How come [Game X] is so expensive? The Official Thread

[CrackTiger]

To save all the new members and madboom the trouble of creating new threads with different game titles, only to have the exact same responses in each one, please post the same generic respsonses here and if you'd like to know why/when/how any particular game suddenly became "worth" so much... you'll find your answers below.

[seieienbu]

Resellers have been buying up stacks and stacks of all copies of [game X] for years to generate a shortage where they can then use their shill bidders to trick ebayers into believing that the going rate for [game x] is in the lower 5 figures before cashing in on their investment.

[bob]

Resellers have been buying up stacks and stacks of all copies of [game X] for years to generate a shortage where they can then use their shill bidders to trick ebayers into believing that the going rate for [game x] is in the lower 5 figures before cashing in on their investment.

do you think they really are "hoarding" the games?  I always questioned that philosophy.  Just because it seems like it would get pretty expensive to keep buying them, and it would take a pretty high quantity to actually make an impact on the availability.  I just assumed it was shill bidding at it's worst.  And general dick-headery always asking double what the last one sold for to drive up the impression of it being "OMG:  ONLY ONE ON EGAY:SUPER RARE AND COLLECTIBLE:YOU'RE AN ASS HOLE IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT:THINK OF WHAT YOUR FRIENDS WILL SAY AT YOUR NEXT HOLIDAY PARTY WITH THIS ON YOUR SHELF!!!!"

[majors]

Stockpiling? Hell, I'm flat out burning all the MC's I come across.

[synbiosfan]

Resellers have been buying up stacks and stacks of all copies of [game X] for years to generate a shortage where they can then use their shill bidders to trick ebayers into believing that the going rate for [game x] is in the lower 5 figures before cashing in on their investment.

That covers game x but I have the same question about game y

[geise]

Snerd collectors have invaded our turf.   It's the only logical explanation.

[BlueBMW]

Cuz... 'Merica...


And maybe France...

[synbiosfan]

Cuz... 'Merica...


And maybe France...

Donna leave out the Ca'yucks.

[Ninja16608]

Resellers have been buying up stacks and stacks of all copies of [game X] for years to generate a shortage where they can then use their shill bidders to trick ebayers into believing that the going rate for [game x] is in the lower 5 figures before cashing in on their investment.

do you think they really are "hoarding" the games?  I always questioned that philosophy.  Just because it seems like it would get pretty expensive to keep buying them, and it would take a pretty high quantity to actually make an impact on the availability.  I just assumed it was shill bidding at it's worst.  And general dick-headery always asking double what the last one sold for to drive up the impression of it being "OMG:  ONLY ONE ON EGAY:SUPER RARE AND COLLECTIBLE:YOU'RE AN ASS HOLE IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT:THINK OF WHAT YOUR FRIENDS WILL SAY AT YOUR NEXT HOLIDAY PARTY WITH THIS ON YOUR SHELF!!!!"

Second that!

[seieienbu]

I don't think anyone's sitting on a mountain of Magical Chases that they bought over the years trying to generate a shortage.  I've read of accounts of shill bidding and seen a bit of evidence so I DO think that actually exists.

A few years ago a friend of mine and myself played world of warcraft.  After we hit 60 he lost interest in the dungeons/grinding but found great fun trying to make a fortune on the auction house.  He based his strategy around what he'd learned were illegal practices in investing.  He'd generate shortages, buy all the resources that were below his prices, etc.  I'm of the opinion that if you wanted to try to to make a profit from selling old video games you should look at whatever profiteering techniques are illegal in say, stocks/bonds, and try to figure out a way to do that over ebay.

[ToyMachine78]

To save all the new members and madboom the trouble of creating new threads with different game titles, only to have the exact same responses in each one, please post the same generic respsonses here and if you'd like to know why/when/how any particular game suddenly became "worth" so much... you'll find your answers below.

.   HAHAHA! PERFECT!

