Prospect of Making Some OMG RAREZ! Game Boots

[jayamine]

Anyone else out there have Dynastic? Might need a better back insert scan than mine can provide. (Has some wear from switching cases over the decades)

[jayamine]

I can do the following myself: Dynastic, Shadowgate, Bonk 3 CD, Dungeon Explorer II, Exile 2 (minus sleeve - mine is pretty rough), Might & Magic 3. Wish I'd never sold my Super Air Zonk. Never owned Godzilla or Cotton (Might need assistance with those two).

[Bernie]

Are you saying you are going to scan all those yourself, or look into getting some booties pressed?

[jayamine]

I have all of those (except Zonk, Cotton, and Godzilla ... I never should've sold Zonk). I'll just have to be very ginger when pulling apart the booklets for scanning. I have no intention to burn anything. If I can find professional pressing and printing services, however, I'll see what I can do.

[MotherGunner]

Wouldn't the professional printing company also do the insert scanning themselves?

[jayamine]

Probably, but I could do back inserts myself if it ends up being cheaper. (I have a wonderful graphic designer and access to a college art department at my disposal. They'd be pretty close to perfect)

I'm slightly worried I'd get fined, but I really doubt anyone would care/notice two decades ex-post-facto. I'll find someway to put in discreet watermarks so they don't get confused with originals (and remove original copyright info), but  it will still practically double the number of available units on the market. Aside from fine print jargon, they'd be practically indistinguishable. I bet it will drive the prices down on a lot of those games. (I'll repeat: I can't do Godzilla, Super ZOnk, or Cotton since I don't ahve those 3 ... and I can't do Bonk 3CD unless my local friend decides to sell/trade it back to me *grumble* for an exorbitant profit I'm sure)

I think it might be a good idea to start with Dynastic. I'd want to charge just a little over cost, so i can pay people to start putting together graphic design/translation work for one of the imports like SO2 or SFZ. (Volunteers are fine, but people seem to work more efficiently when they're getting paid)

Question: Does US Terraforming count as one of the rare ones?

And who here found a pressing company that could do 500 copies for a thousand? And would ratio still work at 300 copies for $600?

[Mathius]

Probably, but I could do back inserts myself if it ends up being cheaper. (I have a wonderful graphic designer and access to a college art department at my disposal. They'd be pretty close to perfect)

I'm slightly worried I'd get fined, but I really doubt anyone would care/notice two decades ex-post-facto. I'll find someway to put in discreet watermarks so they don't get confused with originals (and remove original copyright info), but  it will still practically double the number of available units on the market. Aside from fine print jargon, they'd be practically indistinguishable. I bet it will drive the prices down on a lot of those games. (I'll repeat: I can't do Godzilla, Super ZOnk, or Cotton since I don't ahve those 3 ... and I can't do Bonk 3CD unless my local friend decides to sell/trade it back to me *grumble* for an exorbitant profit I'm sure)

I think it might be a good idea to start with Dynastic. I'd want to charge just a little over cost, so i can pay people to start putting together graphic design/translation work for one of the imports like SO2 or SFZ. (Volunteers are fine, but people seem to work more efficiently when they're getting paid)

Question: Does US Terraforming count as one of the rare ones?

And who here found a pressing company that could do 500 copies for a thousand? And would ratio still work at 300 copies for $600?

You need to talk to Arkhan or Old Rover regarding a pressing facility.

[jayamine]

Still waiting for someone to jump out and scream at me for conspiring to commit crimes against humanity. I'll ask them. You sure they won't run me off for asking about games like Dynastic that already exist? (Guess all I can do is try)

This is exactly the kind of thing I asked TZD to do for MAG1, but then that was a decade ago now.

[SignOfZeta]

OK, let me explain how to properly jack other people's shit.

As someone who has a lot of legit and non-legit stuff in the way of video games, records, model kits, movies, etc I can tell you there are ways of doing this kind of thing, and ways to not do it.

