Startling Odyssey 2 - how long?

[pixeljunkie]

I searched around and couldn't really find an answer for this. For those that have played through it, any idea of how long it took?

[Lochlan]

IIRC it took me around 20+ hours

[pixeljunkie]

IIRC it took me around 20+ hours

g'lawd! OK, good to know. So it'll take me about 6 months to finish. haha

[NecroPhile]

It's about five and a half inches long, same as any cased game. 

[technozombie]

It's about five and a half inches long, same as any cased game. 

Hmmmm I really wanted to make a bad joke out of this size stuff.

[clackattack]

its pretty good, im about 9-10 hours in and im definitely enjoying it. Ive been switching out between it and Mysterious Song

[jlued686]

We should really try to beef up the Turbo entries on this site:

www.howlongtobeat.com

Currently, there are only 11 games there. I tend to reference that site when I'm thinking of playing a game. I don't have much time to play these days, so knowing my time commitment is important.

[Lochlan]

^ A relevant link (and for the OP as well): https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=6688.msg308282#msg308282

FWIW my times for the games I've cleared have all been over what's listed in that post so YMMV.  I reference this whenever I decide to start a new PCE JRPG.

[pixeljunkie]

^ A relevant link (and for the OP as well): https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=6688.msg308282#msg308282

FWIW my times for the games I've cleared have all been over what's listed in that post so YMMV.  I reference this whenever I decide to start a new PCE JRPG.

rad

[reno5]

^ A relevant link (and for the OP as well): https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=6688.msg308282#msg308282

FWIW my times for the games I've cleared have all been over what's listed in that post so YMMV.  I reference this whenever I decide to start a new PCE JRPG.

Thanks for the link !

[pixeljunkie]

just an update on this, since nobody asked.

I am loving this game.

[esteban]

just an update on this, since nobody asked.

I am loving this game.

Awesome.

[whisper2053]

We should really try to beef up the Turbo entries on this site:

www.howlongtobeat.com

Currently, there are only 11 games there. I tend to reference that site when I'm thinking of playing a game. I don't have much time to play these days, so knowing my time commitment is important.

Check again...the PCE selection just got a lot bigger

Though I still have a lot of work ahead of me (as a 'contributor', apparently) adding in descriptions/art/etc, it's a labor of love!

[NecroPhile]

FWIW my times for the games I've cleared have all been over what's listed in that post so YMMV.

I must be mildly retarded or enjoy grinding, 'cause my times are well over those posted.

[gbapalyer]

took me 24 hours to beat and iam a faster rpg player^^ awesome game anyways.

[pixeljunkie]

I'm only about 6 hours in....I have a long way to go

[gbapalyer]

I'm only about 6 hours in....I have a long way to go

ands its worth it.

[pixeljunkie]

I'm only about 6 hours in....I have a long way to go

so....it only took me 3 years to finally beat this.

Roughly 25 hrs.

Really, really enjoyed this one. I think I am gonna' tackle something like Princess Minerva next.

[SignOfZeta]

I really like this game. It's like if Cosmic Fantasy were better.

[pixeljunkie]

I really like this game. It's like if Cosmic Fantasy were better.

hahah exactly! I really want Cosmic Fantasy to be better than it is.

[exodus]

Shame about cosmic fantasy! but it sounds like I should give this a serious shot - I just got it two months ago.

[CrackTiger]

Cosmic Fantasy 4 Chapter 2 is great. The early parts of the game have strong gaijin protection though.

[SignOfZeta]

Yeah, by the end they had really built it into something impressive. I got stuck in a village in that game, I think it was that game. I remember the cinematics being extremely good.

[NightWolve]

I'm only about 6 hours in....I have a long way to go

so....it only took me 3 years to finally beat this.

Roughly 25 hrs.

Really, really enjoyed this one. I think I am gonna' tackle something like Princess Minerva next.

Did you make much sense of Tru's machine translation ?

[pixeljunkie]

I'm only about 6 hours in....I have a long way to go

so....it only took me 3 years to finally beat this.

Roughly 25 hrs.

Really, really enjoyed this one. I think I am gonna' tackle something like Princess Minerva next.

Did you make much sense of Tru's machine translation ?

ehhhh, it wasn't great, but it was enough to keep going. The presentation in the game is what kept me hooked.

[crazydean]

I'm only about 6 hours in....I have a long way to go

so....it only took me 3 years to finally beat this.

Roughly 25 hrs.

Really, really enjoyed this one. I think I am gonna' tackle something like Princess Minerva next.

Congratulations!

[NecroPhile]

Yeah, by the end they had really built it into something impressive. I got stuck in a village in that game, I think it was that game. I remember the cinematics being extremely good.

