Vote for the Essential PCE Games List!

_Paul · 09/22/2006, 06:57 AM

So many people keep asking what are the best games to buy, and so many people have asked me to put a 'starters games' secion on my site so I thought I'd compile opinions on what are truly the essential PCE games.

I'd like suggestions for each section listed, but please only list a MAXIMUM of TWO games for each category, otherwise we'll have a list of hundreds

Categories are below. Some games slip into several categories, so just use whatever you feel best. It's not strict, just to limit the suggestions.

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter:
Vertical Shooter:
Platformer:
Arcade Conversion:
Puzzle/Strategy:
Adventure:
RPG:
ARPG:
Action Game (misc):
Sports:
Driving:

CD
Horizontal Shooter:
Vertical Shooter:
Platformer:
Arcade Conversion:
Puzzle/Strategy:
Adventure:
RPG:
ARPG:
Digital Comic:
Action Game (misc):
Sports:

SUPERGRAFX:
Any game (since titles are limited):

Chakan · 09/22/2006, 08:53 AM

From my limited amount of time with this platform:

HUCARD
Arcade Conversion: Street Fighter II
Puzzle/Strategy: Nectaris
Adventure: Neutopia

CD
Horizontal Shooter: Cotton - Fantastic Night Dreams
RPG: YS I & II
Digital Comic: Snatcher
Action Game (misc): Dracula X

td741 · 09/22/2006, 09:08 AM

Off the top of my head, trying to shy away from the expensive and always mentionned must haves:

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: Air Zonk
Vertical Shooter: Blazing Lazers, Soldier Blade
Platformer: Shockman (?)
Arcade Conversion: Dragon Spirit, Street Fighter II' Championship Edition
Puzzle/Strategy: Bomberman '93, Military Madness
Adventure: Neutopia I & II
RPG: Order of the Griffon
Action Game (misc): Somer Assault
Driving: Motoroader, Victory Run
Sports: Power Golf, Battle Royal (multiplayer)

CD
Horizontal Shooter: Lords of Thunder, L-Dis
Vertical Shooter: Nexr, Spriggan
Platformer: Yoshimoto Comedy (awesome game with quirky humour, levels are themed and enemies are the same characters in various disguises, etc), Shubinbinman 3 (?)
Arcade Conversion: Buster Brothers, Art of Fighting
Puzzle/Strategy: Splash Lake, Vasteel
Adventure: Loom (only because I'm a sucker for Loom), Beyound Shadowgate
RPG: Ys I&II, Legend of Xanadu II
Digital Comic: Galaxy Fraulein Yuna, 3x3 Eyes
Action Game (misc): Ranma 1/2 (the first one, the side scroller), Shadow of the Beast (US ver)
Driving: (There's that CD pack-in video racer. Forgot the name and I wouldn't recommend it.)
Sports: Human Sports Festival

SUPERGRAFX:
Any game (since titles are limited): Aldynes

_Paul · 09/22/2006, 09:15 AM

Quote from: td741Off the top of my head, trying to shy away from the expensive and always mentionned must haves:

Don't shy away because they are common or expensive, if you think they are the best games then put 'em down! That's the only way we're gonna get a true list of the best of the best.

Chakan · 09/22/2006, 09:15 AM

Yes, I believe a Sports (inc Racing) and Strategy category should be added. Where does Nectaris fit otherwise? ^^

_Paul · 09/22/2006, 09:18 AM

I've added Sports, Driving and made Puzzle 'Puzzle/Strategy'.

Joe Redifer · 09/22/2006, 09:24 AM

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: R-Type
Vertical Shooter: Blazing Lazers
Platformer: Legendary Axe 2
Arcade Conversion: Street Fighter 2 - Champion Edition
Puzzle/Strategy: ???
Adventure: Wonder Boy 3... errr I mean Dragon's Curse
RPG: ???
Action Game (misc): Jackie Chan's Action Kung-Fu
Sports: ???
Driving: ???

CD
Horizontal Shooter: TIE: Gate of Thunder / Lords of Thunder
Vertical Shooter: ???
Platformer: ???
Arcade Conversion: ???
Puzzle/Strategy: ???
Adventure: Exile 2: Wicked Phenomenon
RPG: Ys 1 & 2
Digital Comic: JB Harold Murder Club. Beat it 4 times and it still rocks.
Action Game (misc): Shadow of the Beast
Sports: ???
Driving: Do any even exist?

