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BigusSchmuck

Got a good deal for a 32x at PRGE this year ($20 from Castlemania games!) and looking for some games for it. I heard that Space Harrier and Afterburner are good arcade ports, but are there any other games worthwhile on the system? I see stinkbay has Kolibri, Tempo, and Knuckles Chaotix but those look rather pricey...

crazydean

I'm sorry for your loss...

I wish I could help but I never found anything good on it.

Bloufo

#2
- Blackthorne
- Tempo
- Shadow Squadron
- Star Wars Arcade
- Virtua Racing
-Virtua Fighter
-Space Harrier
-After Burner

I would have said Chaotix, but personally not my thing. Like a stubborn dog on a leash.

Kolibri is also rated as amongst the better games for the system. But I never know wtf I'm supposed to be doing.

Arkhan Asylum

Get an everdrive and play them all that way.   

None of the games are particularly fantastic.

They're all mediocre to slightly above mediocre.   Unless you can find them for like 5$ its not worth it, and the games you want to play are Blackthorn, and Kolibri, and they are both 80$+ or some shit
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Medic_wheat


Not saying this is all there is to play/enjoy on the 32X. This is just what I have so far.

LostFlunky

Virtua Fighter is good, but, there are better ports out there (Saturn)... Mortal Kombat II is a pretty good port, but it is still MKII.  Doom is severely handicapped.  Virtua Racing is 'ok', again, there is a better port on Saturn.

I found Chaotix to be annoying.

Can't really recommend anything - I came to the conclusion I didn't need a 32X any longer several years ago and have never regretted selling it.

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: Lost Monkey on 10/27/2017, 11:47 AMVirtua Fighter is good, but, there are better ports out there (Saturn)... Mortal Kombat II is a pretty good port, but it is still MKII.  Doom is severely handicapped.  Virtua Racing is 'ok', again, there is a better port on Saturn.

I found Chaotix to be annoying.

Can't really recommend anything - I came to the conclusion I didn't need a 32X any longer several years ago and have never regretted selling it.
I got my 32x cheap with a ton of games.

I sold all the games including Kolibri

... Shove an everdrive in that bitch, play the same dumpster fire library, aw.

yeah.

Shadow Squadron was coolish.

so was WWF, but it's nothing spectacular really.   
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xcrement5x

Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 10/27/2017, 11:04 AMGet an everdrive and play them all that way.   
This is the best route starting out, then you can also try out stuff like Darxide.


Space Harrier 32X is awesome, and Kolibri is also fun.  I also like Metal Head personally.
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SignOfZeta

The only thing I ever enjoyed were the Sega ports which IIRC were very good but there are way more ways to play even better versions now so it's not that impressive in this area anymore.

Was Chaotix the first sucky Sonic game? That would be the ultimate sucky dumb thing about the 32X if that's true. :)
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Arkhan Asylum

Chaotix isn't bad it's just not a sonic really because you're playing push me pull you and shit.


Metal Head and stuff aren't that great compared to just playing Battle Corps on Sega CD

I'd say the best games to play are probably Blackthorn, Kolibri, and licking the power cord while the other ends plugged in
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CrackTiger

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 10/27/2017, 01:05 PMThe only thing I ever enjoyed were the Sega ports which IIRC were very good but there are way more ways to play even better versions now so it's not that impressive in this area anymore.

Was Chaotix the first sucky Sonic game? That would be the ultimate sucky dumb thing about the 32X if that's true. :)
There were at least six(?) Sonic-style Sonic games for SMS/GG. Chaos doesn't seem very good or Sonic-like. Sonic fans have such random taste that some praise Chaotix while hating on Sonic CD.
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sirhcman

NBA Jam Tournament Edition is a pretty good port but if you have it for PS1 or Saturn already then I wouldn't bother

TDIRunner

Someone beat me to it, but stick with the Everdrive.  Games like Kolibri, Knuckles, Tempo and Blackthorne are a lot of fun, but not worth the price.  I was lucky enough to get mine when they were still cheap, but I wouldn't pay today's prices.
Maybe, just once, someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene."

