So I haven't posted on this forum often since collectors don't seem to get the warmest reception (I seemed to get a LITTLE slack since I actually play these games, but still). I however have had quite a bit of success utilizing this forum for purchases so I figured i'd go for another shot. Since i've come here I bought a refurbished Turboduo console from a really good seller here, and yesterday got into contact with another user and bought something like 3600 dollars of games from him. Those games are en route now and likely will be here by the end of the week.
I mention this for 2 reasons, first, to hopefully show that contacting me won't waste your time, and second, because I know a few of the things I ordered will have a few parts i'd not mind replacing. To that end i'll have to wait until the order comes in and comb through it all, so for now i'll focus on what I know.
Since you guys don't know me, for these versions I'm only going for the US releases and to have them entirely complete (so, cardboard box and all if applicable), and at least in very good shape (with some wear being fine, we'd just have to talk). There are a few things I could work on loose wise too as noted below.
I think that about covers it, so with that said, here are some things I know i'll have potential interest in, and i'll update it with a final list once I get this big order in and hopefully all goes well. I do hope once I (more or less) finish collecting that I might be able to take part in the discussion of games I'd like to play. The next game I want to play is Adventure Island, really big fan of that series elsewhere so I imagine this one will be great.
List to find
HuCard Stuff
Andre Panza Kick Boxing (I would need a nice box and/or manual for this, so open to any talk)
Bomberman 93 (have the whole set but box is damaged, so would focus on that)
Bonk 3 (need the outer box, unlikely to find)
Chase H.Q.
Chew Man Fu
Jackie Chan's Action Kung Fu
Shockman
World Class Tennis (I believe just a manual for this as mine has writing)
Super CD Stuff
The Dynastic Hero
Exile: Wicked Phenomenon (will just need the outer slip but if you had the whole thing let's talk)
Loom (would need a manual as mine has writing in it and other damage)
Syd Mead's Terra Forming
who wants to start?
Hopefully no one, if there isn't anything relevant to post anyways. [-X
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 08:08 AM... I do hope once I (more or less) finish collecting that I might be able to take part in the discussion of games I'd like to play.
this line is awesome.
Let me spend stupid amounts of money on boxes, books, and games, and THEN maybe i can talk about what i want to play.
this is like driving to the finish line of a marathon and THEN talking about how you would like to run one someday.
much respect, bruh.
Well here's the thing, most people on the planet care about aesthetic to some extent. Be it how their home looks, their lawn, their car, their lover, or whatever. I buy my games with the primary intent being to play them (which is why I don't buy sealed titles unless they are equal value), but I also like to display them and create an environment I deem cool to be in while doing so. I did admittedly try starting the TG16 collecting by just doing the normal cases, but a nice (and demonic) individual sold me about 20 boxed ones and from there, the itch stuck. I'm not sure why people here often try to penalize others for that preference, as it basically comes off as a loser in a small club trying to push away as many people as they can out of spite sort of mentality.
This is where I play primarily, please note that every system is not only hooked up, but modified and all tunneled using ideal equipment to get the least amount of lag, the best sound and picture quality, and ease of use, at least that to what my knowledge could muster anyways. The primary intent for *me* is to play them, I don't just have a big room filled with boxed games hording them off from the planet while I laugh maniacally. However in a subforum about buying things, then yes, the idea of playing them falls to the side, strange right?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/goldenpp72/Mobile%20Uploads/20160220_141525_zpscmr9en4w.jpg)
But then I look right and see this.
/lh3.googleusercontent.com/lost
I'm sorry if you find my choices in life suspect, be it because I enjoy playing these titles or because I prefer storing them in a nice method of display, but I also don't really care to hear the complaints of people who want to give me life advice with money. If you've never bought a nice looking car or ate at a nice fancy place, or vacationed somewhere just to see awesome sights, then sure, otherwise it would seem pretty hypocritical to dogpile on people who both adore the games on this platform, but also like to have them displayed.
I'm not saying i'm right, or the best, or anything, but if you want to split hairs one could argue there are much more efficient ways to play most of these games than on their original hardware, so I suppose anyone who has the console, or the cards, or anything is problematic by some logic? Not mine obviously.
This post was hopefully to diffuse the often dogpile mentality this seems to drag in, in reality I don't care a lot, and in the end the people who do have the stuff and want to sell will still get their money, hopefully that doesn't keep you awake at night. Just because you try to silence other sides doesn't mean they go away, I guess i'm not sure the end goal in trying to drive away a sect of enthusiast at this point in the game.
lol, wut?
that one lone, red master system case looks horrible.
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Why do you play your games on a giant hdmi tv? Probably in 16:9.
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Quote from: guest on 06/06/2016, 03:34 PMBooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Why do you play your games on a giant hdmi tv? Probably in 16:9.
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
because everything is at the top audio/video quality. some forum told him to buy one.
I think it was nintendoage.
OR
he went to a store and said "I need a TV for 20+ year old consoles"
clerk said, "I have this one. It comes with box and papers. Even warranty card"
"SOLD!"
Quote from: gynt on 06/06/2016, 03:40 PMQuote from: guest on 06/06/2016, 03:34 PMBooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Why do you play your games on a giant hdmi tv? Probably in 16:9.
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
because everything is at the top audio/video quality. some forum told him to buy one.
I think it was nintendoage.
Oh gold plated hdmi cables?
What type/brand of shelving is that?
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 03:04 PM/googleusercontent.com/lost
Quote from: guest on 06/06/2016, 03:34 PMBooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Why do you play your games on a giant hdmi tv? Probably in 16:9.
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I use a framemeister upscaler which upscales TG titles very well, the Turbo duo is modified to output in Scart and then lead into the upscaler, and no, they are played in 4:3 aspect ratio. The upscaler introduces a minor lag, but due to the fact it then outputs in a native resolution the TV doesn't need to upscale, also removes lag the TV would have otherwise introduced. That particular panel is also a very low latency panel. As for why I use an HDTV, it's because the shelf life of older tube tvs is growing shorter and the ability to repair them more limited. I have a side setup with a tube tv as well with consoles hooked up to it, but it is primarily for Light gun shooters, pictured here:
/googleusercontent.com/lost
Crazy right, almost as if someone can rationally explain something without being a jerk about it. At least in my area, TV repair shops are all but dead and buried, and the market for decent tube tvs is drying up as well, I have a few spares, but don't want to bet my entire setup on them not breaking if that makes sense.
Quote from: guest on 06/06/2016, 03:42 PMWhat type/brand of shelving is that?
I'm not sure if you're genuinely inquiring or not, but i'll answer politely just in case. These particular bookshelves are sold at Ikea and are branded as just Billy if I recall. They are nice because despite the simple look are actually incredibly durable (in that you can double layer tons of stuff on it, they won't bow). Aside from that, the store sells additional shelving so you can add as much or little shelving per unit as you like. While i'm somewhat handy, I did not want to put up the shelving for as much stuff as I have (what I showed here was only a really small piece)
I hook my laptop up to my lcd tv to play emulators and get the same result without being a collectard.
If you're going to play the genuine thing, actually play the genuine thing. Which you can do through Turbo Everdrive and CD-Rs.
Quote from: Gentlegamer on 06/06/2016, 03:50 PMI hook my laptop up to my lcd tv to play emulators and get the same result without being a collectard.
If you're going to play the genuine thing, actually play the genuine thing. Which you can do through Turbo Everdrive and CD-Rs.
Emulation is certainly a very efficient and viable option for those who like to keep their setups lean and efficient, they are however not the same feeling as playing on authentic hardware. Though I am ignorant to how advanced TG emulation is, typically, emulation has issues with graphical glitches, sound issues, compatibility problems, or simply being outright wrong in their timing. I consider emulation to be a nice way to experience something but not typically the preferred way. I respect people who keep it minimal and simple as well, and don't consider you a.. Non collectard I guess. This is of course ignoring the entire legality of that method as well, but again, it's not my life or concern.
Kinda makes me wonder if there is a sect of collectors who considers non collectors retards, heh.
So I take it no one has what the OP is looking for.
Also to the OP:
1) nice set up. I enjoy seeing a well maintained gaming set up. Granted the neon lights would hurt my eyes if I tried to game in such a dark dimly light area. But also I guess I might just be old now a days.
2) jump in on the discussion! This forum host great monthly threads on various turbo games for members to play or even re-play and talk about their experiences during the month said game is being played as a community.
We are not talking about another best or top what ever list. Just enjoy your games and throw your two cents around like its a whole dollar.
3) you know how this group is. They will respect you more if you give them a jab back then just taking the harassment. Not saying to be a dick in your response but throw a well timed joke back at the peanut crowd.
And FINALY
4) yo-momma.
Yeah. I went there. Do your worst !
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 03:04 PMI'm not sure why people here often try to penalize others for that preference, as it basically comes off as a loser in a small club trying to push away as many people as they can out of spite sort of mentality.
Did you even bother to read gynt's post and the specific sentence he quoted? He was mocking your outright refusal to discuss games until after you've bought every single title, not your decision to buy 'em all (boxed or otherwise). Honestly, you come off sounding like just another leech looking to score some sweet deals while not contributing a damn thing to the community.
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 03:04 PMI also don't really care to hear the complaints of people who want to give me life advice with money.
Tough. This isn't a one way street, especially not after you opened the thread by calling us out as a bunch of jerks and spewing a bunch of other crap that had little to do with buying games.
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 06/06/2016, 04:10 PMSo I take it no one has what the OP is looking for.
Also to the OP:
1) nice set up. I enjoy seeing a well maintained gaming set up. Granted the neon lights would hurt my eyes if I tried to game in such a dark dimly light area. But also I guess I might just be old now a days.
2) jump in on the discussion! This forum host great monthly threads on various turbo games for members to play or even re-play and talk about their experiences during the month said game is being played as a community.
We are not talking about another best or top what ever list. Just enjoy your games and throw your two cents around like its a whole dollar.
3) you know how this group is. They will respect you more if you give them a jab back then just taking the harassment. Not saying to be a dick in your response but throw a well timed joke back at the peanut crowd.
And FINALY
4) yo-momma.
Yeah. I went there. Do your worst !
I agree, actually the photos were taken just for the sake of display, usually the lights are either dimmed or off, but if you've ever tried to photo lights you probably know it can be a bit sketchy. Definitely more of a show off/display aspect rather than practical. In fact, I believe on the CRT display area the lights actually interfered with the light guns when put bright, heh. As for mingling more, I mingle a bit on other forums, especially when I do get around to trying the stuff, unfortunately my reception here hasn't always been warm so, rather than fight constantly it's sometimes easier to just handle your business ya know?
There are some cool people here as I do lurk some, I guess i've just never seen a forum that cultivated a section of people who are literally angry about someone who collects something, the only rational reason I could see for it would be the raising expenses of it, but then that would imply they also would like to have it and can't because of price, making them collectards as well, I think?
Personally, I know some people who collect sealed and nothing more, they stuff the games on a shelf or in a tote and then leave them alone forever, I personally don't like that behavior as I believe it contradicts the entire spirit of the hobby (which is to play) but I guess I also see it as irrelevant to judge what others do. Some want a big closet of collectibles, some want nothing and just a lean setup, and others want a big elaborate setup filled with options, live and let live, I mean damn, I can overlook people who care about the amount of screws are in their cartridge vs another version, so I guess the idea of wanting a display box doesn't seem too crazy to me :p
Quote from: guest on 06/06/2016, 04:15 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 03:04 PMI'm not sure why people here often try to penalize others for that preference, as it basically comes off as a loser in a small club trying to push away as many people as they can out of spite sort of mentality.
Did you even bother to read gynt's post and the specific sentence he quoted? He was mocking your outright refusal to discuss games until after you've bought every single title, not your decision to buy 'em all (boxed or otherwise). Honestly, you come off sounding like just another leech looking to score some sweet deals while not contributing a damn thing to the community.
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 03:04 PMI also don't really care to hear the complaints of people who want to give me life advice with money.
Tough. This isn't a one way street, especially not after you opened the thread by calling us out as a bunch of jerks and spewing a bunch of other crap that had little to do with buying games.
I've beaten something like 6 or 7 of my TG16 titles up to this point (mind you that I only recently was able to both obtain and hook it up), if you look in the picture, you'll see I not only do not have a ton of TG16 stuff yet, but also do have a lot of other stuff that I do play, including modern games, along with doing other not game related things of course, like working, having a relationship, and other sorts of things people do. My primary purpose to coming to this forum was to find resources, information and of course to gather up the stuff I wanted. Also keep in mind, I only collect what I want to play, there are many TG games I ignore because it's not my genre or taste, no matter the deal.
Also, I do not think i've ever scored anything i'd call a deal on a forum ever, at best a minor discount due to lack of eBay fees and bulk purchase, but I haven't (to my knowledge) taken advantage of any 'sweet deals', in fact I would say this system has been the entire opposite of what one could define as a sweet deal.
In the end, if a person comes here looking to gain information, buy, sell, or whatever, and ends up being captivated by the members good sense of humor, enthusiasm, knowledge or whatever it is that brings us into the fold of a niche hobby like this, that is usually enough to help cultivate a healthy mentality to which people want to partake. If you have a chip on your shoulder and basically want to tell someone to go die in a fire, then yes, they are less likely to want to talk to you.
Part of the problem is likely that while I do love this system (it's basically the hidden city of my favorite generation ever) I do have a broad range of taste, and spread them out as my time can allow. I can't be extreme on every spectrum, and especially so when half of the forum (or more) will dogpile you the moment you mention you own cardboard.
ahg I'm not reading all that. Storino is that you? Btw enter me in this raffle and PM sent
Goldenpp72:
If you play some games, even non-PCE, and discuss your thoughts on them...you will become part of this community.