SUPERGRAFX:
Any game (since titles are limited): Ghouls N' Ghosts

_Paul · 09/22/2006, 09:48 AM

Quote from: Joe RediferDriving: Do any even exist?

F1 Circus Special, Legend of Dekoboko.....uh actually that's all I can think of off the top of my head.

td741 · 09/22/2006, 10:08 AM

Quote from: guest
Quote from: td741Off the top of my head, trying to shy away from the expensive and always mentionned must haves:

Don't shy away because they are common or expensive, if you think they are the best games then put 'em down! That's the only way we're gonna get a true list of the best of the best.

Well I did amend my list... I was thinking that this was a list of games that a person should get to start their collection. I.E. We all know the "big-name" must-have titles (Sapphire, Dracula X, Magical Chase), here are some others to consider.

_Paul · 09/22/2006, 10:30 AM

Quote from: td741
Quote from: sunteam_paul
Quote from: td741Off the top of my head, trying to shy away from the expensive and always mentionned must haves:

Don't shy away because they are common or expensive, if you think they are the best games then put 'em down! That's the only way we're gonna get a true list of the best of the best.

Well I did amend my list... I was thinking that this was a list of games that a person should get to start their collection. I.E. We all know the "big-name" must-have titles (Sapphire, Dracula X, Magical Chase), here are some others to consider.

Well sort of, but just because we know the big names, doesn't mean that others do. The most voted will be the ones I add to my 'essentials' list that I'll do for my site.

RuninRuder · 09/22/2006, 10:53 AM

I have a suggestion: make separate action-RPG and traditional-style RPG categories, at least for CDs.

_Paul · 09/22/2006, 11:14 AM

No I have to draw the line somewhere else we'll have about 50 categories and the whole thing becomes pointless. You can have 2 entries per category so just put one RPG and one ARPG if you like.

RuninRuder · 09/22/2006, 12:18 PM

QuoteNo I have to draw the line somewhere else we'll have about 50 categories and the whole thing becomes pointless

I wonder why you didn't draw the line elsewhere. You have a driving category when you can only name two CD driving games. So you'll have an "essentials" list that includes F1 Circus Special and the like, but possibly no mention of Emerald Dragon, Tengai Makyou, or Cosmic Fantasy.

There's nothing wrong with taking a large, significant genre and breaking it down into different styles. You did it with shooters, after all (horizontal and vertical), and rightfully so. The PCE CD has shooters and RPGs of various styles in abundance.

It's your show, though, so I'll stop my whining and post my list in a bit.

_Paul · 09/22/2006, 01:51 PM

Quote from: runinruder
QuoteNo I have to draw the line somewhere else we'll have about 50 categories and the whole thing becomes pointless

I wonder why you didn't draw the line elsewhere. You have a driving category when you can only name two CD driving games. So you'll have an "essentials" list that includes F1 Circus Special and the like, but possibly no mention of Emerald Dragon, Tengai Makyou, or Cosmic Fantasy.

There's nothing wrong with taking a large, significant genre and breaking it down into different styles. You did it with shooters, after all (horizontal and vertical), and rightfully so. The PCE CD has shooters and RPGs of various styles in abundance.

It's your show, though, so I'll stop my whining and post my list in a bit.

Point taken. Added ARPG and removed driving from the CD section. It's quite hard to make this fair for all games but we shall do our best.

Odonadon · 09/22/2006, 02:24 PM

Here is my list and I think I will do something similar over at Turbo2k, but maybe something more like the video stores do "Steve's recommendations", etc. since Paul beat me to another great idea, again!

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: R-Type Complete
Vertical Shooter: Blazing Lazers
Platformer: Bonk's Revenge
Arcade Conversion: Galaga '90, Sidearms
Puzzle/Strategy: Military Madness
Adventure: Dragon's Curse
ARPG: Neutopia II
Action Game (misc): China Warrior
Sports: TV Sports Hockey
Driving: Final Lap Twin

CD
Horizontal Shooter: Gate of Thunder
Vertical Shooter: Sapphire
Platformer: Dracula X
Arcade Conversion: Buster Bros.
Puzzle/Strategy: Vasteel
Adventure: Dynastic Hero
RPG: Ys I & II
ARPG: Ys III
Digital Comic: It Came From The Desert
Action Game (misc): Ninja Action Kaze Kiri
Sports: ?? Madden Football is the only CD sports game I can think of

SUPERGRAFX:
Any game (since titles are limited): Battle Ace

OD

RuninRuder · 09/22/2006, 03:11 PM

Thanks for adding action-RPGs, Paul.

