I Wish Mods Here Were More Militant

[jlued686]

I'd have to be notified in the extreme cases and I don't recall getting any notices.  If someone did report a post/thread and I didn't respond, then I apologize for that.  I get a lot of reports from Sega-16 which I ignore since someone else does the babysitting and I may have just ignored the one from PCEFX out of habit.  But still, we should have a more active mod.  Who would be willing to do this?  Like I said, I can talk to Aaron about it and he can do the promotion.

Regal Sin hasn't done anything ban-worthy yet.  He's just creepy.

I would be willing to do it. I've been here 9 years and come here nearly every day, multiple times/day.

Regarding bannings, after about the 10th or 11th time Xray referred to somebody as a "faggot" I started hitting the "Report to moderator" button. Must've done it about three or four times, yet he remains.

Regal hasn't done anything ban-worth? I'd beg to differ. I know this is "Fighting Street" and there are supposedly no rules, but going the kiddie porn route is really out of line...to put it mildly. And outside of that, the guy does his best to derail every conversation he enters. He's an all-around nuisance and makes people not want to come here.

[Drakon]

Regalsin swears a lot, is racist, and rude.  He adds nothing useful to the conversations that he posts in and he adds nothing useful to the community.  And he shows no sign of stopping that stuff.  Add all that up and I think it's pretty ban worthy.  I don't mind if you give him warning pms to make it fair.  But something tells me no amount of warnings will make him stop.

[PunkCryborg]

What about the fact that 19 people are ignoring him? One of the forum rules is keeping things on topic and he goes way out of his way to derail every thread.

[Drakon]

I'm not militant enough to care about people being off topic.

What about the fact that 19 people are ignoring him? One of the forum rules is keeping things on topic and he goes way out of his way to derail every thread.

[Sadler]

Regalsin swears a lot

I don't fucking care.

...is racist...

THIS I care about, and it's explicitly against forum rules.

and rude.

Don't have a problem with this.

He adds nothing useful to the conversations that he posts in and he adds nothing useful to the community.  And he shows no sign of stopping that stuff.  Add all that up and I think it's pretty ban worthy.  I don't mind if you give him warning pms to make it fair.  But something tells me no amount of warnings will make him stop.

This I totally agree with. Look, the guy's a troll. Everything he posts is a dumb ass act to elicit a negative response. His singular purpose is to piss people off, and he's quite accomplished at it. The very fact that he gets more coherent the more upset he gets is evidence of this. He's useless and I don't understand why anyone here thinks his posts are insightful. Regal and gunmetalhed at the other site are the only two people I've broken down and ignored.

[PunkCryborg]

That rag has make up and all kinds of stuff done to her.  A tight arse bitch who needs to be put into her place

and sexist

[SamIAm]

I thought regalsin had some charm when he would show up periodically to drop harmless non-sequiturs in otherwise routine threads. It kept me on my toes. I'm one of the ones ignoring him now, though. Whether he's real or fake, the whole kiddy porn thing should have forced some kind of resolution. At the very least, it should have been a one-time occurrence and then back to normal programming. Instead, it's like a plague is spreading.

Right now, we're trying to passively ostracize him, and that's bullshit. It seems like a pretty clear-cut case here. If I were a mod, I would have warned him weeks ago, and otherwise likely have banned him by now.

[Keranu]

I have warned Regal Sin weeks ago. If he ever starts the pedo stuff again, someone let me know and I'll ban him. Otherwise I'd hate to ban the guy, he's hilarious. I don't know how anyone could possibly be offended by his random moon language babble!

[HercTNT]

finding him hilarious does not make up for the fact he basically violates most the rules of these forums the second he started talking pedo shit he should have been gone, the constant racist rants is just icing on the cake. would anyone else be allowed to make the same statements regal makes, or do we entertain him just because we thing he's nuts? two wrongs don't make a right.

