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PC Engine console, IFU & CDRom2 + controllers & games - US Seller (Ohio)

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ScarletFever

PC Engine console with original box, controller & manual.

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Interface Unit with original box

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CDRom2 with original box & system card 1.0

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4 Turbopads with 2 original boxes (plus 2 additional Turbopads with the I button not working 6 pads total)

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Multitap with original box (plus additional non working multitap)

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7 CD games + 4 HU card games

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Valis II, Wonder Boy III, Bikkuri Man Daijikai, Fighting Street, Red Alert, Final Zone II, Super Darius

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USA Basketball, Beach Volleyball, War of the Dead, Super Fire Pro Wrestling (With moves manual from a PC Engine Magazine that I wrote notes in)

Looking to sell as a set, but will break apart if necessary.  No manual with IFU & CDRom2.  No RF unit with console. 

E-mail me offers or questions gobux@neo.rr.com

Rated 100% on eBay as scarlilt thanks!
Gaming since pong (miss those days)...

Arkhan Asylum

goddamN! where were you like 2 weeks ago rofl.

Where in Ohio is this located?

If the price is right, maybe I can come just pick the thing up.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

Mishran

If I had the time to spare, with working 7 f@cking days a week, I'd be taking a day out for a road trip to Ohio myself for this!

Arkhan Asylum

itd be funny if he leaves near cleveland.  id be like VOROM VROOOOOOM and gets me some moar OBEY
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

incrediblehark

Man hope you scoop this up Arkhan! Depending on price, looks like a nice set. Wishing I had the boxed IFU :(

ScarletFever

I'm in North Central Ohio, near Cedar Point.  I'm not in an urgent hurry to sell this so I can be patient for the right offer when folks either have the time or $ available.

On a personal note, I bought all of this when I was a teenager from a Japanese video game store in California.

This is and always will be my favorite video game system of all time, because I was the only kid in the area to have anything like it.  My friends were bumbling around with Sega & Nintendo while I showed them this 'Japanese system that played games the size of credit cards' and they all flipped out.  When I also bought and attached the CDRom system (remember at the time there wasn't really anything like it on a console) half of the high school about had a heart attack.

I spent many a night with 4 other pals playing Motoroader, Soccer, Fire Pro Wrestling, Beach Volleyball and Power League until the sun came up.  Playing RPG's was a b*#^h sometimes since everything was in Japanese, but it was fun nonetheless...

For the life of me I can't find my manuals to the IFU or CDRom or else it would be a collector's dream.  Still it's a very nice working set considering I've had it around the past 21 years or so.

I'm getting old...
Gaming since pong (miss those days)...

Arkhan Asylum

Thankfully, that is pretty close to my hood. 

About an hour away or so!

So, hopefully my offer sticks!

Anything I don't end up keeping will be turned back around to the rest of you guys :) 

I won't RoyVegas it either.  The stuff I don't end up keeping will be sold or traded for fair amounts. Nothing stupid.

:)  I will say that I don't need Final Zone 2 or Monster Lair, so if anyones interested in those, and I am who gets all these things, let me know. 

This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

SMF

Awesome set, Just got a briefcase unit from Keith Courage last week so good luck to whom ever picks it up.
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munchiaz

Quote from: guest on 12/09/2011, 02:25 PMThankfully, that is pretty close to my hood. 

About an hour away or so!

So, hopefully my offer sticks!

Anything I don't end up keeping will be turned back around to the rest of you guys :) 

I won't RoyVegas it either.  The stuff I don't end up keeping will be sold or traded for fair amounts. Nothing stupid.

:)  I will say that I don't need Final Zone 2 or Monster Lair, so if anyones interested in those, and I am who gets all these things, let me know. 
i need IB for monsters lair. i can buy your copy then raffle off my cd only if you give me a good deal

incrediblehark

I would love a white pad with turbo either boxed or unboxed if you don't need them all

F1IndyFan

In the Yo (Youngstown, Ohio) and have been looking for PC-Engine stuff for months now. Wish you would've been selling stuff like a month and a half ago. Just picked up a Duo-R on an eBay side deal, then sent it to Keith Courage to have it modded. If you're selling some of your stuff individually, I'm game for the Duotap, a controller, and a few games.

SignOfZeta

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ScarletFever

Hey folks.

If any of you want individual items please email me or send a PM with an offer.

