The Wii U

[Nando]

get a Wii U and a 3DS

duhrrrrrr

I've got five moufs to feed fool

[psychobear]

Better then I expected and the game pad feels comftertable to play with, my 5 year old disnt have trouble playing with it over all great system... And yes that mini mario game where you chase him is fun.. Also the luigi mansion one is is fun

[Arkhan Asylum]

http://www.gamenguide.com/articles/4211/20121120/nintendo-wii-u-day-one-update-bricks-consoles-firmware.htm


What a bunch of fucking retards.

I UNPLUG DURING BIOS UPDATE AND IT BREAK WHY IT BREAK WHAT THE HECK I HATE NINTENDODO

FHUEFHAESFUDF

[jlued686]

Playing Mario Chase in Nintendoland with my son has already made the WiiU worth the price.

How old is he?

He's 5. After I posted that message, we played the Luigi's Mansion game and a few others, along with New Super Mario Bros. U. A great time was had.

My Wii data transfer got fucked, though. I received an error message that even the Nintendo Customer Service line hadn't heard of. I still have all my VC and WiiWare games, but lost all my game saves. Not a huge deal, but still kinda annoying as there are some games I've put many hours into and now have to start over.

They're supposed to call me back with a solution, but I'm not holding my breath.

[Mathius]

Sorry about your Wii U, Ark.

The Avoidable Death of Super Mario
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/gaming/features/article_1699224.php/The-Avoidable-Death-of-Super-Mario?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_31389

This is why I am not in a big hurry to get a Wii U. I wish Nintendo would put more creativity in it's newer 2D Mario games, and I can honestly say that I am not at all excited to play the new Mario.

[Arkhan Asylum]

There's nothing wrong with my Wii U.

I was posting an article about retards who made problems with theirs.  Nothing says fail like killing the power while flashing a ROM.

anyway that article you posted made me want to punch things.

When remembering the "classic" Mario games, each one stands out because of its style, not its gameplay, which has stayed virtually the same since day one.

This is false.  First off, Mario 1 had TWO games.  We just didn't get one.  They were identical, save the levels.

Mario 2 (Which I am sure this dipshit doesn't even realize isn't really a Mario game), was wildly different because it WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE A MARIO GAME.

Mario 3 was the defining moment of the Mario series... especially because SMW was basically Mario 3 with way better graphics.

AND NEW GAMEPLAY FEATURES NOT SEEN PREVIOUSLY SUCH AS:
Yoshi and all of his mongoloid offspring colors.
Srs as fuck flying with a cape!
spin jumps
Ghost houses
climbing/punching
really annoying boss battles
saves!
Exploring secret levels as opposed to just secrets within the levels
New enemies not seen before on top of the shit you'd expect!

Imagine Super Mario Bros 3 with the same sprites as the original Super Mario Bros. It wouldn't feel the same.

No shit.  Imagine any game with different graphics.  Of course it won't feel the same.   Put fuckin Mario sprites in a Megaman game and it won't feel the same.  Durrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

It would feel like a retread of what you'd seen and done before. Sure, there would be new enemies, but the world Mario was traversing wouldn't feel new

No it wouldn't feel like a retread.  Look at the Sonic game for NES that was made by some group.   It uses Mario 3 graphics but plays like sonic.

IT LOOKS LIKE MARIO 3 THOUGH SO IT SHOULD FEEL LIKE MARIO 3, RIGHT?

wrong.  Fuck off article-writer-guy.   The world would feel new if you slapped all the Mario 1 graphics into Mario 3 and still took players for a ride into the desert, up into the clouds, and off into giant land.  

and the Mushroom Kingdom should always look and feel different with each new entry in the Mario franchise.

Says who?  Some chucklefuck on the internet?   This is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in regards to Mario.

Do they live in some fuckin Matrix bullshit where the landscape morphs every couple of years and all of the organisms on the planet morph into new shit?

No.  They don't.  The Mushroom Kingdom got defined for real in Mario 3 and should never change from that.  


New Super Mario Bros U is like Mario 3 on cocaine.    When you see Lemmy's ship and then you stomp on his face, all of the $$ spent on the Wii U is immediately worth it.