[hizaygizirlz]

Please ban Regal.  That's what he wants anyway.  Another notch in his personal wiki of douchebaggery.

I'd vote NecroPhile as well if he wanted to do it.  He doesn't fall on either side of the extreme to nice or to mean, seems to keep his emotions out of it so he won't use it for a personal vendetta or power trip (like 90% of the rest of us) and is extremely active on the site.

[RuninRuder]

NecroPhile is the obvious choice.  He's intelligent and sensible.  He hangs around the site like all day long and participates in lots of discussions.  He's respected by new members and us old codgers alike.  And the fact that he's actually knowledgeable about the TG-16/PCE bolsters his status in the community.

[Gogan]

Look, the guy's a troll. Everything he posts is a dumb ass act to elicit a negative response. His singular purpose is to piss people off, and he's quite accomplished at it. The very fact that he gets more coherent the more upset he gets is evidence of this.

I've noticed this as well. He starts making sense when people stop being all like O_o with his posts. Ignore it and he'll go away. Don't give him what he wants. He does nothing to take away from my enjoyment of the site.  Guy is just weird with obvious problems

[Gogan]

Oh, and I'd vote NecroPhile as well for mod.

 I think I'd actually be good as I read most threads, but I'm too lazy to post a lot, and ultimately would probably be lazy as a mod 

[Tatsujin]

NecroPhile 4 mod. crystal clear case.

[JoshTurboTrollX]

NecroPhile 4 mod. crystal clear case.

Spending a good chunk of time around here doesn't necessarily mean he'd want that responsibility, I know I wouldn't.

[jlued686]

I have warned Regal Sin weeks ago. If he ever starts the pedo stuff again, someone let me know and I'll ban him. Otherwise I'd hate to ban the guy, he's hilarious. I don't know how anyone could possibly be offended by his random moon language babble!

"Pedo stuff" gets a warning? Really? C'mon, Keranu. And it's obvious that you're in the minority finding him "hilarious". Racist/sexist ranting, with the occasional "pedo stuff" sure isn't hilarious to me.

[geise]

I have warned Regal Sin weeks ago. If he ever starts the pedo stuff again, someone let me know and I'll ban him. Otherwise I'd hate to ban the guy, he's hilarious. I don't know how anyone could possibly be offended by his random moon language babble!

That's all fine and dandy you find Regal hilarious, but being a mod you need to see how it affects the forum as a whole.  If majority of the forum has a problem with it, well...then there might be a problem.

I don't mean to sound like a dick, but as of late Regal has gotten out of hand.  If you've warned him multiple times and he's blatantly ignoring you and he keeps doing what he's doing (which he has) then something should probably be done.

[Gogan]

Personally, I think he's utterly full of shit. Think about it, he prides himself in getting banned from sites all around the interwebs; what better MO than a racist incoherent pedo to get the job done? I'd ban him for just being a fucking loser at life.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

I'm willing to be a mod.  For the record, the only people I'd ban are regal for racist/sexist comments and for being consistently off topic (worse than Kitsune ever was), xray for continued use of 'faggot', and ninnypants just for being ninny.

[geise]

NecroPhile, you should've been a mod a long time ago.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I want to be a moderator too.

I'd only ban people for reselling our homrewbobs for way too much.

bwahahhahahaehurhrrhrurhrurrrr

[Keranu]

My post still stands: if RegalSin has made any recent pedo posts, notify me of them and I will ban him. As far as I know, he's cut it out since I sent him a PM about it but since I only read maybe 5% of the forum I wouldn't really know.

People also have to stop giving trolls energy to feed off of, that is exactly what keeps them going in the first place. If I were to ban every troll here it would only encourage them to keep coming back again and again like Nintega. Yes they are assholes, but talking like an asshole back is only adding fuel to the fire.

One other thing that has bothered me about this forum are the so called "veteran" members that won't give newbies a chance to stick around. We were all once n00bs, there is no reason to bark at them if they aren't aware of PCE etiquette or don't know how to use the search tool, etc.. etc... Just cut them some slack, OK?