I promise I'm not going to drag this out for weeks and Arkhan has been good with communication, so I'm not going to leave him hanging.  I'm going to leave this available until Wednesday or so.

E-mail me with any questions gobux@neo.rr.com

Thanks & take care.
Gaming since pong (miss those days)...

rag-time4

Quote from: ScarletFever on 12/09/2011, 01:18 PMFor the life of me I can't find my manuals to the IFU or CDRom or else it would be a collector's dream.  Still it's a very nice working set considering I've had it around the past 21 years or so.

I'm getting old...
Hey Scarlet glad you made it over!

If you still had those manuals teh lot wouldve been sold already!

If you ever do find em i hope youll try to track down the buyer of the lot.

One thing i'm curious about in the lot is that little technical manual for the CDROM2

ScarletFever

Quote from: rag-time4 on 12/11/2011, 06:22 PM
Hey Scarlet glad you made it over!

If you still had those manuals teh lot wouldve been sold already!

If you ever do find em i hope youll try to track down the buyer of the lot.

One thing i'm curious about in the lot is that little technical manual for the CDROM2[/quote]
Truth.  Not sure where they are.  If I do find them later in life I'll come back here to locate whoever I sold it to.  I dug so deep in the old closets I was kicking up old Intellivision controller inserts.  No luck.

As far as that manual, I think it was a PC Engine magazine insert from back in the day.  I remember 2 PC Engine magazines I subscribed to.  One of them had a cartoon gorilla (someone here should know what I'm talking about) and the insert was from that magazine.

I may have the bundle sold soon, but I don't think the person buying it is attached to that insert if you want to discuss it.  If I make a final deal with a buyer I'll have to see what they think of course.

Thanks for letting me know this forum was back up.
Gaming since pong (miss those days)...

Arkhan Asylum

FYI:  I'm all set to pick this up tomorrow.

I will be shredding the insert, because I feel like it.

Just kidding.   I'll probably keep it, but will scan it for everyone else to enjoy.

Then I will be playing Red Alert in English and Japanese simultaneously
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

rag-time4

Arkhan, hope youll share the price after everything is picked up and finalized, for community reference.

Arkhan Asylum

This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

Arkhan Asylum

**cash in pocket**

Later today fellas, this beastly hoard of stuff is mine to OBEY with.

Should I seriously film Red Alert and Led Arert being played simultaneously?

I own the English one, and here is the Japanese one now too.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

roflmao

I'd watch it.  But I'm a sucker for just about any video posted on these forums. :P

bartre

last alert is one of the best games i've played on the system, maybe not on a technical level, but i had loads of fun playing it.
wish i had it, maybe it's sitting under my tree...

anyway, yeah, i'd watch it, i like looking at differences between regions

Arkhan Asylum

Got the goods, all in great shape!

The total cost was 300$ even. 

Bikkuriman World is weird and kind of scary.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

incrediblehark


Arkhan Asylum

Yeah! so I hear you need a controller, I have about 349 of them now, so uh.  yeah! Do you need one?
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

bartre

how is war of the dead? i've been meaning to try that one.

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: bartre on 12/18/2011, 01:32 AMhow is war of the dead? i've been meaning to try that one.
It's hard if you can't read Japanese, but it is a pretty sweet game.  It's alot like Zelda II game play wise actually.   The battles are side scroller action scenes where you shoot the living shit out of stuff.

This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

incrediblehark

Quote from: guest on 12/18/2011, 12:53 AMYeah! so I hear you need a controller, I have about 349 of them now, so uh.  yeah! Do you need one?
Sure do, less yellowed the better but I won't be too picky about it.

Arkhan Asylum

Ill dig through and find a good one.

i guess I should mention, I have duplicates of some of these games now (oops), so if anyone wants stuff from the lot, I'm open to trading, etc. for the stuff.  I'm basically price quoting based off Game Of Japan's prices.

so, shoot me a PM if you want anything.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

ScarletFever

Good to meet you Arkhan.  Hope you enjoy, it's good to know someone your age appreciates the great games and systems from my 'old' era.  It's a nice hobby to have, trust me I grew up as addicted as they come.  Don't ever let anyone tell you different.

Yes I can confirm $300 and Arkhan was a great buyer communicated well and paid as agreed.

Hey Ragtime I just found my manuals for the IFU & CDRom, they were underneath a bunch of old Intellivision game boxes.

j/k
Gaming since pong (miss those days)...