Here's my nutty list:

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: Sinistron, Parodius
Vertical Shooter: Blazing Lazers, Soldier Blade
Platformer: The Legendary Axe, Bonk's Adventure
Arcade Conversion: Galaga '90, R-Type
Puzzle/Strategy: Military Madness, Tricky Kick
Adventure: Night Creatures, Dragon's Curse
RPG: Double Dungeons, Final Lap Twin (seriously)
ARPG: Dungeon Explorer, Neutopia
Action Game (misc): Somer Assault, Alien Crush (the box says, "ACTION"!)
Sports: World Class Baseball, Davis Cup Tennis
Driving: Final Lap Twin, Victory Run

CD
Horizontal Shooter: Macross 2036, Gate of Thunder
Vertical Shooter: Spriggan, Sapphire
Platformer: Shubibinman 3, Valis 3
Puzzle/Strategy: Puyo Puyo CD, Puyo Puyo Tsu
Adventure: Shape Shifter, Blood Gear
RPG: Madou Monogatari, Dragon Knight 2
ARPG: Ys Book I & II, Dungeon Explorer 2
Digital Comic: JB Harold Murder Club, Ranma 1/2 2
Action Game (misc): Last Alert, Asuka 120% (don't know where else to put it)

Digi.k · 09/22/2006, 03:33 PM

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: parodius, r-type, magical chase
Vertical Shooter: super star soldier, dragon spirit
Platformer: legend of Hero Tonma, parasol stars
Arcade Conversion: street fighter champion ed', afterburner II
Puzzle/Strategy: populous, zipang,
Adventure: pc genjin/bonk 2
RPG: momotaro peach boy II
ARPG: dungeon explorer
Action Game (misc): devil crush, ninja spirit
Sports: break in
Driving: final lap twin

CD
Horizontal Shooter: gradius II, download 2
Vertical Shooter: star parodier
Platformer: dracula X, rainbow islands
Arcade Conversion: wonderboy III monster lair
Puzzle/Strategy: puyo puyo, populous - promised lands
Adventure: Tokimeki memorial
RPG: Tengai Makyou II, Ys book I & II, emerald dragon
ARPG: dynastic hero, dungeon explorer II
Digital Comic: snatcher, urusei yatsura
Action Game (misc): harold jb murder club
Sports:

_Paul · 09/22/2006, 04:30 PM

Some very interesting responses so far, keep it up.

cheezio · 09/22/2006, 04:58 PM

Well, from the limited number of games I have had the pleasure of playing, these would be my picks:

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: R-type
Vertical Shooter: Gunhed
Platformer: The Newzealand story
Arcade Conversion: Mr heli
Puzzle/Strategy: Nectaris
Action Game (misc): Bomberman 94

CD
Horizontal Shooter:R-type complete

magicthrow · 09/22/2006, 05:18 PM

ok, here goes.

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: salamander/r-type
Vertical Shooter: gunhead/final soldier
Platformer: pc kid 2/pc kid3
Arcade Conversion: sf2/nemesis
Action Game (misc): ninja spirit
Puzzle/Strategy: don doko don

CD
Horizontal Shooter: gates of thunder/lords of thunder
Arcade Conversion: r-type complete
RPG: dragon slayer
ARPG: Ys 1+2
SUPERGRAFX:
Any game (since titles are limited): ghoules & ghosts/1941 counter attack

esteban · 09/22/2006, 06:18 PM

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: Power Gate, Rock On
Vertical Shooter: Armed F, Hany in the Sky
Platformer: Impossamole, Bravoman
Arcade Conversion: Pac Land, Altered Beast
Puzzle/Strategy: Drop Rock, Hatris

...

OK, OK, it got old really quick. No need to finish it

Seldane · 09/22/2006, 06:24 PM

I can't think of that many games right now. I might update this list later.

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: Magical Chase
Vertical Shooter: Detana!! Twinbee
Platformer: Son Son 2
Arcade Conversion: N/A
Puzzle/Strategy: N/A
Adventure: Dragon's Curse
RPG: N/A
ARPG: Neutopia II
Action Game (misc): N/A
Sports: Über-N/A
Driving: Über-N/A

CD
Horizontal Shooter: Cotton
Vertical Shooter: N/A
Platformer: Bonk 3
Arcade Conversion: N/A
Puzzle/Strategy: Puyo Puyo 2
Adventure: Fray CD: Xak Gaiden
RPG: Dragon Slayer The Legend of Heroes
ARPG: Ys IV The Dawn of Ys
Digital Comic: N/A N/A N/A N/A N/A!!!
Action Game (misc): Genocide
Sports: Über-N/A

guyjin · 09/22/2006, 07:46 PM

(removed categories I'm unfamilliar with, trying to stick to us releases)