Otherwise, you may have a difficult time because, whether fairly or not, you will seen as someone with misplaced priorities.
Personally, I understand the fetish for the original boxes (obviously, not everyone agrees with me). If I could have all the boxes, I would love it.
Anyway...as I am sure you realized, this community/forum will rarely glorify lionize collecting unto itself (although the TITANIC thread about recently purchased games suggests otherwise)...
You have been warned. :)
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 04:17 PMMy primary purpose to coming to this forum was to find resources, information and of course to gather up the stuff I wanted.
This sums it all up. Who mentioned leech? [emoji19]
Quote from: guest on 06/06/2016, 05:19 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 04:17 PMMy primary purpose to coming to this forum was to find resources, information and of course to gather up the stuff I wanted.
This sums it all up. Who mentioned leech? [emoji19]
Why else would people come to an enthusiast forum? To not gather info and resources? Perhaps a forum about not learning?
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 08:08 AMand yesterday got into contact with another user and bought something like 3600 dollars of games from him.
Which user?
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 05:48 PMQuote from: guest on 06/06/2016, 05:19 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 04:17 PMMy primary purpose to coming to this forum was to find resources, information and of course to gather up the stuff I wanted.
This sums it all up. Who mentioned leech? [emoji19]
Why else would people come to an enthusiast forum? To not gather info and resources? Perhaps a forum about not learning?
I guess when you say.... I mingle on other forums, but I joined here to drain you of resources and the stuff I need.... It doesn't come across well.
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 06/06/2016, 05:49 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 08:08 AMand yesterday got into contact with another user and bought something like 3600 dollars of games from him.
Which user?
(https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/tron/images/9/9c/Flynnuser.png)
I'm not sure why the user who sold me the goods would matter, since the culture here is confusing I would definitely not reveal who i'm dealing with, especially if they would be mistreated for whatever reason. If he (or she) chose to do so, then they can of course.
Anyways after this post i'm going to try and let this topic play whatever it's natural course is without my intervention, i've said my piece clearly no matter how people like to interpret it. while it would be nice for us all to get along it's very clear certain sorts of enthusiast are simply not welcome by a lot of the posters here. Though I appreciate a few of the kind words and advice shared here as well, you have to realize you're a small voice in a big crowd of people who will tell you you're dumb for collecting at all (emulation yes!), or you're dumb for collecting boxes, but other stuff is OK, or other various perspectives. It accumulates a single sort of venomous hive mind, despite the perspectives that get to that point being different, creating a confusing climate.
As an example of why this dynamic doesn't work, most people find enthusiast forums by suggestion and networking, in my case, a user on another forum advised me to come here to do exactly as I've tried to do, to learn, collect, and understand what the system was all about, in my case to further my experiences in the gaming sphere and witness a console that was kind of a massive gem that few saw.
In order to foster a user to want to stick around and converse with everyone, such as I do on the age line of forums or forums like gaf, etc, it requires the community to be something beyond the initial hook of the site. Most of these enthusiast forums have an infectious and fun community that is excited to see others becoming interested in their hobby. I had came here hoping to find the same sort of enthusiasm for a system i'm still learning about, but unfortunately instead get a bunch of angry people who for some reason take issue between what adults do with their goods and cash, despite supposedly not even caring about said goods (so if boxes are bad, don't worry what the dumb collectors do with them, I guess?)
What that really means is that no matter what a user like me does to partake in the community, a large portion of people will hate that you do what you do, which is total nonsense and an incredibly isolated cult like mentality. I do wish the forum was more accepting as it does narrow out places I can share my growing enthusiasm for the system with, but it is what it is. This system has an unfortunate lack of exposure on other sites, but any time i've dabbled my toes here to conduct business, it basically becomes a mob justice event over cardboard.
Hopefully when i'm able to dabble more into the lineup, I can take part in different discussions and not have someone bring up that I do indeed have boxes for these titles.
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see, the thing is, its hard for people to get on board with the "insta-tard". buying everything, THEN wanting to learn about it. you spent 3600 on a bunch of games you know nothing about? resources are tight, man. its a shrinking supply out there.
you mentioned a couple times that you came here to "conduct business"? i will just leave statement as it is.
lastly, you mentioned someplace about not owning sealed unless it has "same value". not sure what that means or why it matters. you are getting too hung up in the fake "market" it sounds like.
Have you played settlers 2 for DOS? It's pretty good.
Come back to me when you've rung the evil bell.
Users, here's a tour of my game room, checkout the purple lights
http://youtu.be/v4ZmHyqTU_0
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 03:50 PMQuote from: guest on 06/06/2016, 03:34 PMBooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Why do you play your games on a giant hdmi tv? Probably in 16:9.
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I use a framemeister upscaler which upscales TG titles very well, the Turbo duo is modified to output in Scart and then lead into the upscaler, and no, they are played in 4:3 aspect ratio. The upscaler introduces a minor lag, but due to the fact it then outputs in a native resolution the TV doesn't need to upscale, also removes lag the TV would have otherwise introduced. That particular panel is also a very low latency panel. As for why I use an HDTV, it's because the shelf life of older tube tvs is growing shorter and the ability to repair them more limited. I have a side setup with a tube tv as well with consoles hooked up to it, but it is primarily for Light gun shooters, pictured here:
/lost
Crazy right, almost as if someone can rationally explain something without being a jerk about it. At least in my area, TV repair shops are all but dead and buried, and the market for decent tube tvs is drying up as well, I have a few spares, but don't want to bet my entire setup on them not breaking if that makes sense.
Quote from: guest on 06/06/2016, 03:42 PMWhat type/brand of shelving is that?
I'm not sure if you're genuinely inquiring or not, but i'll answer politely just in case. These particular bookshelves are sold at Ikea and are branded as just Billy if I recall. They are nice because despite the simple look are actually incredibly durable (in that you can double layer tons of stuff on it, they won't bow). Aside from that, the store sells additional shelving so you can add as much or little shelving per unit as you like. While i'm somewhat handy, I did not want to put up the shelving for as much stuff as I have (what I showed here was only a really small piece)
I bet your shelves would buckle if you put a nice CRT and a Laseractive on there. I know every time I put my hand under my shelves it is at risk of collapse.
Quote from: Otaking on 06/06/2016, 07:01 PMUsers here's a tour of my game room, checkout the purple lights
http://youtu.be/v4ZmHyqTU_0
This is discriminatory towards user TR0N. Please delete post [emoji14]
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 05:48 PMQuote from: guest on 06/06/2016, 05:19 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 04:17 PMMy primary purpose to coming to this forum was to find resources, information and of course to gather up the stuff I wanted.
This sums it all up. Who mentioned leech? [emoji19]
Why else would people come to an enthusiast forum? To not gather info and resources? Perhaps a forum about not learning?
To contribute, interact and share your experiences.
"Enthusiast" is a meaningless word without the associated interest. As has been pointed out to you since you got here, this is primarily a game enthusiast forum. Most people here appreciate all aspects of the Turbo/PCE world, but market/hoarding/hunting/profiting enthusiasm is limited to a handful of regulars.
Besides bragging, so far the only thing you've talked about wanting to contribute is cash for goods and buying Turbo games as fast as you can, while playing them insignificantly by comparison. That's fine, but why play dumb about all the attention (good or bad) you actively seek out from a game enthusiast forum? Why not just embrace your unashamed trolling?
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 03:50 PMI'm not sure if you're genuinely inquiring or not, but i'll answer politely just in case. These particular bookshelves are sold at Ikea and are branded as just Billy if I recall. They are nice because despite the simple look are actually incredibly durable (in that you can double layer tons of stuff on it, they won't bow). Aside from that, the store sells additional shelving so you can add as much or little shelving per unit as you like. While i'm somewhat handy, I did not want to put up the shelving for as much stuff as I have (what I showed here was only a really small piece)
Thanks, I was actually curious. I was looking at the "Billy" shelving the other week on their site, I am in the market for new shelving for my gameroom!
Quote from: TheClash603 on 06/06/2016, 07:30 PMI bet your shelves would buckle if you put a nice CRT and a Laseractive on there. I know every time I put my hand under my shelves it is at risk of collapse.
A risk one should be willing to take to play on a CRT.
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 06/06/2016, 05:49 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 08:08 AMand yesterday got into contact with another user and bought something like 3600 dollars of games from him.
Which user?
Me
Goldenpp72:
www.collectard.com
Quote from: guest on 06/06/2016, 09:05 PMQuote from: HailingTheThings on 06/06/2016, 05:49 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 08:08 AMand yesterday got into contact with another user and bought something like 3600 dollars of games from him.
Which user?
Me
Joking, I'm sure?
I wasn't gonna "Go after" said seller, just was curious. Thought maybe madboom resurfaced? I used to buy stuff from him sometimes, then after his whole "repro map mishap," he disappeared. Haven't heard from him. I thought maybe he killed himself.
I know a lot of people hate him now because of that whole thing that happened and stuff, but for a time he was pretty helpful to me and used to give me "deals" on some stuff. I know I wouldn't have a CIC Bonk 3 HuCARD if it wasn't for that shadow walker.
*sigh*
I feel at times that I miss more people than others have had the chance to know...
penispenispenis
(https://i.imgur.com/0NoQhy4.jpg)
I don't see any harm in somebody wanted to complete their collection. He gets enjoyment out of it, whatever his reasons may be. The Turbografx is expensive because it is hard stuff to find, and it is probably the best failed system to have ever existed. It's not some conspiracy about people who are buying up all the games and screwing over the "real fans".
I honestly think its a bit sad that he is simply asking for the games he needs, and gets so much negativity. I also don't think he needs to justify it like he has.
Some of this negativity towards collecting comes off as jealousy to me.
Quote from: gatsu25 on 06/07/2016, 05:10 AMI don't see any harm in somebody wanted to complete their collection. He gets enjoyment out of it, whatever his reasons may be. The Turbografx is expensive because it is hard stuff to find, and it is probably the best failed system to have ever existed. It's not some conspiracy about people who are buying up all the games and screwing over the "real fans".
I honestly think its a bit sad that he is simply asking for the games he needs, and gets so much negativity. I also don't think he needs to justify it like he has.
Some of this negativity towards collecting comes off as jealousy to me.
We don't know who he is, and he clearly hasn't taken the the time to get to know this forum.
Surely you understand that it takes time and effort to organically build relationships.
Tact (and an awareness of one's social surroundings) are still important, even in a forum.
:)
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 06/07/2016, 01:05 AMpenispenispenis
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Nope, no bullshit. I have way too many things that just sit on shelves and don't get enjoyed.
Quote from: esteban on 06/07/2016, 07:55 AMWe don't know who he is, and he clearly hasn't taken the the time to get to know this forum.
Surely you understand that it takes time and effort to organically build relationships.
Tact (and an awareness of one's social surroundings) are still important, even in a forum.
:)
Kinda like pissing on everyone that comes to this place that just wants to buy some games?
Quote from: guest on 06/07/2016, 08:20 AMQuote from: esteban on 06/07/2016, 07:55 AMWe don't know who he is, and he clearly hasn't taken the the time to get to know this forum.
Surely you understand that it takes time and effort to organically build relationships.
Tact (and an awareness of one's social surroundings) are still important, even in a forum.
:)
Kinda like pissing on everyone that comes to this place that just wants to buy some games?
NEWS FLASH: We are NOT a merchant. We have no obligation to "serve customers" and no mantra that "the customer is always right".
You do understand that TREATING THIS FORUM AS MERELY A MARKETPLACE is fundamentally misunderstanding *everything* and therefore rude/tactless/offensive.
Thank you :)
To the extent that we have a marketplace, it is a courtesy for members here.
Folks who do not understand this can certainly go to other venues (where other sellers will gladly take their money).
I personally think it's absolutely fine to want boxed complete games or even go for a complete set.
But as I've said before I think there should be an enforced post count requirement before you can access/view the trades (buy and sell) sections of the forum. This restriction is in place on most of the other forums I go on.
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I also think this place would be generally much, much more busy if you restricted access to the trades forums. I honestly think 95% of new members that join, do so to check the trades section and look for a "sweet deal". If these new members had to make 100 posts before they could see the trades sections, by the time they hit a 100 posts they would become invested in forum conversations and following forum topics and become a regular member.
EDIT:
There was a forum poll that ended in favour of a restriction but the restriction was never implemented.
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=19974.0 (https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=19974.0)
Quote from: esteban on 06/07/2016, 08:35 AMNEWS FLASH: We are NOT a merchant. We have no obligation to "serve customers" and no mantra that "the customer is always right".
You do understand that TREATING THIS FORUM AS MERELY A MARKETPLACE is fundamentally misunderstanding *everything* and therefore rude/tactless/offensive.
Thank you :)
To the extent that we have a marketplace, it is a courtesy for members here.
Folks who do not understand this can certainly go to other venues (where other sellers will gladly take their money).
Talk about missing the point completely... Why would this guy even want to "get to know the community" when everyone here acts like an elitist asshole...
Quote from: guest on 06/07/2016, 09:51 AMWhy would this guy even want to "get to know the community" when everyone here acts like an elitist asshole...
Because we are elitist assholes, and for good reason. Why help someone that wants stuff to complete his collection and then disappear. Some things on the list he has but wants to replace cause of "writing" is kinda silly. There's so much that's been given on these forums over the years only to have it abused. It gets tiring. New members and new turbo players really aren't ever going to understand the frustration.
I like how he spent $3,600 in one pop and still needs most of the rares.
#collectardfails
i could honestly care less about what he "wants", its just lulz to poke fun.
the problem is the "insta-tard" of wanting to buy everything before he even plays or wants to talk about it.
WTB 15 COMPLETE games, "rarer" stuff.