ScarletFever

Quote from: guest on 12/17/2011, 04:21 AMBikkuriman World is weird and kind of scary.
It's like Inuyasha meets Mah Jong meets Twilight Zone meets stupidity.

War of the Dead about made me try to learn Japanese in hs.  Frustrating because I'd wander around for hours and without knowing I'd trade in a bazooka for a cap gun.
Gaming since pong (miss those days)...

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: ScarletFever on 12/18/2011, 02:50 PMWar of the Dead about made me try to learn Japanese in hs.  Frustrating because I'd wander around for hours and without knowing I'd trade in a bazooka for a cap gun.
Been there, done that.

The game is pretty fun though.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

Arkhan Asylum

So, the friend whom I mainly picked this stuff up for (AKA: "dude! YEAH a pce + CD! i'm in! Pick it up ill pay you back") Looks like he might be flaking the hell out.

so... anyone possibly interested in this briefcase? I will be keeping the boxes/paperwork for myself to go with my own briefcase.

but it looks like the system, some of the controllers (I'll be keeping a few as spares), and most of the games are going to be up for grabs unless he stops dicking off.

As you know, I paid 300$ for the whole lot, so don't expect me RoyVegasing.  I'll be pricing anything out of this lot based off of that price.  I priced the games at roughly 100 bucks themselves.  I'm keeping Darius, Fighting Street, Volleyball and Basketball. 

I might keep Red Alert even though I have the US version.

note to self: My friends are dumbasses.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

Bernie


munchiaz


ScarletFever

Arkhan I was going to suggest to mods to close this thread since the sale's over, but since you have some unfinished business due to your pal ducking out on you, I'll just leave it to you to take this thread on home.  Cool?

Thanks for the feedback on the other forum.  I'm selling my 3DO lot now if you know of a good forum to list that on, or know someone interested please let me know.  Good luck and enjoy.
Gaming since pong (miss those days)...

Arkhan Asylum

Yeah my friend is a moron.

On the bright side, I did set up the whole thing and played it for a few hours, so everything works.

I'll probably dismantle and clean the controllers and see if I can get the goony ones up and running again.

As for 3DO, I have no idea.  I never got into that one.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

ScarletFever

I did a basic clean on the 'goony' 2 controllers and still couldn't get that I button to work.  You may also get that second multitap to work as well with any luck.
Gaming since pong (miss those days)...

SignOfZeta

Well, was there ever a better system to get stuck with multiples of? I think not.
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esteban

Quote from: guest on 12/20/2011, 05:17 PMI might keep Red Alert even though I have the US version.
Hell yes—keep it for the alternate versions of the songs with vocal trax! I call them Bowie's song and Momoko's song because I'm a simpleton. It's fun to compare the US vs JP vocals because they never grow old (for me, anyway).

The artwork in the manual is kinda nice, too. Makes you wish they put more effort into the game itself.
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Nazi NecroPhile

Quote from: esteban on 12/22/2011, 07:50 AMI call them Bowie's song and Momoko's song because I'm a simpleton.
Haward Bowie and Momoco Ring from Final Zone II make guest appearances in Red Alert?
Ultimate Forum Bully/Thief/Saboteur/Clone Warrior! BURN IN HELL NECROPHUCK!!!

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: ScarletFever on 12/22/2011, 02:07 AMI did a basic clean on the 'goony' 2 controllers and still couldn't get that I button to work.  You may also get that second multitap to work as well with any luck.
I'll see what kind of luck I have.  :D

As for having multiples, yeah, its fun to have more than one, but I'd rather not just have one sitting there looking pretty on my shelf if someone else can use it immediately.

This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

rag-time4

Quote from: guest on 12/22/2011, 10:05 AM
Quote from: ScarletFever on 12/22/2011, 02:07 AMI did a basic clean on the 'goony' 2 controllers and still couldn't get that I button to work.  You may also get that second multitap to work as well with any luck.
So, the friend whom I mainly picked this stuff up for (AKA: "dude! YEAH a pce + CD! i'm in! Pick it up ill pay you back") Looks like he might be flaking the hell out.

so... anyone possibly interested in this briefcase? I will be keeping the boxes/paperwork for myself to go with my own briefcase.
Will be sad to see such a nice condition matching serial set get broken up!!