The squirrel suit rules, the new enemies that popped up are fun, the levels are challenging and fun, and above all else IT FEELS LIKE A FUCKING MARIO GAME SET IN THE MUSHROOM KINGDOM THAT WE'VE COME TO KNOW AND LOVE SINCE MARIO 3.


Fuck this guy hard, with a cactus.

Next he's going to say Hyrule needs to be completely fucking different aesthetically in every game.



I'd hate to see how this guy would fair in a game like Wizardry.

EVERY GAME HAS THE SAME WALLS THIS IS STUPID IT ALL FEELS THE SAME.


This is what happens when adults who fail at being young at heart start talking about games.    They shouldn't be allowed to talk.

[jlued686]

Yeah, that article is bullshit. Plus, IMO, NSMBU is easily the best of the NSMB series. It's really, really great. And despite the fact that it doesn't exactly break the mold set by previous NSMB games, it gives me a similar feeling to the one I had the first time I played SMB3 and SMW.

[Nando]

Sweet, my lil one's should be able to enjoy it proper then.

The Rayman game looks really GOOD. Has anyone tried it?

[Mathius]

I really do hope that the Wii U Mario is as fun as you guys are saying. I posted that article because it brings up feelings I have been having.

NSMB on the DS was an awesome return to form. The Wii incarnation kinda felt the same. The new 3DS game seems to be in the same exact style. The Wii U Mario also seems to be just an update on this theme. In the old days each new Mario game felt new. Super Mario Galaxy felt new. The Wii U Mario just seems like a rehash to me. Again, I hope I am wrong.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Well you have to remember, each new Mario game back in the day was coming along with drastic hardware upgrades (Mappers on the NES, all of the SNES hardware in general... etc).    Now that we're beyond that, we can just enjoy kickass Mario games.

It's funny, noone was this flustered about MegaMan being basically the same game since the first one...

[Nando]

So does anyone know if the media streaming goes to the tablet controller?

[Arkhan Asylum]

I was watching demo videos in the Wii U shop thing and they were on bofe dem screens, yo.

[Joe Redifer]

So what happens if someone's internet goes down in the lengthy time it takes to download 4+ gigs which is needed simply to make the system go online? Bricked console?  The fact that the thing needs 4+ GB of data just for the OS is pathetic. Talk about bloated. Maybe if they sized that down to 200 MB or so it would be a lot snappier (the menu is supposedly pretty slow).

[Arkhan Asylum]

So what happens if someone's internet goes down in the lengthy time it takes to download 4+ gigs which is needed simply to make the system go online? Bricked console?  The fact that the thing needs 4+ GB of data just for the OS is pathetic. Talk about bloated. Maybe if they sized that down to 200 MB or so it would be a lot snappier (the menu is supposedly pretty slow).

Losing internet != yanking power cord out because you want to tweet about how slow the thing is.   I'd imagine that if you lose internet but just let the thing sit there, eventually it will keep going.

My entire update took < 30 minutes.   The menu is not slow.

[Nando]

I want this game
http://www.destructoid.com/review-mighty-switch-force-hyper-drive-edition-238916.phtml

[munchiaz]

I want this game
http://www.destructoid.com/review-mighty-switch-force-hyper-drive-edition-238916.phtml

Def plan on picking this up soon. I skipped out on the 3DS version. Way forward is an awesome developer. Also Zombi U is awesome. Don't believe these BS reviews that seem to think zombi U is an action game. Its not, its a survival horror game in the truest sense. You really feel helpless and that one mistake could cost you your life.Thats the way these games are supposed to make you feel.

This review describes the game very well - http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/review/32557

[psychobear]

My upgrade didn't take long either 35 minutes top... But who unplugs anything while doing an upgrade....

[Joe Redifer]

OK I walked into Target to buy some jeans and ended up buying a 32GB Wii U. This was not planned, it just kind of happened. I also bought 3 games because they were having a buy two and get the 3rd for half price thing. I bought everything in the electronics section and then I returned Batman Arkham City at the Guest Services because I just didn't want it right now and got the full $60 back, so I bought one game at full price and paid half price for the second. Ha! They had a lot of systems. No need to preorder.

We were all laughing at the people who bought the 8GB unit. A few of them committed suicide as we laughed at them because they were so poor. It was great. One of them tried to tell us that the system looks better in white because it's Nintendo. We told them that being white is no longer cool and everyone hates you if you're white these days. That person ended up committing suicide as well. It was funny.