The reason I don't read most of them forum is not because of these trolls or n00bs, but because of the general attitude of some of the members that have been around here for years. It's gotten as bad as the Neo-Geo forum.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

The pedo posts were on Fighting Street, so you should be warning him of an impending ban for going repeatedly off topic and using racial/sexual slurs (a.k.a. - things that are actually against the rules).

[Keranu]

I warned RegalSin about pedophilia on September 9th, so if anyone can find any pedo-related posts after that date, your wish is my command .

Otherwise I don't do bans, I'll leave that to the other mods. The only reason I'm making an exception for RegalSin is because it may become a liability issue for Aaron/PCEFX if authorities get involved.

If I were to strictly follow the rules and ban people for derailing topics and refusing to keep "cursing at a minimum", I don't think any of us would be posting here right now . Yes I'm a stubborn son of a bitch, but many are aware that I'm the joke mod around here!

[Arkhan Asylum]

so we have a joke mod, a lazy mod, a nonexistent mod (Is Nat ok?), and an admin that is never on.

errrrrrr

[jlued686]

Yes I'm a stubborn son of a bitch, but many are aware that I'm the joke mod around here!

I'm beginning to think there isn't any other kind of mod on PCEFX.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

If I were to strictly follow the rules and ban people for derailing topics and refusing to keep "cursing at a minimum", I don't think any of us would be posting here right now .

There's a big difference between regal making hundreds of worthless, off-topic posts and a usually helpful, contributing member going off on the occasional tangent or continuing a discussion after it's morphed from the original topic; and there's an even bigger difference between using racial/sexual slurs (expressly forbidden by the rules) and someone cursing (merely not recommended).  But hey, don't let common sense get in the way of your love for regal.

[Keranu]

I do love RegalSin! I have no shame in admitting that.

It's also common sense that you don't put out a fire with gasoline. The point I am trying to make in this thread is that there's only so much moderators can do for the community, there is just as much responsibility placed on the members to keep the peace around here too.

There's a big difference between regal making hundreds of worthless, off-topic posts and a usually helpful, contributing member going off on the occasional tangent or continuing a discussion after it's morphed from the original topic; and there's an even bigger difference between using racial/sexual slurs (expressly forbidden by the rules) and someone cursing (merely not recommended).

Don't forget this rule: "Foul language in the form of insults directed towards other forum members may result in a ban."

[HercTNT]

I do love RegalSin! I have no shame in admitting that.

It's also common sense that you don't put out a fire with gasoline. The point I am trying to make in this thread is that there's only so much moderators can do for the community, there is just as much responsibility placed on the members to keep the peace around here too.

There's a big difference between regal making hundreds of worthless, off-topic posts and a usually helpful, contributing member going off on the occasional tangent or continuing a discussion after it's morphed from the original topic; and there's an even bigger difference between using racial/sexual slurs (expressly forbidden by the rules) and someone cursing (merely not recommended).

Don't forget this rule: "Foul language in the form of insults directed towards other forum members may result in a ban."

I'm painfully divided on your logic in all this. I agree that the mods can't throw on there elves slippers and a cape and save the forums from all the evil doers. And yes, the community bye and large should also have a vested interest in helping keep the peace for the greater good. However, and I be very naive here, are mods not chosen on there qualities to, well, moderate? Even the best of us around here have got into stupid little pissing contests were tensions flare for a few and then we settle down. Insults are thrown, naughty little words are uttered, then we move on. I would think that would be considered power for the course with so many different opinions and egos in a retrogaming environment. Having some guy come in here throwing racial slurs around begging for his kiddy porn back, one would think would set off the red light. If thats not enough, and bad language could be, then we got everything way backwards. Its not personal, and I don't mean to draw so much attention to you in general, but your point of view on this matter is really unfortunate in my opinion.

