I Wish Mods Here Were More Militant

[Nazi NecroPhile]

This forum has gone through this same issue before, where many members spoke up about the lack of active moderators.... I believe Keranu was flying solo at that time. That was when Aaron added Joe and Nat to the moderator crew, giving us three mods, and rules were added to each section. While we've gained many great new members since, we've also lost some. People come and go regardless. In my opinion, having Joe and Nat added to the staff has helped get threads moved to appropriate boards faster, and that type of stuff makes the boards better, but having people banned more efficiently I could care less about.

You're obviously out of the loop: Nat is busy with real life and hasn't been here for quite some time, Joe isn't one to actively read the forums and take care of housekeeping duties (moving threads, merging duplicates, etc.), and Keranu is as useless as ever.  Outside of Joe doing an admirable job of approving new members in a timely manner, we don't have mods here.

I'm too hot and too tired to say much about the rest of your bullshit arguments, other than to say that one's right to liberty deserves to be limited when they start impinging on the liberty of others.  Sure we could've just ignored the problem*, but we shouldn't have to sift through line after line of bullshit.

* - As an extreme example, would you advocate turning a blind eye to a neighbor that's beating his wife and kids?  You wouldn't want to impede on his right to do what he enjoys, so a letter in his mailbox asking him to take it down a notch (no bruises!) or to at least be a little more quiet so it's easier for you to ignore them would suffice, right?

[jlued686]

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This is why you should be a moderator.

[Gogan]

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This is why you should be a moderator.

Why hasn't that happened yet?

[jlued686]

From what I understand, none of the current "active" moderators have the ability to create new moderators.

[Keranu]

...and Keranu is as useless as ever.

Hey now, that's not true! I think I move more threads and handle simple requests around here more than the other mods! Minute things, but not useless!

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Hey now, that's not true! I think I move more threads and handle simple requests around here more than the other mods! Minute things, but not useless!

I stand corrected; I didn't think anyone was bothering with that stuff any more.

[tggodfrey]

In order to create Moderators (enabling rights) you must have administrative rights.

[Gogan]

I get that. I'm wondering why no one has gotten ahold of Aaron to actually make it happen. And if someone has, why hasnt he acted on it? Can't say the site couldn't use someone like NecroPhile moderating.

 Sure he doesn't care about his own site, but have enough respect for everyone else here that want changes.

[jlued686]

I tried contacting him on Twitter. Even linked to this thread. No response.

[HercTNT]

Rag, you really need to do your homework before you start ranting. Its all well thought and nicely written but I have an issue with your logic. When I said the community has spoken no where did I suggest that I speak for the community. If you read the thread and multiple others dealing with regal, you will find that a large part of the active community has been speaking about and wanting his removal. Thus the community has spoken on many occasions, and thats what I pointed out.  I'm sorry you don't like the fact that a few people commented on my statement, but I don't speak for them nor do I need to convince them of anything. They already wanted xray and regal gone which is why they agreed with me, and are currently disagreeing with you now. Don't put words in my mouth, or assume anything unless you know what your talking about. That being said, the topic i discussed with you was about two forum members behaving badly and getting delt with. Not this past/present geo-political rant your turning it into now.

[CGQuarterly]

Rag, you just showed back up after a long absence.  You weren't actually here for the xray incident, nor did you suffer through Regal crop-dusting the forums on a daily basis with his unique brand of insanity.  You're simply showing up after the fact and reading this thread, which was created as a direct result of xray and Regal, and are now judging us for what you perceive as our willingness to give up our "liberties" in order to have a quieter and more civil forum.

My comment about moderators "not giving a shit" was referring to Joe, who basically admitted that he didn't give a shit.  Of course, you would know that if you regularly read the forums instead of just wandering in here and jumping up on a soap box for some Monday morning quarterbacking.

