12/23/2024: Localization News - Team Innocent

PC-FX Localization for Team Innocent is released, a pre-Christmas gift!! In a twist, it feels like the NEC PC-FX got more attention in 2024 than any other time I can remember! Caveat: The localizers consider the "v0.9" patch a BETA as it still faces technical hurdles to eventually subtitle the FMV scenes, but they consider it very much playable.
github.com/TeamInnocent-EnglishPatchPCFX
x.com/DerekPascarella/PCFXNews
Main Menu

WTB: 6 Complete US TG16/SuperCD games.

Started by goldenpp72, 06/06/2016, 08:08 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

geise

You are right on the money.  You get it.  A lot of newer users don't.  Every forum has their do's and don't's.  I would say we are pretty lax around here, just not with gimme gimme check my collection stuff.  We all collect to some degree.  It's honestly how people go about acquiring stuff that gets them called out.  Especially the instant collection guys.

Nazi NecroPhile

It amazes me that so many of you think the sole (or even primary) reason anyone said anything negative was because he wants boxes.  Other than pp bringing it up repeatedly and people defending buying boxes, it was brought up but once.  Once!  Even then it was in passing and part of a greater message, hardly the equivalent of 'only assholes buy boxes'.  The fact of the matter is that pp started the thread with 'I know you're all assholes but gimme, gimme, GIMME!' and a refusal to discuss games until he owns them all, yet you wonder why he's getting grief?!?  Truly amazing.

You geniuses can assert we hate collectors because we're jealous, poor, etc., but you're just demonstrating ignorance and/or bias.  Some of the largest, coolest, most impressive collections I know of are owned by fellow members (i.e. Henry, Black Tiger, Shubi, Superplay, Dan, Bardo, Runinruder, and Tatsu) and several members own many boxes (such as Henry, nully, haboobi, or even myself), yet nobody hates them for being collectors.  Wanna know why?  It's easy: they're not leeches.

P.S. - Can y'all stop getting your panties in a twist over the 'collectard' moniker?  It's been used to describe pretty much everyone here for one reason or another, and no intelligent person can argue that what many of us are doing is logical or wise.  Seriously, don't you have to be a bit daft to own an LA, collect cardboard and even buy repros, assemble complete system sets, or enjoy Hatris?
Ultimate Forum Bully/Thief/Saboteur/Clone Warrior! BURN IN HELL NECROPHUCK!!!

geise

Quote from: guest on 06/07/2016, 04:31 PMSeriously, don't you have to be a bit daft to own an LA, collect cardboard and even buy repros, assemble complete system sets, or enjoy Hatris?
Probably just Hatris.

HailingTheThings

Quote from: guest on 06/07/2016, 08:19 AMNope, no bullshit. I have way too many things that just sit on shelves and don't get enjoyed.
Well, damn. Didn't realize you had that much stuff that you weren't caressing, old friend. I'm sorry. I still love you, but it saddens me that you would let go of so much adorable OBEY, assuming the bulk of the $3,000+ spent by customer-guy was in fact as such.

I believe we need to embrace again, soon.

Thinking of you,

Hails

<3
IMG

goldenpp72

Guess i'll respond with a few more things, I hadn't seen that the topic had grown quite a bit but the topic was still serving it's purpose I suppose, but it's early and I had time to read it through, though i'll likely not recall it all. Still i'll address some stuff. I do appreciate jelloslug at least validating our transaction, while i'm not sure what the original desire  to expose the user was, it at least helps to not make me look like a liar of some sort :P

For a lot of the other post, a lot of you are right, but you also look at it the wrong way. I'll throw some background out that i'm sure someone will simplify as 'lol collectard omg' and move along, but hey, why not.

I'm a collector, yes it's true. I started about 10 years ago over one moment. My fiancee had missed the entire 8 bit and 16 bit generation, and I was trying to find some mutual fun things for us to share our time with. I purchased a Snes and a copy or Kirby Super Star, we completed the game and had a lot of fun doing so. I had bought the game complete for about 30 bucks as well. That same title can sell near the 100 range nowadays, to help put into perspective the motivation to try and get this over with. I consider the collecting aspect the burden, with the end result being to play the stuff on the original hardware and have the most authentic, but quality experience I could come up with.

When I first began, things were cheaper, sellers were looser and in general it was a lot easier to deal with, it only took about 5 years for me to begin regretting going for complete titles because of the way pricing was jacking up so much, but when you get that far into something, it becomes difficult for some of us to back away and call it quits, even if it takes out a lot more money than expected. However, the urge for me to complete my various system collections comes from the desire to get it over with in the event the cost continue to rise, I do not want even more games to reach a prohibitive point that I can no longer ever afford to purchase them (as many have)

In the end there are many kind of collectors, with the only mutual shared aspect being that they are collecting something. In my case, the definition of a collection has altered itself a lot over a decade, my entire game area is quite large and has a lot of things to display, it's designed to basically be a monument to the hobby both visually, but also in terms of the ability to play everything. A lot of work went into wiring everything and placing seating everywhere or ensuring there is enough space to play on all the sorts of the stuff that has released.