SignOfZeta

I think I'll just recommend an Everdrive. Have you seen these things!?!
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HailingTheThings

Tempo, definitely Tempo. Fun. But.... the best game on the console... Spiderman Web of Fire. Get. That. Game.
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Medic_wheat

Quote from: HailingTheThings on 10/27/2017, 07:41 PMTempo, definitely Tempo. Fun. But.... the best game on the console... Spiderman Web of Fire. Get. That. Game.
Get the most expensive game in the entire library?  From what I hear to be mediocre?  That's a joke post right?

seieienbu

I assume he's joking about Web of Fire?  Obviously there aren't a lot of games to choose from but I would say that the best ones are Afterburner, Space Harrier, Knuckles Chaotix, Tempo, and Kolibri.  You might start to notice a trend here; with so few games people will likely gravitate to the few that are pretty good.  Then you have some alright games, then some awful games. 

Shadow Squadron was kinda neat, sorta?  It reminds me of an attempt at Star Fox only worse but on 32X?  It's at least a bit of an enigma to me because I've played it a good deal but am terrible at it but I still slightly like it?  I can't exactly explain my feelings towards Shadow Squadron other than to say "It's bad but I like it anyway."

Similarly, I have a guilty pleasure for Zaxxon Motherbase.  I have odd memories of the Colecovision Zaxxon and how hard I found the game forever ago.  The 32X version is like, if you ever thought "Man, that Zaxxon almost had it; if ONLY it moved at like, 12 frames per second!" then Zaxxon Motherbase is for you.
Current want list:  Bomberman 93

BigusSchmuck

I thought about the Everdrive route, but at PRGE the one they had setup didn't seem to work very well with the rom dumps they had and kept on crashing on almost everything except for WWF and Star Wars. Great suggestions guys, I didn't think of getting one of these the past couple of years due to the price going upwards of $100 on stink bay, but when I saw it for $20 with the cables I said what the hell might as well complete the tower of power...

Medic_wheat

I think the latest everdrive works for 32X. Or it seemed to on a YouTube video I watched a year ago.

From a forum member here. Gaming Quaterly.

On a side note I thought a bare bones 32X with cables went for $20-35.

Granted I'd recommend a 3rd party power cable that allowed for powering the 32x genesis ands sega cd (based on model types).

Medic_wheat


Bloufo

Quote from: Medic_wheat on 10/27/2017, 11:27 PMGranted I'd recommend a 3rd party power cable that allowed for powering the 32x genesis and sega cd (based on model types).
Yes. You kinda need that if you're looking to power up that whole contraption. Genesis/Sega CD/32X.
Having three separate PSU's is a pain in the butt.

Arkhan Asylum

I have the Mega Everdrive, and it doesn't fucktard out on 32X games.

Sounds like bad dumps or something.
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crazydean

Quote from: guest on 10/28/2017, 02:54 AMI have the Mega Everdrive, and it doesn't fucktard out on 32X games.

Sounds like bad dumps or something.
I have the Mega Everdrive X7, no problem with 32X.

On an unrelated note, I've noticed a slightly reduced picture quality when using the 32X. Anyone else have this issue?

Also, I use three power supplies to power mine. The only one I saw that has all three is like $60. Is this the one you guys are talking about or is there a cheaper option?

Bloufo

Quote from: crazydean on 10/28/2017, 07:14 AMOn an unrelated note, I've noticed a slightly reduced picture quality when using the 32X. Anyone else have this issue?
How do you have it hooked up. Are we talking just Composite here?