And while I'm at it, fuck the Germans.  Fuck the Japanese, too.  You go listen to a Bataan death march survivor speak (as I did) and watch a grown fucking man and a World War II hero reduced to fucking tears 60 years later talking about what he went through seeing his friends die by his side in Japanese death camps, to say nothing of what they did to the Chinese, and see how bad you still feel about the fact that we firebombed the fuck out of those assholes.  Fucking EVERYTHING that we did to the Germans and the Japanese in WWII was brought on by themselves.  I have absolutely ZERO problem with it.  We sat out that war for a good long time, and once we entered it because THEY started shit, we (along with our allies) fucking finished it.  And that being said, fuck anyone who thinks that Nazi symbolism looks cool.  You want to make money making plastic SA signs?  I hope the state police shows up at your house and drags you off to a death camp.  Then we'll see how cool you think a swastika looks.

Is it fucked up that innocent people get killed due to choices that they didn't make?  Fuck yeah, it is.  But guess what?  We didn't herd ~12 million people into gas chambers and invade our neighbor countries for the fuck of it.  We didn't murder our entire middle class because they were too educated and might call us on our bullshit.  We didn't do whatever you call what the fucked up Japanese were doing over there, and we certainly didn't sail over to Japan and attack their fleet while we were in a state of peace with them. We also didn't fucking fly two planeloads of innocent civilians into two buildings full of more innocent civilians.  Are we perfect?  Fuck no.  But we don't deal well with barbarism, and that's the common denominator among almost every enemy that we've ever had.

Chris

[HercTNT]

Sorry jibba, forgot to remove my reference as well. Fixed now.

[CGQuarterly]

Some fucked up shit.

Jibba, I know this is fighting street and all but this is way out of line.  I can see your worked up over his comments, but if your gonna attack him, leave his family out of it.

I don't mean it literally.  I'm just saying, he admires and profits from the symbolism used by people who did exactly that.  Maybe if he walked a mile in their victims' shoes, he'd be singing a different tune.

Chris

EDIT:  I fixed my original post for you, Herc.  Sorry, I was in a bit of a bad mood earlier.

[HercTNT]

No worries, the wording just needed some work.

[Joe Redifer]

Wow a whole buncha new pages. No way I'm reading all that, but I definitely see some talk about Nazis and Jews and genocide and whatnot. If any of you are comparing ANY of that shit to forum operations, then wow. Just wow.

[NightWolve]

I wanted to say thanks to Sadler and Jibbajaba for conveying my thoughts for the most part when someone tries these lacking-in-context, moral equivalency games/comparisons (e.g. The US killed innocent people, the Nazis killed innocent people, so, um, therefore the US is no better or worse than the Nazis in a sense, etc.)...

and I really liked his comparison to the mass killing committed by the U.S. in WWII when it illegally firebombed civilian targets in Germany and Japan, (not to mention the atomic bombings of two Japanese cities).

I do happen to find it peculiar, selective to use "illegally" in this case. I don't think we ran around saying, "Hey, did you hear, the Japanese illegally bombed Pearl Harbor!!! Those Jap bastards!!!!", or, "The Nazis illegally sent millions of Jews to their deaths!", or how about, ""Osama set a plan into motion where terrorists illegally hijacked commercial airplanes and illegally used them as missiles to fly them into buildings, both civilian and governmental!!! Osama, you damn bastard! Follow the damn international legal code next time you wanna engage in warfare!!!", did we ?? That'd be rather kinda redundant, silly to do that, wouldn't it ?? We "illegally" dropped two nuclear bombs on Japan to end the war... OK, but the question of far more import or relevance is, was it morally justifiable at the time given the circumstances ??? Were all other possible options exhausted ?? Was it purely as a last resort ?