[CGQuarterly]

I have to say that I see Keranu's point about Regal.  What if we *ALL* put Regal on "ignore" en masse?  If literally no one sees what he posts, then maybe he'll give up.  I'm not a fan of the ignore function (as I've stated previously), but in this case, maybe it's the best way to take the wind out of his sails.

I also agree about the attitude towards newbies who are actually coming here and trying to just have conversations about Turbo shit.  Some newb just started a thread asking what people would do if they were in NEC's shoes during the console wars, and the first reply was someone telling him/her to use the search function.  There are just better ways to handle shit.  Just reply to the post if you're interested in the discussion, and then say "hey, if you want to read more on this topic, you can use the search function to dig up some old threads where this was discussed a while back".  If you're only going to reply to tell him to use the search function, then maybe it's better not to reply at all.

I'll freely admit that I got all caught up in the xray dramarama, and I'm certainly going to stand up for myself and not take shit from people, but I agree that we should be careful not to let this place turn into Neo-Geo, where unless you're a 10-year member and/or have at least 3000 posts, you're just a shit-head newb.

Chris

[Nazi NecroPhile]

I don't get it either, Herc.  It's not like people are asking for a couple hundred minor offenders to be banned - it's just one or two guys; and if regal isn't ban worthy when nearly every single post he makes breaks the rules, who is?

I also agree about the attitude towards newbies who are actually coming here and trying to just have conversations about Turbo shit.  Some newb just started a thread asking what people would do if they were in NEC's shoes during the console wars, and the first reply was someone telling him/her to use the search function.  There are just better ways to handle shit.  Just reply to the post if you're interested in the discussion, and then say "hey, if you want to read more on this topic, you can use the search function to dig up some old threads where this was discussed a while back".  If you're only going to reply to tell him to use the search function, then maybe it's better not to reply at all.

Uh, try reading my response again.  I did say what I thought would've helped the most - I didn't just say 'use search'.

[CGQuarterly]

I don't get it either, Herc.  It's not like people are asking for a couple hundred minor offenders to be banned - it's just one or two guys; and if regal isn't ban worthy when nearly every single post he makes breaks the rules, who is?

I also agree about the attitude towards newbies who are actually coming here and trying to just have conversations about Turbo shit.  Some newb just started a thread asking what people would do if they were in NEC's shoes during the console wars, and the first reply was someone telling him/her to use the search function.  There are just better ways to handle shit.  Just reply to the post if you're interested in the discussion, and then say "hey, if you want to read more on this topic, you can use the search function to dig up some old threads where this was discussed a while back".  If you're only going to reply to tell him to use the search function, then maybe it's better not to reply at all.

Uh, try reading my response again.  I did say what I thought would've helped the most - I didn't just say 'use search'.

Alright, well that's my bad then.  I was just going from memory, and didn't remember it being you.  Apologies.

Chris

[HercTNT]

I don't get it either, Herc.  It's not like people are asking for a couple hundred minor offenders to be banned - it's just one or two guys; and if regal isn't ban worthy when nearly every single post he makes breaks the rules, who is?

I also agree about the attitude towards newbies who are actually coming here and trying to just have conversations about Turbo shit.  Some newb just started a thread asking what people would do if they were in NEC's shoes during the console wars, and the first reply was someone telling him/her to use the search function.  There are just better ways to handle shit.  Just reply to the post if you're interested in the discussion, and then say "hey, if you want to read more on this topic, you can use the search function to dig up some old threads where this was discussed a while back".  If you're only going to reply to tell him to use the search function, then maybe it's better not to reply at all.

Uh, try reading my response again.  I did say what I thought would've helped the most - I didn't just say 'use search'.

Alright, well that's my bad then.  I was just going from memory, and didn't remember it being you.  Apologies.

Chris

Yea, bad example, but i do get what you and keranu are getting at. And it has been discussed on numerous occasions that noobs should not be jumped. there seems to be a wide opinion (there always is) on what is considered behavior that deserves setting people straight, and whats appropriate to say to them. Thats when a mod needs to step in. In a case like this people are so divided only a mod can settle it instead of deferring the responsibility to the community.