What you want to do is illegal, but hardly immoral. Your goal should be to piss off as few people as possible, and I'm pretty sure you can do this without issue. Copyright law pretty much relies on someone suing you directly. Avoid pushing people's buttons and they won't care about you pirating an ancient game nobody gives a shit about.

First off, don't go to a CD manufacturer and say, "Here is someone else's complete retail product, which is now a valuable collectible. Could you please blatantly pirate hundreds of copies for me? I need you to scan the manual, the CD, everything. Thanks!" You don't even have to actually talk to someone there to know they aren't supposed to do that. Just get a copy of their terms of service. You need to deliver them an ISO and a PDF. That's it. As far as they know, you made it.

Secondly, file all the numbers off it. Remove all the copyright info. This seems counterintuitive to some people at first, but its one thing to steal someone's shit, its another to say they made the thing, to say that this fake thing came from them, when it didn't.

Third, make it IMPOSSIBLE to confuse with the real thing. Don't be "subtle" at all. Put something like "Fan Produced Unofficial Product" on every single page, the CD, everything. Also, don't produce crap like obi or reply cards because, by nature, only legit products have such things. You need to make is painfully obvious that this is NOT the real thing. Everyone who buys it needs to understand it is fake fake fake. It doesn't have to be ugly at all, but it has to be PROMINENT. If you hide it, at all, the eBay re-sellers will hide it completely.

Its absolutely impossible that a few dozen of these things won't end up on eBay for stupid prices. Hell, recently a forum member here bought up all the leftover fake Sapphires, ones that didn't even have cases, and had misprinted CDs, GAVE THEM AWAY FOR FREE and STILL they are showing up on eBay for actual money. This was Sapphire too. Most US collectors are too obsessed with paying $100 for Bomberman 93 to even know that Sapphire exists. A boot of something like Dynastic Hero...these fuckers will be on eBay, and they will be $100 each. And hey, that's fine, there's nothing you can do about it. What you can assure though is that nobody who can read will think this is a real product. The Sapphire boots were incredibly authentic looking. DON'T DO THIS.

Here is an example of a bootleg album I have:

This is the original LP of New Order BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert:



This concert LP was not released for sale in the US. It did come out in the UK on CD and LP, but it was quite heavily edited. Someone besides the BBC also recorded the concert (the quality sucks) and they made it a 2LP so the entire thing with all the idiotic between-song banter and profanity that results from being pumped full of drugs. In fact, "Pumped full of Drugs" would have been a good name for this, but they used that for the concert video instead.

Here is the bootleg:



Who is going to be pissed off about this product? Nobody. Meanwhile, the fans get what they want from it. This sort of thing is VERY common with bootleg live releases.

Another example: Old school anime fan subs.

Back in the early/mid 90s when the US anime industry was almost non-existent there was a huge tape trading scene in the American fan community. These people were true heroes. If there was a show people were dying to see (ie: Gundam) they would spend the $800 on the import laserdiscs for the entire series, find a translator, and made fansubs of the series. They would usually use a nice LD deck, a TelevEyes/Pro, and an Amiga (later, Sub Station Alpha in Windows 95) to make S-VHS "masters" which would then go to regional distributors who would duplicate to standard VHS and bring the stuff to conventions or accept mail order for only the price of the tapes and shipping.

Ok, so its an anarchical-synidcaist utopia, right? Well, the problem is that once these tapes were out there they could be duplicated forever. Meanwhile at the "normal" scifi and comic conventions the bootleggers who roamed those places, and had some of the largest booths, would duplicate the shit with fake covers and charge as much as $40 per tape. They didn't make the show, they didn't translate the show, they just skipped right to the "profit" stage...fuck those guys.

However, all was not lost. If someone bought one of these tapes the first thing they say when they played it was a message put there by the actual fansubber, layed right over the opening credits, saying, "Hey, this is a fan sub. Not for resale. If you payed for it you got RIPPED OFF. Contact us@ouremail.fan.com for info.!" So even if a guy got the sub this way, there is no reason he should get his next one the same way. This steers him away from the bootlegger sleaze and towards the real fans.