Mind you, I don't wanna sound like "all legal codes be damned" in a time of warfare by making this point the way that I did, but this WAS WORLD WAR II, and all of our legal codes are not a suicide pact if it means an unbearable body count of our soldiers and a possible loss of the War of all wars, and hence a possible complete end of our way of life... This was a fighting warrior culture that was out of control in the region, that had even pioneered suicide bombing (kamikaze), planes being flown into ships, I mean, Osama Bin Laden wasn't exactly original when it comes to the 9/11 plot... Anyhow, ANY killing of innocent civilians (AKA collateral damage) in a war is "illegal", but that cannot be prevented from happening in a state of war in general and given how dire or desperate the circumstances can become, as was the case during the WWII era, there was some level of moral justification to end the war and prevent further deaths by using the nuclear option or what you're referring to so that the people would rise up against their governments that had brought this death upon them, for unjust, immoral wars of conquest, not of defense, etc. All of which helped to expedite the surrenders, etc. Yesss, sounds very much like a dirty, immoral tactic, but it's a reflection of the time and possibly how dire it was thought the situation was. Easy to Monday morning quarterback this now...

Also, ragtime, on the main subject, the thing is, you're sounding the alarm as if we might be somehow headed for crushing over-regulation/moderation of this forum at a point when we have practically ZERO regulation/moderation, as in anarchy, which is what inspired the creation of this thread in the first place... It wasn't a situation where the moderation here was so-so, sometimes too much, sometimes too little, it's a situation where aside from RegalSin being showed the exit, there's been nothing... I assume I'll get caught up in some of that potential moderation myself, but I'm cognizant of people's rationale why they prefer more positive, less negative, less "spam" in the general forum area. I'm not keen on dedicating a thread back in here every time a conflict arises elsewhere is the thing, but I will admit it is a good idea in principle. Xray for example, that was entirely morally justifiable to engage in all threads, most especially his sales threads to deny him from profiting from our members as much as possible. But, that's an easy case to make...

Wow a whole buncha new pages. No way I'm reading all that, but I definitely see some talk about Nazis and Jews and genocide and whatnot. If any of you are comparing ANY of that shit to forum operations, then wow. Just wow.

No worries, that wasn't what was happening, Joe. Xray had made a kind of comparison between the Nazis versus the US (something like that) to give his ass some moral cover (among the other things he tried) and ragtime brought that issue up which then resulted in the taking of the political tangent that we now see before us...

[Drakon]

The US people have hair, nazis have hair, ZOMFG THEY'RE JUST AS BAD!!!!

[Emerald Rocker]

After reading through this thread, I think it's clear that all moderators need to step down.

[Mathius]

After reading through this thread, I think it's clear that all moderators need to step down.

I was under the impression that you wanted the current mods gone ages ago. 

[OldRover]

After reading through this thread, I think it's clear that all moderators need to step down.

No one moderates this particular forum though... it just kind of moderates itself.

[M1Savage]

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[NightWolve]

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Hey, nice one! If I had admin powers here, I would add it to the smileys list.

[Joe Redifer]

You'd need Admin powers and FTP access unless the board has a function that allows smiley uploads from admins without direct FTP access (vBulletin does).

[NightWolve]

It should - The latest 2.xxx version of SMF which I use has an 'Upload New Smiley' feature, so simple as can be, but I'm not sure Aaron's 1.xxx version does (most likely). But anyway, in all seriousness, somebody should talk to Aaron to ask if he can give a trusted, active, long-time veteran some admin powers so that we can drop easy requests that can get handled. That person can handle moderator appointment as well. But I guess he never found someone to ever trust like that, eh?

[Joe Redifer]

He does not respond. It's almost useless asking.

[rag-time4]

This forum has gone through this same issue before, where many members spoke up about the lack of active moderators.... I believe Keranu was flying solo at that time. That was when Aaron added Joe and Nat to the moderator crew, giving us three mods, and rules were added to each section. While we've gained many great new members since, we've also lost some. People come and go regardless. In my opinion, having Joe and Nat added to the staff has helped get threads moved to appropriate boards faster, and that type of stuff makes the boards better, but having people banned more efficiently I could care less about.