This is a hobby that I took on because I play them, if the day ever comes I don't want to play them, i'd offload the whole area and never look back. While I like the display aspect, I don't personally see why i'd want to display anything when I'd not care to actually use it. This is also something I take part in with my would be wife, and yes, even in social settings we have managed to gather people to play Saturn Bomberman or Four Swords on the Gamecube, light gun shooters, etc.

In the end, I think the big issue here is that I came here with one primary goal right now, which was to learn about the system and to learn the trappings to look out for when buying games for it. However, while I came here to collect, I'd also come here to play when I'm able to allocate more time to doing it. It's true I spend a lot of time collecting which is a lot less time I can use for the playing aspect, but if I spend too much time playing and not buying, suddenly that game I thought was 30 bucks is now 100 bucks, and that creates a lot of issues for me as i'm not a rich guy, this stuff takes a long time for me to save money for.

When I do decide to binge on these games, this is the only dedicated TG community i've ever seen, so it would likely be the place i'd want to share my thoughts with too (as I do on plenty of sites). The main issue I guess is that I came here as a collector first hoping to eventually take part in the normal discussion, but I guess the damage there is done regardless. In any event, I collect for both play and montage, however I don't appreciate the accusation that I just buy haphazardly and have no idea what's coming my way, every title I buy has had plenty of research done, reviews, videos, and at times a test drive via emulator if something is really unsure (or expensive). If it's something i'd really love to play I increase my likelihood of shelling out the value for it, it's all very much curated to my own taste.

When I worked with jello, he had a whole list of stuff I hadn't look into yet, alongside the stuff I did want, I spent time looking into video footage and reviews of a lot of stuff, not realizing for example that the tennis game had a unique looking rpg lite mode, and things like that fueled my purchase. If I never wanted to try it, i'd not be buying it. I'm sure the reasons each of you come to the conclusion for disliking collectors is different, and I personally don't care for most collectors as I feel they miss the spirit of the hobby (which is playing, kind of counter productive when you won't open your game), but I guess it's their money to do with as they please.

I doubt this post will help much but, well it's early and i'm the only one awake, so enjoy I guess :p

Edit:

Quote from: gynt on 06/07/2016, 10:27 AMi could honestly care less about what he "wants", its just lulz to poke fun.
the problem is the "insta-tard" of wanting to buy everything before he even plays or wants to talk about it.

WTB 15 COMPLETE games, "rarer" stuff. 

I mean, come on, the title was begging for this. 
his next thread will be "WTB: Riot Zone, must include outer box"
Way ahead of ya buddy, thanks for the support in this topic!

IMG

Otaking

As has been said before, for the most part the people on this forum are or were collectors ourselves.

If you had 200 posts under your belt and requested those same 15 games I guarantee you would not have been flamed. I honestly think what gets people pissed on here is if a new member comes straight on here and heads straight for the trades section and starts a "WTB" thread, particularly requesting the rarez, it's a guaranteed flaming. Intergrate with the community first, get your post count up with valid posts, then think about checking the trades section.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86jH2UQmvKY&t=812s
Quote from: some block off youtubeIn one episode, Dodongo c-walks out of a convenience store with a 40 at 7:40 AM, steals an arcade machine from an auction, haggles in Spanish for a stuffed papa smurf to use as a sex toy, and buys Secret of Mana for a dollar.

goldenpp72

That's a fair criticism, and I apologize for not trying to mingle with the community more or rather, feeling out the dynamic of the forum a bit more. I do post on a lot of places but this one is definitely unique, as i'm sure many are aware. At this point I can kind of see some of the pattern, as in reality I doubt anyone would care if you collect if the games weren't becoming cost prohibitive.

Otaking

TBH I think it's unfair on new members, the way it's currently set up they're dangled a "carrot and the stick" and then flamed. That's the whole reason I've always advocated a trades forum restriction until you've reached a certain post count.

I must say though, one positive part to all the flaming is this forum is very different to NintendoAge, it drives away people who have a NintendoAge type of mentality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86jH2UQmvKY&t=812s
Quote from: some block off youtubeIn one episode, Dodongo c-walks out of a convenience store with a 40 at 7:40 AM, steals an arcade machine from an auction, haggles in Spanish for a stuffed papa smurf to use as a sex toy, and buys Secret of Mana for a dollar.

DildoKKKobold

Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 04/28/2016, 06:31 PM(Actually, my favorite is when some of the regulars make noobs jump through hoops to *prove* they are worthy of buying, despite not actually having anything for sale that the noob wants to buy.) ...

Interestingly, we are seeing a shift to where the WTB posts are getting ignored, at least, instead of the standard dog and pony show.
Good to see things are back to normal.

Also, gynt is a total hypocrite, as if you invite him into your home, he'll treat it like his personal shopping center. He'll offer you large sums of money for your games, and then insult you if you don't take it. Such a hospitable guest.