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: R-type
Vertical Shooter: Super star soldier (import only?)
Platformer: Bonk's adventure
Arcade Conversion: Cadash
Puzzle/Strategy: Bomberman or Cratermaze
Adventure: Neutopia
RPG: (are there any?)
ARPG: (wut?)
Action Game (misc): Ninja Spirit

CD
Horizontal Shooter: Lords of Thunder
RPG: Cosmic Fantasy 2

CrackTiger · 09/22/2006, 08:12 PM

HUCARD

Horizontal Shooter: Aeroblasters or Magical Chase
Vertical Shooter: Blazing Lazers/Gunhed or Soldier Blade
Platformer: Bonk's Revenge/PC Genjin 2 or Blue Blink
Arcade Conversion: Street Fighter II CE or R-Type
Puzzle/Strategy: Nectaris/Military Madness or Bomberman '93
Adventure: Dragon's Curse/Adventure Island or Neutopia
RPG: Order Of The Griffin
ARPG: Dungeon Explorer
Action Game (misc): Ninja Spirit or Bloody Wolf
Sports: World Court Tennis
Driving: Final Lap Twin

CD

Horizontal Shooter: Lords Of Thunder or Gate Of Thunder
Vertical Shooter: Star Parodier or Sapphire
Platformer: Chiki Chiki Boys or Prince Of Persia
Arcade Conversion: Forgotten Worlds or World Heroes 2
Puzzle/Strategy: Neo Nectaris
Adventure: The Legend Of Xanadu II or Ys I & II
RPG: Tengai Makyou Fuun Kabuki Den or Ys IV
ARPG: Dungeon Explorer II
Digital Comic: Snatcher CD ROMantic or Ranma 1/2 "No 2"
Action Game (misc): Dracula X
Sports: John Madden Duo CD Football

SUPERGRAFX:

Any game (since titles are limited): 1941

You can swap LOXII and Ys IV if you want to keep Ys' in the same category, but the PCE has too many titles that fall into the blurred grey area of Adventure/RPG/ARPG.

Since Keranu has yet to post, I'll save him the trouble and list his picks right here-

HUCARD

Horizontal Shooter: Parodius or Hana Taka Daka
Vertical Shooter: Toilet Kids or Hani In The Sky
Platformer: Kato & Ken or Tailspin or Dorabian Night
Arcade Conversion: Bravoman or Rastan Saga II
Puzzle/Strategy: Wallaby or Artist Tool or Blodia or Hatris
Adventure: Shada
RPG: Necross
ARPG: Night Creatures
Action Game (misc): Energy or Strip Fighter II or Darkwing Duck
Sports: Battle Royale or Appare! Gateball
Driving: Knight Rider Special

CD

Horizontal Shooter: Legion or Ai Cho Aniki
Vertical Shooter: God Panic or Steam Hearts
Platformer: Baby Joe or Jim Power
Arcade Conversion: Adventure Quiz Capcom World Hatena no Dai Bouken or Golden Axe
Puzzle/Strategy: The Manhole or Mine Sweeper
Adventure: Basted
RPG: Hi Leg Fantasy or Pachiokun 3 Pachisuro & Pachinko
ARPG: Popful Mail
Digital Comic: Cobra II or It Came From The Desert or Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego?
Action Game (misc): Ane San or Bakuden The Unbalanced Zone
Sports: Faceball or Fire Pro Female Wrestling

SUPERGRAFX:

Any game (since titles are limited): Grandzort

Emerald Rocker · 09/22/2006, 09:17 PM

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: Magical Chase
Vertical Shooter: Burning Angels
Platformer: Er
Arcade Conversion: Hm
Puzzle/Strategy: Well
Adventure: ...
RPG: Lady Sword!
ARPG: Eh
Action Game (misc): Ninja Spirit
Sports: Uh
Driving: Hum

CD
Horizontal Shooter: Gate of Thunder, Choaniki
Vertical Shooter: Spriggan, Sylphia
Platformer: Shubibinman 3, Valis 4
Arcade Conversion: Hellfire S, Puyo Puyo Tsuu CD
Puzzle/Strategy: Puyo Puyo CD, Panic Bomber
Adventure: Shadow of the Beast, Shape Shifter
RPG: Emerald Dragon, Dragon Knight & Graffiti
ARPG: Ys 1+2, Legend of Xanadu 2
Digital Comic: Snatcher, Cobra 2
Action Game (misc): Dracula X, Valis 3
Sports: Asuka 120% Maxima, Kabuki Ittouryoudan

Odonadon · 09/23/2006, 12:51 AM

I love the inconsistencies in the ARPG/RPG/Adventure categories. Everyone seems to have their own definitions

Did you want to lay something out more specific for these categories Paul?
ie. RPG=turn based battles, progressing characters, ARPG=....etc?