Another example of blatant piracy done right: Garage Kits.

Fans of games, anime, Alien, whatever, like to have model kits of their favorite robots, monsters, skanky ninja, whatever. These days you can't sell jack shit without a license, but often times the official products lack something. Usually this is bottom line related.

This is where the garage kit industry comes in. If you want a model of something, and an official one was never made, some small fan circle may have made one themselves, usually from resin. How do they avoid being sued? Keep the numbers limited and don't directly compete with any real products that might exist.

The biggest modeling franchise in the world is Gundam. Bandai makes a SHITLOAD of official kits, but they have a pretty mainstream market in mind. What if you want a model of an MS that was never made? What if it was made, but it was shitty, or too small, or long out of production? Well, a company like G System, SMS, Vicious Project, Neograde, etc might make it for you instead, unlicensed of course. How do they avoid pissing off Bandai? Well, many times it will be in a weird scale. Most everything Gundam from Bandai is 1/60, 1/100, or 1/144 scale, with a few 1/220 stuff and even smaller for ships and things. The garage kit companies generally avoid these scales as to not compete directly. When they do make something 1/100 these days its usually a conversion kit that requires you buy another model, an official one from Bandai, to get the inner frame and other bits. This way Bandai still gets a sale and they have no right to complain.

If you want the one on the right, you have to buy the one on the left first:



Because of these efforts of politeness its easy to get hundreds of unlicensed Gundam models, and the end result is that the hardcore scene is entirely dependent on the legit and the bootleg. The most impressive Gundam kits ever, at this point, are mostly garage kits now. The "Real EX-S", for example, is the best fucking thing ever. Bandai could never make something LIKE THIS and thats OK in their book. Being 1/35 scale it takes up an entire corner of your house, it requires a huge amount of skill to build, and it costs $2,225. Everyone wins.

The other important thing about garage kits, and I suggest you follow suit, is to make them all in one limited batch, take preorders, and sell them all out at once. Most garage kits sold at shows in Japan are limited to 200 pieces and once they are gone they are gone.

Lastly, I would HIGHLY suggest you don't do Dynastic Hero, Bonk CD, etc. As fun as it would be to erode the value of the originals, these products did see an official release. Space Fantasy Zone was NEVER released, ANYWHERE. US, Japan, anywhere. Therefore, while your bootleg would still be a bootleg, it wouldn't be competing with anyone's real deal. Make garage kits of Gundam that Bandai never made mainstream versions of, to use an analogy. I think the world at large is more badly in need of playing unreleased games, prototypes, and fan translations than it is of playing Airzonk CD...which sucks anyway.

[jayamine]

You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship.
Now see, true power is derived from a mandate of the masses.

[jperryss]

You're fooling yourself. We're living in a dictatorship.
Now see, true power is derived from a mandate of the masses.

Not from some farcical aquatic ceremony?

[jayamine]

If I went around claiming I owned SFZ because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd lock me up.

[mlbfan10]

Are these just going to be in the CD format?

[jayamine]

I can't think of any other format they'd be in (pressed, NOT burned). Talk to Arkhan at Aetherbutt if you're interested in reproduced Hus. Please LMK if I'm misunderstanding your question.

Zeta, the only problem with SFZ is all the extra production work. Dynastic I can virtually do by myself. I can't do all the graphic design and ROM patching work for SFZ. (I don't know how to do a lot of that stuff, and between my job and my post-grad work, I'm not sure where I'll find time to learn.)