QuoteAlso, I use three power supplies to power mine. The only one I saw that has all three is like $60. Is this the one you guys are talking about or is there a cheaper option?
Not sure about current stock levels, but I got mine for half that from Retro Game Supply. Shipped from France.

crazydean

Quote from: Bloufo on 10/28/2017, 07:44 AM
Quote from: crazydean on 10/28/2017, 07:14 AMOn an unrelated note, I've noticed a slightly reduced picture quality when using the 32X. Anyone else have this issue?
How do you have it hooked up. Are we talking just Composite here?
I use RGB via the same cable with just an adapter to switch between the model 1 and 32X. This way I can take it off and don't have to change out the whole cable.


QuoteNot sure about current stock levels, but I got mine for half that from Retro Game Supply. Shipped from France.
Wow. €20. That's a fair price. They're not in stock now but hopefully they will restock in the future.

ginoscope

I got a 32x as a trade recently for helping a friend repair one of his systems.  I just use an everdrive with it to try out all the games.

If you are into RGB I find that the 32x improves the video ever so slightly so that is probably the best thing I like about it.  I would highly recommend the cables from retrogamecave to avoid having so many power bricks.

BigusSchmuck

I thought about trying my luck and setting up the 32x on my Laseractive until I realized there wasn't an av out on the LA in order to do so. Would look pretty ridiculous anyway, but makes you wonder if the unit was halfway popular if Sega would've put out a device for it to work on a LA then you would have LA enhanced 32x games!

Bloufo

Quote from: ginoscope on 10/28/2017, 11:03 AMI would highly recommend the cables from retrogamecave to avoid having so many power bricks.
I see it's listed at $70 for that Sega Trio power supply. And that's excluding the shipping cost. For us international customers, they're asking $37 to ship one PSU.

Way more than some folks would like to pay. And I would agree with them.

crazydean

Quote from: ginoscope on 10/28/2017, 11:03 AMI got a 32x as a trade recently for helping a friend repair one of his systems.  I just use an everdrive with it to try out all the games.

If you are into RGB I find that the 32x improves the video ever so slightly so that is probably the best thing I like about it.  I would highly recommend the cables from retrogamecave to avoid having so many power bricks.
Hmm..weird that it actually improves your video quality.

As for that power supply. $70 is crazy. There's nothing in that PS that costs anywhere near that amount. It's just a classic case of gouging because people will pay. I'll just daisy chain an extra muti outlet. It only needs to handle about 4A or so at 10V.

GaijinD

I got my 32x for free and still feel like I overpaid. That said, the only games I have for it are Doom and Star Wars Arcade. Doom isn't the worst port, but really, there are so many other ways to play it that are better. Star Wars Arcade is decent, but it's pretty hard, though it is the only console port of a pretty obscure game. Apparently there were barely any cabinets in the US, which is odd considering that it's a Star Wars game. I thought it was a port of the '80s Atari game when I bought it.
Feel like a treasure game on a rainy day.

Medic_wheat

Quote from: GaijinD on 10/29/2017, 09:31 PMI got my 32x for free and still feel like I overpaid. That said, the only games I have for it are Doom and Star Wars Arcade. Doom isn't the worst port, but really, there are so many other ways to play it that are better. Star Wars Arcade is decent, but it's pretty hard, though it is the only console port of a pretty obscure game. Apparently there were barely any cabinets in the US, which is odd considering that it's a Star Wars game. I thought it was a port of the '80s Atari game when I bought it.
I thought Star Wars arcade also got a "bonus disk" game cube release?