OK that second paragraph was nonsensical but back to reality. I do have the system and can speak from experience.  The initial firmware update took FOREVER! My internet speed is 35+mbps and the lights were barely flashing on the router, so the issue must be on Nintendo's end.  But I got it done and everything set up.  The Wii U menu is indeed super clunky and slow. Maybe my brain is too fast for the system? If my brain was slower I might not mind so much. There's lots of icons at the bottom I can choose but I don't know what they are because they are not accompanied by any text whatsoever. Kind of an unintuitive design.  While online it says the game I am currently playing is "private" but I have no clue how to change that. It wouldn't even let me send friend requests until I had a friends list set up. But I had to search the internet to find out how to do that. It turns out I have to press the HOME button (which to me means "EXIT what you are doing now and return to the HOME menu"). Not sure why it couldn't be set up right there in the MiiVerse when I tried to send someone a friend request. Why does that even need to be initiated in the first place? It's kind of like being logged in on Facebook and then Facebook asks you "Oh you want friends?  You'll need a Facebook account which you already have. Go do that and then come back and request friends".  Pretty stupid, really.

Also, the Wii U's Xbox360 controller cannot be used in Nintendo Proper games, only 3rd party games. That's pretty lame. The new Mario game doesn't use the touch screen for ANYTHING but still won't let you use the Xbox 360 controller. LAME! But it lets you use a WiiMote? WTF? Teh Ghey.

So far the graphics are OK and nothing special nor anything really to complain about. Haven't seen anything better than PS3 or Xbox360 stuffs yet. The sound is fine but I recommend turning the volume of the Wii U Pad all the way down if you use it as the built-in speakers are annoyingly low-fi and tinny. I have heard ZERO discrete subwoofer so far. Can the Wii U do subwoofer? Yes I have enabled surround in the Wii U menu (and the controller menu but that doesn't count). Maybe I just don't have any games that use it, but Sonic racing definitely should. The first one did on the PS3 I think. Also you cannot turn the Wii U pad video off if you are using it to play so it will drain batteries SUPAFAST even though in a game like New Supa Mario Rehash 2 you quite literally NEVER look at the controller screen. WTF? Make this shit betta, Nintenda.

I'm all gangsta yo. Aight. Dat mayks me legit. wurd 2 ur mutha g.

EDIT: Typos. Lots of typos.

[jlued686]

The new Mario game doesn't use the touch screen for ANYTHING but still won't let you use the Xbox 360 controller. LAME! But it lets you use a WiiMote? WTF? Teh Ghey.

Boost Rush mode. Learn it. Live it. Love it.

[Arkhan Asylum]

OK that second paragraph was nonsensical but back to reality. I do have the system and can speak from experience.  The initial firmware update took FOREVER! My internet speed is 35+mbps and the lights were barely flashing on the router, so the issue must be on Nintendo's end.  But I got it done and everything set up.  The Wii U menu is indeed super clunky and slow. Maybe my brain is too fast for the system? If my brain was slower I might not mind so much.

What exactly is meant by "super clunky and slow"?   You poke a thing, the thing does something.   The menus work as fast as any other pokey-touch interfaces.   The shop menu/interface is a fuckload cooler than the 360 or PS3 ones.   Shit happens quickly.

There's lots of icons at the bottom I can choose but I don't know what they are because they are not accompanied by any text whatsoever. Kind of an unintuitive design. 

They correspond to the stuff on the big TV where text accompanies them.  I'm not sure what's unintuitive about this.  Did you hold the controller to your face and ignore the real TV?

It wouldn't even let me send friend requests until I had a friends list set up.

Duh.

But I had to search the internet to find out how to do that. It turns out I have to press the HOME button (which to me means "EXIT what you are doing now and return to the HOME menu"). Not sure why it couldn't be set up right there in the MiiVerse when I tried to send someone a friend request. Why does that even need to be initiated in the first place? It's kind of like being logged in on Facebook and then Facebook asks you "Oh you want friends?  You'll need a Facebook account which you already have. Go do that and then come back and request friends".  Pretty stupid, really.

What's stupid is you had to go online to figure out something that simple.  Also, the point of having the friends list separate should be obvious.  If it's not, I dunno what to tell you.   Pay more attention, or something.

