OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD

[TR0N]

Glad that bastard got it finally however i'm sure some one will replace him.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110502/ap_on_re_us/us_bin_laden

[Joe Redifer]

Can I have my rights back now?

[TR0N]

Can I have my rights back now?

Pre 911 hmm i don't know not !! 

[VestCunt]

Wait, so people still believe that theory about Islamic extremists conspiring to bring down the WTC towers?

[blueraven]

Awesome clip, tr0n.

Can I have my rights back now?

Stand up and fight, Joe.

[Joe Redifer]

Wait, so people still believe that theory about Islamic extremists conspiring to bring down the WTC towers?

Just the ones who don't own any tin foil hats.

[Opethian]

[Tatsujin]

[OldRover]

Leave it up to Fox to fuck it up.

[turbogrfxfan]

Well I believe that theory and I'm glad they killed that bastard on he spot
. Thing is though, now its their move.
  I now once again feel a little
More unsafe when I get off the subway at times square on my way to work. So even when he's dead he's still terrOrizing. He changed my world for gooD. And like 911 he won't be forgotten.

[Tatsujin]

he didn't do'h teh 911.

[alexsduo]

I wish Bonk had gotten him instead...

[JoshTurboTrollX]

I've personally stated thoughts on Facebook, but I can share here as well.

Of course something needed to get done.  Justice, I hope, was served.  For what he did, he deserved probably more pain... but this at least puts him away for good.  I now worry about what will be done in retaliation by this terrorist group.  No doubt someone will rise up and take his place.  I fear this may only get worse.  I also don't understand the celebrating of someones death.  Seeing the video and pictures of people singing and dancing with signs that say "He's finally DEAD!"  and "OSAMA is in Hell", only reminds me of the Palestinians singing and dancing in their streets when the Twin towers were destroyed...  just makes no sense.  Gang Warfare.  They kill our guy, they party.  We kill their guy, we party.  When does this end?

One thing I did feel good about, was the Philly's/ Mets game on Sunday Night Baseball on ESPN.  When word started spreading through the stands of the news of Osama's Death, the announcers and the teams just paused for a moment and 50,000 plus people just started chanting USA USA for a sold 10 minutes!  It was a really great moment that I choose to stick into my memory banks for the rest of my life.

[turbogrfxfan]

Yeah I don't agree w celebrating his death either. We didn't win anything we just upset a bee hive. All we did was close a chapter and got revenge. Its their turn now

[SuperDeadite]

I doubt Osama ever made plans.  More of a figure head, a face for the world to see. 
The real terrorist leaders don't show their faces.

[SignOfZeta]

Finally I can go outside!

Rejoicing over someone's death is perverse, in this case even from a perspective of pure math. "The war on terror" has killed 500 times as many arabs as the Trade Center attacks killed Americans. Hell, more Americans have died (from road side bombs, friendly fire, suicide, etc) in the attempt to carry out this revenge killing than were killed in the Trade Center. You have to have a really fucked up sense of justice to think that makes any sense.

[Senshi]

Wait, so people still believe that theory about Islamic extremists conspiring to bring down the WTC towers?

I hope that's a joke.

[Raizen1984]

People that think it's inappropriate for American's to be celebrating this bastards death can go fuck themselves.

This is absolutely good news and it should be celebrated.

[JoshTurboTrollX]

then I guess I'm fucking myself.  We dance the night away in celebration of this.  Then later something terrible happens on US soil, and they dance the night away!

Woo, Street gang warfare mentality FTW!

[Tatsujin]

Wait, so people still believe that theory about Islamic extremists conspiring to bring down the WTC towers?

I hope that's a joke.

I dont think it's a joke really, because the WTCs never were brought down by the planes only.

[Tatsujin]

People that think it's inappropriate for American's to be celebrating this bastards death can go fuck themselves.

This is absolutely good news and it should be celebrated.

So why aren't you celebrating on the streets right now?

[Raizen1984]

Because I have a job.   Believe me, I was celebrating last night when I heard the news.

It's not a street gang warfare mentality.  It's being happy that an evil man who has killed many innocent Americans is now dead.

I can't believe I even need to explain this.  Would you have said the same thing when Hitler died if you were around then?