Bloufo

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 10/28/2017, 11:33 AMI thought about trying my luck and setting up the 32x on my Laseractive until I realized there wasn't an av out on the LA in order to do so.
With a mod it can be done.

bob

Quote from: Medic_wheat on 10/29/2017, 11:57 PM
Quote from: GaijinD on 10/29/2017, 09:31 PMI got my 32x for free and still feel like I overpaid. That said, the only games I have for it are Doom and Star Wars Arcade. Doom isn't the worst port, but really, there are so many other ways to play it that are better. Star Wars Arcade is decent, but it's pretty hard, though it is the only console port of a pretty obscure game. Apparently there were barely any cabinets in the US, which is odd considering that it's a Star Wars game. I thought it was a port of the '80s Atari game when I bought it.
I thought Star Wars arcade also got a "bonus disk" game cube release?
yeah, its accessible on one of the rogue games.  i forget which one

xcrement5x

Quote from: crazydean on 10/28/2017, 01:02 PM
Quote from: ginoscope on 10/28/2017, 11:03 AMI got a 32x as a trade recently for helping a friend repair one of his systems.  I just use an everdrive with it to try out all the games.

If you are into RGB I find that the 32x improves the video ever so slightly so that is probably the best thing I like about it.  I would highly recommend the cables from retrogamecave to avoid having so many power bricks.
Hmm..weird that it actually improves your video quality.
The way the 32X works is it takes the stock RGB video signal from the Genesis, does an overlay on it for 32X games (if needed) and then outputs that signal through the 32X AV out.  So it works as a nice filter for regular Genesis stuff.  The composite video out of the 32X is actually really nice and gets rid of the rainbow banding on the genesis signal pretty well in my opinion. 



Quote from: Bloufo on 10/30/2017, 01:06 AM
Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 10/28/2017, 11:33 AMI thought about trying my luck and setting up the 32x on my Laseractive until I realized there wasn't an av out on the LA in order to do so.
With a mod it can be done.
Yup, you'll need some sort of custom cabling as well but it's a lot of work for 32X on the LaserActive.  I've never tested if a 32X CD game would work though, hmmm.
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blueraven

I totally forgot about the 32x. Doom sucked on it.

GaijinD

Quote from: Medic_wheat on 10/29/2017, 11:57 PMI thought Star Wars arcade also got a "bonus disk" game cube release?
Nope. That's the '80s Atari game. What got ported to 32x is an early '90s Sega Model 1 game. It's the predecessor to Star Wars Trilogy Arcade. This, not this.
Feel like a treasure game on a rainy day.

Arkhan Asylum

That Star Wars game is actually pretty fun but not fun enough to warrant a 32X alone.

You could just play Wing Commander on Sega CD.   It's a better game.


EDIT:  Thinking now, I notice the best 32x games are all the cockpit games...

Metalhead, shadow squadron, star wars...

The rest of the library is whatevery.
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xcrement5x

Metal Head is more fun when you play with the portraits as animu characters I think.  Probably just my perception though.
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DragonmasterDan

Quote from: blueraven on 10/30/2017, 04:26 PMI totally forgot about the 32x. Doom sucked on it.
The 32X itself sucked so much my mom used to have me vacuum my room with it as a teenager.
--DragonmasterDan

Arkhan Asylum

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Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 10/31/2017, 04:54 PM
Quote from: blueraven on 10/30/2017, 04:26 PMI totally forgot about the 32x. Doom sucked on it.
The 32X itself sucked so much my mom used to have me vacuum my room with it as a teenager.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

turboswimbz

Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 10/31/2017, 04:54 PM
Quote from: blueraven on 10/30/2017, 04:26 PMI totally forgot about the 32x. Doom sucked on it.
The 32X itself sucked so much my mom used to have me vacuum my room with it as a teenager.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH ZING
NW: Hey, I made it on this psycho's Enemies' List, how about that ?? ;)
BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere. You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

GohanX

Quote from: Bloufo on 10/27/2017, 11:03 AM- Blackthorne
- Tempo
- Shadow Squadron
- Star Wars Arcade
- Virtua Racing
-Virtua Fighter
-Space Harrier
-After Burner

I would have said Chaotix, but personally not my thing. Like a stubborn dog on a leash.

Kolibri is also rated as amongst the better games for the system. But I never know wtf I'm supposed to be doing.
I used to collect 32x, and I agree with all of this. I mostly just play Virtua Racing on it though, I love that game. Also, the ports of Space Harrier and Afterburner are fantastic. Probably the best you can get without emulation or paying a ton for the Saturn ones.