I mean, come on, the title was begging for this.
his next thread will be "WTB: Riot Zone, must include outer box"
Wait a few days and find him posting on other forums (probably nintendoage) about how we're all a bunch of assholes.
Quote from: geise on 06/07/2016, 10:36 AMWait a few days and find him posting on other forums (probably nintendoage) about how we're all a bunch of assholes.
I have a no PC-FX stance when I am on Grinder, but that is simply because of the way you look. Your personalities are phenomenal.
Quote from: geise on 06/07/2016, 10:36 AMWait a few days and find him posting on other forums (probably nintendoage) about how we're all a bunch of assholes.
Once again.
Until he eventually comes back for more shopping.
I don't understand why people come on here and are so annoyed by how this forum is. This is not nintendoage so you shouldn't try and act like nintendoage here. It's just seems like common courtesy that when you join a new group you learn the way the group is. Then if you don't like it move on. Trying to impose your ways is just not going to work.
I really like this forum and the people who come in here and contribute are treated fairly even when they are noobs and I have seen it. The ones that just come on here and try to buy stuff without even introducing themselves are the annoying ones.
You are right on the money. You get it. A lot of newer users don't. Every forum has their do's and don't's. I would say we are pretty lax around here, just not with gimme gimme check my collection stuff. We all collect to some degree. It's honestly how people go about acquiring stuff that gets them called out. Especially the instant collection guys.
It amazes me that so many of you think the sole (or even primary) reason anyone said anything negative was because he wants boxes. Other than pp bringing it up repeatedly and people defending buying boxes, it was brought up but once. Once! Even then it was in passing and part of a greater message, hardly the equivalent of 'only assholes buy boxes'. The fact of the matter is that pp started the thread with 'I know you're all assholes but gimme, gimme, GIMME!' and a refusal to discuss games until he owns them all, yet you wonder why he's getting grief?!? Truly amazing.
You geniuses can assert we hate collectors because we're jealous, poor, etc., but you're just demonstrating ignorance and/or bias. Some of the largest, coolest, most impressive collections I know of are owned by fellow members (i.e. Henry, Black Tiger, Shubi, Superplay, Dan, Bardo, Runinruder, and Tatsu) and several members own many boxes (such as Henry, nully, haboobi, or even myself), yet nobody hates them for being collectors. Wanna know why? It's easy: they're not leeches.
P.S. - Can y'all stop getting your panties in a twist over the 'collectard' moniker? It's been used to describe pretty much everyone here for one reason or another, and no intelligent person can argue that what many of us are doing is logical or wise. Seriously, don't you have to be a bit daft to own an LA, collect cardboard and even buy repros, assemble complete system sets, or enjoy Hatris?
Quote from: guest on 06/07/2016, 04:31 PMSeriously, don't you have to be a bit daft to own an LA, collect cardboard and even buy repros, assemble complete system sets, or enjoy Hatris?
Probably just Hatris.
Quote from: guest on 06/07/2016, 08:19 AMNope, no bullshit. I have way too many things that just sit on shelves and don't get enjoyed.
Well, damn. Didn't realize you had that much stuff that you weren't caressing, old friend. I'm sorry. I still love you, but it saddens me that you would let go of so much adorable OBEY, assuming the bulk of the $3,000+ spent by customer-guy was in fact as such.
I believe we need to embrace again, soon.
Thinking of you,
Hails
<3
Guess i'll respond with a few more things, I hadn't seen that the topic had grown quite a bit but the topic was still serving it's purpose I suppose, but it's early and I had time to read it through, though i'll likely not recall it all. Still i'll address some stuff. I do appreciate jelloslug at least validating our transaction, while i'm not sure what the original desire to expose the user was, it at least helps to not make me look like a liar of some sort :P
For a lot of the other post, a lot of you are right, but you also look at it the wrong way. I'll throw some background out that i'm sure someone will simplify as 'lol collectard omg' and move along, but hey, why not.
I'm a collector, yes it's true. I started about 10 years ago over one moment. My fiancee had missed the entire 8 bit and 16 bit generation, and I was trying to find some mutual fun things for us to share our time with. I purchased a Snes and a copy or Kirby Super Star, we completed the game and had a lot of fun doing so. I had bought the game complete for about 30 bucks as well. That same title can sell near the 100 range nowadays, to help put into perspective the motivation to try and get this over with. I consider the collecting aspect the burden, with the end result being to play the stuff on the original hardware and have the most authentic, but quality experience I could come up with.
When I first began, things were cheaper, sellers were looser and in general it was a lot easier to deal with, it only took about 5 years for me to begin regretting going for complete titles because of the way pricing was jacking up so much, but when you get that far into something, it becomes difficult for some of us to back away and call it quits, even if it takes out a lot more money than expected. However, the urge for me to complete my various system collections comes from the desire to get it over with in the event the cost continue to rise, I do not want even more games to reach a prohibitive point that I can no longer ever afford to purchase them (as many have)
In the end there are many kind of collectors, with the only mutual shared aspect being that they are collecting something. In my case, the definition of a collection has altered itself a lot over a decade, my entire game area is quite large and has a lot of things to display, it's designed to basically be a monument to the hobby both visually, but also in terms of the ability to play everything. A lot of work went into wiring everything and placing seating everywhere or ensuring there is enough space to play on all the sorts of the stuff that has released.
This is a hobby that I took on because I play them, if the day ever comes I don't want to play them, i'd offload the whole area and never look back. While I like the display aspect, I don't personally see why i'd want to display anything when I'd not care to actually use it. This is also something I take part in with my would be wife, and yes, even in social settings we have managed to gather people to play Saturn Bomberman or Four Swords on the Gamecube, light gun shooters, etc.
In the end, I think the big issue here is that I came here with one primary goal right now, which was to learn about the system and to learn the trappings to look out for when buying games for it. However, while I came here to collect, I'd also come here to play when I'm able to allocate more time to doing it. It's true I spend a lot of time collecting which is a lot less time I can use for the playing aspect, but if I spend too much time playing and not buying, suddenly that game I thought was 30 bucks is now 100 bucks, and that creates a lot of issues for me as i'm not a rich guy, this stuff takes a long time for me to save money for.
When I do decide to binge on these games, this is the only dedicated TG community i've ever seen, so it would likely be the place i'd want to share my thoughts with too (as I do on plenty of sites). The main issue I guess is that I came here as a collector first hoping to eventually take part in the normal discussion, but I guess the damage there is done regardless. In any event, I collect for both play and montage, however I don't appreciate the accusation that I just buy haphazardly and have no idea what's coming my way, every title I buy has had plenty of research done, reviews, videos, and at times a test drive via emulator if something is really unsure (or expensive). If it's something i'd really love to play I increase my likelihood of shelling out the value for it, it's all very much curated to my own taste.
When I worked with jello, he had a whole list of stuff I hadn't look into yet, alongside the stuff I did want, I spent time looking into video footage and reviews of a lot of stuff, not realizing for example that the tennis game had a unique looking rpg lite mode, and things like that fueled my purchase. If I never wanted to try it, i'd not be buying it. I'm sure the reasons each of you come to the conclusion for disliking collectors is different, and I personally don't care for most collectors as I feel they miss the spirit of the hobby (which is playing, kind of counter productive when you won't open your game), but I guess it's their money to do with as they please.
I doubt this post will help much but, well it's early and i'm the only one awake, so enjoy I guess :p
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Quote from: gynt on 06/07/2016, 10:27 AMi could honestly care less about what he "wants", its just lulz to poke fun.
the problem is the "insta-tard" of wanting to buy everything before he even plays or wants to talk about it.
WTB 15 COMPLETE games, "rarer" stuff.
I mean, come on, the title was begging for this.
his next thread will be "WTB: Riot Zone, must include outer box"
Way ahead of ya buddy, thanks for the support in this topic!
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As has been said before, for the most part the people on this forum are or were collectors ourselves.
If you had 200 posts under your belt and requested those same 15 games I guarantee you would not have been flamed. I honestly think what gets people pissed on here is if a new member comes straight on here and heads straight for the trades section and starts a "WTB" thread, particularly requesting the rarez, it's a guaranteed flaming. Intergrate with the community first, get your post count up with valid posts, then think about checking the trades section.
That's a fair criticism, and I apologize for not trying to mingle with the community more or rather, feeling out the dynamic of the forum a bit more. I do post on a lot of places but this one is definitely unique, as i'm sure many are aware. At this point I can kind of see some of the pattern, as in reality I doubt anyone would care if you collect if the games weren't becoming cost prohibitive.
TBH I think it's unfair on new members, the way it's currently set up they're dangled a "carrot and the stick" and then flamed. That's the whole reason I've always advocated a trades forum restriction until you've reached a certain post count.
I must say though, one positive part to all the flaming is this forum is very different to NintendoAge, it drives away people who have a NintendoAge type of mentality.
Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 04/28/2016, 06:31 PM(Actually, my favorite is when some of the regulars make noobs jump through hoops to *prove* they are worthy of buying, despite not actually having anything for sale that the noob wants to buy.) ...
Interestingly, we are seeing a shift to where the WTB posts are getting ignored, at least, instead of the standard dog and pony show.
Good to see things are back to normal.
Also, gynt is a total hypocrite, as if you invite him into your home, he'll treat it like his personal shopping center. He'll offer you large sums of money for your games, and then insult you if you don't take it. Such a hospitable guest.
FIVE BILLS.
Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 06/08/2016, 01:44 PMQuote from: DildoKKKobold on 04/28/2016, 06:31 PM(Actually, my favorite is when some of the regulars make noobs jump through hoops to *prove* they are worthy of buying, despite not actually having anything for sale that the noob wants to buy.) ...
Interestingly, we are seeing a shift to where the WTB posts are getting ignored, at least, instead of the standard dog and pony show.
Good to see things are back to normal.
Also, gynt is a total hypocrite, as if you invite him into your home, he'll treat it like his personal shopping center. He'll offer you large sums of money for your games, and then insult you if you don't take it. Such a hospitable guest.
FIVE BILLS.
Oh, do tell ;)
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And yeah, I basically have to agree with Otaking. I think I was browsing threads for a couple months before I ever attempted to buy anything (though I did ask for a Sapphire boot) and maybe that helped. I also mainly play/collect PCE so that could have something to do with it.
I'm sure lots of folks that come in and ask to buy rarer stuff really are interested in the system and want to play games, but it feels a bit demeaning to the whole community when people only come to you when they WANT something, but show no interest in you otherwise. Like the kid in elementary school that would only come over to your house to "play" and just play your Sega the whole time because all he had at home was a NES. (or similar)
Quote from: guest on 06/07/2016, 04:31 PMCan y'all stop getting your panties in a twist over the 'collectard' moniker?
I'm making one post in this thread, this is it. I can't find the time to shit on every collectard these days because the fuckers are crawling out of the sewers and getting accounts faster than I can flame them. Seriously, where are they coming from? Is the youth of today really this lost? Don't they still make motorcycles and rock music and chicks? I'm genuinly sad.
Anyway, fuck this guy, obviously. But also, fuck all of YOU too because what this guy wants more than anything is validation. Obviously his primary means of achieving this is burying himself in old video game crap which is worshipful to people who get mad about Ghostbusters and look at shrinkwrap under a microscope to try to understand it. But when that fails the length of this thread fills in some gaps by letting him be the self designated martyr/hero for the NA mentality. Just look at how long his responses are. He *needs* this criticism to keep him going. You're feeding his teeny weeny little underdeveloped homunculus five pages of collectard junk food.
My mum threw away my ecto mobile.
Truë storîe.
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/08/2016, 04:46 PMI'm making one post in this thread, this is it. I can't find the time to shit on every collectard these days because the fuckers are crawling out of the sewers and getting accounts faster than I can flame them. Seriously, where are they coming from? Is the youth of today really this lost? Don't they still make motorcycles and rock music and chicks? I'm genuinly sad.
Anyway, fuck this guy, obviously. But also, fuck all of YOU too because what this guy wants more than anything is validation. Obviously his primary means of achieving this is burying himself in old video game crap which is worshipful to people who get mad about Ghostbusters and look at shrinkwrap under a microscope to try to understand it. But when that fails the length of this thread fills in some gaps by letting him be the self designated martyr/hero for the NA mentality. Just look at how long his responses are. He *needs* this criticism to keep him going. You're feeding his teeny weeny little underdeveloped homunculus five pages of collectard junk food.
You must be a talented therapist if you think people desire criticism, heh. In reality, I just wanted people to PM me if they had the stuff I needed, but I knew the risk of course, as people can't help but try and meddle.
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/08/2016, 09:09 PMQuote from: SignOfZeta on 06/08/2016, 04:46 PMI'm making one post in this thread, this is it. I can't find the time to shit on every collectard these days because the fuckers are crawling out of the sewers and getting accounts faster than I can flame them. Seriously, where are they coming from? Is the youth of today really this lost? Don't they still make motorcycles and rock music and chicks? I'm genuinly sad.
Anyway, fuck this guy, obviously. But also, fuck all of YOU too because what this guy wants more than anything is validation. Obviously his primary means of achieving this is burying himself in old video game crap which is worshipful to people who get mad about Ghostbusters and look at shrinkwrap under a microscope to try to understand it. But when that fails the length of this thread fills in some gaps by letting him be the self designated martyr/hero for the NA mentality. Just look at how long his responses are. He *needs* this criticism to keep him going. You're feeding his teeny weeny little underdeveloped homunculus five pages of collectard junk food.
You must be a talented therapist if you think people desire criticism, heh. In reality, I just wanted people to PM me if they had the stuff I needed, but I knew the risk of course, as people can't help but try and meddle.