FIVE BILLS.
AvatarDildoKKKobold.jpg
For a good time with the legendary DarkKobold, email: kylethomson@gmail.com
Dildos provided free of charge, no need to bring your own! :lol:
DoxPhile .com / chat
IMG

xcrement5x

Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 06/08/2016, 01:44 PM
Quote from: DildoKKKobold on 04/28/2016, 06:31 PM(Actually, my favorite is when some of the regulars make noobs jump through hoops to *prove* they are worthy of buying, despite not actually having anything for sale that the noob wants to buy.) ...

Interestingly, we are seeing a shift to where the WTB posts are getting ignored, at least, instead of the standard dog and pony show.
Good to see things are back to normal.

Also, gynt is a total hypocrite, as if you invite him into your home, he'll treat it like his personal shopping center. He'll offer you large sums of money for your games, and then insult you if you don't take it. Such a hospitable guest.

FIVE BILLS.
Oh, do tell ;)

IMG



And yeah, I basically have to agree with Otaking.  I think I was browsing threads for a couple months before I ever attempted to buy anything (though I did ask for a Sapphire boot) and maybe that helped.  I also mainly play/collect PCE so that could have something to do with it. 

I'm sure lots of folks that come in and ask to buy rarer stuff really are interested in the system and want to play games, but it feels a bit demeaning to the whole community when people only come to you when they WANT something, but show no interest in you otherwise.  Like the kid in elementary school that would only come over to your house to "play" and just play your Sega the whole time because all he had at home was a NES.  (or similar)
Demented Clone Warrior Consensus: "My pirated forum clone is superior/more "moral" than yours, neener neener neener..."  ](*,)

jtucci31


SignOfZeta

I'm making one post in this thread, this is it. I can't find the time to shit on every collectard these days because the fuckers are crawling out of the sewers and getting accounts faster than I can flame them. Seriously, where are they coming from? Is the youth of today really this lost? Don't they still make motorcycles and rock music and chicks? I'm genuinly sad.

Anyway, fuck this guy, obviously. But also, fuck all of YOU too because what this guy wants more than anything is validation. Obviously his primary means of achieving this is burying himself in old video game crap which is worshipful to people who get mad about Ghostbusters and look at shrinkwrap under a microscope to try to understand it. But when that fails the length of this thread fills in some gaps by letting him be the self designated martyr/hero for the NA mentality. Just look at how long his responses are. He *needs* this criticism to keep him going. You're feeding his teeny weeny little underdeveloped homunculus five pages of collectard junk food.
IMG

wildfruit


goldenpp72

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/08/2016, 04:46 PMI'm making one post in this thread, this is it. I can't find the time to shit on every collectard these days because the fuckers are crawling out of the sewers and getting accounts faster than I can flame them. Seriously, where are they coming from? Is the youth of today really this lost? Don't they still make motorcycles and rock music and chicks? I'm genuinly sad.

Anyway, fuck this guy, obviously. But also, fuck all of YOU too because what this guy wants more than anything is validation. Obviously his primary means of achieving this is burying himself in old video game crap which is worshipful to people who get mad about Ghostbusters and look at shrinkwrap under a microscope to try to understand it. But when that fails the length of this thread fills in some gaps by letting him be the self designated martyr/hero for the NA mentality. Just look at how long his responses are. He *needs* this criticism to keep him going. You're feeding his teeny weeny little underdeveloped homunculus five pages of collectard junk food.
You must be a talented therapist if you think people desire criticism, heh. In reality, I just wanted people to PM me if they had the stuff I needed, but I knew the risk of course, as people can't help but try and meddle.

esteban

Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/08/2016, 09:09 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/08/2016, 04:46 PMI'm making one post in this thread, this is it. I can't find the time to shit on every collectard these days because the fuckers are crawling out of the sewers and getting accounts faster than I can flame them. Seriously, where are they coming from? Is the youth of today really this lost? Don't they still make motorcycles and rock music and chicks? I'm genuinly sad.

Anyway, fuck this guy, obviously. But also, fuck all of YOU too because what this guy wants more than anything is validation. Obviously his primary means of achieving this is burying himself in old video game crap which is worshipful to people who get mad about Ghostbusters and look at shrinkwrap under a microscope to try to understand it. But when that fails the length of this thread fills in some gaps by letting him be the self designated martyr/hero for the NA mentality. Just look at how long his responses are. He *needs* this criticism to keep him going. You're feeding his teeny weeny little underdeveloped homunculus five pages of collectard junk food.
You must be a talented therapist if you think people desire criticism, heh. In reality, I just wanted people to PM me if they had the stuff I needed, but I knew the risk of course, as people can't help but try and meddle.
:)
IMGIMG IMG  |  IMG  |  IMG IMG

ToyMachine78

Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/08/2016, 09:09 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/08/2016, 04:46 PMI'm making one post in this thread, this is it. I can't find the time to shit on every collectard these days because the fuckers are crawling out of the sewers and getting accounts faster than I can flame them. Seriously, where are they coming from? Is the youth of today really this lost? Don't they still make motorcycles and rock music and chicks? I'm genuinly sad.

