...

[VestCunt]

Yes but it saddly recorded, and i hate youtube for game, it ruin all animations .

It also compresses audio into garbage. Vimeo is the way to go.

[touko]

thanks, i 'll try this for the next time 

[T2KFreeker]

Now this is cool! I really like this. I can't wait for the version coming with the fixed audio! Awesome. I'm so happy to see new games coming. Between you and Arkhan, I should be plenty busy!

[jasonbar]

Very cool!

My French is...adequate, but I've also got lots of experience in writing & publishing & editing English.

If you want translation help for an English version, I'm happy to try to help!

-Jason

[touko]

Very cool!

My French is...adequate, but I've also got lots of experience in writing & publishing & editing English.

If you want translation help for an English version, I'm happy to try to help!

-Jason

OOh thanks, in fact it's possible, i have some english text translated by me, but i'am not sure if it's correct .
Some french expressions have no equivalent in English (words sense are not the same).

[TheClash603]

I love Karate Champ, one of my most played arcade games growing up.  Since this has a Karate Champ vibe to it, I approve!

Only suggestion I make is that the shadow under the ref seems to look a little funny.  Probably would be more solid to just pull the shadow.  I was wondering why the guy had too many appendages until I figured it out.

[jasonbar]

Very cool!

My French is...adequate, but I've also got lots of experience in writing & publishing & editing English.

If you want translation help for an English version, I'm happy to try to help!

-Jason

OOh thanks, in fact it's possible, i have some english text translated by me, but i'am not sure if it's correct .
Some french expressions have no equivalent in English (words sense are not the same).

PM me whenever you want a hand!

-Jason

[Mishran]

Game looks really good, Touko. Love the Chuck Norris(No-rice ) look alike. Perhaps I missed it mentioned before, but is this going to get some pressed release love when finished? Keep up the awesome work. Looking forward to the finished product.

[touko]

PM me whenever you want a hand!

-Jason

ok, i'll do next week .

Only suggestion I make is that the shadow under the ref seems to look a little funny.  Probably would be more solid to just pull the shadow.  I was wondering why the guy had too many appendages until I figured it out.

Ah, the shadows are strange ??
there are no special pattern for that, i re-use the current caracter pattern like shadow ..

Game looks really good, Touko. Love the Chuck Norris(No-rice ) look alike. Perhaps I missed it mentioned before, but is this going to get some pressed release love when finished? Keep up the awesome work. Looking forward to the finished product.

I don't know because a professional pressed require a min of 500 copies, and 1000 $/€ ..
And i don't want to play frisbee until my life's end  

[ParanoiaDragon]

I wonder if there's maybe someone in our community that could be some sort of partner in your endeavor, so that they would be a North American distributor of your game, & you could be the European distributor.  That way, you only have 250 potential frisbee's to worry about, instead of 500.

[PikachuWarrior]

i don't understand what the title of the game refers to? is it a play on words or some culture?

[touko]

I wonder if there's maybe someone in our community that could be some sort of partner in your endeavor, so that they would be a North American distributor of your game, & you could be the European distributor.  That way, you only have 250 potential frisbee's to worry about, instead of 500.

Yes,but 500 copies is the min, i think for all pressing houses ..
For less, you just can make a standard burned CDs .

i don't understand what the title of the game refers to? is it a play on words or some culture?

eh, chuck NORRIS -> chuck NO-RICE  

[jlued686]

Kickstarter. I'd throw in $50-$100 to get the game pressed.

[touko]

Kickstarter. I'd throw in $50-$100 to get the game pressed.

Yes, but without a glassmaster ..

[Keranu]

You can do a minimum of 300 replicated discs at nationwidedisc.com, the company Aetherbutt used to press Insanity and the one Frozen Utopia is currently dealing with to release Mysterious Song. That's the lowest minimum order I've seen.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

You can do a minimum of 300 replicated discs at nationwidedisc.com, the company Aetherbyte used to press Insanity and the one Frozen Utopia is currently dealing with to release Mysterious Song. That's the lowest minimum order I've seen.

But it's only $15 more for 500 discs.  That hardly seems worth it.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Kickstarter. I'd throw in $50-$100 to get the game pressed.

Yes, but without a glassmaster ..

500 is the sweet spot.  You don't need much, and you don't even need a kickstarter.   Just take some preorders

[PikachuWarrior]

I wonder if there's maybe someone in our community that could be some sort of partner in your endeavor, so that they would be a North American distributor of your game, & you could be the European distributor.  That way, you only have 250 potential frisbee's to worry about, instead of 500.

Oh, I see. Would have gotten it if it was like Chuck No-Risk or something But I get it now!

Yes,but 500 copies is the min, i think for all pressing houses ..
For less, you just can make a standard burned CDs .

i don't understand what the title of the game refers to? is it a play on words or some culture?

eh, chuck NORRIS -> chuck NO-RICE 

[OldMan]

500 is the sweet spot.  You don't need much, and you don't even need a kickstarter.   Just take some preorders...

Yep. IIRC, 30 preorders at $20 each pays for all the cds and some of the mailing costs.
Sign and number the first 50, and everyone should be happy.

Of course, you might be left with 400+ discs to sell later....

[Keranu]

You can do a minimum of 300 replicated discs at nationwidedisc.com, the company Aetherbutt used to press Insanity and the one Frozen Utopia is currently dealing with to release Mysterious Song. That's the lowest minimum order I've seen.