[turbogrfxfan]

Ha ha ha that bomb theory is crap!! Its siumply impossible for that not toi be detected. How could they have all those bombs go off in sequence with over a hundred stories in both buildings with people in those buildings 24 hours a day having to run tens of thousands of feet of wire connecting to each bomb plus some of the boimbs would of had to of been visibly mounted to columns. Give me a fuckin break. And who placed the bombs??

[turbogrfxfan]

Most of those floors are completely open I've done commercial audio video in both towers

[NecroPhile]

This is absolutely good news and it should be celebrated.

Why?  He was but one twat among many; his death will change absolutely nothing.

[Raizen1984]

Granted.  I am still happy he is dead, and I find no fault in other people feeling the same way.

[JoshTurboTrollX]

I can't believe I even need to explain this.  Would you have said the same thing when Hitler died if you were around then?

I can see the death of Bin Laden as being Symbolic, but its true, they will just pop another leader in and continue their business.  Comparing the death of Hitler and Nazi's to the death of Bin Laden and Al Qaeda isn't quite accurate.  When Hitler died, we had nearly the entire Nazi army in our possession.  This is one member of a terrorist group that we have NO idea where the rest are, or how many their could be.

[VestCunt]

Wait, so people still believe that theory about Islamic extremists conspiring to bring down the WTC towers?

I hope that's a joke.

Just a reminder that the official story is also a conspiracy theory.

[turbogrfxfan]

Yeah and these same lame fuckin assholes will say bin laden is still alive even though they did a dna test. You can say the sky is blue and they would say its not. Grow the fuck up.

[turbogrfxfan]

Hga ha yeah its a conspiracy theory that santa claus is real. Ye yea its true!!! Santa is real ut jesus got jealous cause santa was taking up the limelight so jesus banished him to the south pole for life cause santa was a bad boy!!!!!!  - find these theorys disrespetful to this country and to the people trhat dies and gave their lives. What happen and what they cvlaim is solidf proof. Wherte is there solid evidence in these theories?  That's wehy they are theories

[guyjin]

Rejoicing over someone's death is perverse,

I suppose you're sad that Hitler is also dead?

[NecroPhile]

Bottom line: we spent ten years and billions of dollars for this 'win'.  Bravo.

[Opethian]

[nat]

Bottom line: we spent ten years and billions of dollars for this 'win'.  Bravo.

Maybe if we'd had Obama in office from the get-go instead of Bush it wouldn't have taken so long.


<ducks>

[TheClash603]

I am going on vacation this weekend, and now there is a "terror alert" for flights.  Although the odds of something happening are pretty slim, I don't like that this "victory" now has to put me on edge when I go on vacation.

The only good thing was a temporary drop in metal prices, so I could scoop up some more.  Hyperinflation, here we come.

[Joe Redifer]

Yeah and these same [swell folks] will say bin laden is still alive

Yup.  And that Obama's birth certificate is still fake.  That Elvis is still alive... same with Saddam.  And that we didn't land on the moon.  Everything is a conspiracy, NOTHING is the truth.  I have a friend like that and he is very entertaining to listen to.

[blueraven]

And again... For effect.

[rag-time4]

Yeah and these same lame fuckin assholes will say bin laden is still alive even though they did a dna test. You can say the sky is blue and they would say its not. Grow the fuck up.

They would also say that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, so we need to go in an kill him and all his children,at great cost to Iraqi civilians and it could turn out to be nothing but a lie.

Because I have a job.   Believe me, I was celebrating last night when I heard the news.

It's not a street gang warfare mentality.  It's being happy that an evil man who has killed many innocent Americans is now dead.

I can't believe I even need to explain this.  Would you have said the same thing when Hitler died if you were around then?

Hitler was defeated, at the cost of 50 million dead. Was it really necessary to firebomb civilian targets in Germany and Japan, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people living under dictatorships? Was it necessary to drop atomic bombs on two Japanese cities, again killing hundreds of thousands?

Means to an end you may say, but I'm sure Hitler would say the same, so in the end what's the difference?

[nectarsis]

Yeah and these same lame fuckin assholes will say bin laden is still alive even though they did a dna test. You can say the sky is blue and they would say its not. Grow the fuck up.

They would also say that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, so we need to go in an kill him and all his children,at great cost to Iraqi civilians and it could turn out to be nothing but a lie.