Anyway, fuck this guy, obviously. But also, fuck all of YOU too because what this guy wants more than anything is validation. Obviously his primary means of achieving this is burying himself in old video game crap which is worshipful to people who get mad about Ghostbusters and look at shrinkwrap under a microscope to try to understand it. But when that fails the length of this thread fills in some gaps by letting him be the self designated martyr/hero for the NA mentality. Just look at how long his responses are. He *needs* this criticism to keep him going. You're feeding his teeny weeny little underdeveloped homunculus five pages of collectard junk food.
You must be a talented therapist if you think people desire criticism, heh. In reality, I just wanted people to PM me if they had the stuff I needed, but I knew the risk of course, as people can't help but try and meddle.
Great response Occam's razor Zeta.

DildoKKKobold

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/08/2016, 04:46 PMI'm making one post in this thread, this is it. I can't find the time to shit on every collectard these days because the fuckers are crawling out of the sewers and getting accounts faster than I can flame them. Seriously, where are they coming from? Is the youth of today really this lost? Don't they still make motorcycles and rock music and chicks? I'm genuinly sad.

Anyway, fuck this guy, obviously. But also, fuck all of YOU too because what this guy wants more than anything is validation. Obviously his primary means of achieving this is burying himself in old video game crap which is worshipful to people who get mad about Ghostbusters and look at shrinkwrap under a microscope to try to understand it. But when that fails the length of this thread fills in some gaps by letting him be the self designated martyr/hero for the NA mentality. Just look at how long his responses are. He *needs* this criticism to keep him going. You're feeding his teeny weeny little underdeveloped homunculus five pages of collectard junk food.
There are a lot of clouds that need your attention Zeta.

IMG


AvatarDildoKKKobold.jpg
For a good time with the legendary DarkKobold, email: kylethomson@gmail.com
Dildos provided free of charge, no need to bring your own! :lol:
DoxPhile .com / chat
IMG

Nazi NecroPhile

Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/08/2016, 09:09 PMYou must be a talented therapist if you think people desire criticism, heh. In reality, I just wanted people to PM me if they had the stuff I needed, but I knew the risk of course, as people can't help but try and meddle.
I'm inclined to agree with zeta that you revel in the attention.  If you didn't want it, you'd have locked the thread and dealt solely in PMs.
Ultimate Forum Bully/Thief/Saboteur/Clone Warrior! BURN IN HELL NECROPHUCK!!!

goldenpp72

I enjoy some positive attention like any other, but no I don't revel in negative attention. My reason for responding is that i'm not the type to roll over in a one on one discussion, but do consider 20 people dog piling gang style to be a futile effort. I very much do not agree with the approach of some of the users here, and believe that if a person doesn't speak back, will continue to help fortify that individuals belief that they are 'correct'.

Of course, I operate more so in a live and let live world and accept most people for their nuance, however I would genuinely have preferred the topic to just be information, trades, and friendly banter rather than half of it being filled with venom. I'd rather someone comment that this game is super fun than to hope my family dies. If someone comes and says hey, I prefer emulation and don't want to spend money on physical items, I don't jump down their throat and preach about the legality and lack of authenticity, etc that such a method brings. I just understand we all do things for different reasons, and unless someone ask me for my specific thoughts on that subject, i'll just accept you're not me  :wink:

Thankfully, I have had a few nice discussions either privately, or some kinder words thrown my way by others, so I don't consider it entirely toxic, just more so than i'm used to. I certainly don't live in a world where i'd prefer to be hated than liked, and I seriously doubt almost anyone would think that way. Of course, I don't really care about the feelings of people who would act that way at first contact, as I seriously doubt such behavior would be acceptable to them face to face, but the internet lets people bring out their true personality without fear of repercussion, as usual.

Just because you manage to scare off 'collectard assholes' or whatever by the dozens doesn't suddenly make you the majority voice, it just makes you the only ones still yelling. If this community is satisfied being reclusive and difficult to approach for people like me then I can't help that, but in the end i'm sure most of us deep down would rather all be friends, as long as our enthusiasm is rooted in the right place (with mine being to learn about and play these games, and to obtain all the ones I want asap to stem the bleeding it's causing my bank account)

esteban

Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 12:14 PMI enjoy some positive attention like any other, but no I don't revel in negative attention. My reason for responding is that i'm not the type to roll over in a one on one discussion, but do consider 20 people dog piling gang style to be a futile effort. I very much do not agree with the approach of some of the users here, and believe that if a person doesn't speak back, will continue to help fortify that individuals belief that they are 'correct'.