You're obviously out of the loop: Nat is busy with real life and hasn't been here for quite some time, Joe isn't one to actively read the forums and take care of housekeeping duties (moving threads, merging duplicates, etc.), and Keranu is as useless as ever.  Outside of Joe doing an admirable job of approving new members in a timely manner, we don't have mods here.

I'm too hot and too tired to say much about the rest of your bullshit arguments, other than to say that one's right to liberty deserves to be limited when they start impinging on the liberty of others.  Sure we could've just ignored the problem*, but we shouldn't have to sift through line after line of bullshit.

* - As an extreme example, would you advocate turning a blind eye to a neighbor that's beating his wife and kids?  You wouldn't want to impede on his right to do what he enjoys, so a letter in his mailbox asking him to take it down a notch (no bruises!) or to at least be a little more quiet so it's easier for you to ignore them would suffice, right?

Good job, starting off with a personal attack that I'm out of the loop, as if my being gone has anything to do with the truth of my argument. I read the xray thread, and as much as I am against racism, I am also against pogroms and witch hunts. In US history, groups of racists would get together and form up a mob, and lynch people they didnt like. It seems we are willing to get rid of the racism, but we still see value in their means.

I agree, that the limit of liberty is impinging on the liberty of others. This is a discussion forum. Saying weird things in no way impinges on anyone's liberty. Saying wrong things on a forum also in no way impinges on anyones liberty. Anyone else can step up and shoot them down.

Yes, if I saw a neighbor beating his wife and kids, I would do/say something, possibly calling police etc. But no violence is going on here... this is a discussion forum.

As far as the whole political blowout in this thread, several guys are getting mad. No problem with that at all, but I would like to state my position on xray clearly. As prof argued, xray may have been trying to cover for himself for a last few sales, before departing on his own accord. Problem solved, no need to ban, no need for militant mods.

In regals case, I havent been around lately sure, but I ve read enough of regals posts to know that while they are often very roughly written. Hes always been unafraid to express his political thoughts... If hes so far off topic that his posts are consistently annoying, how has he taken away your right to click ignore?

agree that we do indeed agree to the rules when we join. My issue is that we can still enforce the rules while emphasizing liberty. We can do this with a more relaxed approach to moderating. Far from zero consequence, being relaxed in moderating allows for more open criticism / questioning / attack of members, so it can be even more important to have a strong sense of decorum with how you treat others, since no holds will be barred in how others respond to you.

Honestly, I don't know what your point is. Nobody is suggesting we turn these forums into a nanny state, so there's no need to get all Tea Party on the subject. The whole reason I started this thread, and the whole reason it took on 12 pages, is because forum members - who have been here contributing for years - were tired of people like RegalSin carpet-bombing this place with absolute bullshit for months with zero consequence other than, "Well, if he mentions kid-fucking again maybe I'll ban him."

This isn't a first amendment issue that requires a shallow free speech debate. This is about once in a while taking out somebody who consistently pisses on everyone's good time. The people who were banned had ZERO interest in contributing here. They were here solely to troll, annoy people, and disrupt conversations. That should be "protected"? Horse shit.

My point is, I think your call for more militant mods is in fact a call for a nanny state. You seem to want to have a mod that you can turn to when you feel offended. I say we'd all be better off if we took responsibility for our own feelings and called people out when they offend us.

Regal was carpet bombing you say? Why not ignore or skip if the first line or two dont catch you? Why resort to banning? Regal did indeed seem genuinely interested in the PCE, and xray may have been as well since he seemed to show up here with a turbo-related project... After his (deserved) reception, xray lost interest.

A free speech debate is never shallow for someone with a deep commitment to it as a principle and way of life. I agree this isnt a 1st amendment issue, since were not dealing with government. But I do think it is a free speech debate that gets to the core issue of how we should handle free speech on this forum. I'm for building a community where its near impossible to get banned. I think liberty works better.

