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"Why I Dislike The N64", or "What is the Deal With the N64?"

Started by vexcollects, 08/09/2014, 02:08 PM

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Medic_wheat

Quote from: guest on 10/04/2014, 01:09 PM
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 10/03/2014, 04:38 PMdoes make me wonder if there are any hidden gems or games only found on the game gear that wasn't originally a port of another game from the SM or Genesis....
Loads. It's worth getting a flash cart just for the RPGs and war sims.

I don't know how complete this lists is:

http://l-lists.com/en/lists/s0r0ug.html


It really puts into perspective why the N64 library isn't as appealing to <32-bit console fans as most other libraries.



QuoteIn fact I now strugle to think of a any PS1 games that where still sprit based......hummmm...I guess the ports of FF 3, 4, and Chrono Trigger..........
There are way too many to list. Might have more than the Saturn does.

It also depends on how strict of a definition you want to use, as even games with 2D backgrounds and sprites often incorporated polygonal elements. Same with the Saturn.
I wouldn't doubt it. 

I guess for me I was always nintendo growing up. It is only in these past two years I started to explor sega and before that Neo Geo bliss.

bartre

Quote from: HailingTheThings on 10/04/2014, 03:32 AM
Quote from: bartre on 10/04/2014, 12:54 AM*sigh*


honestly, the only real problem i have with the N64 is that the thumbstick is a pile of shit.
other than that, i genuinely love the system, even the shittacular games.
so, here's the games i'd recommend:

Donald Duck goin quackers
That game is awesome, but you you totes just play the DC ver. overall better, I'm sure you have that, yeah?
sadly, no.
i'll acknowledge that many games on my list were multiconsole, and generally better on other systems.

HailingTheThings

Quote from: bartre on 10/04/2014, 01:48 PM
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 10/04/2014, 03:32 AM
Quote from: bartre on 10/04/2014, 12:54 AM*sigh*


honestly, the only real problem i have with the N64 is that the thumbstick is a pile of shit.
other than that, i genuinely love the system, even the shittacular games.
so, here's the games i'd recommend:

Donald Duck goin quackers
That game is awesome, but you you totes just play the DC ver. overall better, I'm sure you have that, yeah?
sadly, no.
i'll acknowledge that many games on my list were multiconsole, and generally better on other systems.
Oh no, lol. Should pick it up, looks extra pretty.
IMG

Digi.k

Quote from: bartre on 10/04/2014, 12:54 AM*sigh*

honestly, the only real problem i have with the N64 is that the thumbstick is a pile of shit.
other than that, i genuinely love the system, even the shittacular games.
I wasn't a fan of that controller,  I like the system and the games I just wished it had more variety.  If only Nintendo localized Dōbutsu no Mori , I would have been a fan for life !!!

IMG

vexcollects

Quote from: Medic_wheat on 10/03/2014, 02:46 PMInfact Doom 64 looked and played the best for home console release until the more recent BFG Doom release which included Doom 1&2 for the home system (not as digital download)......although they took to many liberties on that Doom 3 port on last gen systems........Glade I still have my XBOX Doom 3 copy ...
Didn't know it included DOOM 1 & 2. That's interesting. I always head to my Atari Jag to play DOOM 1. It feels like cheating if I don't play it there. The Jag deserves some love every once and a while. However, I don't own DOOM 2 (not sure I ever played through it), and DOOM 3 carries some good memories for me, but probably sucks now. I remember the whole "monster closets" thing and the flash light really pissing me off in that game. I might pick this up as a good compilation.

Also, much agreed (which you and I seem to do often), DOOM 64 is pretty darn good. I still enjoy barreling through that game. Great atmosphere, fast paced (not like other popular N64 FPS's that will go unnamed), and great moody soundtrack. It is still able to startle me, which is great.

cr8zykuban0

if only n64 would have had some more shmups and some street fighter games, that would have been cool.  but the n64 library in my opinion has a decent variety of games

PukeSter

Doom 64 is awesome, but I used a guide to find all the secret exits and Demon Keys.

The final boss is apparently impossible to beat without the Artifact weapon. It was hard enough even with it.

Also, there was no checkpoint system or quick save option. I had to replay a 30 minute stage, 3 whole times just because of the trap in the exit room.

esadajr

N64 is not even worth the hard disk space.

I never liked Mario 64 or any of the subsequent Mario 3D games for that matter.

On the other hand the 2.5D Mario games are awesome, and Super Mario 3D world is art (I don't see how they can top it).

The N64 controller is one of the worse controllers ever made, as stated before, the selection is not that great, third party support was just not there. I wasn't surprised to see my buddies get rid of it to get the PS1.
Gaming since 1985

PukeSter

Quote from: esadajr on 10/09/2014, 02:39 PMThe N64 controller is one of the worse controllers ever made
You would probably still hate the system, but there are definitely some great alternatives to the standard pad.

I use a Superpad (Makopad) 64, which is pretty good. It also has a metal stick.

