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Observation of Cadash on TG vs Cadash on Genesis

Started by spenoza, 03/21/2009, 12:24 PM

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CrackTiger

I always liked the Turbo Cadash music and felt that it suits the Turbo version's visual style. A few instruments may not be hi-tech, but there are many more nice FM'ish soft sounds and there are some cool combinations, in particular the first area. It does sound a lot better on real hardware than through emulation.
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guyjin

OK, so the Genesis version's music is better. I still like the TG16 version. I'd still rather play Cadash than Parasol Stars.

As far as the '4 channels' thing goes, it might make sense if it were the first or second game Taito made for the PCE - was it?

Joe Redifer

Unlikely.  Taito was fairly big on the PCE scene from what I understand.

spenoza

I though the TG could do a single FM channel if it sacrificed the first 2 channels. Would have made sense for this game.

Arkhan Asylum

Yknow I think when a game gets looked into and over analyzed too much, it loses the fun because all you do then is think of all its short comings and limitations.


Saying that, I think I'll go play some crapass atari 2600 games with farty noises and flickery graphics.  Itll be fun :)
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TurboXray

Quote from: guest on 03/26/2009, 09:13 PMI though the TG could do a single FM channel if it sacrificed the first 2 channels. Would have made sense for this game.
It's not worth the waste of a channel. Plus, it's not exactly FM like a normal FM(or PM) sound since you can't adjust the volume of the modulating channel to effect the other channel - to make that classic 'buuuaaarrrroooowwwww' sound. Instead, you have 4 levels of modulation timbre.

QuoteIt's funny how people run around singing praises of the Cadash soundtrack, I always thought it sounded like shit.
I agree. I think it sounds terrible. It's really generic sounding. Even an NES port of the tune would've had more 'oumpf' to it.

QuoteProbably for the reasons you mention here. Oddly enough, I also think Ninja Warriors sounds like shit, haha. They are both NES-par when it comes to the music, maybe slightly better at their finest shining moments. The first five or ten seconds of Cadash says it all. I always found that odd, since other Taito games like BB3 and Darius (SGX hybrid cart) have such fantastic chip music.
I looked at ninja warriors too. Same crappy sound driver. 4 channels, crappy instruments and technically port rendition. Darius on the other hand uses all 6 sound channels and has a much better quality of sound.

spenoza

I think the reason people like Cadash's music has to do with the weird tunes. Cadash has an... odd soundtrack. Even a lesser representation of it is still intriguing.

Arkhan Asylum

Some of the music coupled with the backdrops is pretty eerie and fun ..!
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Press_Run

After watching and listening, Cadash is a one of those games better off on the Turbo CD. The extra memory benefits for the outcome of better music and improved visuals to reach on par or better than the arcade standard. Look at Ys I&II, the quality of sound selection skyrocketed through the roof and part of the reason why I enjoy playing it every time.  :)

Ceti Alpha

Quote from: Press_Run on 03/28/2009, 11:58 PMAfter watching and listening, Cadash is a one of those games better off on the Turbo CD. The extra memory benefits for the outcome of better music and improved visuals to reach on par or better than the arcade standard. Look at Ys I&II, the quality of sound selection skyrocketed through the roof and part of the reason why I enjoy playing it every time.  :)
For sure. Cadash would have been a lot better on CD, but at the same time, having Cadash on a Huey allowed for basic TG owners the chance at buying an arcade classic without losing anything too substantial in the translation. For some reason I didn't buy it and instead went for something stupid, like Falcon or Silent Debuggers. I think I actually traded in Silent Debuggers for Falcon. lol  #-o I guess I can't complain too much about my buying decisions BITD - just one regrettable purchase isn't too bad, I guess. Just to think,  that I could of had NAI, Cadash, or Soldier Blade instead.

I'm just waiting for someone to translate all TG/PCE games to the Arcade Card.  :mrgreen:
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Keranu

I dunno, I like Cadash as a HuCard. Maybe if it was a longer game I'd prefer it on CD.
Quote from: TurboXray on 01/02/2014, 09:21 PMAdding PCE console specific layer on top of that, makes for an interesting challenge (no, not a reference to Ys II).
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CrackTiger

Quote from: Keranu on 03/29/2009, 04:12 AMI dunno, I like Cadash as a HuCard. Maybe if it was a longer game I'd prefer it on CD.
I wouldn't mind having an arcade perfect'ish/superior port on CD while keeping the cool HuCard version as it is.
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Duo_R

anyone give the code another shot? I have been at work all week and haven't played it yet to find out.

QuoteWhen the game ends, and you're brought to the title screen, hold I + II + Down, then press Run
Quote from: guest on 03/25/2009, 01:44 PMDid you play past the first "level"? I think it continues you at the last inn, meaning you have to have visited or moved past one. I seem to remember having trouble with the code, but then ultimately getting it to work. It's been a while, though.
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Arkhan Asylum

the continue code works I remember using it a few times once.


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