OD

Keranu · 09/23/2006, 01:55 AM

My long awaited post has arrived.

Hahahaha, I love you CrackTiger

! Ok but seriously, here's my list (will try to be as non-cheesy as possible and pick titles that I think newcomers would enjoy):

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: Air Zonk, Hana Taka Daka
Vertical Shooter: Blazing Lazers, Soldier Blade
Platformer: Bonk's Adventure, J.J. and Jeff

Arcade Conversion: R-Type, Parodius
Puzzle/Strategy: Military Madness, Chew Man Fu
Adventure: Dragon's Curse, Momo Tarou Katsu Geki
RPG: Double Dungeons, Necros no Yousai
ARPG: Cadash, Neutopia
Action Game (misc): Ninja Spirit, Bloody Wolf
Sports: World Class Baseball, Final Match Tennis
Driving: Final Lap Twin, Outrun

CD
Horizontal Shooter: Gates of Thunder, Macross 2036
Vertical Shooter: Star Parodia, Sapphire
Platformer: Monster Lair, Dracula X
Arcade Conversion: Double Dragon II, Fatal Fury Special
Puzzle/Strategy: Panic Bomberman, Splash Lake
Adventure: Shape Shifter, Beyond Shadowgate
RPG: Cosmic Fantasy 2, Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes
ARPG: Ys Book I & II, Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys
Digital Comic: Snatcher, J.B. Harold Murder Club
Action Game (misc): Shubibin Man 3, Last Alert
Sports: Kunio Soccer, Rom Rom Stadium (though I've never played it since Kunio Soccer is the only CD sports game I have played; this one looks good and recommendable though)

SUPERGRAFX:
Any game (since titles are limited): Granzort

Paul, might I suggest adding a fighting section to the CD games since there are a good handfull of them?

_Paul · 09/23/2006, 04:16 AM

Quote from: OdonadonI love the inconsistencies in the ARPG/RPG/Adventure categories. Everyone seems to have their own definitions Did you want to lay something out more specific for these categories Paul?
ie. RPG=turn based battles, progressing characters, ARPG=....etc?

OD

Yeah you're pretty much right there.
RPG is something with turn based battles.
ARPG could also be called an adventure by some I guess, but encompasses things like Exile, Ys, Sorcerian, Neutopia and Dungeon Explorer at a push (although that could come under Action).

In the end I'll take all the suggested titles and just fish out the most common choices. I may end up recategorizing some anyway but it's not really that important.

Dont change existing lists now (except you seldane - I know you're going to add to it) unless you list what you have removed or moved please as I've started compiling.

Emerald Rocker · 09/23/2006, 01:24 PM

I have a Rom Rom Stadium that I need to sell.

CrackTiger · 09/23/2006, 01:30 PM

Quote from: sunteam_paul
Quote from: OdonadonI love the inconsistencies in the ARPG/RPG/Adventure categories. Everyone seems to have their own definitions Did you want to lay something out more specific for these categories Paul?
ie. RPG=turn based battles, progressing characters, ARPG=....etc?

OD

Yeah you're pretty much right there.
RPG is something with turn based battles.
ARPG could also be called an adventure by some I guess, but encompasses things like Exile, Ys, Sorcerian, Neutopia and Dungeon Explorer at a push (although that could come under Action).

In the end I'll take all the suggested titles and just fish out the most common choices. I may end up recategorizing some anyway but it's not really that important.

Dont change existing lists now (except you seldane - I know you're going to add to it) unless you list what you have removed or moved please as I've started compiling.

What do you consider an Adventure game then?