[Drakon]

Uhm.  I refuse to post on the neo-geo.com forum, this place is 100x better.  Honestly man this's one of the best forums I've found that's really popular.

[CGQuarterly]

If someone shows up here and just wants to know what their Turbo games are worth, or wants to fill in some holes in their collection, then the best course of action is just to ignore them, not attack them.  They may still join the community, or they may leave.  But just because someone comes here and right off the bat posts a want list, that doesn't automatically mean that it's the only reason that they're here.  Telling a newb that we won't sell to them or allow them in our raffles because they aren't part of the community is elitist, and puts a bad taste in their mouth.  If they get persistent, then just tell them that no one has the games that they're looking for at the moment.

Obviously my example above was not a good one, but the sentiment remains the same.  There are different ways to handle people. 

Chris

[Drakon]

I fully agree with jibbajabba that people shouldn't whine about some new person not using the search feature.  Maybe there should be a thread labelled "important information / faq" that's stickied that links to all this great info.  People shouldn't take out their anger on the new person not finding the right information.  People should take their anger out on the fact that the right information isn't easy enough to find.  I've made threads on my personal forum that answer all sorts of questions I used to get constantly asked.  I made sure to sticky these threads and link them to the applicable youtube videos.

[Keranu]

Anyways, agree with my philosophy or not, I really do want to see if there are any recent pedo posts by Regal. I warned him and he respectfully told me he would shut up about it... maybe there's hope for the poor sap afterall . I don't care how bad the offense is, anyone deserves a second chance in my book.

I'd appoint more mods if I could, but sadly as Joe found out, I cannot. Until then, I shall always remain the Dan Hibiki of forum moderators!

[VestCunt]

I vote NecroPhile. Somebody should email Aaron and say "we need another moderator. These 8 people think it should be NecroPhile."

[Joe Redifer]

I've already contacted Aaron.  Now we wait.

[jlued686]

there's only so much moderators can do for the community

Pressing the "Ban" button on someone who is pretty much universally reviled (except by you, inexplicably) isn't really that complicated.

Anyways, agree with my philosophy or not, I really do want to see if there are any recent pedo posts by Regal. I warned him and he respectfully told me he would shut up about it... maybe there's hope for the poor sap afterall . I don't care how bad the offense is, anyone deserves a second chance in my book.

A second chance?! Shouldn't speaking out in favor of kiddie porn be an insta-ban? Nah, let's give those sex-offenders another chance. Great idea!

Seriously, man...

I guess I'm just pissing in the wind on this one.

I'll contact Aaron on Twitter and ask him about making NecroPhile a mod. Perhaps I'll mention the fact that in his absence, it's apparently become okay to discuss kiddie porn on his website. I'm sure he'll be thrilled...

[NightWolve]

Anyways, agree with my philosophy or not, I really do want to see if there are any recent pedo posts by Regal. I warned him and he respectfully told me he would shut up about it... maybe there's hope for the poor sap afterall . I don't care how bad the offense is, anyone deserves a second chance in my book.

I'd appoint more mods if I could, but sadly as Joe found out, I cannot. Until then, I shall always remain the Dan Hibiki of forum moderators!

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12481.msg256124#msg256124
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12481.msg256892#msg256892

The only thing that comes close was him playing a little game in the Movie thread, claiming that he was upset that the Yakuza boss character in the short Kill Bill animation was referred to as a pedophile and that he should've just been referred to as a guy that "likes 'em young." That boss gets killed by Lucy Liu's character at 11 years old with her on top of him, she having used the fact that he was a pedophile to seduce him and get the chance to kill him for killing her parents... So, was he simply trolling, cause he certainly got my attention, or is he just that fucking stupid misjudging an 11 year old girl as a "young woman???" And this is a game he may have played after his whole attention-whore thread about the police having raided his home for pedo/underage images and/or pornography, etc...