But it's only $15 more for 500 discs.  That hardly seems worth it.

We considered doing 300 for MSR since we figured there would be so many unsold copies left, but since pre-sales were doing so well we up'ed the order just to be safe.

[ParanoiaDragon]

500 is the sweet spot.  You don't need much, and you don't even need a kickstarter.   Just take some preorders...

Yep. IIRC, 30 preorders at $20 each pays for all the cds and some of the mailing costs.
Sign and number the first 50, and everyone should be happy.

Of course, you might be left with 400+ discs to sell later....

That's why I was thinking, maybe someone could have 250 of the 500, & be a distributor for North America....assuming anyone has the time or room to do this ofcoarse.

[Arkhan Asylum]

500 is the sweet spot.  You don't need much, and you don't even need a kickstarter.   Just take some preorders...

Yep. IIRC, 30 preorders at $20 each pays for all the cds and some of the mailing costs.
Sign and number the first 50, and everyone should be happy.

Of course, you might be left with 400+ discs to sell later....

30 * 30 covered Insanity.!

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Sign and number the first 50, and everyone should be happy.

Noooo!

That's why I was thinking, maybe someone could have 250 of the 500, & be a distributor for North America....assuming anyone has the time or room to do this ofcoarse.

I have both if needed/wanted.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Signing and numbering these homebrew turbob games is a bad fuckin' idea.

I'll never do it again.

[soop]

Fun fact; This game is obviously based on IK/IK+, which I LOVED for the Amiga.  But DYK, Archer Maclean drew his original sprites by pausing a VCR of Enter The Dragon, and tracing the characters straight onto some clingfilm (saran wrap in the US?) spread over his TV screen.

All the sound effects were also sampled straight from Enter The Dragon, which I watched last night and is amazing.

*edit* which all makes this quite ironic, seeing that Chuck Norris wasn't in Enter the Dragon, but WAS in Return of the Dragon.

[touko]

LOL, I did not know that ..

the idea of chuck norris was come because player caracter looks like chuck,and at start, this is realy fortuitous .  

[termis]

That's pretty cool.  I loved Karate Champ as a kid, and I'd chip in for this.

Yeah, a pressed version would be cool.  Just get it ready for pressing, and people will pay for the pressing cost.

As for pricing, if I were a homebrewer, I'd do a voluntary "pay what you will model" -- say anything over $5+shipping.  That way, you won't have 500 copies sitting in your living room, your game gets a bit more circulation, and you probably won't even end up losing out monetarily because you'll probably sell quite a bit more in the end.  That's gotta be a win-win situation for everyone.

And if people cough up a little more (say $20+), then throw a little something extra (i.e. signature).  That way, there's never room for people to pull a RoyVegas or anything since a signed copy is never limited in volume.

Hell, from the talks here, it seems like you can even let other people do the distribution work if you don't want to bother with that.

[touko]

yes you 're right ..
But nothing is decided for now, i'll must finish some levels to take a final decision .

I would love to make a pressed game, but a pressed one will be more expensive than a single duplicated ..
A duplicated game can be sold 15/25$, a pressed 30/35$ ..

A totaly free game is also possible ..

[Arkhan Asylum]

That's pretty cool.  I loved Karate Champ as a kid, and I'd chip in for this.

Yeah, a pressed version would be cool.  Just get it ready for pressing, and people will pay for the pressing cost.

As for pricing, if I were a homebrewer, I'd do a voluntary "pay what you will model" -- say anything over $5+shipping.  That way, you won't have 500 copies sitting in your living room, your game gets a bit more circulation, and you probably won't even end up losing out monetarily because you'll probably sell quite a bit more in the end.  That's gotta be a win-win situation for everyone.

And if people cough up a little more (say $20+), then throw a little something extra (i.e. signature).  That way, there's never room for people to pull a RoyVegas or anything since a signed copy is never limited in volume.

Hell, from the talks here, it seems like you can even let other people do the distribution work if you don't want to bother with that.

Signing shit is a recipe for disaster.  Dont do it.

You can get the game pressed for <1000$ probably.  So, youd need like 50 people to pony up cash before hand.

[touko]

eh ark, i'am in europe, not in US ..

Our prices are in euros, not in dollars ..

[Arkhan Asylum]

oh. well, you could press it here! 

I dont know anything about french pressing house prices

[touko]

oh. well, you could press it here!  

I dont know anything about french pressing house prices

Are the same than US, but in euros   ..
Approximately 1000€ (1200$) for 500 copies.

This is why, if i press my game i must calculate in euros, i must sold it for 30/35€ only for covering the proffessional pressing,unless the pre-orders are more than 40 copies,the price can be lower .
The more pre-orders are, more the price will be lower.

[ParanoiaDragon]

oh. well, you could press it here! 

I dont know anything about french pressing house prices

Are the same than US, but in euros  ..
Approximately 1000€ (1200$) for 500 copies.

This is why, if i press my game i must calculate in euros, i must sold it for 30/35€ only for covering the proffessional pressing,unless the pre-orders are more than 40 copies,the price can be lower .
The more pre-orders are, more the price will be lower.

That sounds like a plan!  I'd pay $30+ for it personally.

[touko]

That sounds like a plan!  I'd pay $30+ for it personally.

Thanks ..  
 
But personaly , i think this is too expensive ..
i think 20/25$ will be the best price .

I don't want make money with it, but professional pressing have a cost, for people who wishes..