3 and 6 button controllers?

[GameFreak]

What games use the three button controllers? I know SF2 uses 6 button controller. Any other games use a six button layout?

[Arkhan Asylum]

Any other games use a six button layout?

Atlantian Guard does.

[nat]

What games use the three button controllers?

Any game that uses "SELECT" or "RUN" as an action button during gameplay (like the Gunhed/Soldier series, "SELECT" changes ship speed on a two button pad, on a three-button pad button III can change ship speed instead).

[Opethian]

Forgotton worlds uses a 3 button to turn counter/clockwise and fire.

[bartre]

I'm pretty sure that Dracula X can use a 3rd button to do the item crash.

[nat]

Absolutely. Like I said, ANY game that uses "SELECT" or "RUN" for an action can utilize a 3 button controller.

[GameFreak]

That's good to know. Is SF2 the only game for a 6 button controller?

[SignOfZeta]

Most of the later fighters use the 6 button pad. Advanced VG, Fatal Fury...I can't think of any non-fighters that use it.

I think this question is answered in Wataru's FAQ, but I'm on a phone right now so I can't easily check it.

[nat]

Most all of the fighters on the system use the 6 button pad. The exception that immediately comes to mind is Asuka.

[Arkhan Asylum]

Most all of the fighters on the system use the 6 button pad. The exception that immediately comes to mind is Asuka.

and, IMO, Asuka is the best fighter on the system prolly lol

[turbogrfxfan]

Most all of the fighters on the system use the 6 button pad. The exception that immediately comes to mind is Asuka.

and, IMO, Asuka is the best fighter on the system prolly lol

asuka is def one of my faves!!!

[Tatsujin]

Forgotton worlds uses a 3 button to turn counter/clockwise and fire.

For that game the ave 3 button-pad was made in the first place

[SignOfZeta]

Complete list of 6 button games:

STREET FIGHTER II'
Linda3
エメラルドドラゴン
プリンセスメーカー2
同級生
格闘覇王伝説アルガノス
マーシャルチャンピオン
アドヴァンストV.G.
スーパーリアル麻雀P-II/III カスタム
スーパーリアル麻雀P-V カスタム
マージャンソード・プリンセスクエスト外伝
餓狼伝説2
餓狼伝説 SPECIAL
カブキ一刀涼談
銀河お嬢様伝説ユナ2
龍虎の拳
ワールドヒーローズ2
ファイプロ女子憧夢超女対戦 全女vsJWP
フラッシュハイダース

I guess I was wrong about them all being fighting games. I didn't remember Yuna 2 using it. Why? It barely requires the 2 button on the standard pad. Didn't know about Emerald Dragon either. Super Real using it actually makes sense.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Can you post that list in English, Zeta?  This computer won't even show the characters, not that I could read any of 'em anyway.

Most all of the fighters on the system use the 6 button pad. The exception that immediately comes to mind is Asuka.

And Godzilla.

[JoshTurboTrollX]

Can you post that list in English, Zeta?  This computer won't even show the characters, not that I could read any of 'em anyway.

Most all of the fighters on the system use the 6 button pad. The exception that immediately comes to mind is Asuka.

And Godzilla.

And Fighting Street

From what I remember Ys IV also uses the 6 button controller for "hotkeying" some items or save spots in game. rather than going to the menu every time. 
 Can anyone confirm?

[SignOfZeta]

There are still machines out there without unicode fonts? Pathetic!

I will right click and Google these for you:

Street Fighter II'
Linda3
Emerald Dragon
Princess Maker 2
Graduation 2
Algunos
Martial Champion
Advance VG
Super Real Mahjongg P-V II/III Custom
Super Real Mahjongg P-V V Custom
Mahjongg Sword: Princess Quest Gaiden
Fatal Fury 2
Fatal Fury Special
Tengai Makyou - Kabuki Ittouryoudan
Yuna 2
Art of Fighting
World Heroes 2
that horrible female Firepro game for the Arcade Card
Flash Hiders

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Thanks for the translated list, Zeta.  Lots of fonts are 'unicode' fonts; the problem is that I'm running XP and haven't installed the Asian Language Pack (or whatever it's called).

From what I remember Ys IV also uses the 6 button controller for "hotkeying" some items or save spots in game. rather than going to the menu every time.  Can anyone confirm?

You are correct.