Also, the Wii U's Xbox360 controller cannot be used in Nintendo Proper games, only 3rd party games. That's pretty lame. The new Mario game doesn't use the touch screen for ANYTHING but still won't let you use the Xbox 360 controller. LAME! But it lets you use a WiiMote? WTF? Teh Ghey.

This is funny, mostly because NSMBU shows you what the giant controller/touchscreen does with a MASSIVE PICTURE ON THE SCREEN.   I am convinced you close your eyes while playing games, because the image that shows you the controller thing and mentions BOOST mode takes up the entire fucking screen, dude.


Old people are funny.  Everyone else is having fun and you're complaining about dumb shit.

[NecroPhile]

Christ, you sound like Zeta - "Oh noes, someone's saying something negative about Nintendo!"

[Arkhan Asylum]

Christ, you sound like Zeta - "Oh noes, someone's saying something negative about Nintendo!"

Its not really negative stuff about nintendo.  It's more like "I don't pay attention" stuff about Nintendo.

but, this is RoeJedifer, so I guess I shouldn't be shocked.

[jlued686]

I will agree with Joe that the menus are slow. It generally takes a good 15 seconds from the time you click on something until the time it pops up.

Also, not being able to access the Friends list from the main menu is fucking retarded. The only way I've found to access it is by being in a game and then hitting Home > Friends Icon. Why that Friends Icon isn't listed on the main menu is beyond me. I mean, what if I log on and simply want to see what my friends are playing so I can maybe jump in a game with them? Doesn't seem possible at the moment.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I will agree with Joe that the menus are slow. It generally takes a good 15 seconds from the time you click on something until the time it pops up.

I have seriously not been experiencing this, nor has a friend, and a coworker who all have Wii Us.   That's odd.   I wonder if the thing is doing something network related to bounce around menus?  *shrug*   I notice that the games take a bit to boot up when they sit at the splash screen, though.  But, that seems normal for any console today..

Also, not being able to access the Friends list from the main menu is fucking retarded. The only way I've found to access it is by being in a game and then hitting Home > Friends Icon. Why that Friends Icon isn't listed on the main menu is beyond me. I mean, what if I log on and simply want to see what my friends are playing so I can maybe jump in a game with them? Doesn't seem possible at the moment.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2012/11/10-things/2/

Sounds like Joe, lol.  although, I would like to know how you can display a movie better on a touchpad thing with an Xbox.  The article says you can.


I dunno, while people have been complaining about dumb shit that is secondary to playing games, I've just been pounding Mario's ass all night.

and that Chasing Aurorororororora game in the Wii Shop.  That shit is cool as fuck.  It's like Origami ADD Flight Adventure 9000.




It also seems fairly normal that <1 week into the launch of a brand new console, that there are some goofy quirks and things that aren't ready yet.  That happened with all of the next gen consoles that have menus and bullshit floating around.

All I say to that is, shut the fuck up and play a game on the thing.  


I get the feeling this is the new Dreamcast.   You either love it, or you hate it.   

[Nando]

Have you guys tried any Wii games on it?

[Arkhan Asylum]

Have you guys tried any Wii games on it?

Yea, I played Kirby Return to Dreamland on it, and Lost in Shadow.

Works like a champ.  It also isn't a massively painful wait to get into Wii mode.

Who the fuck sits and times how long it takes to boot into a game mode.   

[jlued686]

I have seriously not been experiencing this, nor has a friend, and a coworker who all have Wii Us.   That's odd.   I wonder if the thing is doing something network related to bounce around menus?  *shrug*   I notice that the games take a bit to boot up when they sit at the splash screen, though.  But, that seems normal for any console today..

Everything I've read about it (impressions from game sites) have said the same thing: the shit takes a long-ass time to load, relatively speaking.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2012/11/10-things/2/

Sounds like Joe, lol.  although, I would like to know how you can display a movie better on a touchpad thing with an Xbox.  The article says you can.

I think his complaint was that you can't watch it on both simultaneously. Not a huge deal, IMO, but would've been a nice feature, I guess.

I get the feeling this is the new Dreamcast.   You either love it, or you hate it.    

What kind of asshole hated the Dreamcast?

Have you guys tried any Wii games on it?

Not yet. Just Virtual Console games.