I could do the 6 existing "rare" SCDs I own, and it sounds like the pressing price would be cheap. I can swing $600 to $700 per run until I make back cost. (Come to think of it, I have two friends, both within 2 hours of me, that have the other 4 rare SCDs)

Even beyond SFZ, I don't have originals of Xak 3 and Startling Odyssey 2. I don't have access to the booklets, or inserts, or any of the graphics. The Ys 4 is the most tempting of all (for me personally - my very first import ever. I was 14.). But with Xseed virtually guaranteed to pick it up for Vita this year (and sweet Jesus I can't wait), that might really run into problems. Plus with games like Xak and Ys, the translators are around here somewhere, are't they? I guess I'd have to contract for royalties.

And BTW Zeta, you have no idea how much I'd LOVE to drag down the overpricing on those ten games. (Didn't this convo start on a price gouging thread anyway?)

[BigusSchmuck]

This point may have been made already, but I would suggest pressing games that we know for certain haven't been released on these newer consoles. As much as I would love to see Cotton and Bonk 3 (just look at the ebay prices on these bad boys, 200-400 dollars good lord) make it to the presser, these games most certainly have semi recent ports done to them and could result in a Cease and Desist order. Speaking of the above, I believe Beyond Shadowgate hasn't gotten a modern port, so that may be something to shoot for.

[mlbfan10]

Yes answerd my question. I was wondering if it was just cd or hucard was going to be made.

[jayamine]

Bigus, quit discouraging me. I'm trying to build up my courage to commit illegal acts that will make me a hero among the Turbo community. Anyway, they can't cease and desist me if the stock is already dispersed. At that point, they can fine me. Anyway, I figure I'll get as far as the pressing company, and I'll be shot down there.

Now here's an idea. How would everyone feel about Beyond Shadowgate in a single disc jewel case? It would come with out the (ugly) poster. There'd be no way to confuse it with the original then.

By the way Bigus, is your name a reference to Life of Brian?

[SignOfZeta]

Zeta, the only problem with SFZ is all the extra production work. Dynastic I can virtually do by myself. I can't do all the graphic design and ROM patching work for SFZ. (I don't know how to do a lot of that stuff, and between my job and my post-grad work, I'm not sure where I'll find time to learn.)

Someone, I think it was maybe Necromancer, has already worked on SFZ. Maybe it was earlier in this thread? Anyway, you are over-thinking this. You don't need to make a 32 page instruction book with original art or anything. Just make...something. Any number of people here would be glad to make a PDF for you.

Even beyond SFZ, I don't have originals of Xak 3 and Startling Odyssey 2. I don't have access to the booklets, or inserts, or any of the graphics. The Ys 4 is the most tempting of all (for me personally - my very first import ever. I was 14.). But with Xseed virtually guaranteed to pick it up for Vita this year (and sweet Jesus I can't wait), that might really run into problems. Plus with games like Xak and Ys, the translators are around here somewhere, are't they? I guess I'd have to contract for royalties.

You don't need originals, just have someone send you the ISOs. I'm not sure if you know this but bit-for-bit perfect archives of every single PCE/TG game ever have been available on the internet for years, even the fully patched and translated stuff. All ripping the games yourself is going to do is introduce the possibility of error.

And as for paying the translators...I appreciate your enthusiasm for this project, I really really do, but you still don't get it. You don't pay the translators shit. You don't even contact them. You need as few people involved as possible, nobody is allowed compensation whatsoever (including yourself, I'd aim to break slightly less than even). You will always be a thief, but you should be out for the appendix, not the kidneys, and if you can do it without them even knowing, all the better.

The goal should be to bang these fuckers out, distribute them, and then end the project with as few people involved, and as little paper trail as possible.

BTW, I see that Cotton is starting to creep into this conversation. This makes NO SENSE to me at all. There are many copies of this game in the PCE version, all of which are legit products, and they are reasonably priced. The PCE version has full English narration too, so the bootleg would just be senseless piracy. Bootleg something worth bootlegging and stop getting hung up on the pathetically small US library with its bad dubs and horrendous cover art. If you are out to just make something great more available, It makes a lot more sense to pirate something like Nexzr, which is way better than Cotton and also way more expensive. IMO the scene needs something like the Sapphire release, and not just a cheaper version of a game that sucks just because its overpriced on eBay. Think "desert island discs" here. If you could only have 5 Turbo games, would Bonk 3 CD actually be one of them? I fucking hope not.