Mathius

I gotta say the most impressive game on the system is Shadow Squadron. I personally think it looks better than Star Fox but lacks that game's charm and atmosphere. If you enjoy Wing Commander and Colony Wars-style games you'll enjoy SS at least a little bit.

My biggest gripe with the 32X is its video output. Even if you have an S-Video modded Genesis you'll still be stuck with Sega's horrible composite output as your only option. I'll have to ask some of my friends to see what an S-vid mod would entail on the little mushroom.

DragonmasterDan

Quote from: Mathius on 11/01/2017, 08:13 PMMy biggest gripe with the 32X is its video output. Even if you have an S-Video modded Genesis you'll still be stuck with Sega's horrible composite output as your only option. I'll have to ask some of my friends to see what an S-vid mod would entail on the little mushroom.
Why not use RGB?
--DragonmasterDan

Mathius

Quote from: DragonmasterDan on 11/01/2017, 08:28 PM
Quote from: Mathius on 11/01/2017, 08:13 PMMy biggest gripe with the 32X is its video output. Even if you have an S-Video modded Genesis you'll still be stuck with Sega's horrible composite output as your only option. I'll have to ask some of my friends to see what an S-vid mod would entail on the little mushroom.
Why not use RGB?
Personally I haven't picked up a cable yet due to being poor and all. I was writing from the perspective of the average Joe who doesn't have access to a PVM.  :)

DragonmasterDan

Quote from: Mathius on 11/01/2017, 08:37 PMPersonally I haven't picked up a cable yet due to being poor and all. I was writing from the perspective of the average Joe who doesn't have access to a PVM.  :)
The average Joe could buy (when they're in stock at least) those HDRetrovision Component cables and use those too.
--DragonmasterDan

CrackTiger

An XMD3 will give you vibrant RGB based s-video from your 32X or Genesis 2/CDX and with the 32X model 1 cable adapter you can use it on model 1 Genesis and SMS (no direct audio for SMS though).
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

Bloufo

Quote from: guest on 11/01/2017, 09:42 PMAn XMD3 will give you vibrant RGB based s-video from your 32X or Genesis 2/CDX and with the 32X model 1 cable adapter you can use it on model 1 Genesis and SMS (no direct audio for SMS though).
Not easy finding one of those (XMD-3), though. I recall that was the case even quite a few years ago.

You can get audio out of the SMS with that $8 cable adapter from HD Retrovision.

BigusSchmuck

Quote from: Mathius on 11/01/2017, 08:13 PMI gotta say the most impressive game on the system is Shadow Squadron. I personally think it looks better than Star Fox but lacks that game's charm and atmosphere. If you enjoy Wing Commander and Colony Wars-style games you'll enjoy SS at least a little bit.

My biggest gripe with the 32X is its video output. Even if you have an S-Video modded Genesis you'll still be stuck with Sega's horrible composite output as your only option. I'll have to ask some of my friends to see what an S-vid mod would entail on the little mushroom.
I would definetly be interested in something like that. Would love to see the mushroom at its best. :)

Medic_wheat

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 11/02/2017, 10:06 AM
Quote from: Mathius on 11/01/2017, 08:13 PMI gotta say the most impressive game on the system is Shadow Squadron. I personally think it looks better than Star Fox but lacks that game's charm and atmosphere. If you enjoy Wing Commander and Colony Wars-style games you'll enjoy SS at least a little bit.

My biggest gripe with the 32X is its video output. Even if you have an S-Video modded Genesis you'll still be stuck with Sega's horrible composite output as your only option. I'll have to ask some of my friends to see what an S-vid mod would entail on the little mushroom.
I would definetly be interested in something like that. Would love to see the mushroom at its best. :)
Dude. Phrasing.