Yea, I played Kirby Return to Dreamland on it, and Lost in Shadow.

Works like a champ.  It also isn't a massively painful wait to get into Wii mode.

Who the fuck sits and times how long it takes to boot into a game mode.

Well, compared to the Wii playing GameCube games, where you - you know - just popped in a disc without having to click on a special "GameCube Mode" and wait for it to load, then select your game, it sure seems a bit cumbersome.

Anyway, I'm not bagging on the WiiU by any means. I love it so far. But they do have a few things to iron out over the coming months, that's for sure.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Everything I've read about it (impressions from game sites) have said the same thing: the shit takes a long-ass time to load, relatively speaking.

Relative to what?   It's a dumb thing to complain about, especially because it's not even slow unless you're writing a blog about it.


The booting into Wii mode is nice to me.  It's like having two systems hooked up, except ones shoved in the other.

When I boot up a PS1 game on the PS3, it's not super fast either.   and I have to go fuck with the goofy memorycard maker thing and then if I want to back that up I have to go manually do it.    Big Fucking Deal.


fuckers need to get off the whaaambulance and just play the games.    I wonder what these people like about the Wii U other than giving them ability to go online and whine like pros.

[Nando]

Have you guys tried any Wii games on it?

Not yet. Just Virtual Console games.

Can you play those on the tablet alone or are you still tethered to the TV?

[jlued686]

The shit's slow, man. Relative to anything. If I click on an App or a category on the 360, it takes about .2 seconds to pop up. Same with most things on the iPad. The WiiU takes at least 15 seconds with each of their categories. It's not whining. It's fact. You said it works as fast as any other device. It doesn't. Not that I care; I'm just pointing it out.

Pointing out a few minor complaints doesn't equate to "whining". The console's not perfect. But what console is? (Other than the Duo, of course). Especially at launch.

Can you play those on the tablet alone or are you still tethered to the TV?

Still tethered to the TV because in order to access Virtual Console games you have to go to Wii mode. You can't access them at all from the WiiU. That's apparently supposed to change at some point, but I have no idea when.

[Nando]

Can you play those on the tablet alone or are you still tethered to the TV?

Still tethered to the TV because in order to access Virtual Console games you have to go to Wii mode. You can't access them at all from the WiiU. That's apparently supposed to change at some point, but I have no idea when.

Hopefully they do change that, I can understand Wii games not being able to be played that way, but VC games totally should.

[Arkhan Asylum]

The stuff on the internet I keep seeing is definitely whiny.   A bunch of stupid know it all bloggers and morons crying about dumbshit without ever talking about the key component:  The games themselves.


Also, I dunno, the stuff really isn't that slow over here.  I'll go check again when I get a chance today, but I swear it didn't go ultra slow and make me want to go on twitter and tell the planet.

[jlued686]

I know this is completely against your personality, but I think you're being overly-critical. ;) If your job was to write about the ins and outs of a console, are you supposed to ignore discussing the things you don't like about it? I'm no fan of the so-called "gaming press", but pointing out the WiiU's shortcomings in the context of "here's what the WiiU does well and not so well" is kind of the whole point.

@Nando: The fact that you have to go into Wii mode to access Virtual Console games is pretty stupid. I realize there's supposedly an update coming, so I'll reserve judgment until then. But if the update doesn't allow seamless play of your VC titles w/out having to fuck with Wii mode or - god forbid - purchasing them over again, I'll be really annoyed.

[jlued686]

On a far more positive note, this is why MiiVerse is awesome:
http://kotaku.com/5962331/the-weird-insane-often-funny-art-of-miiverse

Also, speaking of MiiVerse, I discovered yesterday that if you get stuck/have a question/or just find something cool in a game, you can post a screenshot from your game pad to MiiVerse and get tips or whatever. That is a fucking awesome feature! All you have to do is hit the Home button, select MiiVerse, and then post a new message. Then, click on the Image icon, and the screenshot will automatically appear. So cool...

[Nando]

so Nintendo is really trying to do their own social media bit eh? I like that Mii verse feature, reads pretty cool.  The art is just funny as hell.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I know this is completely against your personality, but I think you're being overly-critical. ;) If your job was to write about the ins and outs of a console, are you supposed to ignore discussing the things you don't like about it? I'm no fan of the so-called "gaming press", but pointing out the WiiU's shortcomings in the context of "here's what the WiiU does well and not so well" is kind of the whole point.