[hoobs88]

Strip Fighter is missing from that list.

[VestCunt]

Are old posts starting to drop off the board?  I made a list of all the 6-button, mouse, and MB128 compatible games in '05 or '06 and it's longer available here.  I've cited the thread twice since then but the links are now broken:

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=764&highlight=

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=764&highlight=&sid=d7cbdd847664834c7ee304cd250dede6

Help?


Moving on...

From what I remember Ys IV also uses the 6 button controller for "hotkeying" some items or save spots in game. rather than going to the menu every time. 
 Can anyone confirm?

Ys IV controls with six buttons:
#3:  item inventory
#4:  equip weapons and armor
#5:  save menu
#6:  load menu

[VestCunt]

OK, I think this is it:

After bringing up the question of "what games are Memory Base compatible?" on the "memory base games" thread sometime ago, i finally went through the complete lists of SCD and SCD/ACD games at PCECP and wrote down every game that uses a M128.  while i was at it, i also made note of the ones that use a 6 botton controller or the mouse.  I did NOT search through the normal CD games, the Hucards or the US released software because i assume that there are few, if any, games that use one of these 3 accesories on those formats (besides SF2). 
this was boring work, so let me know if you see any errors or if there are more games in the other formats that i should include.

M=Mouse
6=six botton controller
128=Memory Base 128

SCD Games
--------------
M         Tenka Tairan
M+128  Alll
6          Advanced VG
128      Aoki Ookami To Shiroki Mejika
128      Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon Collection
128       Emerald Dragon
M          Jantei Monogatari 3 Saber Angel
6          Kakutou Haou Densetsu Algunos
M          Lemmings
128       Magicoal
6          Martial Champions
M          Metal Angel
M          Nemurenumori No Chiisana Ohanashi
M          Power Golf 2
128       Sankokushi lll
128       Shin Megami Tensei
128       Tadaima Yusha Boshuuchuu
M          Tokimeki Memorial
6          Y's 4

SCD/ACD Games
--------------------
M+128      Atlas
M+128      Brandish
M+128      Eikan Wa Kimini
6+128       Linda Cube
6              Mahjong Sword Princess Quest Gaiden
128           Popful Mail
6+M+128  Princess Maker 2
128           Private Eye Doll
6+128       Super Real Mahjong P ll + lll Custom
6+128       "                           " PV Custom
128           Vasteel 2

ACD Games
--------------
3           World Heros 2
6           Fatal Fury 2
6           Fatal Fury Special
6           Art Of Fighting
6           Battlefield '94
6           Kabuki Itouryodan
6+128   Fire Pro Female Wrestling

Hucards
---------
6  Street Fighter 2 CE
6  Strip Fighter

[shubibiman]

The 6 button pad can be used in Emerald Dragon as shortcuts for menus ;)

[SignOfZeta]

Strip Fighter is missing from that list.

Good.

[hashiriya1]

I have a 3-button controller...always wondered what to use it for. Thanks!

[GameFreak]

Tell me about the Avenue pad please.
The 6 button Avenue pad has a little "A-B" switch. What is that for? Also is there a way to adjust turbo level for the 6 buttons? It looks like you can only adjust turbo on button 1 and button 2.

[nat]

A/B switch toggles between 2 and 6 button mode. And you are correct-- only buttons I and II have turbo adjustment switches. I can think of exactly zero instances where you'd ever need turbo functionality on buttons III-VI.

The Avenue 6 is a really great pad, but they should have added an option for 3-button mode in addition to 2 and 6. That would have been the ultimate Turbo controller right there.

[GameFreak]

ok thanks for the input. Would you recommend the avenue 6 button or the DUO-RX 6-button, or are they about the same as far as quality goes?

[nat]

As far as quality/durability goes, both are top-notch. I recommend the Ave 6 over the RX-6 though simply based on the way the d-pad feels.

[Duo_R]

I had no idea Ys IV used 6 button controller....thats awesome.

From what I remember Ys IV also uses the 6 button controller for "hotkeying" some items or save spots in game. rather than going to the menu every time. 
 Can anyone confirm?

Ys IV controls with six buttons:
#3:  item inventory
#4:  equip weapons and armor
#5:  save menu
#6:  load menu

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[GameFreak]

In the game Bloody Wolf, buttons I and II are for jump and shoot and the "run" button is used for grenade throwing. Does that mean Bloody Wolf would be a 3 button game?