It has NOTHING to do with me being "offended". I don't get offended. I don't have time for that bullshit. 19 people were ignoring RegalSin. Some people said they came to the forum less because of him. And I'm sure Aaron (the owner of this site) would've been less than pleased to know that a dude who espoused kiddie porn was hanging out on his site.

I think you're letting your political/societal views confuse the fact that this is a fucking videogame forum! This isn't a bunch of guys wanting to be coddled by babysitters so their precious sensibilities can be protected. It's simply a group of people getting together saying, "This person is a fucking worthless asshole. Let's chuck him out of here." If a group of people were hanging out together, say at a weekly poker party, and one of them kept interjecting with asinine bullshit - including spouting racist bullshit and kiddie porn propaganda - you wouldn't be like, "Let's keep hanging out with Jim. Sure, he's a fucking psycho and annoys the shit out of us, but it's his right to do so." No. You'd say, "Jim, get the fuck out of my house."

For God's sake, man. This isn't about "liberty". As many have said before, being a part of this forum isn't a "right". Nowhere in the constitution does it say, "As an American, you are guaranteed access to the pcengine-fx.com forum community."

Plus, we've got casinos now, so that all worked out.

This made me laugh.

Your analogy of a poker party at your house is off, a poker party at a local pizza parlor would be more accurate. But not just any pizza parlor, its the only pizza parlor in the world that has pizzas in the shape of pce. Its also a self serve pizza parlor, the owner is nowhere to be found, the staff is playing pce, yet ingredients for great pizza are always there, and the root beer never runs out.

Lets say your having pizza with your buddies, and a noisy, stinky homeless guy walks in. This guy likes pce shaped pizza and root beer too, but he keeps going on about how people are morons and the world is coming to an end... What to do? If you click <ignore> the noise and stench go away. You can try to take the staff away from playing pce and get them to throw the bum outside, then remain vigilant should he attempt to re enter. Or maybe you can shoot him in the head, since you and your buddies agree hes a terrible annoyance.

What if someone like me walks in.... I love pce shaped pizza and root beer too. But i dont have much sense of smell. The bums stink doesnt really bother me, and i tend to share his bleak outlook, though i dont usually go on and on about it. In the midst of some things i couldnt comprehend, he makes a remark comparing the art in a pce game to surrealism, which makes me motivated to check out the game again... But before he mentions the name of the game, hes grabbed by an angry mob and thrown out.

I do understand that regal made some comments regarding pedophilia that offended many... Keranu says he gave regal a warning and saw improvement... Why was that not enough?

[NightWolve]

I do understand that regal made some comments regarding pedophilia that offended many... Keranu says he gave regal a warning and saw improvement... Why was that not enough?

Did you miss the thread where he revealed that the police had raided his residence which either would've been due to pedo images and/or porn and took his computer/harddrives ?? Though he never explained how he still had Internet or how he was still able to post here (another PC perhaps or bullshit drama story, fuck if I know anymore)... At one point, he was saying his life is over and for us to just delete everything, his account, posts, etc... Then he deleted the original post by editing it out in the thread and eventually, over time, he just tried to pretend like it never happened. I tried to figure out if he was bullshitting or not, but it's hard to make sense of the guy...

Yes, Keranu warned him about it in the past, but he did it again in a round about way, something I pointed out, and Joe saw it and decided to show him the door for a while. It was unexpected, really.

EDIT: I looked for the thread in question, but hmmm, I realize that was the other thread that he had Keranu delete for him, in addition to having edited out the contents of each of his posts prior to doing so. Thus, the evidence was fully deleted in that one. Well, there is only this now:

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=12998.0

They took sex, and turned it into a crime. A crime of fear, that is built on hate, and has nothing to do with religion at all.

So yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes they came into my home for girlie images.
They showed me pictures of, probably the most famous AV model that ever graced the planet.