 I've also heard that the Hori Pad is amazing.

bartre

Quote from: guest on 10/09/2014, 04:34 PM
Quote from: esadajr on 10/09/2014, 02:39 PMThe N64 controller is one of the worse controllers ever made
You would probably still hate the system, but there are definitely some great alternatives to the standard pad.

I use a Superpad (Makopad) 64, which is pretty good. It also has a metal stick.

 I've also heard that the Hori Pad is amazing.
the hori pad is pretty good.
but don't expect to play any FPS on the thing.

ClodBusted

I've got both the SuperPad/Makopad and two Horis. The Superpad is decent, but the left grip is too large and has a uncomfortable edge where the flat top area begins. The stick is slightly too tall and very noisy, but has god resistance and will last forever. But if you go for one of these pads, check the stick for deadzone issues first. The menu from GoldenEye lets you spot deadzone problems easy.

The Hori Pad is good and does a good job for me on FPS games like Turok 1 and GoldenEye. The only drawback is there are four shoulder buttons, they are hard to tell apart (unlike the PS dualshock 2), and you must point your fingers at the right spots to press them, otherwise they won't register button presses.

Fidde_se

There probably are some good games out there for N64, but as it was more towards 3D and with a fuzzy way of doing that comparing to the Playstations more pixaleted sharpness the N64 usually falls behind, however... A guy here in Gothenburg got the rights from VileTim to continue the work of his RGB chip for it, as only a few Jap and US versions could be rebuilt for S-Video and the intentionally missing RGB, this on the other hand bypasses that and gives RGB from any region, model or revision.

Suddenly some of that fuzziness goes away and it becomes a little more playable.
LAB23 is the one making them.

IMG

It's time to start enjoying N64 again... GoldenEye maybe, wait Perfect Dark, maybe even Star Wars Racer and Rogue Squadron
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Nazi NecroPhile

Ultimate Forum Bully/Thief/Saboteur/Clone Warrior! BURN IN HELL NECROPHUCK!!!

Fidde_se

Quote from: guest on 10/15/2014, 03:46 PMCouldn't you find a larger pic?  :lol:
Sorry Nec =)


And corrected...
GW/GB/GBP/GBL/GBC/GBA/GBASP/GBASP2/GBM/DS/DSL/DSiXL/3DS/PM/VB/FC/NES/SNES/N64/GC/Wii/PS/PSONE/PS2/PS2S/
SMS/SMS2/GG/NOM/MD/MD2/MD3/MD1CD/SS/DC/XB/XB360/NGP/NGPC/NGPC2/WS/WSC/CSW/PCEGT/PCE/PCECG1/PCECG2/
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C64/CDi/VMU/POCKSTN/PSP/PSPCFW/FDS/VSM

o.pwuaioc

Quote from: cr8zykuban0 on 10/05/2014, 02:38 PMif only n64 would have had some more shmups and some street fighter games, that would have been cool.  but the n64 library in my opinion has a decent variety of games
Rakugakids is good, but the shmup "library" is pitiful. I tried out Dezaemon 3D, and it was entirely lackluster.

PukeSter

Quote from: guest on 10/16/2014, 01:15 PM
Quote from: cr8zykuban0 on 10/05/2014, 02:38 PMif only n64 would have had some more shmups and some street fighter games, that would have been cool.  but the n64 library in my opinion has a decent variety of games
Rakugakids is good, but the shmup "library" is pitiful. I tried out Dezaemon 3D, and it was entirely lackluster.
The shooter library is modestly better than the "fighter" library though.

N64 basically had Killer Instinct Gold (good but 2 is now on Xbox One), Rakuga Kids (decent but weird) and Smash Bros (not as good as later entries).

At least N64 has Sin and Punishment, Bangai-O, and Star Fox 64. All legendary games.

There is also an N64 Star Soldier game (it's not very good though).

o.pwuaioc

Quote from: PukeSter on 10/16/2014, 02:19 PM
Quote from: guest on 10/16/2014, 01:15 PM
Quote from: cr8zykuban0 on 10/05/2014, 02:38 PMif only n64 would have had some more shmups and some street fighter games, that would have been cool.  but the n64 library in my opinion has a decent variety of games
Rakugakids is good, but the shmup "library" is pitiful. I tried out Dezaemon 3D, and it was entirely lackluster.
The shooter library is modestly better than the "fighter" library though.

N64 basically had Killer Instinct Gold (good but 2 is now on Xbox One), Rakuga Kids (decent but weird) and Smash Bros (not as good as later entries).

At least N64 has Sin and Punishment, Bangai-O, and Star Fox 64. All legendary games.

There is also an N64 Star Soldier game (it's not very good though).
I keep forgetting that people consider them shooters. I only think of 2/2.5D shootemups, which is why I only mentioned Dezaemon. The three you mentioned are quality (though I never got into Bangai-O). And agreed about Star Soldier. That and Dezaemon are such big disappointments for me. But that's the N64 for ya.