:)
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/08/2016, 09:09 PMQuote from: SignOfZeta on 06/08/2016, 04:46 PMI'm making one post in this thread, this is it. I can't find the time to shit on every collectard these days because the fuckers are crawling out of the sewers and getting accounts faster than I can flame them. Seriously, where are they coming from? Is the youth of today really this lost? Don't they still make motorcycles and rock music and chicks? I'm genuinly sad.
Anyway, fuck this guy, obviously. But also, fuck all of YOU too because what this guy wants more than anything is validation. Obviously his primary means of achieving this is burying himself in old video game crap which is worshipful to people who get mad about Ghostbusters and look at shrinkwrap under a microscope to try to understand it. But when that fails the length of this thread fills in some gaps by letting him be the self designated martyr/hero for the NA mentality. Just look at how long his responses are. He *needs* this criticism to keep him going. You're feeding his teeny weeny little underdeveloped homunculus five pages of collectard junk food.
You must be a talented therapist if you think people desire criticism, heh. In reality, I just wanted people to PM me if they had the stuff I needed, but I knew the risk of course, as people can't help but try and meddle.
Great response [emoji3] Occam's razor Zeta.
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/08/2016, 04:46 PMI'm making one post in this thread, this is it. I can't find the time to shit on every collectard these days because the fuckers are crawling out of the sewers and getting accounts faster than I can flame them. Seriously, where are they coming from? Is the youth of today really this lost? Don't they still make motorcycles and rock music and chicks? I'm genuinly sad.
Anyway, fuck this guy, obviously. But also, fuck all of YOU too because what this guy wants more than anything is validation. Obviously his primary means of achieving this is burying himself in old video game crap which is worshipful to people who get mad about Ghostbusters and look at shrinkwrap under a microscope to try to understand it. But when that fails the length of this thread fills in some gaps by letting him be the self designated martyr/hero for the NA mentality. Just look at how long his responses are. He *needs* this criticism to keep him going. You're feeding his teeny weeny little underdeveloped homunculus five pages of collectard junk food.
There are a lot of clouds that need your attention Zeta.
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Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/08/2016, 09:09 PMYou must be a talented therapist if you think people desire criticism, heh. In reality, I just wanted people to PM me if they had the stuff I needed, but I knew the risk of course, as people can't help but try and meddle.
I'm inclined to agree with zeta that you revel in the attention. If you didn't want it, you'd have locked the thread and dealt solely in PMs.
I enjoy some positive attention like any other, but no I don't revel in negative attention. My reason for responding is that i'm not the type to roll over in a one on one discussion, but do consider 20 people dog piling gang style to be a futile effort. I very much do not agree with the approach of some of the users here, and believe that if a person doesn't speak back, will continue to help fortify that individuals belief that they are 'correct'.
Of course, I operate more so in a live and let live world and accept most people for their nuance, however I would genuinely have preferred the topic to just be information, trades, and friendly banter rather than half of it being filled with venom. I'd rather someone comment that this game is super fun than to hope my family dies. If someone comes and says hey, I prefer emulation and don't want to spend money on physical items, I don't jump down their throat and preach about the legality and lack of authenticity, etc that such a method brings. I just understand we all do things for different reasons, and unless someone ask me for my specific thoughts on that subject, i'll just accept you're not me :wink:
Thankfully, I have had a few nice discussions either privately, or some kinder words thrown my way by others, so I don't consider it entirely toxic, just more so than i'm used to. I certainly don't live in a world where i'd prefer to be hated than liked, and I seriously doubt almost anyone would think that way. Of course, I don't really care about the feelings of people who would act that way at first contact, as I seriously doubt such behavior would be acceptable to them face to face, but the internet lets people bring out their true personality without fear of repercussion, as usual.
Just because you manage to scare off 'collectard assholes' or whatever by the dozens doesn't suddenly make you the majority voice, it just makes you the only ones still yelling. If this community is satisfied being reclusive and difficult to approach for people like me then I can't help that, but in the end i'm sure most of us deep down would rather all be friends, as long as our enthusiasm is rooted in the right place (with mine being to learn about and play these games, and to obtain all the ones I want asap to stem the bleeding it's causing my bank account)
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 12:14 PMI enjoy some positive attention like any other, but no I don't revel in negative attention. My reason for responding is that i'm not the type to roll over in a one on one discussion, but do consider 20 people dog piling gang style to be a futile effort. I very much do not agree with the approach of some of the users here, and believe that if a person doesn't speak back, will continue to help fortify that individuals belief that they are 'correct'.
Of course, I operate more so in a live and let live world and accept most people for their nuance, however I would genuinely have preferred the topic to just be information, trades, and friendly banter rather than half of it being filled with venom. I'd rather someone comment that this game is super fun than to hope my family dies. If someone comes and says hey, I prefer emulation and don't want to spend money on physical items, I don't jump down their throat and preach about the legality and lack of authenticity, etc that such a method brings. I just understand we all do things for different reasons, and unless someone ask me for my specific thoughts on that subject, i'll just accept you're not me :wink:
Thankfully, I have had a few nice discussions either privately, or some kinder words thrown my way by others, so I don't consider it entirely toxic, just more so than i'm used to. I certainly don't live in a world where i'd prefer to be hated than liked, and I seriously doubt almost anyone would think that way. Of course, I don't really care about the feelings of people who would act that way at first contact, as I seriously doubt such behavior would be acceptable to them face to face, but the internet lets people bring out their true personality without fear of repercussion, as usual.
Just because you manage to scare off 'collectard assholes' or whatever by the dozens doesn't suddenly make you the majority voice, it just makes you the only ones still yelling. If this community is satisfied being reclusive and difficult to approach for people like me then I can't help that, but in the end i'm sure most of us deep down would rather all be friends, as long as our enthusiasm is rooted in the right place (with mine being to learn about and play these games, and to obtain all the ones I want asap to stem the bleeding it's causing my bank account)
I like that you have responded civilly in this thread. I also don't mind reading posts that elaborate on your rationale/philosophy.
At the end of the day, it comes down to this: if you have a better understanding of this forum and its culture, then we are happy.
You may not agree with us, but at least you will understand our perspective.
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 12:14 PM(with mine being to learn about and play these games, and to obtain all the ones I want asap to stem the bleeding it's causing my bank account)
That's your own fault for dropping 3.6k on games right out the gate.
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 12:14 PMI enjoy some positive attention like any other, but no I don't revel in negative attention. My reason for responding is that i'm not the type to roll over in a one on one discussion, but do consider 20 people dog piling gang style to be a futile effort. I very much do not agree with the approach of some of the users here, and believe that if a person doesn't speak back, will continue to help fortify that individuals belief that they are 'correct'.
Of course, I operate more so in a live and let live world and accept most people for their nuance, however I would genuinely have preferred the topic to just be information, trades, and friendly banter rather than half of it being filled with venom. I'd rather someone comment that this game is super fun than to hope my family dies. If someone comes and says hey, I prefer emulation and don't want to spend money on physical items, I don't jump down their throat and preach about the legality and lack of authenticity, etc that such a method brings. I just understand we all do things for different reasons, and unless someone ask me for my specific thoughts on that subject, i'll just accept you're not me :wink:
Thankfully, I have had a few nice discussions either privately, or some kinder words thrown my way by others, so I don't consider it entirely toxic, just more so than i'm used to. I certainly don't live in a world where i'd prefer to be hated than liked, and I seriously doubt almost anyone would think that way. Of course, I don't really care about the feelings of people who would act that way at first contact, as I seriously doubt such behavior would be acceptable to them face to face, but the internet lets people bring out their true personality without fear of repercussion, as usual.
Just because you manage to scare off 'collectard assholes' or whatever by the dozens doesn't suddenly make you the majority voice, it just makes you the only ones still yelling. If this community is satisfied being reclusive and difficult to approach for people like me then I can't help that, but in the end i'm sure most of us deep down would rather all be friends, as long as our enthusiasm is rooted in the right place (with mine being to learn about and play these games, and to obtain all the ones I want asap to stem the bleeding it's causing my bank account)
2 points that people didn't take to you.
You are new. which we are always weary of newer members. Esp. after the millionth time getting a re-seller in here to just flip out good deals on fleabay. So its more dirty people than us honestly. Respect is earned, not given, and we don't hold your hand every time you get offended (You seem to be able to take one and not QQ Rage quit)
You came in here, wanting to buy up Rare games that some of our senior members are looking for, want them for a deal, and maybe only after that point did you want to talk about them. While you belly ache at Burning games, and actually finding games you enjoy, you just want to hoard and leech off the community.
My biggest issue is that if/when you fall out of your whole Turbo fab. Non of that Jello shit he sold you will make it back to here. It will go to fleabay, and more of the small amount of stuff is gone forevers.
I could give two shits if you have many games. or you collect them. My problem is the way you do it, and how you have not shown respect for the games, and how this community operates. You just wave money around and sit on your high horse. Buying shit in private and not talking to everyone here about anything Related or non related to Turbo.
Welcome to the Jungle,
~Ryan
Quote from: geise on 06/09/2016, 01:13 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 12:14 PM(with mine being to learn about and play these games, and to obtain all the ones I want asap to stem the bleeding it's causing my bank account)
That's your own fault for dropping 3.6k on games right out the gate.
That was hardly out of the gate to be fair, I first began playing on this system about a year ago and mostly found some stuff in random trades or of course eBay, and in fact the person I dealt with here was someone I got into contact with elsewhere and simply used this forum as a (quite appropriate) place to continue communication.
Plus, if I listed all the stuff I got, i'm sure most would agree the games are quite good, I'm not personally sure if the system has expensive bad games, but if it does, I have no desire to own them. This is something that I think does separate me from a lot of collectors, you have people wanting to spend 5k on a copy of cheetahman II, but i'd not want that in my presence, scarcity is only neat when it's applied to something I enjoy. Again, just me though.
Admittedly, I didn't get to dive into the system as much or as in depth as i'd like but, I do have a lot of things on my plate like most, and considering how much work it took just to.. Find a system that can play the supercd and turboCD titles, it's been by far the most prohibitive system i've ever encountered. It was thanks to a kind soul here that I was able to obtain a clean and functional, modded Turboduo though, but again, no one else seemed to be taking it off his hands, so I don't really see the harm in that.
If you're a seller looking to get (more or less) face value here, I would imagine you would be mocked and belittled for that as well, this is just my guess though, as I sense the higher price of some of these games seems to cause quite a bit of (admittedly logical) tension. Like most things in life, this is just a fluid hobby that you either have to try and catch the wave or get left behind, as much as people keep telling me some bubble is going to burst, each year I wait is more money i've lost not going for something sooner. It almost seems like some people would think it's smarter to buy one game at a time and just cross your fingers to find that other game again, as if TG16 games are just plentiful to find.. They're like diamonds, not literally worth their price, but demand will likely keep them pricey, so for those of us who really want to have them, we get bent over.
Quote from: 780racer on 06/09/2016, 01:55 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 12:14 PMI enjoy some positive attention like any other, but no I don't revel in negative attention. My reason for responding is that i'm not the type to roll over in a one on one discussion, but do consider 20 people dog piling gang style to be a futile effort. I very much do not agree with the approach of some of the users here, and believe that if a person doesn't speak back, will continue to help fortify that individuals belief that they are 'correct'.
Of course, I operate more so in a live and let live world and accept most people for their nuance, however I would genuinely have preferred the topic to just be information, trades, and friendly banter rather than half of it being filled with venom. I'd rather someone comment that this game is super fun than to hope my family dies. If someone comes and says hey, I prefer emulation and don't want to spend money on physical items, I don't jump down their throat and preach about the legality and lack of authenticity, etc that such a method brings. I just understand we all do things for different reasons, and unless someone ask me for my specific thoughts on that subject, i'll just accept you're not me :wink:
Thankfully, I have had a few nice discussions either privately, or some kinder words thrown my way by others, so I don't consider it entirely toxic, just more so than i'm used to. I certainly don't live in a world where i'd prefer to be hated than liked, and I seriously doubt almost anyone would think that way. Of course, I don't really care about the feelings of people who would act that way at first contact, as I seriously doubt such behavior would be acceptable to them face to face, but the internet lets people bring out their true personality without fear of repercussion, as usual.
Just because you manage to scare off 'collectard assholes' or whatever by the dozens doesn't suddenly make you the majority voice, it just makes you the only ones still yelling. If this community is satisfied being reclusive and difficult to approach for people like me then I can't help that, but in the end i'm sure most of us deep down would rather all be friends, as long as our enthusiasm is rooted in the right place (with mine being to learn about and play these games, and to obtain all the ones I want asap to stem the bleeding it's causing my bank account)
2 points that people didn't take to you.
You are new. which we are always weary of newer members. Esp. after the millionth time getting a re-seller in here to just flip out good deals on fleabay. So its more dirty people than us honestly. Respect is earned, not given, and we don't hold your hand every time you get offended (You seem to be able to take one and not QQ Rage quit)
You came in here, wanting to buy up Rare games that some of our senior members are looking for, want them for a deal, and maybe only after that point did you want to talk about them. While you belly ache at Burning games, and actually finding games you enjoy, you just want to hoard and leech off the community.
My biggest issue is that if/when you fall out of your whole Turbo fab. Non of that Jello shit he sold you will make it back to here. It will go to fleabay, and more of the small amount of stuff is gone forevers.
I could give two shits if you have many games. or you collect them. My problem is the way you do it, and how you have not shown respect for the games, and how this community operates. You just wave money around and sit on your high horse. Buying shit in private and not talking to everyone here about anything Related or non related to Turbo.
Welcome to the Jungle,
~Ryan
I do understand the mutual culture of giving deals and thus, distributing deals yourself, or goodwill as it is. With that being said, I have not really scored any sort of amazing deal using this forum, it really has been basically eBay(ish) pricing but with minor bulk/fee based discounts. I definitely would be down to sell them here but i'd not give them away just as they weren't given to me, you know?