Tg16 never had any 3 or 6 button controllers from what i remember it was only on PCengines.
I know there is a thread on swapping out wires from pcEngine controllers with TG16 controllers but how does this work with 3 and 6 button controllers?
If I swap out the wire from a pcEngine 3 or 6 button controller to fit into my TG16 will it work?

[Duo_R]

Yes and yes. U can also make an adapter for duo size controllers to fit tg16. Search for "duosado."

In the game Bloody Wolf, buttons I and II are for jump and shoot and the "run" button is used for grenade throwing. Does that mean Bloody Wolf would be a 3 button game?

Tg16 never had any 3 or 6 button controllers from what i remember it was only on PCengines.
I know there is a thread on swapping out wires from pcEngine controllers with TG16 controllers but how does this work with 3 and 6 button controllers?
If I swap out the wire from a pcEngine 3 or 6 button controller to fit into my TG16 will it work?

[GameFreak]

Anyone here have the Hori Commander 6 button?
Why is there 2 positions for 6 button mode? I'm guessing they were just being cheap with the switches hori was using. All the turbo switches next to it have three modes, so they probably just use the same parts. Im guessing there is no difference between the middle mode 6 button and the top mode 6 button. Does anyone know for sure?   

[Amadeusama]

マーシャルチャンピオン

I think that (Martial Champion) is a three button game, no?

[grahf]

I'm pretty sure that's the case, Gamefreak. I don't remember for sure, but probably confirmed it when I opened the thing to clean it.

[JoshTurboTrollX]

The 6 button pad can be used in Emerald Dragon as shortcuts for menus ;)

That is most excellent to know!!  I had no idea!!

[Mathius]

Which is the better three button controller? I can't remember.

[nat]

I like the size, shape and feel of the Blaster 3 button pads. The 3rd button toggle switch on these is also well hidden along the bottom edge of the controller.

On the other hand, the one and only Blaster I've ever owned just recently started exhibiting weird symptoms. Up won't work unless you press it really hard (or at the right angle), and games keep pausing randomly on their own (assuming because the "RUN" button keeps getting triggered somehow).

I took the thing apart and cleaned it (though it wasn't really dirty to begin with), made sure everything was in order, and put it back together but it still does this. I'm at the point where I think it might actually be some sort of logic or PCB issue.

Since this is the only Blaster I've ever owned, I have no idea if these things are prone to breakdown or if I just got unlucky. I've owned it for years, and if you'd asked me a year ago, I would've suggested the Blaster without thinking twice.

[PunkCryborg]

I like the look of the 3 button blaster pad and have been keeping my eyes peeled for a good deal on one. It looks very comfortable for those hardcore shooter sessions. I really like the Avenue 3 and 6 pads. The Ave 3 pad is nice cause it's a little wider then the Core Grafx pads and has a little more weight to it which makes it feal more solid. The Ave 6 pad is probably my fav though. It's very comfortable and once you use it for a while it's hard to go back to the Core pads, your hands will start cramping.

[Mathius]

Hmm...Blaster pads. Never heard of them I don't think. I have probably seen them but my brain didn't click.

[GameFreak]

I like the look of the 3 button blaster pad and have been keeping my eyes peeled for a good deal on one. 

These guys   http://www.shopncsx.com/pc-engineblasterjoypad.aspx  are in the US and still have some brand new boxed blaster pads. The price seems fair and shipping is cheap if you live in the US. I always wanted one of these but the 6 button pads/controllers are on my priority list now.

[Mathius]

I like the look of the 3 button blaster pad and have been keeping my eyes peeled for a good deal on one. 

These guys   http://www.shopncsx.com/pc-engineblasterjoypad.aspx  are in the US and still have some brand new boxed blaster pads. The price seems fair and shipping is cheap if you live in the US. I always wanted one of these but the 6 button pads/controllers are on my priority list now.

Wow! I think I might try one. Thanks!

[Mathius]

I bought that Blaster pad at the NCS site. Nat, this might be a good way to replace your worn one. It was about $28 after shipping. Just make sure to scan the shipping page as they seem to use UPS by default. The USPS options need to be selected down the page some.

[GameFreak]

It was about $28 after shipping. Just make sure to scan the shipping page as they seem to use UPS by default. The USPS options need to be selected down the page some. 

Did you get express priority mail?