[nectarsis]

Bigus, quit discouraging me. I'm trying to build up my courage to commit illegal acts that will make me a hero among the Turbo community.

He's not discouraging, just giving a different way to go.   Plus if you're only doing this for being a "hero in the Turbo community", doesn't seem to be the best reason....

[ParanoiaDragon]

I can't think of any other format they'd be in (pressed, NOT burned). Talk to Arkhan at Aetherbutt if you're interested in reproduced Hus. Please LMK if I'm misunderstanding your question.

Zeta, the only problem with SFZ is all the extra production work. Dynastic I can virtually do by myself. I can't do all the graphic design and ROM patching work for SFZ. (I don't know how to do a lot of that stuff, and between my job and my post-grad work, I'm not sure where I'll find time to learn.)

I could do the 6 existing "rare" SCDs I own, and it sounds like the pressing price would be cheap. I can swing $600 to $700 per run until I make back cost. (Come to think of it, I have two friends, both within 2 hours of me, that have the other 4 rare SCDs)

Even beyond SFZ, I don't have originals of Xak 3 and Startling Odyssey 2. I don't have access to the booklets, or inserts, or any of the graphics. The Ys 4 is the most tempting of all (for me personally - my very first import ever. I was 14.). But with Xseed virtually guaranteed to pick it up for Vita this year (and sweet Jesus I can't wait), that might really run into problems. Plus with games like Xak and Ys, the translators are around here somewhere, are't they? I guess I'd have to contract for royalties.

And BTW Zeta, you have no idea how much I'd LOVE to drag down the overpricing on those ten games. (Didn't this convo start on a price gouging thread anyway?)

Just go with Dicount Chang's pressing factory, & all will be as right as rain. Just ask Arky, he highly recomends them!  BTW, howdee do, who are the Britain's, my name is Dennis, & I'm 37!  Oh, & there's some lovely filth over here!

Anyways, one idea I had if you go thru with this, is to shrink the artwork a bit on everything, just have a border around the artwork on the manual, the cd, etc.  As Zeta said, I wouldn't make things look ugly, but yeah, you deffinitly want it to look signifacantly different from the real thing.

Yeah, it's NecroPhile, & there's some guys working on more tunes for SFZ.  I don't have any time to help in that regard at the moment, since I'm knee deep in Jungle Bros., & it has quite a large soundtrack.....partially due to the way I'm planning it.  In hindsight, I've had thoughts on how to keep the number of tracks down, to atleast make sure I don't hold up the train on this one.  Anyways, it may be awhile on the SFZ music front unless me or Arky(I think he offered to help as well) have more time, so I would hold off on SFZ.

On Ys 4, I would also hold off, not so much cuz of Xseed & Ys Celeta: Sea of Tree's, I don't really think it'll be a problem.  I mean heck, this Ys 4 is going to be quite different from the previous 3 released games.  There will obviously be alot of the same characters & locations, but, I just can't imagine Xseed caring.  Ofcoarse, I could always ask one of the employee's there that I kind of know.  See what his thoughts are on that(he's a HUGE Ys fan, & I know he'd love to have a US version of DoY pressed as well).  But, there's still the chance of an english dub. 

Xak 3, AFAIK, is totally done.  There is no voice acting IIRC.  I didn't play thru it much, I consider the original game...kinda buggy personally.

Ofcoarse, I'm not telling you what to do, this is just mindless ramblings from ..........something something, blah, etc.

[BigusSchmuck]

Bigus, quit discouraging me. I'm trying to build up my courage to commit illegal acts that will make me a hero among the Turbo community. Anyway, they can't cease and desist me if the stock is already dispersed. At that point, they can fine me. Anyway, I figure I'll get as far as the pressing company, and I'll be shot down there.