Also, I do not plan to ever sell my collection unless I'm dying or become disabled. In fact, I've been in the process of determining who would inherit the stuff in the event of my death, and in the case I died before my fiancee, I have documented everything I have with their various issues or unique traits (such as, a modded turbo duo vs a standard one, she doesn't know much about this stuff) so that she could sell it in case of financial hardship, but she wants to keep it as well. Barring financial or health disasters, I hope to grow old playing this stuff. I'm not exactly young so I don't imagine just getting bored of it.
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 02:09 PM.... considering how much work it took just to.. Find a system that can play the supercd and turboCD titles, it's been by far the most prohibitive system i've ever encountered.
Don't shade the truth. The only reason it was "difficult" was because you limited yourself to a TurboDuo with RGB mod.
Lol, a system that does both Turbo and Super CDs?
CD games are not region locked. If you mean CD2 games when you say "Turbo", because of the TurboGrafx CD System Card or something, the Super CD and Arcade Card system cards are backwards compatible.
So for what you were looking for, any Duo system does and there's probably 100 for sale on eBay at any given time.
You guys are crazy. His posts are too damn long for me to read!
I also need games so you guys can PM me as well lol! I will discuss any game whether I played it or not. If I havent played it, I will base my opinions strictly on the box art and the description given on the back lol.
I also except hucards wrapped in tissue paper!
To have only started playing Obey for a year and then to drop thousands in one swoop scares me. That might be more than I've paid entirely for Obey in the years, yes years, that I've been buying them. Granted when I started there weren't as many mentally ill Nintendo Age members getting bored and jumping ship onto the next hotness, so prices weren't quite as ridiculous, but yeah. Buying too much too soon can kill anything... maybe. Eff.
Your actions certainly point to you flipping your shit at the drop of a dime in the future. And not here, as has been said before.
*sigh*
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Quote from: guest on 06/09/2016, 04:30 PMLol, a system that does both Turbo and Super CDs?
CD games are not region locked. If you mean CD2 games when you say "Turbo", because of the TurboGrafx CD System Card or something, the Super CD and Arcade Card system cards are backwards compatible.
So for what you were looking for, any Duo system does and there's probably 100 for sale on eBay at any given time.
Dont listen to this noob! Take it from a long time member like myself. To play imports on the america turbo or duo system you need to first load an american CD. when the game boots and the CD is spinning its fastest you have to open the door and remove the american CD then put in the japanese disc. After a reset it should play fine. Classic disc swap trick :P
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 02:09 PMPlus, if I listed all the stuff I got, i'm sure most would agree the games are quite good, I'm not personally sure if the system has expensive bad games, but if it does, I have no desire to own them. This is something that I think does separate me from a lot of collectors, you have people wanting to spend 5k on a copy of cheetahman II, but i'd not want that in my presence, scarcity is only neat when it's applied to something I enjoy. Again, just me though.
I personally would be very interested to find out what games you dumped this money into. Esp. after, Ill bet .....a lot of those games (at least 1) was available as a pressed repro, and Ill bet you turned your head at the thought of that.
He has obtained 2 games since starting this thread :-k
Quote from: khyron65 on 06/09/2016, 05:10 PMI also need games so you guys can PM me as well lol! I will discuss any game whether I played it or not. If I havent played it, I will base my opinions strictly on the box art and the description given on the back lol.
Based on the excellent TG16 game art, we know every review will be 10/10.
Quote from: 780racer on 06/09/2016, 05:29 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 02:09 PMPlus, if I listed all the stuff I got, i'm sure most would agree the games are quite good, I'm not personally sure if the system has expensive bad games, but if it does, I have no desire to own them. This is something that I think does separate me from a lot of collectors, you have people wanting to spend 5k on a copy of cheetahman II, but i'd not want that in my presence, scarcity is only neat when it's applied to something I enjoy. Again, just me though.
I personally would be very interested to find out what games you dumped this money into. Esp. after, Ill bet .....a lot of those games (at least 1) was available as a pressed repro, and Ill bet you turned your head at the thought of that.
I don't do repro's unless the game didn't release in the US or at all, and even then it's quite rare (I believe I have 2 or 3). The only repro i'd consider is magical chase and I've never been made aware of one just yet.
Here is a picture of the order, all but 2 of the titles came from Jello, so thanks again man. I'll start with New Adventure island :P
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/goldenpp72/20160609_211701_zpsqvtmtoyx.jpg)
Worked out good, thanks again!
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 10:22 PMWorked out good, thanks again!
Did that Exile: Wicked Wild West come from JelloCutie? I might start crying. Might.
It's sad that 1/2 to 2/3 of what you paid was for the cardboard boxes. :/
Yes exile was one of his, Dead Moon and Dungeons and Dragons was from another seller, but the rest was from him. While not likely relevant here, I actually first learned of the TG16 when I realized Working Designs had published titles on that system, it's why I wanted to get it in the first place since I love their games. I managed to snag vasteel with the slip prior but, Exile will have to live shirtless :P
And I agree, the cost of the cardboard is sad, but it sure does look kinda cool.
I'm glad that I don't much care for cardboard, as that shit is ridiculously overpriced. The only ones I have aside from the two Sparky repros are Cosmic fantasy 2 and Sonic Spike. They will probably get raffled at some point... unless I run out of toilet paper some night, of course. :3
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 10:50 PMYes exile was one of his, Dead Moon and Dungeons and Dragons was from another seller, but the rest was from him. While not likely relevant here, I actually first learned of the TG16 when I realized Working Designs had published titles on that system, it's why I wanted to get it in the first place since I love their games. I managed to snag vasteel with the slip prior but, Exile will have to live shirtless :P
And I agree, the cost of the cardboard is sad, but it sure does look kinda cool.
Give me your Exile.
Oops, double post. Sorry.
Please accept this hot picture as a formal apology:
(https://i.imgur.com/XYguM1I.jpg)
Would you say you plan to exile Cosmic fantasy and Sonic Spike cardboard?
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 11:01 PMWould you say you plan to exile Cosmic fantasy and Sonic Spike cardboard?
Making teh jokes now, I see? Sure, why not? When will you be sending me that copy of Exile?
As soon as someone sends me Magical Chase :p
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 10:22 PM(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/goldenpp72/20160609_211701_zpsqvtmtoyx.jpg)
LOL. You dropped 3.6k on that lot and a system?
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Ok I think I'll now listen to Zeta for once and stop feeding the attention whore.
you'd think 3.6 THOUSAND would get you more than a bunch of sports games but apparently not.
Quote from: wiseau on 06/10/2016, 12:24 AMyou'd think 3.6 THOUSAND would get you more than a bunch of sports games but apparently not.
No Splash Lake or Girly Games = Fail
Quote from: wiseau on 06/10/2016, 12:24 AMyou'd think 3.6 THOUSAND would get you more than a bunch of sports games but apparently not.
Yeah that guy took me for a ride, I would have done better on eBay but I just couldn't wait :)
When someone asks for the definition of collectard just link to this thread.
I'm sure if someone offered those games to you for free (and you had to keep them) you would deny them in the spirit of not owning a lot of cool games. It's way better to just have a few :-"
i think a few of those were mine from my big sale last year. anyway, just enjoy them, play them, discuss.
nice job on the tonma, soon people are going to be asking almost a third of what you payed for that game alone.
Quote from: geise on 06/10/2016, 12:04 AMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 10:22 PM(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/goldenpp72/20160609_211701_zpsqvtmtoyx.jpg)
LOL. You dropped 3.6k on that lot and a system?
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Ok I think I'll now listen to Zeta for once and stop feeding the attention whore.
There are some great games in there. I feel better that I am such a cheap bastard and pick out slowly.
Although sometimes I do things too slowly and prices get stupid for some games.
This thread really had it all I must say. A real page turner, even if I skimmed the super tl;dr posts from the op.
Quote from: Otaking on 06/08/2016, 07:49 AMI honestly think what gets people pissed on here is if a new member comes straight on here and heads straight for the trades section and starts a "WTB" thread, particularly requesting the rarez, it's a guaranteed flaming.
I don't understand why people don't get this but it happens time and time again. Even I waited a little before really trying to do that here, and all I really did was inquire about a CDROM2 iirc.
Quote from: gatsu25 on 06/07/2016, 05:10 AMI don't see any harm in somebody wanted to complete their collection. He gets enjoyment out of it, whatever his reasons may be. The Turbografx is expensive because it is hard stuff to find, and it is probably the best failed system to have ever existed. It's not some conspiracy about people who are buying up all the games and screwing over the "real fans".
I honestly think its a bit sad that he is simply asking for the games he needs, and gets so much negativity. I also don't think he needs to justify it like he has.
Some of this negativity towards collecting comes off as jealousy to me.
Whose sock is this? :roll:
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/08/2016, 04:46 PMI'm making one post in this thread, this is it. I can't find the time to shit on every collectard these days because the fuckers are crawling out of the sewers and getting accounts faster than I can flame them. Seriously, where are they coming from? Is the youth of today really this lost? Don't they still make motorcycles and rock music and chicks? I'm genuinly sad.
Anyway, fuck this guy, obviously. But also, fuck all of YOU too because what this guy wants more than anything is validation. Obviously his primary means of achieving this is burying himself in old video game crap which is worshipful to people who get mad about Ghostbusters and look at shrinkwrap under a microscope to try to understand it. But when that fails the length of this thread fills in some gaps by letting him be the self designated martyr/hero for the NA mentality. Just look at how long his responses are. He *needs* this criticism to keep him going. You're feeding his teeny weeny little underdeveloped homunculus five pages of collectard junk food.
My favourite post in the thread I must say.
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 10:22 PM(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v354/goldenpp72/20160609_211701_zpsqvtmtoyx.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/goldenpp72/media/20160609_211701_zpsqvtmtoyx.jpg.html)
Oh i see, it's some guy from neogaf (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=206280929&postcount=98), that explains a few things.
Yeah I post on like 10 forums, but primarily Neogaf, which I believe i've mentioned a few times before. I suppose my drastically different name took a lot of detective work there, good job :idea:
Lights torch. :)
Quote from: guest on 06/08/2016, 03:15 PM. Like the kid in elementary school that would only come over to your house to "play" and just play your Sega the whole time because all he had at home was a NES. (or similar)
That brings memories back when I was in elementary in the very early 90s, and there was this girl in my class who owned a SNES. She was an ugly pig and smelled just like the dog they had at their home, but I went to visit her often to play Super Mario World with her. I feel ashamed today for the apparent crush she had on me, but I still don't regret it.
$3600. In one go. Enough said.
Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 06/10/2016, 07:57 PM$3600. In one go. Enough said.
You can have all I have to offer for 3600... If you know what I mean *Wink*
I see is a lot of "get off my lawn" and jealousy among the established members here, who fail to realize some peeps might be living the dream and not worry about dropping that amount of money on individual games they want in their collection. Some people pay that much on a single pinball machine, and they have dozens of those machines in their pads...and still manage to pay their bills...
So prices are increasing, yet you can still play the games with Everdrives and CDRs, so why do you care? Yeah, get off my lawn!
Lol. "Hey you! get off my grass".
Go and beat your face.
Lol
Quote from: nopepper on 06/11/2016, 02:06 AMI see is a lot of "get off my lawn" and jealousy among the established members here, who fail to realize some peeps might be living the dream and not worry about dropping that amount of money on individual games they want in their collection. Some people pay that much on a single pinball machine, and they have dozens of those machines in their pads...and still manage to pay their bills...
So prices are increasing, yet you can still play the games with Everdrives and CDRs, so why do you care? Yeah, get off my lawn!
Ok.
If nothing more this thread has allowed the new guy to interact with the regulars. Almost like an intervention
So if everdrive and cdrs are so good, why doesn't OP use them instead of bragging about wasting so much money on stupid shit.
Quote from: wiseau on 06/11/2016, 10:47 AMSo if everdrive and cdrs are so good, why doesn't OP use them instead of bragging about wasting so much money on stupid shit.
It's never the same as having the original stuff.
Quote from: wiseau on 06/11/2016, 10:47 AMSo if everdrive and cdrs are so good, why doesn't OP use them instead of bragging about wasting so much money on stupid shit.
The more important question is if that is the method others like to use, why would they take issue with someone going for authentic stuff then? If the legitimate releases are stupid to you, why would there be any bother with someone else buying it, do you get upset when someone buys food you don't care for?
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/11/2016, 01:00 PMQuote from: wiseau on 06/11/2016, 10:47 AMSo if everdrive and cdrs are so good, why doesn't OP use them instead of bragging about wasting so much money on stupid shit.
The more important question is if that is the method others like to use, why would they take issue with someone going for authentic stuff then? If the legitimate releases are stupid to you, why would there be any bother with someone else buying it, do you get upset when someone buys food you don't care for?
wiseau asked a legitimate question and it went straight over your head, just as others seem to begin reading "old timer" posts with a pre-set mentality of their own.
The problem with too many newer pro-collectard members is that they're narrow minded and assume that everyone else here is. So they don't understand the common sense of most posts they just skim over to take away an opinion to either side with or argue against. There are endless threads and years of posts about the subtleties of games>possessionism, collecting vs collectards and just as many posts from people complaining about prices and how hard it is to find what they want, while constantly overpaying several times what anything "goes for" because they are incapable of operating the search function on any website.
Necro already touched upon some of this earlier, but people like nopepper are still so oblivious that he/she can't figure out that the people they're condemning as bullies are the ones "living the dream" and have most/all of the games they think are worth owning and are also the ones able to make large purchases if they feel like it. Meanwhile goldenpp has already expressed his/her desire to "asap stem the bleeding it's causing my bank account". So they definitely aren't living the dream you're describing and if you paid attention instead of looking for people to blame, you'd realize that as usual people are trying to help a collectard instead of attack them. Pro-collectards are so oblivious that they use the same b.s. defense as biggots complaining that they're being persecuted against, by potentially having their right to persecute others be restricted.