Of course, I operate more so in a live and let live world and accept most people for their nuance, however I would genuinely have preferred the topic to just be information, trades, and friendly banter rather than half of it being filled with venom. I'd rather someone comment that this game is super fun than to hope my family dies. If someone comes and says hey, I prefer emulation and don't want to spend money on physical items, I don't jump down their throat and preach about the legality and lack of authenticity, etc that such a method brings. I just understand we all do things for different reasons, and unless someone ask me for my specific thoughts on that subject, i'll just accept you're not me  :wink:

Thankfully, I have had a few nice discussions either privately, or some kinder words thrown my way by others, so I don't consider it entirely toxic, just more so than i'm used to. I certainly don't live in a world where i'd prefer to be hated than liked, and I seriously doubt almost anyone would think that way. Of course, I don't really care about the feelings of people who would act that way at first contact, as I seriously doubt such behavior would be acceptable to them face to face, but the internet lets people bring out their true personality without fear of repercussion, as usual.

Just because you manage to scare off 'collectard assholes' or whatever by the dozens doesn't suddenly make you the majority voice, it just makes you the only ones still yelling. If this community is satisfied being reclusive and difficult to approach for people like me then I can't help that, but in the end i'm sure most of us deep down would rather all be friends, as long as our enthusiasm is rooted in the right place (with mine being to learn about and play these games, and to obtain all the ones I want asap to stem the bleeding it's causing my bank account)
I like that you have responded civilly in this thread. I also don't mind reading posts that elaborate on your rationale/philosophy.

At the end of the day, it comes down to this: if you have a better understanding of this forum and its culture, then we are happy.

You may not agree with us, but at least you will understand our perspective.
IMGIMG IMG  |  IMG  |  IMG IMG

geise

Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 12:14 PM(with mine being to learn about and play these games, and to obtain all the ones I want asap to stem the bleeding it's causing my bank account)
That's your own fault for dropping 3.6k on games right out the gate.

780racer

Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 12:14 PMI enjoy some positive attention like any other, but no I don't revel in negative attention. My reason for responding is that i'm not the type to roll over in a one on one discussion, but do consider 20 people dog piling gang style to be a futile effort. I very much do not agree with the approach of some of the users here, and believe that if a person doesn't speak back, will continue to help fortify that individuals belief that they are 'correct'.

Of course, I operate more so in a live and let live world and accept most people for their nuance, however I would genuinely have preferred the topic to just be information, trades, and friendly banter rather than half of it being filled with venom. I'd rather someone comment that this game is super fun than to hope my family dies. If someone comes and says hey, I prefer emulation and don't want to spend money on physical items, I don't jump down their throat and preach about the legality and lack of authenticity, etc that such a method brings. I just understand we all do things for different reasons, and unless someone ask me for my specific thoughts on that subject, i'll just accept you're not me  :wink:

Thankfully, I have had a few nice discussions either privately, or some kinder words thrown my way by others, so I don't consider it entirely toxic, just more so than i'm used to. I certainly don't live in a world where i'd prefer to be hated than liked, and I seriously doubt almost anyone would think that way. Of course, I don't really care about the feelings of people who would act that way at first contact, as I seriously doubt such behavior would be acceptable to them face to face, but the internet lets people bring out their true personality without fear of repercussion, as usual.

Just because you manage to scare off 'collectard assholes' or whatever by the dozens doesn't suddenly make you the majority voice, it just makes you the only ones still yelling. If this community is satisfied being reclusive and difficult to approach for people like me then I can't help that, but in the end i'm sure most of us deep down would rather all be friends, as long as our enthusiasm is rooted in the right place (with mine being to learn about and play these games, and to obtain all the ones I want asap to stem the bleeding it's causing my bank account)
2 points that people didn't take to you.

You are new. which we are always weary of newer members. Esp. after the millionth time getting a re-seller in here to just flip out good deals on fleabay. So its more dirty people than us honestly. Respect is earned, not given, and we don't hold your hand every time you get offended (You seem to be able to take one and not QQ Rage quit)

You came in here, wanting to buy up Rare games that some of our senior members are looking for, want them for a deal, and maybe only after that point did you want to talk about them. While you belly ache at Burning games, and actually finding games you enjoy, you just want to hoard and leech off the community.


My biggest issue is that if/when you fall out of your whole Turbo fab. Non of that Jello shit he sold you will make it back to here. It will go to fleabay, and more of the small amount of stuff is gone forevers.



I could give two shits if you have many games. or you collect them. My problem is the way you do it, and how you have not shown respect for the games, and how this community operates. You just wave money around and sit on your high horse. Buying shit in private and not talking to everyone here about anything Related or non related to Turbo.

Welcome to the Jungle,
~Ryan

goldenpp72

Quote from: geise on 06/09/2016, 01:13 PM
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 12:14 PM(with mine being to learn about and play these games, and to obtain all the ones I want asap to stem the bleeding it's causing my bank account)
That's your own fault for dropping 3.6k on games right out the gate.
That was hardly out of the gate to be fair, I first began playing on this system about a year ago and mostly found some stuff in random trades or of course eBay, and in fact the person I dealt with here was someone I got into contact with elsewhere and simply used this forum as a (quite appropriate) place to continue communication.