Because I have a job.   Believe me, I was celebrating last night when I heard the news.

It's not a street gang warfare mentality.  It's being happy that an evil man who has killed many innocent Americans is now dead.

I can't believe I even need to explain this.  Would you have said the same thing when Hitler died if you were around then?

Hitler was defeated, at the cost of 50 million dead. Was it really necessary to firebomb civilian targets in Germany and Japan, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people living under dictatorships? Was it necessary to drop atomic bombs on two Japanese cities, again killing hundreds of thousands?

Means to an end you may say, but I'm sure Hitler would say the same, so in the end what's the difference?

Let's not forget our "ally" Stalin that was responsible for more deaths than Hitler ;)

Have you ever read about both the civilian, and soldier death estimates of a mainland Japan invasion?  While the atomic bombs can be debated forever, a direct invasion would have been catastrophic on a MUCH higher bodycount.  War has def changed in the last 60+ years...many things  done in the past are no longer "acceptable/necessary."

[VestCunt]

Yeah and these same lame fuckin assholes will say bin laden is still alive even though they did a dna test. You can say the sky is blue and they would say its not. Grow the fuck up.

We have some different opinions and different views.  No big deal.  It's good to talk about these things.  I'm not un-patriotic and you're not brainwashed.  We both have logical reasons for believing what we do.  We all care about our troops.  We all like the Turbografx.

9/11 theories are hard to debate because they touch on our core beliefs about the integrity of our entire country.

Here's a little personal story that contributed to my current beliefs.  I like this one because it doesn't rely on statistics or the veracity of particular media sources:

My grandpa flew a B17 bomber over Germany in WWII.  On their maps was the location of a Ford automobile plant.  Everyone was certain that it had been retooled to manufacture German tanks, tanks that were killing our troops.  However, because Ford was a U.S.-based corporation, my grandpa and all of the other pilots were told to stay well away from that Ford plant.

The end.

Take what you want from this story.  For me, this story alone doesn't make me certain of anything, but it's one indication that there are private interests in our country who don't give two shits about me, you, or our troops, and that they've been able to exercise considerable influence for at least the last seventy years.

[termis]

Rather would've seen him captured alive.  I think the end result that way would've been better than satiating vengeance mentality.  That said, if he wasn't willing to surrender right away, I see no foul in sending him a bullet.  

Either way, I hope this brings some sense of closure to the families of 9/11 victims.

[NecroPhile]

Was it really necessary to firebomb civilian targets in Germany and Japan, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people living under dictatorships?

Innocent how?  In both cases, the women/children/elderly were the ones producing weapons and ammo and they'd attack allied troops when given half a chance.

[JoshTurboTrollX]

It went down like this:

[Ash]

And again... For effect.

wow. Great pictures!!!!!!!!

[alexsduo]

In the future war should be played with a TG and Military Madness.

[Joe Redifer]

Was it necessary to drop atomic bombs on two Japanese cities, again killing hundreds of thousands?

It's easy to sit back and ask questions like that these days when hindsight is 20/20.  But the fact of the matter is that the Japanese were warned of our atomic bomb.  After we dropped the first one, their pride would not allow them to surrender even though we told them to or face another a-bomb dropping.  After the 2nd, they finally gave in.

Yes, war is bad and I am not saying how great it is that people die.  But people do die in wars, lots of them.  It's what people do (go to war).  I'm at the point where I almost think it is kind of natural for man to war to keep the population in check.  Of course, I'm pulling that out of my ass, but we've gone to war ever since we were able to do so and I don't think it's a switch that can just be turned off cold turkey.

Look at teh drama that happens on this and many forums.  When a conflict occurs, it attracts a lot of people and "dealing" with said conflict you are involved in can be very hard to resist.

[turbogrfxfan]

Very good point

[rag-time4]

Was it necessary to drop atomic bombs on two Japanese cities, again killing hundreds of thousands?

It's easy to sit back and ask questions like that these days when hindsight is 20/20.  But the fact of the matter is that the Japanese were warned of our atomic bomb.  After we dropped the first one, their pride would not allow them to surrender even though we told them to or face another a-bomb dropping.  After the 2nd, they finally gave in.