If golddenpp was actually here to "gather info" and didn't just drop in to create and monitor this one thread and leave with all the goods, they might have put two and two together and realized that this thread was directly above the repro HuCard thread. Instead of talking about how they'd gladly settle on a repro Magical Chase, but aren't aware of any existing. I guess they have no choice but to shell out for an original CIB...
Those repro hu cards look sweet. Combined with the 3D printed cases and custom side labels.
Ok.
Somebody took a shit on my lawn.
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/11/2016, 01:00 PMQuote from: wiseau on 06/11/2016, 10:47 AMSo if everdrive and cdrs are so good, why doesn't OP use them instead of bragging about wasting so much money on stupid shit.
The more important question is if that is the method others like to use, why would they take issue with someone going for authentic stuff then? If the legitimate releases are stupid to you, why would there be any bother with someone else buying it, do you get upset when someone buys food you don't care for?
Fighting with vegetarians and vegans is one of my favorite hobbies. I hadn't really chimed in much until now, but if we are going to start fighting about food count me in. I also will fight you about thinking it isn't worth fighting about food, because it most certainly is. This metaphor was so poorly conceived that you might as well give up on defending yourself, you have proven yourself incapable.
Quote from: guest on 06/11/2016, 02:26 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/11/2016, 01:00 PMQuote from: wiseau on 06/11/2016, 10:47 AMSo if everdrive and cdrs are so good, why doesn't OP use them instead of bragging about wasting so much money on stupid shit.
The more important question is if that is the method others like to use, why would they take issue with someone going for authentic stuff then? If the legitimate releases are stupid to you, why would there be any bother with someone else buying it, do you get upset when someone buys food you don't care for?
wiseau asked a legitimate question and it went straight over your head, just as others seem to begin reading "old timer" posts with a pre-set mentality of their own.
The problem with too many newer pro-collectard members is that they're narrow minded and assume that everyone else here is. So they don't understand the common sense of most posts they just skim over to take away an opinion to either side with or argue against. There are endless threads and years of posts about the subtleties of games>possessionism, collecting vs collectards and just as many posts from people complaining about prices and how hard it is to find what they want, while constantly overpaying several times what anything "goes for" because they are incapable of operating the search function on any website.
Necro already touched upon some of this earlier, but people like nopepper are still so oblivious that he/she can't figure out that the people they're condemning as bullies are the ones "living the dream" and have most/all of the games they think are worth owning and are also the ones able to make large purchases if they feel like it. Meanwhile goldenpp has already expressed his/her desire to "asap stem the bleeding it's causing my bank account". So they definitely aren't living the dream you're describing and if you paid attention instead of looking for people to blame, you'd realize that as usual people are trying to help a collectard instead of attack them. Pro-collectards are so oblivious that they use the same b.s. defense as biggots complaining that they're being persecuted against, by potentially having their right to persecute others be restricted.
If golddenpp was actually here to "gather info" and didn't just drop in to create and monitor this one thread and leave with all the goods, they might have put two and two together and realized that this thread was directly above the repro HuCard thread. Instead of talking about how they'd gladly settle on a repro Magical Chase, but aren't aware of any existing. I guess they have no choice but to shell out for an original CIB...
Oh I see, so people are actually trying to help me and encourage me to not collect in order to save me money (as they are clearly aware of my finances), and are being total dicks about it, to help. That's definitely the entire point i've gotten from everyone here, especially the people remarking on their inability to find games because of collectards.
It all makes sense now.
Edit: Also, I have obtained a repro card for Magical chase as well as the repro sleeve, due to looking into the pricing be something like 5k+. There is an appeal to people like myself to own the authentic, original product, but we all have our limits financially, I'm a home owner and have enough disposable income to handle my own affairs without needing people to try and give me saving tips by calling me an idiot or whatever, not really a logical point in my mind. Sure i'd rather it all be free, and like most I have to balance what I can and can't afford, but I haven't hit my threshold yet.
Once again, if you took no personal issue with people collecting original and authentic stuff because you don't care, then it shouldn't resort to people breathing fire whenever someone mentions wanting a box, sorry, there is no logic there. The only logical conclusion is that people also want this stuff, are pissed it's become so expensive, and are lashing out on those who continue to buy it and thus inflate the prices further by having less circulating on the market, as if they 'deserve' this stuff more than other people. I sure as hell don't give a damn when someone spends a thousand bucks on tickets to a play or baseball game, and I don't think anyone else does either.
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/11/2016, 05:13 PMas if they 'deserve' this stuff more than other people.
Some people
do deserve this stuff more than others. If anyone
deserves anything at all. Should go to those who wait patiently and aren't raring to go. Just to be clear, I don't believe I'm one of those that deserves anything. The legitimate senior members on the other had, they deserve all the things and then some. If they even want it, that is.
**edited for grammatical errors. hehe
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 06/11/2016, 05:37 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/11/2016, 05:13 PMas if they 'deserve' this stuff more than other people.
Some people do deserve this stuff more than others.
Just to be clear, I do believe I'm one of those that deserves Vasteel and Exile.(After 780racer gets a exile... obviously)
Fixed.
Quote from: 780racer on 06/11/2016, 05:55 PMQuote from: HailingTheThings on 06/11/2016, 05:37 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/11/2016, 05:13 PMas if they 'deserve' this stuff more than other people.
Some people do deserve this stuff more than others.
Just to be clear, I do believe I'm one of those that deserves Vasteel and Exile.(After 780racer gets a exile... obviously)
Fixed.
gotta have 1000+ posts to deserve anything. you arent hardened enough here.
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/11/2016, 05:13 PMI sure as hell don't give a damn when someone spends a thousand bucks on tickets to a play or baseball game, and I don't think anyone else does either.
No, no. This is like someone who became a baseball team's fan 5 seconds ago going up to long time fans of the team and telling them they're assholes, but they should sell that person rare sports memorabilia because said person
might stick around the community if they got it.
Golden PP7... What an offensive nickname to one of my favorite games, thanks to shitty behavior.
Quote from: guest on 06/11/2016, 07:04 PMGolden PP7... What an offensive nickname to one of my favorite games, thanks to shitty behavior.
You choice say it has you shaken not stirred.
Hi. Would you like some cd-r? I have nearly a hundred 650mb ones. Good stuff.
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MMMM 650 mb CDs.... Gewd stuff
Quote from: wiseau on 06/11/2016, 10:47 AMSo if everdrive and cdrs are so good, why doesn't OP use them instead of bragging about wasting so much money on stupid shit.
Welcome, new member!
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 06/11/2016, 05:37 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/11/2016, 05:13 PMas if they 'deserve' this stuff more than other people.
Some people do deserve this stuff more than others. If anyone deserves anything at all. Should go to those who wait patiently and aren't raring to go. Just to be clear, I don't believe I'm one of those that deserves anything. The legitimate senior members on the other had, they deserve all the things and then some. If they even want it, that is.
**edited for grammatical errors. hehe
If you sit down and wait a long time for a Ferrari, it's not going to magically be given/sold to you for cheap because you were a patient person and loved them longer. Like all things money drives everyone, sure, i'd rather all these games cost 5 bucks, them being expensive is actually more a hassle because it becomes a liability to some extent, I simply had a small dream of sorts, and am working towards that going on nearly 10 years of patience. I have to ask, if someone bought all these games 15 years ago and got them for cheap prices, but has the same amount, are they 'collectards' or just great people because they spent less?
People here discredit an entire person because they have only been savvy to this system for a couple years, yet I've been playing games for 27 years and collecting to obtain more to PLAY for a decade, I have never lapsed in my time in this hobby. I'm a gamer, not a single console lover of something that came out 25 years ago. The PCengine is a great platform, but it's a great platform among many great platforms, I can't help that I didn't know Splatterhouse, Lords of Thunder and a ton of other games I enjoy on other systems had versions or outright sequels/prequels on this system. One of my favorite series growing up was the Adventure Island series on the Nes, I had no idea it, or stuff like Monster Lair which is based on another IP I enjoy, existed on this system years ago.
If i'm willing to pay more for it, and be understanding of the way the world works, then yeah, i'll likely get it first. I guess that's really the issue here, the community here only seems to focus on the allowance to enjoy one system, I game on dozens, the fact that I only found out more about the TG16 via discovering other games on other systems, should not suddenly penalize me. Not knowing isn't a bad thing, and apparently appreciating the library in 2016 somehow makes it less valid than figuring it out 10 years back. I'm sure everyone here grew up with these games and just now decided hey I wanna buy that stuff.
The message here is incredibly mixed, ranging from you're an idiot because I emulate, you're an idiot because I use Repros or CDRs, or you're an idiot because you spend more money than I will and thus get things before me? I wonder how that logic will work when I go to the store. "Hey clerk, i waited 2 weeks before coming to get these bananas, I deserve them for cheaper than this asshole who only just figured out he likes bananas, wtf I hope you die"
In the end, this situation here is very simple and entirely NOT a problem to you guys personally. We have a seller who is NOT willing to offload stuff for 'lower than common value' prices, and we have users who will absolutely slaughter you for trying to do so. I get the impression if someone listed a game they can easily get 600 bucks for here, they would be ran off the planet, so if you're never going to pay that, don't complain if someone else will, instead, get them from the very charitable users who will sell you Magical Chase for 100 bucks because you're a great fan.
In the end he is buying games outside my price point. Unless I stumble on some INSAINE deal. Like a magical chase fell of the back of a truck.
Which is why I opted for the PCE copy. Which to me is just as good lol. Same with my little Samson. It's the famicom.
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 06/11/2016, 11:31 PMIn the end he is buying games outside my price point. Unless I stumble on some INSAINE deal. Like a magical chase fell of the back of a truck.
Which is why I opted for the PCE copy. Which to me is just as good lol. Same with my little Samson. It's the famicom.
I plan to likely get a Reproduction of Little Samsom, Hagane (snes) and a couple other titles that i'd like to represent the same way my other stuff is, but would never be able to sink that kind of cash into. it's odd, I don't begrudge those who do, I think they might be a bit crazy but hey, I hope they enjoy.
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/11/2016, 11:12 PM"Hey clerk, i waited 2 weeks before coming to get these bananas, I deserve them for cheaper than this asshole who only just figured out he likes bananas, wtf I hope you die"
In a perfect world, yes.
Quote from: 780racer on 06/11/2016, 05:55 PMQuote from: HailingTheThings on 06/11/2016, 05:37 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/11/2016, 05:13 PMas if they 'deserve' this stuff more than other people.
Some people do deserve this stuff more than others.
Just to be clear, I do believe I'm one of those that deserves Vasteel and Exile.(After 780racer gets a exile... obviously)
Fixed.
Sure.
Quote from: gynt on 06/11/2016, 06:01 PMLet's make out.
Fine, I guess.
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 06/11/2016, 07:09 PMYou choice say it has you shaken not stirred.
Good one!
Quote from: Medic_wheat on 06/11/2016, 11:31 PMWhich is why I opted for the PCE copy. Which to me is just as good lol. Same with my little Samson. It's the famicom.
As long as the game isn't an rpg I just about always opt for the Japanese version if it's cheaper. All my Bonk games are Japanese for instance. In addition to being cheaper, the hucard itself typically looks a lot better imo.
...AND JOHNNY TURBO SAYETH TO GOLDENPP:
"Instead of defending yourself in this thread, you could have played three different games and discussed your reactions to them. If you didn't want to share your trials and tribulations (out of fear of sounding trite or green), you could have focused solely on the music in each game, or the aesthetics.... "
And the Lourde of Thunder continued:
"You could have played another game and shared a thought about it just now, in the time it took to read this post. Amen"
BOTTOM LINE:
IGNORE ALL OTHER TANGENTS.
THIS IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS.
Earning goodwill in a community requires organic, sincere participation in something substantial (playing games + learning history + enjoying music/art/lore and sharing thoughts on all of the aforementioned).
DROPPING $$$$ for INSTACOLLECTION is not going to build any goodwill. Having knowledge and sharing lore that is solely limited to "the Art of Collecting" is not going to build goodwill.
Stop wasting your time with all of the other debates.
Stop posting for a bit.
Play PCE/TG-16.
Discuss.
Thank you.
Quote from: HailingTheThings on 06/12/2016, 02:20 AMQuote from: gynt on 06/11/2016, 06:01 PMLet's make out.
Fine, I guess.
lol. only if you're buying...and null films it.
back to pp-head: im not sure where the whole "somebody deserves it more" thing came from, as i dont believe anybody is better than the next or deserves it more at all. i also dont think anybody cares what you paid in all honesty. truth ne told, i am glad you lined jellos pockets by over $1000 overpayment for what you got. he's a good dude and does great repair work. you know...somebody who contributes any way he can. it doesnt take much, find some turbo/pce nugget nobody realized, add a mag scan or two, help a member answer a question they dont know, etc.
any time a good "for sale" thread pops up that is well under market you will often find its a good member and they will set rules. generally a minimum post count (even if your count is high, it shouldnt be 100 posts in word association or something stupid like what the fuck SP stands for). but i digress, can you find a few other areas of the site to post in so you dont keep digging a bigger hole for yourself.
i am trying to help.
I don't think am entirely "oblivious" of the issues that stir the "collectard" debate. I just personally don't care, and perhaps it's a blanket statement, but the only reason I see others do is because they are affected by the increase in prices. They are affected because they have more sense than money, have waited patiently to eventually acquire a game, only to become unobtainable due to "collectard's"/"insta-collectors" who don't subscribe to their same ideology driving prices up.