Now here's an idea. How would everyone feel about Beyond Shadowgate in a single disc jewel case? It would come with out the (ugly) poster. There'd be no way to confuse it with the original then.

By the way Bigus, is your name a reference to Life of Brian?

You guessed it. Hell, finding a copy of Beyond Shadowgate these days let alone a gouged version has been a challenge. I'm really not trying to discourage you, I'm merely pointing out a pirated press of a game that is 20 years old and hasn't been ported onto new consoles you'll have almost 0 risk invovled pressing it. For an example, the company ICOM is completely gone as they ceased operations in 1997. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICOM_Simulations
BTW, someone really should port over the DOS version of that old Monty Python game to the PCE. ^^

[Mishran]

Speaking of ICOM, it would appear that Wikipedia states that ICOM's game portfolio is currently owned by Infinite Ventures. Perhaps I missed something, but they don't seem to still exist either. Who might own the rights to ICOM's games now? If nobody holds them, perhaps it might be even more possible for Beyond Shadowgate to be pressed without legal trouble. Anyone wish to chime in?

[jayamine]

Yeah I've played all the fan patches except Startling Odyssey (didn't realize it was actually finished).

Bigus, I want to ask about your wife, but I'm afraid you're married in real life ... and I don't accidentally want to throw insults around. (I was being facetious about the "discouraging" part. Pity text messages don't carry much context :-D )

For you guys in the UK, I'm doing distance studies through UEL and I might be there in person for a few weeks in May (just before they shut down for the Olympics). Don't know how far away from London any of you are though.


A Bonk 3 CD just went for $180 and a Super Zonk just went for $245 on everyone's favorite website today. That's what should be illegal.

[kiketonto]

I don't care about the game you choose but please, I want a copy. All options seems great to me

[Arkhan Asylum]

lol, the pressing company doesn't even have the means to test the games.  I doubt US pressing houses have a Turbo Grafx-16 CD unit

and I doubt they'd have any idea about it anyways.  They won't know.  Let's be real here. 

[Bernie]

I ended up speakikng with the dude that sold those Sapphire discs to BMW.  He told me that I needed to talk to a tech guy before taking on a project, so that they would know what or how to create the discs, because they most likely wouldnt work if I just sent them the project disc and had them replicate it.  Is this true, or total BS?  Im asking cause I really dont know, lol.  But getting ready to move forward on something, and dont want to end up just throwing money out the window.  HAHA.

[Arkhan Asylum]

I ended up speakikng with the dude that sold those Sapphire discs to BMW.  He told me that I needed to talk to a tech guy before taking on a project, so that they would know what or how to create the discs, because they most likely wouldnt work if I just sent them the project disc and had them replicate it.  Is this true, or total BS?  Im asking cause I really dont know, lol.  But getting ready to move forward on something, and dont want to end up just throwing money out the window.  HAHA.

It's wrong and total BS.

Replication is just that.  Replication.

All the replicas will operate exactly like the original one that you supply them.

[Shrapnoid]

Ummm... Far be it from me to be a party pooper but, aren't we *not* supposed to talk about stuff like this around here?

I mean what if Aaron really did get into trouble over this being discussed *here* at this forum?

As much interest as I have in this subject, I wouldn't want to feel like I'd been a part of that.

I don't know Aaron as well as a lot of you do but, I've talked to him some in the past and he seems to be a pretty good guy and I don't want to see anything happen to his place on the web so, wouldn't it be better and more considerate to take this whole thing to a forum where this sort of thing is talked about all of time?

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Ummm... Far be it from me to be a party pooper but, aren't we *not* supposed to talk about stuff like this around here?

Read the rules again.  I am not offering any boots for sale, nor am I providing links to roms or isos.

[Shrapnoid]

Ummm... Far be it from me to be a party pooper but, aren't we *not* supposed to talk about stuff like this around here?

Read the rules again.  I am not offering any boots for sale, nor am I providing links to roms or isos.