AlexKidd · 09/23/2006, 05:07 PM

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: R-type, Side Arms
Vertical Shooter: Blazing Lazers, Super Star Soldier
Platformer: Bonk's Revenge, Bonk's adventure
Arcade Conversion: Galaga '90, Space Harrier
Puzzle/Strategy: Military Madness, Bomberman '93
Adventure: Dragon's Curse
RPG: Order of the Griffon
ARPG: Neutopia 2, Cadash
Action Game (misc): Ninja Spirit, Devil's Crush
Sports: World court tennis, tv sports hockey
Driving: Outrun, Victory Run

CD
Horizontal Shooter: Lords of Thunder, Gate of Thunder
Vertical Shooter: Sapphire
Platformer: Dracula X
Arcade Conversion: Forgotten Worlds
Puzzle/Strategy: Vasteel
Adventure: Shape Shifter
RPG: Cosmic Fantasy 2, Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes
ARPG: Ys Book I & II, Ys IV
Digital Comic: n/a
Action Game (misc): Kaze Kiri, Last Alert
Sports: n/a

SUPERGRAFX:
Any game (since titles are limited): Ghouls n' Ghosts

Metalslug · 09/23/2006, 06:12 PM

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: Gradius, R-type
Vertical Shooter: Soldier Blade, Super Star Soldier
Platformer: Bonk's Revenge, Bonk's adventure
Arcade Conversion: Street Fighter 2, Space Harrier
Puzzle/Strategy: Military Madness, Bomberman '94
Adventure:
RPG: Order of the Griffon, Double Dungeons
ARPG: Neutopia 2, Dungeon Explorer
Action Game (misc): Ninja Spirit, Devil's Crush
Sports: Battle Royal, tv sports hockey
Driving: Outrun, Chase HQ

CD
Horizontal Shooter: Lords of Thunder, Gradius 2
Vertical Shooter: Nexzr Special Summer Carnival, Saphire
Platformer: Dracula X, Bonk 3
Arcade Conversion: Fatal Fury Special
Puzzle/Strategy: NeoNectaris/Populous
Adventure: Space Battleship Yamato, Zero 4 Champ 2
RPG: Cosmic Fantasy 2, Dragon Slayer: The Legend of Heroes
ARPG: Dungeon Explorer 2, Ys IV
Digital Comic: Snatcher, Cobra
Action Game (misc): Double Dragon 2, Gain Ground SX
Sports: n/a

SUPERGRAFX:
Any game (since titles are limited): Ghouls n' Ghosts

VestCunt · 09/23/2006, 10:15 PM

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: R-Type, Air Zonk
Vertical Shooter: Soldier Blade
Platformer: Ninja Gaiden
Arcade Conversion: Street Fighter 2
Puzzle/Strategy: Bomberman 94
Adventure: Dragons Curse
RPG: Order of the Griffon
ARPG: Neutopia
Action Game (misc): Bloody Wolf
Sports: Hit the Ice
Driving: Outrun, Final Lap Twin

CD
Horizontal Shooter: Gate of Thunder, Cotton
Vertical Shooter: Super Raiden
Platformer: Dracula X
Arcade Conversion: Double Dragon 2
Puzzle/Strategy: Vasteel
Adventure: Prince of Persia
RPG: Ys 1+2
ARPG: Exile
Digital Comic: It Came from the Desert
Action Game (misc): Kabuki Ittouryoudan
Sports: Downtown Junior High
SUPERGRAFX: Ghouls n' Ghosts

A "Best Multi-Player Game" category might be a good idea.
I think the ARPG category should be removed. Adventure and ARPG games are pretty much the same thing and if you pick two hucard RPGs and two hucard ARPGs that pretty much covers every hucard RPG that came out in the US.
Faceball, of course, takes the "Best FPS" award every time!

I had to think long and hard to decide that I like GoT more than LoT. LoT has better graphics and more bad-ass appeal, but the play control on GoT is just so awesome because you can change speed, weapons and gun direction at the drop of a hat (and frequently need to do so!).

I haven't played Spriggan or too many other vertical CD shooters, but I think Super Raiden blows Sapphire and Sylphia away. Sapphire is awesome, but the screen gets kind of cluttered in a way Raiden doesn't and I can't stand Sapphire unless I play as the fastest character.

I think R-Type is the best hucard shooter of all time but Air Zonk was phenomenal when it first came out. The graphics are awesome, the music is catchy and it took the lame Bonk series in a whole new direction. I remember going into Toys R Us and racing my friend to the TG16 kiosk just to play Air Zonk.

Downtown Nekketsu Junior High may not be a typical "Sports" game, but it's close enough for me.

Keranu · 09/24/2006, 01:18 AM

I was also thinking it would be cool to add a Mutliplayer selection as well.