Plus, if I listed all the stuff I got, i'm sure most would agree the games are quite good, I'm not personally sure if the system has expensive bad games, but if it does, I have no desire to own them. This is something that I think does separate me from a lot of collectors, you have people wanting to spend 5k on a copy of cheetahman II, but i'd not want that in my presence, scarcity is only neat when it's applied to something I enjoy. Again, just me though.

Admittedly, I didn't get to dive into the system as much or as in depth as i'd like but, I do have a lot of things on my plate like most, and considering how much work it took just to.. Find a system that can play the supercd and turboCD titles, it's been by far the most prohibitive system i've ever encountered. It was thanks to a kind soul here that I was able to obtain a clean and functional, modded Turboduo though, but again, no one else seemed to be taking it off his hands, so I don't really see the harm in that.

If you're a seller looking to get (more or less) face value here, I would imagine you would be mocked and belittled for that as well, this is just my guess though, as I sense the higher price of some of these games seems to cause quite a bit of (admittedly logical) tension. Like most things in life, this is just a fluid hobby that you either have to try and catch the wave or get left behind, as much as people keep telling me some bubble is going to burst, each year I wait is more money i've lost not going for something sooner. It almost seems like some people would think it's smarter to buy one game at a time and just cross your fingers to find that other game again, as if TG16 games are just plentiful to find.. They're like diamonds, not literally worth their price, but demand will likely keep them pricey, so for those of us who really want to have them, we get bent over.

goldenpp72

Quote from: 780racer on 06/09/2016, 01:55 PM
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 12:14 PMI enjoy some positive attention like any other, but no I don't revel in negative attention. My reason for responding is that i'm not the type to roll over in a one on one discussion, but do consider 20 people dog piling gang style to be a futile effort. I very much do not agree with the approach of some of the users here, and believe that if a person doesn't speak back, will continue to help fortify that individuals belief that they are 'correct'.

Of course, I operate more so in a live and let live world and accept most people for their nuance, however I would genuinely have preferred the topic to just be information, trades, and friendly banter rather than half of it being filled with venom. I'd rather someone comment that this game is super fun than to hope my family dies. If someone comes and says hey, I prefer emulation and don't want to spend money on physical items, I don't jump down their throat and preach about the legality and lack of authenticity, etc that such a method brings. I just understand we all do things for different reasons, and unless someone ask me for my specific thoughts on that subject, i'll just accept you're not me  :wink:

Thankfully, I have had a few nice discussions either privately, or some kinder words thrown my way by others, so I don't consider it entirely toxic, just more so than i'm used to. I certainly don't live in a world where i'd prefer to be hated than liked, and I seriously doubt almost anyone would think that way. Of course, I don't really care about the feelings of people who would act that way at first contact, as I seriously doubt such behavior would be acceptable to them face to face, but the internet lets people bring out their true personality without fear of repercussion, as usual.

Just because you manage to scare off 'collectard assholes' or whatever by the dozens doesn't suddenly make you the majority voice, it just makes you the only ones still yelling. If this community is satisfied being reclusive and difficult to approach for people like me then I can't help that, but in the end i'm sure most of us deep down would rather all be friends, as long as our enthusiasm is rooted in the right place (with mine being to learn about and play these games, and to obtain all the ones I want asap to stem the bleeding it's causing my bank account)
2 points that people didn't take to you.

You are new. which we are always weary of newer members. Esp. after the millionth time getting a re-seller in here to just flip out good deals on fleabay. So its more dirty people than us honestly. Respect is earned, not given, and we don't hold your hand every time you get offended (You seem to be able to take one and not QQ Rage quit)

You came in here, wanting to buy up Rare games that some of our senior members are looking for, want them for a deal, and maybe only after that point did you want to talk about them. While you belly ache at Burning games, and actually finding games you enjoy, you just want to hoard and leech off the community.


My biggest issue is that if/when you fall out of your whole Turbo fab. Non of that Jello shit he sold you will make it back to here. It will go to fleabay, and more of the small amount of stuff is gone forevers.



I could give two shits if you have many games. or you collect them. My problem is the way you do it, and how you have not shown respect for the games, and how this community operates. You just wave money around and sit on your high horse. Buying shit in private and not talking to everyone here about anything Related or non related to Turbo.

Welcome to the Jungle,
~Ryan
I do understand the mutual culture of giving deals and thus, distributing deals yourself, or goodwill as it is. With that being said, I have not really scored any sort of amazing deal using this forum, it really has been basically eBay(ish) pricing but with minor bulk/fee based discounts. I definitely would be down to sell them here but i'd not give them away just as they weren't given to me, you know?

Also, I do not plan to ever sell my collection unless I'm dying or become disabled. In fact, I've been in the process of determining who would inherit the stuff in the event of my death, and in the case I died before my fiancee, I have documented everything I have with their various issues or unique traits (such as, a modded turbo duo vs a standard one, she doesn't know much about this stuff) so that she could sell it in case of financial hardship, but she wants to keep it as well. Barring financial or health disasters, I hope to grow old playing this stuff. I'm not exactly young so I don't imagine just getting bored of it.