That sounds like 4.1.  If you rush after Saya to save her from more tentacle rape, you can get stuck in the town if you don't talk to a couple hurt guys first.

[SignOfZeta]

Do you mean stuck as in game ending glitch stuck?

[NecroPhile]

Yep.  You have to talk to the two guys before you're allowed to leave town, but if you try to leave town they disappear.  If you miss them, you'll never get another chance to talk to them and never be allowed to leave.

[crazydean]

Do you mean stuck as in game ending glitch stuck?

It's not a glitch. It's protection from evil Westerners.

[SignOfZeta]

Now I don't feel so stupid. I was pretty sure I had been to every accessible square of that town and talked to everyone at least 20 times.

Do you mean stuck as in game ending glitch stuck?

It's not a glitch. It's protection from evil Westerners.

Nah, sounds more like a glitch. This kind of thing could get anyone.

Also, gaijin protection is a real thing and I doubt Telnet ever used it. They weren't in a position to want to.

[CrackTiger]

Monster Maker has a similar game ruining bug late in the game.

[SignOfZeta]

I played something from Enix that did this a long time ago, it used to be much more common on PCs.

[pixeljunkie]

Now I don't feel so stupid. I was pretty sure I had been to every accessible square of that town and talked to everyone at least 20 times.

Do you mean stuck as in game ending glitch stuck?

It's not a glitch. It's protection from evil Westerners.

Nah, sounds more like a glitch. This kind of thing could get anyone.

Also, gaijin protection is a real thing and I doubt Telnet ever used it. They weren't in a position to want to.

I want to know more about this gaijin protection? Is there like, some known games that did this. Intentionally?!


In terms of Startling Odyssey 2 - who all fought that optional boss?

[EmperorIng]

Did you make much sense of Tru's machine translation ?

ehhhh, it wasn't great, but it was enough to keep going. The presentation in the game is what kept me hooked.

From places I've read in regards to the translation work, at least a few talk up how he edited the script to make it more intelligible... But sometimes that barely felt like the case. Unless its raw form was awful, I am curious as to why Tru didn't take a second look at the script to fix up all the weird grammatical errors and ugly phrasings, outside of it being just impossible to reword things to fit into the allotted text data. Maybe I am just too ignorant of the process to speak my mind.

I feel a little slimy speaking ill of a guy's hard work (because I am grateful enough to play the game knowing what to do). Though it does make me all the more thankful for projects like Xak III, Ys IV, Zeroigar, or the upcoming Xanadu releases in which the extra effort is put into making the text engaging.

[CrackTiger]

It was probably too much work to do. He may have planned to fix things lije grammar early on, but after it became clear how much time that would take he settled for "will this be enough for someone to get through the game"?

[esteban]

It was probably too much work to do. He may have planned to fix things lije grammar early on, but after it became clear how much time that would take he settled for "will this be enough for someone to get through the game"?

Exactly. I remember the threads/chats at NightWolves's site where Tru explained his rationale...he just wanted to get it out whilst he was able to work on it.

[NightWolve]

Yeah, it's weird. The plan was for him to find a human translator after I extracted the script and gave him a copy of my translation software. I had translated inventory, magic spells, names, etc. and my software had text pointers mapped, so he could pack a text block to fit full translations, recover space that'd normally cause cropping of lines.

I didn't care about the project anymore, partly because of the 16x16 system font, it needed an expert font hacker like what elmer has done to the Xanadus. So it was once under my lead, but I transferred it to Tru, similar to how David Shadoff transferred Emerald Dragon over to me. Very similar in fact.

Tru disappeared for years, thought it was over, next thing I hear is he translated it himself, someone who knew not a lick of Japanese... NONE! He was not even a known translation hack like The XXXSEED Cock Flasher who could fake a translation with Jim Breen's WWWJDIC text glossing feature which breaks a Japanese sentence down into definitions rather than attempt a machine translation!

People are telling me it was edited well, it's passable, but I still can't believe that! Tru told me to try it as well, but never got around to it. Moreover, he said he lost my translation software and did the whole thing by hex editing the data track, so he lost the benefit I gave him like Xak III of text pointer recomputing to fit full translations in a text block!

I dunno what translation website he used either, but given that it is a machine translation, you, esteban, or I could have produced this ourselves so I've never trusted it!! You can't take short cuts without a SamIAm!

[pixeljunkie]

That's incredible. Yeah the translation didn't even feel broken really. Just rushed. Totally passable honestly, in hindsight. There were a few head scratchers in the game but like.i said it's amazing that it came from someone who didn't know Japanese!

[SignOfZeta]

I found it remanicent of NES RPGs where just trying to figure out WTF they are saying was difficult.