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: rag-time4 on 12/22/2011, 10:08 PM
Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 12/22/2011, 10:05 AM
Quote from: ScarletFever on 12/22/2011, 02:07 AMI did a basic clean on the 'goony' 2 controllers and still couldn't get that I button to work.  You may also get that second multitap to work as well with any luck.
So, the friend whom I mainly picked this stuff up for (AKA: "dude! YEAH a pce + CD! i'm in! Pick it up ill pay you back") Looks like he might be flaking the hell out.

so... anyone possibly interested in this briefcase? I will be keeping the boxes/paperwork for myself to go with my own briefcase.
Will be sad to see such a nice condition matching serial set get broken up!!
I'm le dumb.  Which serials match?  I was actually going to keep this one and sell the other one I have that I got from HenryCSC since I like this one better. 

Technically I have two different setups.  ScarletFever's is IFU-30.  HenryCSC's was IFU-30A.  The only difference I spotted other than the power bricks, is that the briefcase lid is different. 

I like it saying IFU-30 in big 1980s font more than the CD-ROMROM logo on it.

and I think the IFU color scheme is green for the regular and gray for the A. 

They are both extremely badass though.  I took it to work and showed it off.  It earned me overlord status among all the gamertypes at work.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

rag-time4

Quote from: guest on 12/23/2011, 05:08 AM
Quote from: rag-time4 on 12/22/2011, 10:08 PM
Quote from: guest on 12/22/2011, 10:05 AM
Quote from: ScarletFever on 12/22/2011, 02:07 AMI did a basic clean on the 'goony' 2 controllers and still couldn't get that I button to work.  You may also get that second multitap to work as well with any luck.
So, the friend whom I mainly picked this stuff up for (AKA: "dude! YEAH a pce + CD! i'm in! Pick it up ill pay you back") Looks like he might be flaking the hell out.

so... anyone possibly interested in this briefcase? I will be keeping the boxes/paperwork for myself to go with my own briefcase.
Will be sad to see such a nice condition matching serial set get broken up!!
I'm le dumb.  Which serials match?  I was actually going to keep this one and sell the other one I have that I got from HenryCSC since I like this one better.  

Technically I have two different setups.  ScarletFever's is IFU-30.  HenryCSC's was IFU-30A.  The only difference I spotted other than the power bricks, is that the briefcase lid is different.  

I like it saying IFU-30 in big 1980s font more than the CD-ROMROM logo on it.

and I think the IFU color scheme is green for the regular and gray for the A.  

They are both extremely badass though.  I took it to work and showed it off.  It earned me overlord status among all the gamertypes at work.
Arkhan, Scarlet sold you three matching sets:

IFU: one sticker under console unit, one sticker on box cover

CD-ROM2: one sticker under console unit, one sticker on box cover

PCE: one sticker under console unit, one sticker on box cover, one sticker on manual front cover.

Arkhan Asylum

Oh, do you mean keeping the boxes and selling the hardware?
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

rag-time4

Quote from: guest on 12/23/2011, 01:22 PMOh, do you mean keeping the boxes and selling the hardware?
Yeah, its pretty hard to find matching sets

Arkhan Asylum

Well, its not like I've split it up yet.. 

I actually have it all set up here, with the one I got from HenryCSC sitting unattached. :)
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

henrycsc

Yeah, I actually offered on the set (mainly for just the boxed CDRom2) but ended up backing out only because of the missing manuals.  Even so, it's a great set, so I wouldn't split the hardware from the boxes myself.  The CDRom2 prob needs a gear mod if it's gonna be playing Insanity soundtracks on repeat loop.  :)
Wanted:
Bootleg Hucards (Hong Kong, China)
Third Party Hardware (US, Japan, China, Europe, Korea)
Canadian Boxes and Manuals (French text)
Ton's of Trades available - just PM me.

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: henrycsc on 12/24/2011, 08:00 AMYeah, I actually offered on the set (mainly for just the boxed CDRom2) but ended up backing out only because of the missing manuals.  Even so, it's a great set, so I wouldn't split the hardware from the boxes myself.  The CDRom2 prob needs a gear mod if it's gonna be playing Insanity soundtracks on repeat loop.  :)
I think I'll be keeping this one and giving Bernie the one you sold me, lol.

so, no need to play Insanity soundtracks on loop in it :D
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

rag-time4

Quote from: henrycsc on 12/24/2011, 08:00 AMYeah, I actually offered on the set (mainly for just the boxed CDRom2) but ended up backing out only because of the missing manuals.
Same here