All of this is the fault, because we men have ignored what these crazy kugars, have been doing to our society, for years. They are trying to say, stop chasing virgins. They are stupid, and you will just make them peg-nated, and not even take care of the kid. Back then things, were normal. The only reason why nobody stops them, because everybody believes in god. That is why stuff like this does not happen in the rising sun.

Anyway, talk to Joe if you long for RegalSin's return and for a further explanation, though I suspect in light of all this, some will begin to long for you to resume your absence here in search of "truth" elsewhere... ;) If I didn't know any better, I think the pedofiend is seemingly suggesting that if less people believed in God, pedo stuff (girlie images) would be more acceptable the way that it is in The Land of the Rising Sun and he probably wouldn't have had his residence raided by law enforcement as well given the context of what inspired the creation of the thread... He's blaming older women (referred to as cougars) for his woes who foster negative opinions of pedo stuff, and that we men don't stop them because we believe in God... I'm trying to translate from his moon language here given some context and what's actually written, and I think that is what I'm getting out of that last paragraph. Heh.

[VestCunt]

If you click <ignore> the noise and stench go away.

OK, here's the problem with the "ignore" button when it comes to people like Regal, Xray, and Canada:

Talking about pedophilia and defending Nazis and stereotyping jews and blacks and calling people "fag" isn't just speech, it's violence. A minister where I work recently said something like "the seed of violence lies not in the clenched first, but in the demeaning word and the denigrating insult." Our thoughts become our words and our words become our deeds. Violence doesn't randomly materialize because it's dark outside or a neighborhood is poor; there's a long chain of negativity, lies, stereotypes, blame, propaganda, and justification behind it. Humans aren't really capable of harming each other without first dehumanizing their opponents.

Don't get me wrong, there's a difference between talking about things and physically attacking people. I'm a free speech junkie and I don't think we should stop white-power assholes from having their stupid rallies or talking about whatever they want on their own forums, BUT, silence carries affirmation and when you give racist/sexist/homophobic pieces of shit a platform to spread their lies, people end up getting hurt.

This forum has rules that differentiate it from places like Stormfront. We might as well enforce them. I wouldn't be here if this place tolerated the kind of shit Regal and Xray talk about.

I do understand that regal made some comments regarding pedophilia that offended many... Keranu says he gave regal a warning and saw improvement... Why was that not enough?

It wasn't a simple matter of one offense followed by a warning. Regal's first pedo post was apparently incredibly offensive and/or downright criminal. It majorly freaked out everyone who saw it, which was probably a half dozen people. The problem was, Regal deleted it almost immediately. A huge discussion exploded and a lot of people were calling for an immediate ban. At this point, I was one of the only members defending Regal, reasoning that he should get one get-out-of-jail-free card since the evidence was gone and the details were vague. Unfortunately, none of the mods noticed the huge thread and nothing was done about it.

Even without a formal warning, the community reaction against Regal should have been enough to stop any rational person from ever even typing the word "children" on this forum again. But it didn't. Regal continued to talk about his legal problems and say vague, creepy things about sex and kids. Eventually, he explicitly stated that it's legal to have sex with a minor if you have their consent. That was enough for me and I PM'ed Keranu and told him to do something. Keranu, totally oblivious to recent events, was still a Regalsin fan from his early days as a benign, off-beat poster. Not finding much pedo evidence in Regal's heavily-edited posts, he let him off with a warning.

Long story short, Regal's creepshow wasn't a one-night-stand; it was an unchecked series of questionably-legal pedophilia discussion. As community outrage grew, Regal thrived on the attention and became more brazen. When he joined, he was a fairly harmless weirdo - amusing to some, slightly annoying to others - that posted a couple of times a week. By the time he was banned, he was derailing threads constantly and pushing the limits of legal discussion on the internet.

[jlued686]

Amen, VestCunt.