Yes, war is bad and I am not saying how great it is that people die.  But people do die in wars, lots of them.  It's what people do (go to war).  I'm at the point where I almost think it is kind of natural for man to war to keep the population in check.  Of course, I'm pulling that out of my ass, but we've gone to war ever since we were able to do so and I don't think it's a switch that can just be turned off cold turkey.

Look at teh drama that happens on this and many forums.  When a conflict occurs, it attracts a lot of people and "dealing" with said conflict you are involved in can be very hard to resist.

I appreciate your comments on war, but the one thing I will retort with is this: I disagree with your lumping all of 'the Japanese' together rhetorically. The other fact of the matter is that the Japanese government at that time was a dictatorship, and the civilians targeted by the U.S. atomic bombs (and the U.S. firebombings) had nothing to do with the dicision making process.

Yeah and these same lame fuckin assholes will say bin laden is still alive even though they did a dna test. You can say the sky is blue and they would say its not. Grow the fuck up.

They would also say that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, so we need to go in an kill him and all his children,at great cost to Iraqi civilians and it could turn out to be nothing but a lie.

Because I have a job.   Believe me, I was celebrating last night when I heard the news.

It's not a street gang warfare mentality.  It's being happy that an evil man who has killed many innocent Americans is now dead.

I can't believe I even need to explain this.  Would you have said the same thing when Hitler died if you were around then?

Hitler was defeated, at the cost of 50 million dead. Was it really necessary to firebomb civilian targets in Germany and Japan, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent people living under dictatorships? Was it necessary to drop atomic bombs on two Japanese cities, again killing hundreds of thousands?

Means to an end you may say, but I'm sure Hitler would say the same, so in the end what's the difference?

Let's not forget our "ally" Stalin that was responsible for more deaths than Hitler ;)

Have you ever read about both the civilian, and soldier death estimates of a mainland Japan invasion?  While the atomic bombs can be debated forever, a direct invasion would have been catastrophic on a MUCH higher bodycount.  War has def changed in the last 60+ years...many things  done in the past are no longer "acceptable/necessary."

To be honest Nec, no, I don't think I have ever read anything on death estimates of a mainland Japan invasion. I can, however, tell you that in the upper division U.S. history course I took on the period, an entire lecture and discussion day was dedicated to the debate about the atomic bombing, so I'm well aware of the argument.

Have you ever read anything on the Hague conventions, which were international treaties governing the laws of war through World War II, which were used as the legal basis for the war crimes trials of captured Nazi leaders? In 1963, a Japanese court ruled that the atomic bombings in Japan were violations of international law at the time they took place.

My point with all of this is that vilifying people like Hitler and Osama Bin Laden while at the same time giving war profiteers based in the U.S. and her allies a free pass is extremely hypocritical. I think that celebrating the death of Osama Bin Laden, when it's common knowledge that he was actually propped up by U.S. support in the first place, is unwise at best, because it reflects a lack of wisdom concerning the real movers and shakers that are behind military actions around the world.

The left-leaning regime in Afghanistan that Osama Bin Laden was so violently opposed to seemed like it was doing some very positive things, particularly with regards to the role of women in society, education, etc. None of that matters, however, because they were going to give the Soviet Union more access to their strategic territory and natural resources, leaving our big mega corporations out of the loop. Therefore, supporting Osama Bin Laden was in line with "U.S. strategic interests," which to me, is merely propaganda speak for "The interests of the rich and mega-rich in the U.S."

Rather would've seen him captured alive.  I think the end result that way would've been better than satiating vengeance mentality.  That said, if he wasn't willing to surrender right away, I see no foul in sending him a bullet. 

Either way, I hope this brings some sense of closure to the families of 9/11 victims.

The Nazis killed millions of people, yet when possible, their leaders were captured and put on trial. I think a trial of Osama Bin Laden would have been very productive, particularly because it may have led to more transparency with regard to 9/11. I think that if in fact Osama Bin Laden was guilty of masterminding 9/11, and convicted, it would be beneficial to the U.S.' image abroad.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Well I heard Bin Ladle was reaching for his gat, so they capped him.

Its a thugs life, niggas.

[rag-time4]

Well I heard Bin Ladle was reaching for his gat, so they capped him.

Its a thugs life, niggas.

That was what President Obama said at first, but new reports are saying that Osama Bin Laden was unarmed