Nazi NecroPhile

Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 02:09 PM.... considering how much work it took just to.. Find a system that can play the supercd and turboCD titles, it's been by far the most prohibitive system i've ever encountered.
Don't shade the truth.  The only reason it was "difficult" was because you limited yourself to a TurboDuo with RGB mod.
Ultimate Forum Bully/Thief/Saboteur/Clone Warrior! BURN IN HELL NECROPHUCK!!!

CrackTiger

Lol, a system that does both Turbo and Super CDs?

CD games are not region locked. If you mean CD2 games when you say "Turbo", because of the TurboGrafx CD System Card or something, the Super CD and Arcade Card system cards are backwards compatible.

So for what you were looking for, any Duo system does and there's probably 100 for sale on eBay at any given time.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

khyron65

You guys are crazy. His posts are too damn long for me to read!

I also need games so you guys can PM me as well lol! I will discuss any game whether I played it or not. If I havent played it, I will base my opinions strictly on the box art and the description given on the back lol.

I also except hucards wrapped in tissue paper!

HailingTheThings

To have only started playing Obey for a year and then to drop thousands in one swoop scares me. That might be more than I've paid entirely for Obey in the years, yes years, that I've been buying them. Granted when I started there weren't as many mentally ill Nintendo Age members getting bored and jumping ship onto the next hotness, so prices weren't quite as ridiculous, but yeah. Buying too much too soon can kill anything... maybe. Eff.

Your actions certainly point to you flipping your shit at the drop of a dime in the future. And not here, as has been said before.

*sigh*

: (
IMG

khyron65

Quote from: guest on 06/09/2016, 04:30 PMLol, a system that does both Turbo and Super CDs?

CD games are not region locked. If you mean CD2 games when you say "Turbo", because of the TurboGrafx CD System Card or something, the Super CD and Arcade Card system cards are backwards compatible.

So for what you were looking for, any Duo system does and there's probably 100 for sale on eBay at any given time.
Dont listen to this noob! Take it from a long time member like myself. To play imports on the america turbo or duo system you need to first load an american CD. when the game boots and the CD is spinning its fastest you have to open the door and remove the american CD then put in the japanese disc. After a reset it should play fine. Classic disc swap trick  :P

780racer

Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 02:09 PMPlus, if I listed all the stuff I got, i'm sure most would agree the games are quite good, I'm not personally sure if the system has expensive bad games, but if it does, I have no desire to own them. This is something that I think does separate me from a lot of collectors, you have people wanting to spend 5k on a copy of cheetahman II, but i'd not want that in my presence, scarcity is only neat when it's applied to something I enjoy. Again, just me though.
I personally would be very interested to find out what games you dumped this money into. Esp. after, Ill bet .....a lot of those games (at least 1) was available as a pressed repro, and Ill bet you turned your head at the thought of that.

jtucci31


TheClash603

Quote from: khyron65 on 06/09/2016, 05:10 PMI also need games so you guys can PM me as well lol! I will discuss any game whether I played it or not. If I havent played it, I will base my opinions strictly on the box art and the description given on the back lol.
Based on the excellent TG16 game art, we know every review will be 10/10.

goldenpp72

Quote from: 780racer on 06/09/2016, 05:29 PM
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 02:09 PMPlus, if I listed all the stuff I got, i'm sure most would agree the games are quite good, I'm not personally sure if the system has expensive bad games, but if it does, I have no desire to own them. This is something that I think does separate me from a lot of collectors, you have people wanting to spend 5k on a copy of cheetahman II, but i'd not want that in my presence, scarcity is only neat when it's applied to something I enjoy. Again, just me though.
I personally would be very interested to find out what games you dumped this money into. Esp. after, Ill bet .....a lot of those games (at least 1) was available as a pressed repro, and Ill bet you turned your head at the thought of that.
I don't do repro's unless the game didn't release in the US or at all, and even then it's quite rare (I believe I have 2 or 3). The only repro i'd consider is magical chase and I've never been made aware of one just yet.

Here is a picture of the order, all but 2 of the titles came from Jello, so thanks again man. I'll start with New Adventure island :P

IMG

Worked out good, thanks again!

HailingTheThings

Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 10:22 PMWorked out good, thanks again!
Did that Exile: Wicked Wild West come from JelloCutie? I might start crying. Might.
IMG

CrackTiger

It's sad that 1/2 to 2/3 of what you paid was for the cardboard boxes. :/
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

goldenpp72

Yes exile was one of his, Dead Moon and Dungeons and Dragons was from another seller, but the rest was from him. While not likely relevant here, I actually first learned of the TG16 when I realized Working Designs had published titles on that system, it's why I wanted to get it in the first place since I love their games. I managed to snag vasteel with the slip prior but, Exile will have to live shirtless :P

And I agree, the cost of the cardboard is sad, but it sure does look kinda cool.