Ugh...this is fucking exhausting. Rag-Time: let it go. They've been banned. TWO people have been banned. As far as I remember, they're the only people who have been banned in ages. This place is about as "wild west" as you can get for a forum. For the hundredth time: this isn't about somebody's civil liberty. You're really blowing this out of proportion, and I can't believe you're siding with the pedo on this one. It should be simple: advocate kiddie porn = get banned. What's to argue about?

Jesus...

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Good job, starting off with a personal attack that I'm out of the loop, as if my being gone has anything to do with the truth of my argument.

My point was that you said Nat and Joe were great additions to the ranks of moderators and are doing a great job, but the reality is that Nat isn't here at all and Joe is less active than he once was.  If you weren't out of the loop, you'd know that we're essentially down to one (maybe 1.5) mods.  That's the truth, you stupid shit.

I read the xray thread, and as much as I am against racism, I am also against pogroms and witch hunts. In US history, groups of racists would get together and form up a mob, and lynch people they didnt like. It seems we are willing to get rid of the racism, but we still see value in their means.

First you say we don't need moderators because members can ferret out the losers and send 'em packing without help, but now you're saying that that shouldn't happen.  Make up your fucking mind.

I agree, that the limit of liberty is impinging on the liberty of others. This is a discussion forum. Saying weird things in no way impinges on anyone's liberty. Saying wrong things on a forum also in no way impinges on anyones liberty. Anyone else can step up and shoot them down.

It impinges on my right to not have every discussion derailed with ignorant, trolling bullshit.  As you say, this is a discussion forum, so the most important rule to enforce should probably be one that allows for... oh, I don't know... discussion?  And don't bother saying that regal just wanted to join the discussion, because he'd rarely ever react directly to any responses to his thread crapping.

Yes, if I saw a neighbor beating his wife and kids, I would do/say something, possibly calling police etc. But no violence is going on here... this is a discussion forum.

So you advocate zero rules here and everything goes, including porn and posting roms and isos?  There's never any real violence here - it's all just words, so fuck yeah!  LIBERTY FOR EVERYONE!!!!  

In regals case, I havent been around lately sure, but I ve read enough of regals posts to know that while they are often very roughly written. Hes always been unafraid to express his political thoughts... If hes so far off topic that his posts are consistently annoying, how has he taken away your right to click ignore?

Why should we have to, especially when it did little good when his rantings were inevitably quoted by other members?  You're advocating that I should be forced to modify my behavior to accommodate someone that refused to follow a few simple rules and yet you claim to be a champion of liberty?!?

Sheesh, you're exhausting.  It's like talking to a brick wall.... a brick wall that rides the short bus.

[OldRover]

It should be simple: advocate kiddie porn = get banned. What's to argue about?

Except... this is RegalSin we're talking about. He's not a pedo, and the things he says are usually made of bullshit. He's a career troll; it's his mission to get banned from as many forums as possible. His reputation precedes him. He's a master of manipulation; the longer you ignore him, the more extreme he gets. He had to go to real extremes this time; that's why the pedo shit was dragged out. The fact that he had to play his trump card in order to get noticed by authority, however, is evidence that the authority on this forum is asleep at the wheel. But anyway... if you take RegalSin seriously, you're playing into his hands. I was kind of hoping that this forum would be the one to make him crack, but this forum is the one that cracked, so... oh well.

[jlued686]

We don't negotiate with terrorists. ;)

[Arkhan Asylum]

Yeah, cause allowing kiddie porn to stick around and hose Aaron legally is totally worth cracking some dipshit on the internet, lol

[Ji-L87]

...I can't understand this discussion is an actual thing. When Regal got the boot, people thanked Joe for a job well done, mission complete and a happy ending. All this other talk is like a sequel no one really wanted :s

[Emerald Rocker]

rag-time4: Electric Boogaloo

[OldRover]

Yeah, cause allowing kiddie porn to stick around and hose Aaron legally is totally worth cracking some dipshit on the internet, lol

Whatcha smokin', Willis?