I'm a gamer and not a collector, so it doesn't really affect me (I'm perfectly happy with my Everdrive and CDRs and some choice originals), so it's the long term collectors who chastise the new collectors as if their long time membership in this exclusive club gives them entitlement over the supply of games in the wild. And from what I see, these folks getting rattled over not being able to complete their collections is just as weird to me as the ones who pay 3.6K for their instant collections. But at the end of the day, to each their own.
Now I'll take Esteban's suggestion and go back to trying to beat Gate of Thunder in Hard; that last level is giving me fits!
Quote from: gynt on 06/12/2016, 08:04 AMQuote from: HailingTheThings on 06/12/2016, 02:20 AMQuote from: gynt on 06/11/2016, 06:01 PMLet's make out.
Fine, I guess.
lol. only if you're buying...and null films it.
back to pp-head: im not sure where the whole "somebody deserves it more" thing came from, as i dont believe anybody is better than the next or deserves it more at all. i also dont think anybody cares what you paid in all honesty. truth ne told, i am glad you lined jellos pockets by over $1000 overpayment for what you got. he's a good dude and does great repair work. you know...somebody who contributes any way he can. it doesnt take much, find some turbo/pce nugget nobody realized, add a mag scan or two, help a member answer a question they dont know, etc.
any time a good "for sale" thread pops up that is well under market you will often find its a good member and they will set rules. generally a minimum post count (even if your count is high, it shouldnt be 100 posts in word association or something stupid like what the fuck SP stands for). but i digress, can you find a few other areas of the site to post in so you dont keep digging a bigger hole for yourself.
i am trying to help.
I'd like to see your method to finding that combination of titles for 1000 dollars less, unless that method includes sitting on here praying someone post a 'sweet deal' anyways. The pricing he and I worked out was actually him giving it out cheaper than the normal eBay prices, especially for the condition. Rather, I would say the pricing I paid was somewhat in line with what the average listing was going for a year or two ago. His pricing was (almost always) a decent bit below eBay pricing on an individual basis anyways. As they say, something is only worth what people are willing to pay, I do believe that I could easily resell that stuff and make at least a decent profit right now, let alone in a year or so with god knows how it will keep trending.
Thankfully I hope to die with these still in my possession, but I just don't think it's fair to me or jello to imply I got ripped off, as he seems like a nice and fair individual (who may have made a profit based on what he once paid, but not for what it could be worth today), and I am generally pretty savvy when it comes to realistic value.
At worst, it was fair, but I won't be testing those waters to find out.
If the difference between good and very good = $1000 or the difference between CIC games and CIC + disposeable boxes is $2000, it is not difficult at all to figure out the difference in price between what you paid and what you could gave gotten them for on eBay. You even added several premium disclaimers yourself. You paid a massive premium for a potentially slight bump in condition and/or superfluous completeness. If the $1000 difference in condition between great and omega great is indiscernible while seeing them on your shelf and only while they are in your hands next to the slightly less perfect copies that you didn't actually buy... you can feel that it was money well spent. But don't play dumb pretending that you don't understand how they would have cost $1000 - $2000 less purchased separately. Unless you really have no idea of what they sell for. Just agree that you could have settled for less than the best for less, but money is no more of a concern for you than knowing if you care enough about a game before dropping double to triple its going rate to buy it and add to the queue of games you might try only after you've completed piecing together your complete set. You are more interested in the real life cardboard collecting sim than any game that exists in the Turbo library. This is a Turbo game enthusiast community and not a cardboard sim community.
Just enjoy playing your prefered game and stop trying to win over Turbo game fans with sim talk. If you want to join the Turbo discussion, ignore this thread and join some of the game discussion or create a thread to talk about your game experiences.
It's kind of like a comic book. Condition condition condition and what you are willing to pay and or value.
Example. I have a .5 graded copy of the first appearance of the Juggernaut. What I really wanted was
A key issue to add to my comics
"Pretty cover" condition.
And I got just that. For $35.
For some that wouldn't have been good enough and would have paid the premium $1,000 plus for a 9.what ever condition copy.
Quote from: guest on 06/14/2016, 12:04 AMMy balls, my sack, my mangina and my crack.
what is...nulls christmas party?
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/12/2016, 01:48 PMQuote from: gynt on 06/12/2016, 08:04 AMQuote from: HailingTheThings on 06/12/2016, 02:20 AMQuote from: gynt on 06/11/2016, 06:01 PMLet's make out.
Fine, I guess.
lol. only if you're buying...and null films it.
back to pp-head: im not sure where the whole "somebody deserves it more" thing came from, as i dont believe anybody is better than the next or deserves it more at all. i also dont think anybody cares what you paid in all honesty. truth ne told, i am glad you lined jellos pockets by over $1000 overpayment for what you got. he's a good dude and does great repair work. you know...somebody who contributes any way he can. it doesnt take much, find some turbo/pce nugget nobody realized, add a mag scan or two, help a member answer a question they dont know, etc.
any time a good "for sale" thread pops up that is well under market you will often find its a good member and they will set rules. generally a minimum post count (even if your count is high, it shouldnt be 100 posts in word association or something stupid like what the fuck SP stands for). but i digress, can you find a few other areas of the site to post in so you dont keep digging a bigger hole for yourself.
i am trying to help.
I'd like to see your method to finding that combination of titles for 1000 dollars less, unless that method includes sitting on here praying someone post a 'sweet deal' anyways. The pricing he and I worked out was actually him giving it out cheaper than the normal eBay prices, especially for the condition. Rather, I would say the pricing I paid was somewhat in line with what the average listing was going for a year or two ago. His pricing was (almost always) a decent bit below eBay pricing on an individual basis anyways. As they say, something is only worth what people are willing to pay, I do believe that I could easily resell that stuff and make at least a decent profit right now, let alone in a year or so with god knows how it will keep trending.
Thankfully I hope to die with these still in my possession, but I just don't think it's fair to me or jello to imply I got ripped off, as he seems like a nice and fair individual (who may have made a profit based on what he once paid, but not for what it could be worth today), and I am generally pretty savvy when it comes to realistic value.
At worst, it was fair, but I won't be testing those waters to find out.
lol. and you see one or two people paid this much, so that is what it must be worth.
since i just heard of the turbografx two weeks ago, and i need the games immediately, there is no time to research beyond most recent sold ebay listings.
Quote from: gynt on 06/14/2016, 12:19 AMQuote from: guest on 06/14/2016, 12:04 AMMy balls, my sack, my mangina and my crack.
what is...nulls christmas party?
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/12/2016, 01:48 PMQuote from: gynt on 06/12/2016, 08:04 AMQuote from: HailingTheThings on 06/12/2016, 02:20 AMQuote from: gynt on 06/11/2016, 06:01 PMLet's make out.
Fine, I guess.
lol. only if you're buying...and null films it.
back to pp-head: im not sure where the whole "somebody deserves it more" thing came from, as i dont believe anybody is better than the next or deserves it more at all. i also dont think anybody cares what you paid in all honesty. truth ne told, i am glad you lined jellos pockets by over $1000 overpayment for what you got. he's a good dude and does great repair work. you know...somebody who contributes any way he can. it doesnt take much, find some turbo/pce nugget nobody realized, add a mag scan or two, help a member answer a question they dont know, etc.
any time a good "for sale" thread pops up that is well under market you will often find its a good member and they will set rules. generally a minimum post count (even if your count is high, it shouldnt be 100 posts in word association or something stupid like what the fuck SP stands for). but i digress, can you find a few other areas of the site to post in so you dont keep digging a bigger hole for yourself.
i am trying to help.
I'd like to see your method to finding that combination of titles for 1000 dollars less, unless that method includes sitting on here praying someone post a 'sweet deal' anyways. The pricing he and I worked out was actually him giving it out cheaper than the normal eBay prices, especially for the condition. Rather, I would say the pricing I paid was somewhat in line with what the average listing was going for a year or two ago. His pricing was (almost always) a decent bit below eBay pricing on an individual basis anyways. As they say, something is only worth what people are willing to pay, I do believe that I could easily resell that stuff and make at least a decent profit right now, let alone in a year or so with god knows how it will keep trending.
Thankfully I hope to die with these still in my possession, but I just don't think it's fair to me or jello to imply I got ripped off, as he seems like a nice and fair individual (who may have made a profit based on what he once paid, but not for what it could be worth today), and I am generally pretty savvy when it comes to realistic value.
At worst, it was fair, but I won't be testing those waters to find out.
lol. and you see one or two people paid this much, so that is what it must be worth.
since i just heard of the turbografx two weeks ago, and i need the games immediately, there is no time to research beyond most recent sold ebay listings.
Do you conveniently overlook things stated just to make a point that makes no sense? I've been collecting on this system for a couple years now, and I use the same resources everyone else uses (price charting, ebay, rarityguide, etc)
Typically, if something is obscure and hard to find, the last time it sold will become the new bar. As example, a copy of Kid Dracula (GB) sold for 400 bucks 3 years ago, the last one sold for 700 dollars. So using your logic, because that game pops up maybe once a year, it should be practical to find for 400 dollars, right? To use a more recent example, a copy of Shadowrun sold for something like 200 on the Snes, which seemed really high compared to the normal, I found a copy for about 80 in excellent shape, which is more in line with the usual pricing, but because it's common enough to run into, it doesn't cause a feeding frenzy.
If so, it would explain why so many people are not finding what they want. Curious, I recently obtained a nice condition Super Air Zonk, what price would you say that one would be able to get for it realistically, or rather, if an auction of 1 dollar was made, how aggressive do you think people would go on it?
I like how almost every single post he's ever made on this forum revolves around buying games or bragging/defending his collection.
i wont even comment on your other two "resources", but i love the SAZ comparison.
you can play the exact same game, running on any USA hardware for $50 if you can get over the fact its the PCE version. essentially, you are paying almost what, $450 for a USA case/manual. so come on, that has to sound rediculous to even you.
at least use a comparison of bonk 3 CD or beyond shadowgate since they were usa exclusives. in a weird way, i can understand the premium since its only option.
I liken it to other forms of collecting. Comics and toys might be cheaper I buy if it was made in Canada or what have you.
The walking dead issue 1
US copy $1,000 or what ever
Canada copy $40
Similarly to buying a NA copy of a video game that's $200 or a famicom copy that's $20
For many on these found myself included we do not mind buying the cheaper option for a game as we just want to play it and experience it. Which is why ever drives and newer CD based options to play ripped roms woke for us. The condition of the game, and if it is germain to the country we are from isn't a factor.
However, for a collector who values things such as condition, and country of origin for their collection it does. It affects price and willingness to spend that kind of money.
Which can be very polarizing to many in these forums. It leads us to feel that collectors who pay a premium price for games is causing a trickle down effect to the affordability, accessibility, and enjoyment factor for us to get a game or a system without some reseller saying "well mine has label damage and is loose so it's $75 because a CIB copy goes for $150. Or what have you.
I am sure comic book collectors and toy collectors had a similar issue once their hobbies became "mainstream" and affordability and accessibility for their hobbies exploded in price because people would buy at a premium higher quality comics or key issues.
So my advice? View video game collecting like comic books. Systems are like comic companies and games could end up being seen as "key" issues.
Just look at Deadpool. I picked up the first appearance of Deadpool a few years ago for $40 mint condition. That same comic with the popularity of the character and movie is probably now $200.
I find this thread difficult to masturbate too.....
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I don't imagine i'll get many more hits on this topic (well, the good kind, anyways) but I figured i'd edit it again. Here is a pic of my bigger pick up haul, but i'll likely be winding down from buying for awhile outside of the TG stuff and a few other stragglers. I also have a Splatterhouse on the way from someone here but it has not been delivered just yet :P Magical chase is a reproduction in all ways btw, but still really cool.
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I hope that you bought that Magical Chase box from Sparky.
Quote from: guest on 06/17/2016, 10:07 PMI hope that you bought that Magical Chase box from Sparky.
From my knowledge he is the only one who makes them...at lest on this forum.
Quote from: guest on 06/17/2016, 10:07 PMI hope that you bought that Magical Chase box from Sparky.
I bought them from someone who bought it from him i'd assume, I actually did buy a box from Sparky some time ago for Keith Courage, but at the time I had delusions of finding MC legit, I give up :p It's cool that on the back, it says not a real version, but it looks real nice. I got the repro HUcard from the site listed here too, very nice looking.
Well, if it's being flipped, at least it's paired with a bootleg and not used to get an extra $1000 paired with a loose HuCard.
Quote from: guest on 06/17/2016, 11:23 PMWell, if it's being flipped, at least it's paired with a bootleg and not used to get an extra $1000 paired with a loose HuCard.
I actually think it was an extra and sold at a loss, I got it for 10 bucks anyways. I think the original pricing was like 12 or something like that, but I don't recall now. Still, really nice box :P
UPDATE: ...
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Indeed.
Has anyone noticed that he's buying sealed games? Like that Monster Lair is sealed, that Air Zonk is sealed, that silent debuggers, the riot zone he posted about early in the thread.
Quote from: wiseau on 06/19/2016, 10:36 AMHas anyone noticed that he's buying sealed games? Like that Monster Lair is sealed, that Air Zonk is sealed, that silent debuggers, the riot zone he posted about early in the thread.
That's what he was doing when he first showed up to show off his hauls. He opens them when he's ready to play them, which infortunately has taken a back seat to collecting.
I also have a lot of sealed games that replaced incomplete or missing titles that I needed. I'm trying to save opening them for a video series I'm working on.
The big difference between us though, is that I paid the imaginary "wishful thinking" prices that people like pp say don't exist or you'd have to wait "forever" for.