Some of these people, it isn't their job.  It's just their self-given task for the evening.

and I've seen way too many THIS IS WHY IT SUCKS articles and posts.   These people aren't being very balanced with their jive.   It's a bunch of whining followed by ZERO comments about games themselves.

fuck those people.  Get them off the internet and throw them in a hole somewhere.

It's the height of stupidity to write an entire article or post complaining about a game console without mentioning any games.


also, yes, Miiverse is awesome.

Funny Kotaku posted it, because usually those fuckfarts are the ones complaining or posting some srsly tarded crap.

[Nando]

so speaking of games. Mario is awesome, or so I have heard. Even if some of it is the same old same old. What are some other worthwhile launch games? That scribblenauts games looks like fun too.

[Arkhan Asylum]

so speaking of games. Mario is awesome, or so I have heard. Even if some of it is the same old same old. What are some other worthwhile launch games? That scribblenauts games looks like fun too.

All of the launch games I've tried so far are actually pretty solid.

Mario is extremely fun.  It gives you that same fuzzy, exciting feeling as Mario 3 or SMW.

ZombiU's complaints are thrown out there by FPStards.   This is basically Resident Evil in first person.  It's slow paced and hard.   It's a great launch title trying something new.

Scribblenauts is bitchin as fuck.  Its scribblenauts.

Epic Mickey is another excellent platformer game.

That's what I've tried so far, and its better than the launch 360, PS3, Wii, 3DS, and even the Vita launches so far.

You basically get right into playing without having to fuck around.

[jlued686]

Nintendo Land is great fun, and I already talked about Mario before.

I'm really wanting to get Scribblenauts, but not sure if I want to shell out $60 for a new version of a game that costs $1 on the iPad. I also want to grab ZombiU.

OH! Someone asked about Rayman Legends. There are demos in stores, and if you liked Rayman Origins, this is more of that, but even better. The game comes out next year, I think.

[Joe Redifer]

Ha ha Psycho Arkhan I typed most of the things I did in the tone I did because I knew you'd go apeshit trying to defend it. But still, most of what I said definitely has some truth to it. Stop being blind to the flaws, many of which can probably be fixed with future massive OS updates. Nothing wrong with liking the system, but it has a ways to go before it is equal in quality to the PS3. The graphics in the games I played are lower resolution than the PS3 and 360 stuff. NSMBU should look as crisp as Rayman on the PS3, but it does not. I'd be surprised if it were actually being rendered in more than something like 540 or 640p at most and then upscaled. Like I believe I already may have said, it doesn't look any crisper than the gamepad screen. Jaggies galore.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Ha ha Arkhan I typed most of the things I did in the tone I did because I knew you'd go apeshit trying to defend it.

Oh really? I couldn't tell.  You're a master of trickery.

But still, most of what I said definitely has some truth to it. Stop being blind to the flaws, many of which can probably be fixed with future massive OS updates. Nothing wrong with liking the system, but it has a ways to go before it is equal in quality to the PS3.

I'm not blind to flaws.  I am dismissive of them because they're insignificant kinks.  They're not even worth griping about.  Especially the "Top 10 things I hate" style crap online.   <1week into the systems life, the only real things you should complain about are:

1) The games suck and are not fun (Which is completely false at this point.  The launch library is pretty kickass.  Much better than the 360 and PS3 had at launch, for example).

Of course it has a ways to go before its equal in quality to a system that's been out for as long as the PS3.   Duhhhh.  

When I see gripes about games for the Wii U, that's fine.  I don't mind.  It's acceptable and I probably won't jump to defense mode.  

Griping about stupid shit like I CAN'T DO THE THING IN THE MENU YET or THIS FEATURE IS DUMB its like, who cares.  Did you buy the Wii U to play video games or to fingerfuck yourself in a bunch of menus all day?   I got it so I could play games.  If the thing had 0 menus and just went straight into games, I'd be fine.  I bet everyone else would have strokes.

Complaints that give off the air that you just aren't paying attention are also pretty funny.  You make it sound like you want to be spoon fed everything like a 5 year old sometimes, and other times you assert that you are smart as fuck.   Little kids figured out boost mode in NSMBU.  It's in the instructions probably.  I can't be sure of this because I didn't read the manual.  I just used the giant on-screen cue to learn of this feature.  