[Arkhan Asylum]

Kiddie Porn + Not Removed From Site By Owner/Mods = Owner Gets Screwed

lol

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Kiddie Porn + Not Removed From Site By Owner/Mods = Owner Gets Screwed

Regal didn't post kiddie porn, he just talked about being busted for having it and about how 12 year old girls are 'women'.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Kiddie Porn + Not Removed From Site By Owner/Mods = Owner Gets Screwed

Regal didn't post kiddie porn, he just talked about being busted for having it and about how 12 year old girls are 'women'.

yes, I know, and I wouldn't be surprised if one of his next logical steps would have been to post pictures of "women" doing things, or something along those lines.

[geise]

I don't even think the guy "playing" regal is that stupid.  That would be when his ISP gets a call and they really do bust down his door.  That would also be the feds since it was posted on the internet.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I don't even think the guy "playing" regal is that stupid.  That would be when his ISP gets a call and they really do bust down his door.  That would also be the feds since it was posted on the internet.

Maybe.  Can't take any chances though.  He might go full retard.  Good riddance.

[geise]

Word!

[OldRover]

The chances of him actually posting kiddie porn was pretty much nil. That would have given everything away. If he'd actually done that, we could say that yeah, he's a pedo and no, this place has no room for such a lameass. But in the meantime, all we know is that he's just a troll who got under yer skin if you let him... and the longer it takes to ban him, the more extreme he gets. The pedo bit was about as extreme as it gets, so he'd already played his best hand. Actually posting pics wouldn't be trolling, it's be a sign of someone who's actually destructive, so it'd be over the line.

Either way, who cares... the internet is full of trolls and douchebags who have nothing better to do than to give themselves the most negative possible reputation. I'm much rather build my reputation on the positive... harder, but who cares... do what's right, bitches.

[PCEngineHell]

This thread needs moar 3DFX.

[NightWolve]

A RegalSin sighting occurred on the MagicEngine forums 2 days ago. ;) Poor fella is missing a NEC hangout, so he's evidently trying to generate activity on a pretty dead one. He dropped 7 informative posts in a day.

http://forums.magicengine.com/en/search.php?search_author=RegalSin

[Tatsujin]

I'd buy that for a dollar!

[BigusSchmuck]

A RegalSin citing occurred on the MagicEngine forums two days ago. ;) Poor fella is missing a NEC hangout, so he's evidently trying to generate activity on a pretty dead one. He dropped 7 informative posts in a day.

http://forums.magicengine.com/en/search.php?search_author=RegalSin

Wow, I forgot that I even had an account over there after about a decade. Crazy RegalSin, I guess he will never ever grow up.

[Gogan]

Crazy RegalSin, I guess he will never ever grow up.

Unfortunately, this.

[Alt-Nintega]

Seriously, there's a lot of bullshit going on here lately and it would be nice if some of the moderators were a bit more loose with the "Ban Hammer." There are at least a few people who only come here to stir up shit and act like assholes, in some sort of pathetic internet dick-wagging. Give them a temporary ban, or get 'em out for good.

Hell, if nothing else, make me a mod and let me clean house. I've been here for a good decade. Let's get nuts. I'll go Judge Dredd on these douchebags.

dude, they think every new user that signs up here is Nintega or Dave Medina. Of course they are gonna abuse all new members.

[nectarsis]

Seriously, there's a lot of bullshit going on here lately and it would be nice if some of the moderators were a bit more loose with the "Ban Hammer." There are at least a few people who only come here to stir up shit and act like assholes, in some sort of pathetic internet dick-wagging. Give them a temporary ban, or get 'em out for good.

Hell, if nothing else, make me a mod and let me clean house. I've been here for a good decade. Let's get nuts. I'll go Judge Dredd on these douchebags.

dude, they think every new user that signs up here is Nintega or Dave Medina. Of course they are gonna abuse all new members.

Funny the RARE time someone is guessed to be him (which his cover is usually blown VERY quickly) they are right a VAST majority of the time.