Actually none of those games are sealed, i'm actually quite surprised someone would be that easily tricked by Air Zonk, considering it's just one of those game protector wrappers with an adhesive seal. Monster lair is not only not sealed, but I bought the disc/plastic case from Jello here, and the box itself from someone else. It does however have shrink wrap around the box, so I could see being confused. None of them are sealed though, whoever sold them to the people I bought them from just kept the wrapper on. The Splatterhouse coming my way also has the shrink wrap, but is not sealed. I'd be shocked if most people here don't have something like that.
I believe on TG16, I only own a few sealed titles out of the 90 I have, and they were sold at a fair, used price. Keep on trying though, for real. I don't buy new games though, not unless the price is the same as used, simply because I don't want to destroy the supposed value because i decided to open it.
It's a shame people here make so many assumptions without even asking, I spent a couple hours and about 80 bucks modding Atari 5200 controllers yesterday so that I can play the system, I feel I go quite an extensive length to make sure all my stuff can be played, but then someone here diminishes all that because they spotted shrink wrap.
Quote from: CrackTiger on 06/19/2016, 10:47 AMThe big difference between us though, is that I paid the imaginary "wishful thinking" prices that people like pp say don't exist or you'd have to wait "forever" for.
Yeah, right. A long time ago... Who cares?
P.S. Its been nearly a year since you bought 20 dupes or more from Oscar. Did you get a good flipping price for them? You clearly didn't offer them up to the community.
I could be absolutely wrong, but I don't imagine anyone who started buying on Turbo when I did was likely to run into enough sweet deals to amass the titles I wanted to find in their entirety. The issue is that while you might get a few great deals being frugal, you'll likely leave other stuff off the table forever, especially as things trend in the more severe way. Look at NeoGeo, it's basically pointless to bother at this point, i'm sure people years ago thought they were crazy too.
Obviously if I knew waiting would help me save I would, but the market seems to make these quite difficult to find. Thankfully, if all you want is to play them, there are nice alternatives now like those repros or emulation.
Tea, Earl Grey, hot.
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/19/2016, 05:38 PMThankfully, if all you want is to play them, there are nice alternatives now like those repros or emulation.
Or imports. Many Japanese versions are still way cheaper and require zero English. I certainly wouldn't have Cotton, Bonk 3 or Soldier Blade if I were buying US copies. There are countless examples. Magical Chase is still pricey for a Japanese hu, but it's pennies compared to a US copy. Plus there are so many great games that never made it over as well.
Quote from: Gypsy on 06/19/2016, 06:22 PMQuote from: goldenpp72 on 06/19/2016, 05:38 PMThankfully, if all you want is to play them, there are nice alternatives now like those repros or emulation.
Or imports. Many Japanese versions are still way cheaper and require zero English. I certainly wouldn't have Cotton, Bonk 3 or Soldier Blade if I were buying US copies. There are countless examples. Magical Chase is still pricey for a Japanese hu, but it's pennies compared to a US copy. Plus there are so many great games that never made it over as well.
Same here with Bonk 3. Have yet to get cotton. And what's its name. There is cotton and another similar cd shooter.
Terraforming
Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 06/19/2016, 01:48 PMQuote from: CrackTiger on 06/19/2016, 10:47 AMThe big difference between us though, is that I paid the imaginary "wishful thinking" prices that people like pp say don't exist or you'd have to wait "forever" for.
Yeah, right. A long time ago... Who cares?
P.S. Its been nearly a year since you bought 20 dupes or more from Oscar. Did you get a good flipping price for them? You clearly didn't offer them up to the community.
Wow creepy.. And I thought I stocked DK, Tiger he has a dirty hard on for you :P
Quote from: guest on 06/20/2016, 11:09 PMQuote from: DildoKKKobold on 06/19/2016, 01:48 PMQuote from: CrackTiger on 06/19/2016, 10:47 AMThe big difference between us though, is that I paid the imaginary "wishful thinking" prices that people like pp say don't exist or you'd have to wait "forever" for.
Yeah, right. A long time ago... Who cares?
P.S. Its been nearly a year since you bought 20 dupes or more from Oscar. Did you get a good flipping price for them? You clearly didn't offer them up to the community.
Wow creepy.. And I thought I stocked DK, Tiger he has a dirty hard on for you :P
It's not stalking when someone makes up stories.
Quote from: CrackTiger on 06/20/2016, 11:59 PMIt's not stalking when someone makes up stories.
Which part is a lie? The part that you bought dupes from syphic, or the fact that they were never offered up to the community? I don't know if you flipped them after getting a great deal or not, which is why I asked. I noticed you avoided that question, just like you locked the thread last time. Maybe you flipped 'em, maybe you didn't. Who knows for sure. You desperately tried to change the conversation last time, accusing me of getting in to your personal business, just because syphic consulted me before he sold you Beyond Shadowgate.
Hell, you even admitted you had extra stuff...
Quote from: CrackTigerI've already talked about how I have been picking up pieces of games to add manuals and cases to some of my TurboChips which need them and how the remaining pieces will get added to the extras I already have to trade for some of the pieces I still need.
It wouldn't surprise me if one of the loudest voices decrying gougers was actually a secret gouger. That would be delicious irony.
Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 06/21/2016, 06:53 PMQuote from: CrackTiger on 06/20/2016, 11:59 PMIt's not stalking when someone makes up stories.
Which part is a lie? The part that you bought dupes from syphic, or the fact that they were never offered up to the community? I don't know if you flipped them after getting a great deal or not, which is why I asked. I noticed you avoided that question, just like you locked the thread last time. Maybe you flipped 'em, maybe you didn't. Who knows for sure. You desperately tried to change the conversation last time, accusing me of getting in to your personal business, just because syphic consulted me before he sold you Beyond Shadowgate.
Hell, you even admitted you had extra stuff...
Quote from: CrackTigerI've already talked about how I have been picking up pieces of games to add manuals and cases to some of my TurboChips which need them and how the remaining pieces will get added to the extras I already have to trade for some of the pieces I still need.
It wouldn't surprise me if one of the loudest voices decrying gougers was actually a secret gouger. That would be delicious irony.
That wouldn't be surprising at all. Pretty normal human behavior. Like a murderer showing up at his own crime scene to feign sadness or outrage.... Those who work with the youth, but are closet pedophiles etc
Quote from: DildoKobold on 06/21/2016, 06:53 PMQuote from: guest on 06/20/2016, 11:59 PMIt's not stalking when someone makes up stories.
Which part is a lie? The part that you bought dupes from syphic, or the fact that they were never offered up to the community? I don't know if you flipped them after getting a great deal or not, which is why I asked. I noticed you avoided that question, just like you locked the thread last time. Maybe you flipped 'em, maybe you didn't. Who knows for sure. You desperately tried to change the conversation last time, accusing me of getting in to your personal business, just because syphic consulted me before he sold you Beyond Shadowgate.
Hell, you even admitted you had extra stuff...
Quote from: guestI've already talked about how I have been picking up pieces of games to add manuals and cases to some of my TurboChips which need them and how the remaining pieces will get added to the extras I already have to trade for some of the pieces I still need.
It wouldn't surprise me if one of the loudest voices decrying gougers was actually a secret gouger. That would be delicious irony.
Yeah, it would also validate a lot of the bullshit that comes out of your mouth. I wouldn't count on either of those things turning your way.
Quote from: guest on 06/21/2016, 07:37 PMThat wouldn't be surprising at all. Pretty normal human behavior. Like a murderer showing up at his own crime scene to feign sadness or outrage.... Those who work with the youth, but are closet pedophiles etc
Why don't you self delete again no one missed you :)
DK, your the asshole over here always remember that and tiger has given great deals, raffles and great advice so shut the fuck up :)
F U Sparkles. I thought we were virtual lovers.
😢
Could never stand ya, but It's ok (( rubs back))
Edit: I am just kiddin zero, I barely know you.
I feel this topic is heading in a very therapeutic direction.
http://youtu.be/iwBtKdXwQS0 Electric Shock Aversion Therapy | The Simpsons
Can I enter the raffle?
And can I sell you a 13% complete homebrew on a repro card with box and manual for $250? I guarantee the release and availability is extremely limited. If you don't buy it now, you will regret it years from now, not dissimilar from a new geo.
Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 06/21/2016, 06:53 PMQuote from: CrackTiger on 06/20/2016, 11:59 PMIt's not stalking when someone makes up stories.
Which part is a lie? The part that you bought dupes from syphic, or the fact that they were never offered up to the community? I don't know if you flipped them after getting a great deal or not, which is why I asked. I noticed you avoided that question, just like you locked the thread last time. Maybe you flipped 'em, maybe you didn't. Who knows for sure. You desperately tried to change the conversation last time, accusing me of getting in to your personal business, just because syphic consulted me before he sold you Beyond Shadowgate.
Hell, you even admitted you had extra stuff...
Quote from: CrackTigerI've already talked about how I have been picking up pieces of games to add manuals and cases to some of my TurboChips which need them and how the remaining pieces will get added to the extras I already have to trade for some of the pieces I still need.
It wouldn't surprise me if one of the loudest voices decrying gougers was actually a secret gouger. That would be delicious irony.
Alright DarkKobold, you win. Here's the attention you so desperately seek:
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=21151.new#new (https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=21151.new#new)
Maybe goldenpp72 was willing to pay a premium to get this stuff sooner...
So i'm down to 9 now from the prior 11 but my funds are starting to get a bit drier, so I think i'll just be focusing on TG stuff from here as opposed to a bunch of stuff, I have a pending potential buy on the turbo express as well, so hopefully a little more luck my way.
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/06/2016, 03:50 PMQuote from: guest on 06/06/2016, 03:34 PMBooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Why do you play your games on a giant hdmi tv? Probably in 16:9.
Booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I use a framemeister upscaler which upscales TG titles very well, the Turbo duo is modified to output in Scart and then lead into the upscaler, and no, they are played in 4:3 aspect ratio. The upscaler introduces a minor lag, but due to the fact it then outputs in a native resolution the TV doesn't need to upscale, also removes lag the TV would have otherwise introduced. That particular panel is also a very low latency panel. As for why I use an HDTV, it's because the shelf life of older tube tvs is growing shorter and the ability to repair them more limited. I have a side setup with a tube tv as well with consoles hooked up to it, but it is primarily for Light gun shooters, pictured here:
Framemeister is the best way to go
Damn, part of me wishes I got to Jello first, wish I could have snagged some of those titles. Though I'm much more conservative in my approach, buying the whole lot at once takes some wind out of the sales.
Side note, goldenpp, you want to sell anything :)
Kinda took a little break from buying on TG (well is a bit dry) but I managed to snag still a few things from a couple members here in the recent weeks, figured i'd give the original post an update as i'm only missing 6 games i'd like. I figured I should also ask, does anyone here have a good resource for all the good import games? I don't plan on importing but i'd not mind buying some more reproductions from the people who sell them here over time, would be cool to know which ones are fun :P
If you're looking for import repros, none is more fun than "Turbo Everdrive".
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 07/22/2016, 11:29 AMKinda took a little break from buying on TG (well is a bit dry) but I managed to snag still a few things from a couple members here in the recent weeks, figured i'd give the original post an update as i'm only missing 6 games i'd like. I figured I should also ask, does anyone here have a good resource for all the good import games? I don't plan on importing but i'd not mind buying some more reproductions from the people who sell them here over time, would be cool to know which ones are fun :P
Why the hell would you not import anything? Thanks for the update though. I was anxiously awaiting how much you have left to acquire. I know you're having fun playing all these games.
So...you want to buy some games that were only available as imports but instead of just doing exactly that you want someone to make repros of them?
The spreadsheet you have to keep of your labyrinthian logic must be immense. Truely you are the Henry Darger of collectards.
EDIT: "All the good import games." What a phrase. I mean, first off, that has to be code for "is there anyone better than Tobias?" If not then the dude apparently thinks there's someplace where they keep 50-60 different pirate PCE titles in production at all times. It's not like there are only three or four decent PCE games. There are more decent PCE games than there are US games period. If you only collect TG-16 you only have one weird short lived, failed export version of the PCE. The bulk of everything is PCE, therefore the bulk of "the good games" is also PCE.
Quote from: guest on 07/22/2016, 11:37 AMIf you're looking for import repros, none is more fun than "Turbo Everdrive".
A little late, but to the OP:
25 years ago, everybody had access to the same informations.
The whole mass of sheeps chose SuperNes or Megadrive.
1% was able to read between lines, avoid marketing and were open minded enough to choose The PcE/Turbo.
The 99% of sheeps at best didn't even know of the PcE, although the console was covered by generalist magazines, or were overlooking and mocking PcE owners.
One day, the PcE became hyped, and the 99% who didn't give a shit about the PcE the day before start to collect them all, attracting scammers/hoarders, prices become obscene and certain games are now unobtainable.
Can't you understand why the 1% is pissed off?
I am personally part of this situation. I love PcE since 89, had a Duo and a GT in the 90's, then stopped for some reason. Got back in the real hardware thing in 2012 and started to collect all the games I once had and all the ones I had not. Mid-life crisis, yeah.
I participate to this madness, so I'll never show off or ask for super deals, because I understand the old timers' resentment and have nothing but respect for them. They were here and stayed true from day one.
^ Respect. You chose a really bad year to get back into the pce. :lol: 2012 was one of the worst years. I am just happy to hear you are back into playing pce.
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Welcome, comrade. :)
Quote from: esteban on 07/24/2016, 09:26 PMQuote from: Psycho Alt-Nintega on 07/24/2016, 07:26 PMKarl Marx does not approve of this thread. You have all sinned. Shame on you.
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I have been called Karl Marx at work for years, so I approve.
I think GPP7 does a good job in trolling for attention, doesn't he?
Besides, where the hell is ButtSnuff if we need him the most? I miss him already.