[ToyMachine78]

I don't buy the hoarding philosophy. Supply and demand. There is a recent TG/Pce craze due to all of the YouTube/gameblogs featuring and hyping the system. Up goes demand. And while the overall supply remains constant, unless Baptist churches are burning the satanic fuckers, less games are on the market due to the influx of noob collectors/enthusiasts. Bam... Up goes price. On top of this EBay compounds the problem cause rich collectards sling massive dollars at r@rez which sets new price benchmarks

[ToyMachine78]

Resellers have been buying up stacks and stacks of all copies of [game X] for years to generate a shortage where they can then use their shill bidders to trick ebayers into believing that the going rate for [game x] is in the lower 5 figures before cashing in on their investment.

.  I don't think they are trying to create a shortage. There is a market opportunity for selling used games. They are running a retail business, and those need inventory. Why do you think gamestop exists? Resellers actually provide a valuable service cause they collect and provide an assortment of games in one convienent location. Not to mention they clean and test them. You are paying a premium for not having to drag your ass out of bed at 5am every Saturday to hit as many yardsales and flea markets as you can and scour craigslist adds looking for cheap games.

Ahem.... Shitstorm commence!

[Senshi]

Cuz... 'Merica...


And maybe France...

Please don't put us in the same post.

[seieienbu]

so you're the dickhead who was buying up all the ore...

I thought it was known fact that there exists at least 1 hoard of magical chaise.  I think Black Tiger or Dungeonmaster Dan mentioned that a time or few over the years.

Naw, I was perpetually broke and always borrowing money from my friend.  He showed me his account once though, he had hundreds of thousands of gold.

[BlueBMW]

Cuz... 'Merica...


And maybe France...

Please don't put us in the same post.

[PunkCryborg]

All I gotta say is this last year on this forum has been n00b "set collector" central. I usually hit unread posts on the top but I'm seriously considering just looking at the pc engine threads for now on and bypassing the TG16 part of the forum all together because this is like what half the threads have been actually like lately.

[Opethian]

All I gotta say is this last year on this forum has been n00b "set collector" central. I usually hit unread posts on the top but I'm seriously considering just looking at the pc engine threads for now on and bypassing the TG16 part of the forum all together because this is like what half the threads have been actually like lately.

I did that years ago and I am ever so grateful that there is a separate PCE section!

[synbiosfan]

All I gotta say is this last year on this forum has been n00b "set collector" central. I usually hit unread posts on the top but I'm seriously considering just looking at the pc engine threads for now on and bypassing the TG16 part of the forum all together because this is like what half the threads have been actually like lately.

I did that years ago and I am ever so grateful that there is a separate PCE section!

As a newb I picked that up pretty quick!

If noobs aren't making unnecessary threads, they're bumping ancient threads with "+1" or "Me too".

Pick your poison

[madboom0522]

Really tiger?... I sell to you at a good price and then ask a question. So you feel the need to single me out? Thanks a whole bunch......

[synbiosfan]

... anyone have a magical chaise for cheep?

Gimme a sec and I'll pluck one off the tree out back They're in season too!

[bob]

All I gotta say is this last year on this forum has been n00b "set collector" central. I usually hit unread posts on the top but I'm seriously considering just looking at the pc engine threads for now on and bypassing the TG16 part of the forum all together because this is like what half the threads have been actually like lately.

I havent even been a member long, and i have been getting pretty bummed out around here lately too.
Seems to have really gone south since the new year. At least thats what it feels to me.

[ToyMachine78]

^^ Ditto

[PunkCryborg]

Resellers actually provide a valuable service cause they collect and provide an assortment of games in one convienent location. Not to mention they clean and test them. You are paying a premium for not having to drag your ass out of bed at 5am every Saturday to hit as many yardsales and flea markets as you can and scour craigslist adds looking for cheap games.

All I gotta say to that is that flea market sellers always the dirties/nastiest carts I ever see. And it's definitely not how they get them as they are all equally nasty like in the same way from sitting outside for 3 days a week all day for months at a time. And in the end they still want the same price for it all. They are more so doing a disservice to us all by ruining so many games. I can usually spot a flea market game in a heartbeat

[bob]

There has been a lot fewer posts from the people i actually find most interesting. That contributes to me being bummed out lately.