Same with the friendslist.   Found it by exploring the on screen menus that have text saying what things are.  Tunnel vision isn't a valid excuse for complaints.  

I don't even know what the fuck WiiTV is exactly, to be honest.   I also don't give a fuck about all these MiiVerse problems since I didn't get a Wii U to socialize with tools on the internet while I am jumping on turtles.

I also honestly don't feel like the menu is slow and awful and makes me want to kill myself.  It certainly isn't slow enough that I want to get online and piss and moan about it.   If I don't want to complain about it, chances are its not that bad.  I fire the fucker up, and before my TV is even fully activated, the Wii U is already making Mario noises and shit.


Maybe that's it.   I don't notice because I am waiting for my TV to do shit.  

I should go online and tweet about how my Sony TV takes too long to turn on because it can sense that I am using a Nintendo product.

The graphics in the games I played are lower resolution than the PS3 and 360 stuff. NSMBU should look as crisp as Rayman on the PS3, but it does not. I'd be surprised if it were actually being rendered in more than something like 540 or 640p at most and then upscaled. Like I believe I already may have said, it doesn't look any crisper than the gamepad screen. Jaggies galore.

Hmm. I don't see jagged stuff in NSMBU.  I spotted a few graphical herpderps on the world map at one point but it wasn't anything you don't see in current PS3 games.  Clipping hiccups are normal as fuck.  


Trine 2 looks great as well, as does that origami bird flying game, Scribblenauts, and even ZombiU.  For launch games, they look great.  It's only going to get better from here, and considering how nice the stuff already is, I'd say that's a good sign.

[Joe Redifer]

Oh really? I couldn't tell.

Again responding exactly as I predicted!

Are you playing in standard definition? Or are you sitting far away from your TV? Lots of jaggies in Mario. And the point with the friend list is that you shouldn't even have to go turn it on. It's an unnecessary step. But you seem to be really emotional about defending it, so oh well. And as for the menu being slow we're not talking about the initial boot time.

Duhhhh.

Are you one of those 12 year olds on Xbox Live who always talks about my mom or tries to insult her? I feel like I'm talking to a 5th grader. But again, it's what you do who you are. That's your defense mechanism whenever someone criticizes something you like.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Again responding exactly as I predicted!

I'm glad you feel accomplished that you can predict exactly how someone will post.  You're a real fuckin' Sherlock here, guessing how people with 9000+ posts will respond.    Big deal.  Do you want a cookie?  It's not impressive.  You don't see me patting myself on the back when you post in the same predictable, patented "JoeRedifer, the clueless retard." manner. 

Are you playing in standard definition? Or are you sitting far away from your TV? Lots of jaggies in Mario. And the point with the friend list is that you shouldn't even have to go turn it on. It's an unnecessary step. But you seem to be really emotional about defending it, so oh well. And as for the menu being slow we're not talking about the initial boot time.

no, I am playing on a 55" Sony Bravia.  I am sitting about 4 feet away from the screen.  How about you?  It looks great over here.  Everyone I've spoken to except for you seems to agree.  That puts you in the minority, so I dismiss your criticism.   You can see a clear difference between the Wii era Mario games and NSMBU.   Shit looks excellent.  As do the other games I've tried.    What games have you tried?  Or, are you still trying to wrap your head around how to turn the thing off and on without yanking the cord out of the outlet?

Also, I understand that we are not talking about the boot time.  My point is, I don't notice much about the menus because I am too busy playing GAMES ASAP on it as opposed to fingerblasting myself while complaining about stupid shit.   What kind of gamer focuses on dumb shit that is irrelevant to playing the video games?   Retarded ones.    My goal when I turn on a game console is to get the game going as close to immediately as possible so I can play. 

From what I did experience of all the menus, especially the shop ones, they weren't slow to me.  I was like "hey this is neat.  I might investigate these menus in greater detail later, but I really want to play a fucking video game instead of jackoff in these menus watching preview trailers all day.  Oh! I better turn this buddy list on real fast though!  Man that was easy.   I wonder what kind of jackass would get stumped by this feature."