Okay. Fine. Whatever...

[Bernie]

Ummm... Far be it from me to be a party pooper but, aren't we *not* supposed to talk about stuff like this around here?

   What he said below. 

Read the rules again.  I am not offering any boots for sale, nor am I providing links to roms or isos.

[Mathius]

Ummm... Far be it from me to be a party pooper but, aren't we *not* supposed to talk about stuff like this around here?

Read the rules again.  I am not offering any boots for sale, nor am I providing links to roms or isos.

Okay. Fine. Whatever...

He answered your question. I am not sure why the attitude all of a sudden.

[MotherGunner]

Ummm... Far be it from me to be a party pooper but, aren't we *not* supposed to talk about stuff like this around here?

Read the rules again.  I am not offering any boots for sale, nor am I providing links to roms or isos.

Okay. Fine. Whatever...

He answered your question. I am not sure why the attitude all of a sudden.

Can't we all just...get along?

[Mathius]

haha!

[jayamine]

You maaad.

[MotherGunner]

You maaad.

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[Mathius]

Blood Gear. Translation patch. Win.

[ParanoiaDragon]

Well, it looks like somebody already beat us to the punch.  Someone whose link I will not share, is selling Space Fantasy Zone allegedly with fixed cd tracks so that they loop correctly, etc.  However, I doubt they got more tunes in the game, which is desperately needed. Also, they're hideously expensive!  They're deffinitly making a prophet   Also, they have Bonknut's/Tom's NES Mega Man for PC Engine......which is also ridiculously exspensive, not to mention unfinished.  You'd think they would've waited till it was done, but, I guess they need the moneyz

[jayamine]

That's the same guy I was talking about. Looks like he made more, but I was told he does burns and not pressed discs

[Sadler]

If you're talking about anime4ever, I think his Sapphire discs are pressed, but SFZ and Rockman are CDR's.

[Frank_fjs]

If you're talking about anime4ever, I think his Sapphire discs are pressed, but SFZ and Rockman are CDR's.

+1

[nat]

Well, it looks like somebody already beat us to the punch.  Someone whose link I will not share, is selling Space Fantasy Zone allegedly with fixed cd tracks so that they loop correctly, etc. 

That's nothing new; he's been selling those for four or five years now. I have one. It's a really nice package, but as others have mentioned, it's just a CDR.

[ParanoiaDragon]

Ok, for some reason I got the impression they were pressed.  The packaging does look nice, I'll give him that.

[xcrement5x]

I emailed him about a week ago and he told me that the SFZ discs are burned, however the Sapphire discs are pressed like other have mentioned. 

[jayamine]

Yeah I had one of the Sapphires once.

[Mathius]

I was under the assumption that SFZ was sold out at anime4ever ages ago.

[jayamine]

It was. Mustve reprinted it

[Nazi NecroPhile]

..... Space Fantasy Zone allegedly with fixed cd tracks so that they loop correctly, etc.  However, I doubt they got more tunes in the game, which is desperately needed.

Right, and the 'fixed tracks' are just corrected lead-ins like you'll find on most of the isos floating around nowadays; it still has the truncated tunes and single song for almost every level.


This project is still alive..... or it's at least not forgotten.  It's looking like I'll have complete artwork done and ready to go shortly, but I'm at others mercy for when (if) new tracks are added.

[ParanoiaDragon]

I really hope the peeps that were able to start on it come thru, I think they were going in the right direction.  Otherwise, I just think it's going to be quite some time for me to contribute.  Not to mention, I'm tempted to work on Mega Man tunes for Tom's project, as I've always wanted to redo those tunes, but I gotta hold back, I just don't have time.  Somewhere down the line, I hope to atleast contribute a song or 2 to this.  Though, my original plan may not work, so I would maybe have to redo some FZ songs completely from scratch.

[Bernie]

Figured I would give this a bump to stir interest, since it is looking like it's closer to becoming a possibility.