_Paul · 09/24/2006, 04:29 AM

Quote from: CrackTiger
Quote from: sunteam_paul
Quote from: OdonadonI love the inconsistencies in the ARPG/RPG/Adventure categories. Everyone seems to have their own definitions Did you want to lay something out more specific for these categories Paul?
ie. RPG=turn based battles, progressing characters, ARPG=....etc?

OD

Yeah you're pretty much right there.
RPG is something with turn based battles.
ARPG could also be called an adventure by some I guess, but encompasses things like Exile, Ys, Sorcerian, Neutopia and Dungeon Explorer at a push (although that could come under Action).

In the end I'll take all the suggested titles and just fish out the most common choices. I may end up recategorizing some anyway but it's not really that important.

Dont change existing lists now (except you seldane - I know you're going to add to it) unless you list what you have removed or moved please as I've started compiling.

What do you consider an Adventure game then?

It's a kind of overlap category. Suggestions already posted are a good example.

When it comes to compile the finished scores I'll re-sort a lot of games into different areas anyway. The categories are there mostly as an aid to thinking of different game styles. Really, I could have asked ' list 10 top games of any type' but I wanted to try to get some variety there.

Actually, looking at it I really messed up the categories but it's too late and this is hardly a scientific experiment so it's not vital.

Seldane · 09/24/2006, 08:45 AM

I think "adventure" is a very vague term. It is like "action" - it can be pretty much anything.

Some examples:

Monkey Island - adventure
Zelda - adventure
Myst - adventure
Rayman 2 - adventure
Shadow of the Colossus - adventure
Faxanadu - adventure

JoshTurboTrollX · 09/24/2006, 11:53 AM

Heres an unorganized pack of Perfect Start-up games for Turbo Noobs.

Hucard-
AirZonk, Bonk's Revenge, Ninja Spirit, Gradius, Sonic Spike, New Adventure Island, Double Dungeons, Dungeon Explorer, Order of the Griffon, Neutopia I and II,Bomberman '93, Military Madness, Super Dodge Ball, and Street Fighter II CE.

CD/SCD/ACD-
Gate(4 in one), Ys Book I & II, Ys IV, Dracula X, Lords of Thunder, Panic Bomber, Dungeon Explorer II, John Madden Duo, Dragon Slayer, Lemmings, Faceball, Kunio's Soccer, Downtown Nekketsu Yoshinkyoku, Exie WP, and Fatal Fury Special

My 2 cents.

TurboSage

cho_aniki · 09/25/2006, 12:26 AM

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: Download, PC Denjin
Vertical Shooter: Soldier Blade, Gunhed
Platformer: Jackie Chan, Pc Genjin
Arcade Conversion: Bikkuriman World, Street Fighter 2
Puzzle/Strategy: Batman, Bomberman 94
Adventure: Adventure Island, Cadash
RPG: Sindibad
ARPG: Neutopia, Dungeon Explorer
Action Game (misc): Gekisha Boy, Splatterhouse
Sports: Dodge Danpei, Formation Soccer J-league
Driving: Motoroader 2, Outrun

CD
Horizontal Shooter: Ai Cho Aniki, Winds of Thunder
Vertical Shooter: Sapphire, Spriggan
Platformer: Shubibinman 3, Bakushou Yoshimoto
Arcade Conversion: Forgotten Worlds, Gain Ground SX
Puzzle/Strategy: Vasteel 2, Kisou Louga
Adventure: Popful Mail, Dynastic Hero
RPG: Emerald Dragon, Linda Cube
ARPG: Ys Book 1 & 2, Beyond Shadowgate
Digital Comic: Snatcher, Dead of the Brain
Action Game (misc): Dracula X, Double Dragon 2
Sports: Formation Soccer Serie A, Downtown Daiundokai

SUPERGRAFX:
Any game (since titles are limited): Aldynes, Daimakaimura

Tatsujin · 09/25/2006, 12:42 AM

here my votes:

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: magical chase
Vertical Shooter: gunhed
Platformer: ninja spirit (saigou no nindou)
Arcade Conversion: R-Type
Puzzle/Strategy: bomberman'93
Adventure: adventure island (dragons curse)
RPG: n/a
ARPG: Neutopia 2
Action Game (misc): super star soldier
Sports: final match tennis
Driving: Outrun, Victory Run

S/A/CD
Horizontal Shooter: gate of thunder
Vertical Shooter: seirei senshi spriggan sc'91
Platformer: akumajou dracula x - chi no rondo
Arcade Conversion: gradius II - gofer na yabou
Puzzle/Strategy: puyo puyo cd
Adventure: dynastic heros
RPG: n/a
ARPG: n/a
Digital Comic: snatcher CDROMantic
Action Game (misc): ginga fukei densetsu sapphire / winds of thunder

SUPERGRAFX:
daimakaimura

i now there exist much more awsome games out there. but this is the list at the moment

Odonadon · 09/25/2006, 03:06 PM

Just thinking out loud here, but it might be cool to have a "Best Graphics" and "Best Sound" category, because we all know there are gamers who make their decisions based on those factors.