Note, I used to share your view on him, there was a certain charm, a certain level of entertainment, but I can't stand him lately. I exchanged messages with him privately cause he was pissing me off which factors into it, as well as him trying to find ways to defend Xray, neutralize any outrage about it and disparage the work that I and others did as mere "witchhunting" even though it was all 100% factual. In short, he makes me sick.

[BigusSchmuck]

Anyways, agree with my philosophy or not, I really do want to see if there are any recent pedo posts by Regal. I warned him and he respectfully told me he would shut up about it... maybe there's hope for the poor sap afterall . I don't care how bad the offense is, anyone deserves a second chance in my book.

I'd appoint more mods if I could, but sadly as Joe found out, I cannot. Until then, I shall always remain the Dan Hibiki of forum moderators!

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12481.msg256124#msg256124
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12481.msg256892#msg256892

The only thing that comes close was him playing a little game in the Movie thread, claiming that he was a upset that the Yakuza boss character in the short Kill Bill animation was referred to as a pedophile and that he should've just been referred to as a guy that "likes 'em young." That boss gets killed by Lucy Liu's character at 11 years old with her on top of him, she having used the fact that he was a pedophile to seduce him and get the chance to kill him for killing her parents... So, was he simply trolling, cause he certainly got my attention, or is he just that fucking stupid misjudging an 11 year old girl as a "young woman???" And this is a game he may have played after his whole attention-whore thread about the police having raided his home for pedo/underage images and/or pornography, etc...

Note, I used to share your view on him, there was a certain charm, a certain level of entertainment, but I can't stand him lately. I exchanged messages with him privately cause he was pissing me off which factors into it, as well as him trying to find ways to defend Xray, neutralize any outrage about it and disparage the work that I and others did as mere "witchhunting" even though it was all 100% factual. In short, he makes me sick.

[PunkCryborg]

NECROPHILE FOR MOD 2012

[sirhcman]

NecroPhile, Arkhan, and Bernie would all make for great moderators here.. They all get my vote

[Joe Redifer]

Ah fuck it.  I just banned RegalSin.  At least the Regal Sin wiki will get to be updated with another place he's been banned from.

[roflmao]

Thank you.

[PunkCryborg]

Thanks Joe!

[jlued686]

Oh holy shit...THANK YOU!

[NightWolve]

Hahahahaha! I didn't think that would happen! Here's a little PM history between the two of us.

In defending Xray, he complained that we were looking up his history, so on that note, I sent one PM of many like this:

Subject: How come you've been banned so many times?

http://history.sydlexia.com/index.php?title=RegalSin

This is why you don't like people being able to find your history, right??? Even there they say you might be a pedophile and that was before you said the police raided your home! So you're a racist pedophile, right ??? You've been banned in maybe over 20 forums ???

SydLexia.com - Made remarks indicating that he was anti-semitic and enjoyed pedophilia.
Senntient - Apparently posted pornography in a thread.

So yeah, you're a pedophile ??? Why are you so hated everywhere ?

The Regal response was:

I take pride in being banned from the league of 20,000 forums, and or forms. Great read my shist, it is a free web, you could even rant on that too. Either way get you behind back to the ancient land of Ys already, this is my domain, don't you have a windows 8 game to play or something. This is just getting too, old and your past your expiration date. I also love the way you responded and then responded that you missed my response, that proves how much sight you have. Yet you keep coming back for more. I live in the east coast, where I can eat all the raw meat I can, their are plenty of Elizabeth's to shebang, and the place is looking quite yello

[HercTNT]

Ah fuck it.  I just banned Regal Sin.  At least the Regal Sin wiki will get to be updated with another place he's been banned from.

This is no small thing you have done here. Regal's constant spamming and polluting of damn near every topic in these forums was enough to atleast give him a breather. Thanks.