Speaking of the friends list, some people don't want to be social.  I know this is hard to grasp from someone who's got such a strong media presence like you do, but there ARE people who really don't give a fuck about interacting with the rest of the world while gaming.  That's my guess as to why you have to go activate it.  The gripers so far are mostly people who have their dicks so far up into social networking's snatch that they're poking tonsils.

This concept is very much like how you have to activate the Facebook stuff, or how you have to turn AIM on and voluntarily make yourself visible.   It makes sense, and it didn't fucking hurt to turn it on, so why even bring it up?    I'm not emotional about anything.   This is just how I tend to talk about things (It's also how a lot of people in my age bracket talk.  Hah. You are old.).  It is frustrating how stupid some people are with regards to video game consoles and their features.  "THIS FEATURE DOESN'T APPLY EXACTLY TO ME SO I BETTER FUCKING COMPLAIN ABOUT IT".    FFS, STFU.   Play games or gtfo.  Seriously.

Like that assclown who posted about how Mario games should be.  Fuck that guy.  What the hell does he know?  "The mushroom kingdom should be different with each Mario game".  Fuck off, duder.

I feel like I'm talking to a 5th grader. But again, it's what you do who you are.

well, with snippets like this, I feel like I am talking to an inbred autistic child.

That's your defense mechanism whenever someone criticizes something you like.

No.  See, that is where you mistake things, as usual, because you never pay attention.  This is not a "defense mechanism".   This is just me posting my usual, abrasive response to someone complaining about stupid shit.   Your usual is to make comments that shout out "Hi, I am Joe Redifer.  I'm a fucking retard and never pay attention to anything."   You have a pretty solid habit of being completely oblivious.  I can think of at least 5 times.

Seriously Joe, you're like HURHUARHAURHAURH THE BIG TOUCH CONTROLLER AINT DO NOTHIN IN MARIO CAUSE FUCK.

They have a gigantic goddamn picture showing you that it does something.  So the fact that you missed this means you're a retard.  That or you're just fucking around, which still makes you a retard.

All the people that needed to refer to the googlemachines to get the friendslist to work are also fucking retarded. 


Everyone is a retard.  Fuck yeah.

So seriously now, what do you think of the ACTUAL GAMES.  Not all the stupid foofoo shit that is irrelevant.

[Joe Redifer]

LOL!

The games are OK. Mario is Mario. Sonic Racing All Stars seems unfinished. I'll have to try the 360 or PS3 version to see if it's better. It probably is. I haven't touched Nintendo Land yet.

[Arkhan Asylum]

You should try ZombiU.

Though, you have to pay attention to two screens at once, so that might throw you for a loop.

[Joe Redifer]

It might. But I'm not really interested in it. If they had a demo I'd definitely try it. I will agree with you though that the eShop functions pretty damn well. Hopefully soon they'll have demos.

The games I'm interested in are Nintendo exclusives and also multiplatform games that are better on the Wii U than they are on the Xbox 360 and PS3 because of the small but likely noticeable technical advantage it will have when developers figure their shit out.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I see great possibilities for a Star Fox game.

the touchpad could have radar and shit

[8bitForLife]

the easiest way to add people is through miiverse and use the search function then when you add them that way the other person sees the friend invite.

Add me 8bitForLife

[Mathius]

Like that assclown who posted about how Mario games should be.  Fuck that guy.  What the hell does he know?  "The mushroom kingdom should be different with each Mario game".  Fuck off, duder.

Having a Mushroom Kingdom that feels refreshing with each new game isn't some retarded notion I have. I experienced the Mario magic back in '86 and with each subsequent game it always felt like I was experiencing something new and original. I know it can happen in this era because Super Mario Galaxy did it in spectacular fashion. Sorry if I offended you, man, but do we really need to go there?

[Arkhan Asylum]

Like that assclown who posted about how Mario games should be.  Fuck that guy.  What the hell does he know?  "The mushroom kingdom should be different with each Mario game".  Fuck off, duder.

Having a Mushroom Kingdom that feels refreshing with each new game isn't some retarded notion I have. I experienced the Mario magic back in '86 and with each subsequent game it always felt like I was experiencing something new and original. I know it can happen in this era because Super Mario Galaxy did it in spectacular fashion. Sorry if I offended you, man, but do we really need to go there?

youre not the assclown, dingus.

The article writer is.

lol.

none of that was directed at you.