HailingTheThings

I'm glad that I don't much care for cardboard, as that shit is ridiculously overpriced. The only ones I have aside from the two Sparky repros are Cosmic fantasy 2 and Sonic Spike. They will probably get raffled at some point... unless I run out of toilet paper some night, of course. :3
IMG

HailingTheThings

Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 10:50 PMYes exile was one of his, Dead Moon and Dungeons and Dragons was from another seller, but the rest was from him. While not likely relevant here, I actually first learned of the TG16 when I realized Working Designs had published titles on that system, it's why I wanted to get it in the first place since I love their games. I managed to snag vasteel with the slip prior but, Exile will have to live shirtless :P

And I agree, the cost of the cardboard is sad, but it sure does look kinda cool.
Give me your Exile.

Oops, double post. Sorry.

Please accept this hot picture as a formal apology:

IMG
IMG

goldenpp72

Would you say you plan to exile Cosmic fantasy and Sonic Spike cardboard?

HailingTheThings

Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 11:01 PMWould you say you plan to exile Cosmic fantasy and Sonic Spike cardboard?
Making teh jokes now, I see? Sure, why not? When will you be sending me that copy of Exile?
IMG

goldenpp72


geise

Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 10:22 PMIMG
LOL.  You dropped 3.6k on that lot and a system?

IMG 

Ok I think I'll now listen to Zeta for once and stop feeding the attention whore.

wiseau

you'd think 3.6 THOUSAND would get you more than a bunch of sports games but apparently not.

TheClash603

Quote from: wiseau on 06/10/2016, 12:24 AMyou'd think 3.6 THOUSAND would get you more than a bunch of sports games but apparently not.
No Splash Lake or Girly Games = Fail

goldenpp72

Quote from: wiseau on 06/10/2016, 12:24 AMyou'd think 3.6 THOUSAND would get you more than a bunch of sports games but apparently not.
Yeah that guy took me for a ride, I would have done better on eBay but I just couldn't wait :)

Gentlegamer

When someone asks for the definition of collectard just link to this thread.
IMG
Quote from: VenomMacbeth on 10/25/2015, 02:35 PMGentle with games, rough with collectards.  Riders gon riiiiide.

goldenpp72

I'm sure if someone offered those games to you for free (and you had to keep them) you would deny them in the spirit of not owning a lot of cool games. It's way better to just have a few  :-"

bob

i think a few of those were mine from my big sale last year.  anyway, just enjoy them, play them, discuss.
nice job on the tonma, soon people are going to be asking almost a third of what you payed for that game alone.

Medic_wheat

Quote from: geise on 06/10/2016, 12:04 AM
Quote from: goldenpp72 on 06/09/2016, 10:22 PMIMG
LOL.  You dropped 3.6k on that lot and a system?

IMG 

Ok I think I'll now listen to Zeta for once and stop feeding the attention whore.
There are some great games in there. I feel better that I am such a cheap bastard and pick out slowly.

Although sometimes I do things too slowly and prices get stupid for some games.

Gypsy

This thread really had it all I must say. A real page turner, even if I skimmed the super tl;dr posts from the op.

Quote from: Otaking on 06/08/2016, 07:49 AMI honestly think what gets people pissed on here is if a new member comes straight on here and heads straight for the trades section and starts a "WTB" thread, particularly requesting the rarez, it's a guaranteed flaming.
I don't understand why people don't get this but it happens time and time again. Even I waited a little before really trying to do that here, and all I really did was inquire about a CDROM2 iirc.

Quote from: gatsu25 on 06/07/2016, 05:10 AMI don't see any harm in somebody wanted to complete their collection.  He gets enjoyment out of it, whatever his reasons may be.  The Turbografx is expensive because it is hard stuff to find, and it is probably the best failed system to have ever existed.  It's not some conspiracy about people who are buying up all the games and screwing over the "real fans".

I honestly think its a bit sad that he is simply asking for the games he needs, and gets so much negativity.  I also don't think he needs to justify it like he has.

Some of this negativity towards collecting comes off as jealousy to me.
Whose sock is this?  :roll:

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 06/08/2016, 04:46 PMI'm making one post in this thread, this is it. I can't find the time to shit on every collectard these days because the fuckers are crawling out of the sewers and getting accounts faster than I can flame them. Seriously, where are they coming from? Is the youth of today really this lost? Don't they still make motorcycles and rock music and chicks? I'm genuinly sad.

Anyway, fuck this guy, obviously. But also, fuck all of YOU too because what this guy wants more than anything is validation. Obviously his primary means of achieving this is burying himself in old video game crap which is worshipful to people who get mad about Ghostbusters and look at shrinkwrap under a microscope to try to understand it. But when that fails the length of this thread fills in some gaps by letting him be the self designated martyr/hero for the NA mentality. Just look at how long his responses are. He *needs* this criticism to keep him going. You're feeding his teeny weeny little underdeveloped homunculus five pages of collectard junk food.
My favourite post in the thread I must say.