Here is their ebay site http://cgi.ebay.com/PC-Engine-Blaster-Joypad-New-Boxed-Japanese-Import-/200326195667?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item2ea45f29d3  . It shows shipping at $3.90. It should be 18.90+3.90 on their website. If you call them they will ship it media-mail for about $2, even though I don't think it is actually "media" though. 

It looks like they have 5 left in stock. Maybe I should grab one before they're gone.

[Mathius]

It was about $28 after shipping. Just make sure to scan the shipping page as they seem to use UPS by default. The USPS options need to be selected down the page some. 

Did you get express priority mail?

Here is their ebay site http://cgi.ebay.com/PC-Engine-Blaster-Joypad-New-Boxed-Japanese-Import-/200326195667?pt=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item2ea45f29d3  . It shows shipping at $3.90. It should be 18.90+3.90 on their website. If you call them they will ship it media-mail for about $2, even though I don't think it is actually "media" though. 

It looks like they have 5 left in stock. Maybe I should grab one before they're gone.

That's probably for Media Mail most definitely. Thanks for the link again.

[nat]

Another interesting note on the ACE Blaster is that the exact same pad was also released for the Genesis. The only difference is the connector at the end of the cable and a Slow Motion toggle where the "SELECT" button is on the Duo version.

http://segaretro.org/File:Blaster_Black.jpg

[Mathius]

Another interesting note on the ACE Blaster is that the exact same pad was also released for the Genesis. The only difference is the connector at the end of the cable and a Slow Motion toggle where the "SELECT" button is on the Duo version.

http://segaretro.org/File:Blaster_Black.jpg

Heh, that's original. But hey if it works. I am trusting you on this one nat. It better be teh awesome! Really though thanks again for your suggestion bud.

Yeah GameFreak I had it shipped via Priority.

[csgx1]

The Blaster pad looks like a nicely shaped controller.  I'm curious to know how the d-pad feels.  It looks very similar to the original NES d-pad.

I'm assuming it's not made by NEC.....Anyone know who makes it?

[rag-time4]

I can think of exactly zero instances where you'd ever need turbo functionality on buttons III-VI.

I was just thinking about this, and there is definitely a use for turbo switches on other buttons. With a default button layout in Street Fighter II', the I and II buttons that have turbo are roundhouse (hard) kick and forward (medium) kick. None of the punch buttons have turbo, so if you were playing characters like blanka or honda you wont be able to use turbo to activate electricity or the hundred hand slap.

Also since jab (light) punch and short (light) kick do not have turbo, characters like ryu, ken, or zangief cant use turbo to execute rapid shorts or jabs.

[nat]

The Blaster pad looks like a nicely shaped controller.  I'm curious to know how the d-pad feels.  It looks very similar to the original NES d-pad.

I'm assuming it's not made by NEC.....Anyone know who makes it?

Another interesting note on the ACE Blaster [...]

Interestingly enough, the feel of the D-Pad is indeed similar to that of a standard NES pad.

[DragonmasterDan]

I like the size, shape and feel of the Blaster 3 button pads. The 3rd button toggle switch on these is also well hidden along the bottom edge of the controller.

On the other hand, the one and only Blaster I've ever owned just recently started exhibiting weird symptoms. Up won't work unless you press it really hard (or at the right angle), and games keep pausing randomly on their own (assuming because the "RUN" button keeps getting triggered somehow).

I took the thing apart and cleaned it (though it wasn't really dirty to begin with), made sure everything was in order, and put it back together but it still does this. I'm at the point where I think it might actually be some sort of logic or PCB issue.

Since this is the only Blaster I've ever owned, I have no idea if these things are prone to breakdown or if I just got unlucky. I've owned it for years, and if you'd asked me a year ago, I would've suggested the Blaster without thinking twice.

I also like the Blaster 3, it looks a bit small but handles extremely well.

[GameFreak]

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEC-PC-Engine-Duo-R-Bundle-46-Game-Bundle-Turbo-Duo-PCE-/110722962690?pt=Video_Games&hash=item19c79a5502
-Whats up with the black and purple controller in this pic. Instead of turbo switches it has turbo buttons? Knock off?
-Also check out the boxed item marked "wireless joystick" made by Wontec. I would love to see whats in that box or possibly bid on it if it was sold separately from the lot. If anyone here gets the lot, I'll buy that wireless joystick from them!