For Best Graphics I'd have to award Sapphire
Best Sound: Hucard: Dragon's Curse, CD: Gate of Thunder

OD

awack · 09/25/2006, 04:25 PM

For grafx: beyond shadowgate, i dont think there is anything on the duo,genesis or snes that looks as good.

For sound: i would have to go with dracula x because it has a great combo of music and sound fx.

torgo · 09/25/2006, 04:48 PM

HUCARD
Horizontal Shooter: Magical Chase
Vertical Shooter: Blazing Lazers
Platformer: Bonk's Adventure
Arcade Conversion: Street Fighter 2 CE
Puzzle/Strategy: Military Madness/Parasol Stars/Bomberman '93
Adventure: Dungeon Explorer
RPG:
ARPG: Neutopia 2
Action Game (misc): Ninja Spirit
Sports: World Court Tennis (Take Tennis King DOWN!)
Driving: Final Lap Twin (the Quest Mode was great)

CD
Horizontal Shooter: Lords of Thunder
Vertical Shooter: Spriggan/Fantasy Star Soldier

Platformer: Dracula X
Arcade Conversion: Fatal Fury 2
Puzzle/Strategy: Neo Nectaris
Adventure: Loom
RPG: Cosmic Fantasy II
ARPG: Ys Book 1&2
Digital Comic: It Came From the Desert (so cheesey it's good)
Action Game (misc): Macross 2036, Sapphire
Sports: This is Pro Baseball '89 (we STILL play this all the time!)

Keranu · 09/26/2006, 02:43 AM

Torgo, I'm glad to hear that you love Pro Baseball '89. I haven't played any baesball games for CD, but have been interested in them. I should pick that one up.

torgo · 09/26/2006, 10:02 AM

There's a LOT of Japanese text, but my buddy and get through it pretty well now. The game is great. It has all of the real players of the time, and all of the actual stadiums. They even put the player's individual number on the jersey, and they seem to have the actual batting stance (I wouldn't knw, since I don't know any of the players.) It's tough to hit a home run, which is actually one of the reasons that we like it.

Seldane · 09/26/2006, 11:26 AM

Best graphics: Ys IV The Dawn of Ys
__Best sound: Ys IV The Dawn of Ys

_Paul · 10/09/2006, 02:38 PM

Quote from: SeldaneBest graphics: Ys IV The Dawn of Ys

*examines Seldane's head*

CrackTiger · 10/09/2006, 03:06 PM

Quote from: sunteam_paul
Quote from: SeldaneBest graphics: Ys IV The Dawn of Ys

*examines Seldane's head*

Especially considering this-

Quote from: SeldaneI prefer Mask of the sun. The dawn of Ys never appealed to me, I don't know why, really. Plus, the resolution is so low in The dawn of Ys, and the "frame" around the screen is so large so nothing fits on the screen! This is very strange and extremely annoying. The gameplay isn't that good either, plus, the game is too slow.

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_Paul · 10/09/2006, 05:42 PM

OK, I notice a lot of people voted for Order of the Griffon. Was this actually a decent RPG? I've not played it properly, but I'm wondering if people voted through lack of choice more than anything else.

Keranu · 10/09/2006, 06:18 PM

Some people really like Order of the Griffon. I haven't played it properly either, but it seems like it could be fun enough. It was probably also voted a lot because of the lack of choice though.

TurboXray · 10/09/2006, 06:55 PM

Quote from: CrackTiger
Quote from: guest
Quote from: SeldaneBest graphics: Ys IV The Dawn of Ys

*examines Seldane's head*

Especially considering this-

Quote from: SeldaneI prefer Mask of the sun. The dawn of Ys never appealed to me, I don't know why, really. Plus, the resolution is so low in The dawn of Ys, and the "frame" around the screen is so large so nothing fits on the screen! This is very strange and extremely annoying. The gameplay isn't that good either, plus, the game is too slow.

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The SNES Ys IV uses the same 256 pixel dot resolution as the PCE version.