So that, coupled with the fact that many of the current most frequent posters are people i dont really care to read.

[HailingTheThings]

So that, coupled with the fact that many of the current most frequent posters are people i dont really care to read.

*rubs your tummy*

Who's a good boy? You are, yes, you are!!!!

[ToyMachine78]

Resellers actually provide a valuable service cause they collect and provide an assortment of games in one convienent location. Not to mention they clean and test them. You are paying a premium for not having to drag your ass out of bed at 5am every Saturday to hit as many yardsales and flea markets as you can and scour craigslist adds looking for cheap games.

All I gotta say to that is that flea market sellers always the dirties/nastiest carts I ever see. And it's definitely not how they get them as they are all equally nasty like in the same way from sitting outside for 3 days a week all day for months at a time. And in the end they still want the same price for it all. They are more so doing a disservice to us all by ruining so many games. I can usually spot a flea market game in a heartbeat

You are right. Resellers that work out of flea markets have shit. I meant resellers that scour flea markets/ swapmeets for the random Joe that shows up that one weekend to sale stuff and has a few games.

[ToyMachine78]

^^ Ditto

tell me about it... I mean... just check out this post if anyone needs proof:

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=16988.msg350400#msg350400

jesus...

You're a butt! Lol

[esteban]

There has been a lot fewer posts from the people i actually find most interesting. That contributes to me being bummed out lately.

So that, coupled with the fact that many of the current most frequent posters are people i dont really care to read.

Yes, when this happens, it bums me out, too. Of course, I have been guilty of going MIA for a year at a time, so...(seeya in 2015)...

[esteban]

There has been a lot fewer posts from the people i actually find most interesting. That contributes to me being bummed out lately.

So that, coupled with the fact that many of the current most frequent posters are people i dont really care to read.

Yes, when this happens, it bums me out, too. Of course, I have been guilty of going MIA for a year at a time, so...(seeya in 2015)...

[geise]

I don't think so.  If all you whiners will start joining in the game of the week there would be some more discussion.

[PunkCryborg]

@toymachine you don't need to post 2 or 3x in a row, nobody cares about your post count

[Opethian]

I care. How else would anyone fit in without a high post count? I was lucky to inherit 1000 posts is a raffle.
Thanks Dino!

[geise]

*in to cock block your quadruple post*

[LostFlunky]

Turbo Express' will go through the roof when Enemy of the State II comes out...



The progression for eBay prices is as follows:
Day 1:  Super Star Soldier sells in an auction where 17 bidders bid the price up to $37.36...

Day 2: Seller A - a real sleazeball - lists Super Star Soldier @ $999 FREE SHIPPING!!! to phish for a sucker.

Day 3: Seller B - a wily sleazeball - sees Seller A's listing and thinks to himself, "Someone is going to be dumb enough to mistake the $999 asking price for the game's value.  He promptly lists Super Star Soldier for the BARGAIN LQQK!!! price of $499 FREE-ER SHIPPING!2X

Day 4: Excited buyer sees Seller B's listing at HALF (!) the price of Seller A's listing and pulls the trigger!  $499 HALF PRICE MUTHAFUCKA!!!!

Day 5: Super Star Soldier sells in an auction where 2 bidders bid the price up to $599...

Disclaimer: The word 'Day' as used in the above example may not represent actual days, in as much as they represent the passage of an indeterminate amount of time.

[esteban]

^best disclaimer I have read today. Awesome. 

[VestCunt]

God, this sucks! Why is Game X so expensive?!? I need it for my collection! I'll pay anything for it! But I'm going to bitch about it here first to generate sympathy so someone will hook me up with a deal... even though I've only been a member for two weeks.

Also, I'm going to inadvertently raise its value and hype even more by cross-posting desperate WTB's on six different forums and speculative hearsay regarding how many copies exist.

[VestCunt]

Turbo Express' will go through the roof when Enemy of the State II comes out...



The progression for eBay prices is as follows:
Day 1:  Super Star Soldier sells in an auction where 17 bidders bid the price up to $37.36...

Day 2: Seller A - a real sleazeball - lists Super Star Soldier @ $999 FREE SHIPPING!!! to phish for a sucker.

Day 3: Seller B - a wily sleazeball - sees Seller A's listing and thinks to himself, "Someone is going to be dumb enough to mistake the $999 asking price for the game's value.  He promptly lists Super Star Soldier for the BARGAIN LQQK!!! price of $499 FREE-ER SHIPPING!2X

Day 4: Excited buyer sees Seller B's listing at HALF (!) the price of Seller A's listing and pulls the trigger!  $499 HALF PRICE MUTHAFUCKA!!!!

Day 5: Super Star Soldier sells in an auction where 2 bidders bid the price up to $599...

Day 6: sold listings compiled by videogame.pricecharting.com, become irrefutable proof of value.

Day 7: noob cites videogame.pricecharting in the "gouging" thread to defend resellers from surly PCEFX veterans.

[tggodfrey]

Turbo Express' will go through the roof when Enemy of the State II comes out...



The progression for eBay prices is as follows:

Day 7: noob cites videogame.pricecharting in the "gouging" thread to defend resellers from surly PCEFX veterans.

Yup...... I hate this

[DildoKKKobold]

so you're the dickhead who was buying up all the ore...

I thought it was known fact that there exists at least 1 hoard of magical chaise.  I think Black Tiger or Dungeonmaster Dan mentioned that a time or few over the years.

[ToyMachine78]

@toymachine you don't need to post 2 or 3x in a row, nobody cares about your post count

. Nurr... And nobody cares about your shitty comment. Not trying to "Up" my post count. Just trying inject some intellectual content to the thread. I was responding to different posts ass!

[HailingTheThings]

Fucking shadow government always trying to raise the prices...of...Turbo...Grafx....games...???

Could be true.

[BlueBMW]

@toymachine you don't need to post 2 or 3x in a row, nobody cares about your post count

. Nurr... And nobody cares about your shitty comment. Not trying to "Up" my post count. Just trying inject some intellectual content to the thread. I was responding to different posts ass!

Sometimes its best to quote multiple people and comment on each all in one post.   Punk may be a hipster douche but hes no ass. . ;)

[ToyMachine78]

That's easy to do when you are using a conventional PC, but is not worth the aggravation when you are limited to your phone or tablet.

[bob]

That's easy to do when you are using a conventional PC, but is not worth the aggravation when you are limited to your phone or tablet.

...kind of agree with this.  it's a pain in the ass on a phone.

[BlueBMW]

It is a pain, but i can be done ;)  I probably make 80% of my posts here from my phone rather than PC.

[ToyMachine78]

It is a pain, but i can be done ;)  I probably make 80% of my posts here from my phone rather than PC.

.  Well don't get pissed at me because I don't have the patience to do it. On the other hand it is rare that I want or need to post multiple responses. I'm definitely not a post digger though lol

[PunkCryborg]

That's easy to do when you are using a conventional PC, but is not worth the aggravation when you are limited to your phone or tablet.

I use my phone most the time I'm on here including now

...kind of agree with this.  it's a pain in the ass on a phone.

you are a pain in the ass on a phone

It is a pain, but i can be done ;)  I probably make 80% of my posts here from my phone rather than PC.

Yeah just quote each one on the main screen the snip it up on the preview screen, works great

[ToyMachine78]

Same here, blue.  I just hit 'quote' on everyone I want to reply to, then scroll between the quote tags and type my responses, then hit 'preview'.  If I've botched it by typing between the wrong quote tags, I simply curse and fling my phone at the ceiling fan to ensure it is thoroughly destroyed before I go buy a new phone.  Otherwise, I click 'post'.  I find this to be the easiest way of keeping one's post count down while using a mobile device.

.  Nully.... Is this you? You and this blogger have the same sense of humor. His actual blog is the second link. Funny shit

http://m.tickld.com/x/i-wish-this-man-was-my-father-hes-hilarious

http://27bslash6.com/

[majors]

Just trying inject some intellectual content to the thread.

^Made my day! Such laugh, so smiles...thanks.