Turbo Everdrive PC Engine / Turbografx 16 Flash Card Nearing Release

[Joe Redifer]

Does anyone here know the science behind this?

1)Cart may not work properly with region modded systems

I have a converter which I use to play Japanese games on my US TurboGrafx-16 Entertainment Supersystem. Normally the Turbo Everdrive works just fine plugged in to the TG016. US and JP games play just fine with the switch set to US or TG or whatever it is. If I plug the Turbo Everdrive into the converter and then plug that into the TG-16, then I need to switch it to JP or PCE or whatever it is. It then proceeds to play the US and JP games just fine. I assume this would be similar to region modding.

I think that the 1)Cart may not work properly with region modded systems was listed only because Krikzz did not have a region modded system to test and also there may be different kinds of region mods that may or may not hinder the experience.

[Todd Gill]

Soldier Blade on the turbo everdrive works fine on both my tg16 and white pce.

[ConHuevos]

Ya I'm pretty certain I got a defective card, gonna mail it back.

[KnightWarrior]

To bad SAG dosen't sell the case by it self, looks bad ass..

[MotherGunner]

The preorder order page has been updated with pricing and photos of the final product.

Photos / Order page

https://stoneagegamer.com/flash/turbografx-16/carts/turbo-everdrive/

[CGQuarterly]

To bad SAG dosen't sell the case by it self, looks bad ass..

Probably because if they did, too many people would buy the bare everdrive and then a case by itself.  A bare unit is about $75, and the deluxe version is like $140.  That's bad math.  The everdrive itself is a hell of a lot cooler than the bullshit that SAG came up with to go with it. I don't need stickers, instruction manuals, and a fucked up looking unit.  I just need a case for my deal.  But that isn't enough profit so they have to come up with all of this useless ancillary bullshit to justify the near 100% mark-up.

Chris

[Frank_fjs]

$140 for some unnecessary crap? People are really stupid.

[CGQuarterly]

Fuckin A.  I'd rather spend $75 or whatever on the bare Everdrive, and spend the other $70 or so on a sweet Turbo CD game or two.  Like Drac X.

Chris

[Bernie]

$140 for some unnecessary crap? People are really stupid.

So....people are stupid, because they might like to get something that someone else feels is unnecessary?  Hmmm....

[Frank_fjs]

$140 for some unnecessary crap? People are really stupid.

So....people are stupid, because they might like to get something that someone else feels is unnecessary?  Hmmm....

No, people are stupid if they think it's reasonable to spend $60 on paper, plastic and a sticker.

[CGQuarterly]

Right.  It's $60 for the packaging, basically.  He's probably making at least as much profit as the guy who makes the everdrive.

Chris

[Bernie]

Well, guess I'm stupid then.  I just don't see how you feel I'm stupid because I choose to buy that package deal.  But what do I know.... 

[Neurosis138]

I think it looks pretty sweet.

[Frank_fjs]

Everyone that buys it except Bernie is stupid.

Sorry to come off a bit harsh, just sick of being exploited in the retro scene.

[Bernie]

You aren't being exploited.  You have a choice.  Obviously some will choose to buy the naked board, and that's fine.  But some may like the look and not mind paying the extra for eye candy.  I just happen to be one of them.  I'd rather just pay someone else to make it look all pretty, than attempt to do it myself. 

[csgx1]

That custom case is pretty damn nice.  Seems like SAG put a lot more effort into making this deluxe package compared to the other deluxe Everdrives they did in the past.

[CGQuarterly]

Assuming that its a custom case.  I have my doubts. A custom injection mold costs thousands of dollars, and he would likely never recoup his costs.

And Bernie, I don't think you're stupid.  But I bought a regular original everdrive, and then ponied up for a SAG "deluxe" super everdrive, and I felt ripped off.  It was like an extra $40 for a shell with label, and a universal game case, along with 2 coupons for free firmware upgrades that had pretty stingy expiration dates (both expired long ago).  I just don't like SAG.  He signs up at various gaming forums to do nothing more than hawk his shit, and his primary sources of income seem to be shitty clone systems, and his profiting off of Krikzz's work with these "upgraded" deluxe versions of the everdrive line. Personally I would rather give my money directly to Krikzz so that he gets all of the profit, rather than buy one from SAG (that he of course got at a wholesale discount) so that he can take some of Krikzz's profit, along with adding some of his own for some stickers and a case.  He's a leach who is riding someone else's coat tails.  Just my opinion, of course.

Chris

[Bernie]

Now that gives me more to go on.  Knowing that you personally bought one and what it consists of makes me second guess.  It may be just as easy to buy a naked board and store it in an empty HuCARD case.

[CGQuarterly]

Now that gives me more to go on.  Knowing that you personally bought one and what it consists of makes me second guess.  It may be just as easy to buy a naked board and store it in an empty HuCARD case.

. Actually, you can buy a jewel case for PCMCIA cards on eBay for about $2.50 shipped, and the TE fits in it perfectly.  I'll post a pic.  It would be cool to design an insert for it....

Chris

[CGQuarterly]

Here is what I bought, and who I bought it from.  Good seller.  $2.99 shipped. 

Chris

[ApolloBoy]

I'm surprised I didn't think of that, I've actually got a few of those laying around. I think it'd be really cool for someone to design an insert, it'd be kinda like an FDS game that way.

[CGQuarterly]

I'm surprised I didn't think of that, I've actually got a few of those laying around. I think it'd be really cool for someone to design an insert, it'd be kinda like an FDS game that way.

Or we could convince Sparky to design a decal...

Chris

[Joe Redifer]

I bought my bare Turbo Everdrive from Stone Age Gamer. I wish I hadn't. I just don't like the guy. I 've bought everything else from Retrogate and nothing but good times there and they actually respond to your e-mails. Not only that, they respond quickly.

[CrackTiger]

Why not just use a HuCard case?



It is a HuCard.

[CGQuarterly]

I bought my bare Turbo Everdrive from Stone Age Gamer. I wish I hadn't. I just don't like the guy. I 've bought everything else from Retrogate and nothing but good times there and they actually respond to your e-mails. Not only that, they respond quickly.

Yeah, that's where I'm at, as well.  I just don't like the dude.  Just little things like the expiration date on his firmware upgrade coupons, the higher price for the Turbo Everdrive "Deluxe Upgrade" for people who didn't buy the unit from him, and his extremely defensive attitude.  I just don't want to give him my money.

Chris

[esteban]

It is a HuCard.

BEST POST EVER.

[KnightWarrior]

Did you ask him if he give him the cut of the Deluxe Editions that are sold??

I won't buy from SAG for Flash Cart/Cards anyways

Why not just use a HuCard case?

It is a HuCard.

Now that's Sexy

[NightWolve]

$140 for some unnecessary crap? People are really stupid.

So....people are stupid, because they might like to get something that someone else feels is unnecessary?  Hmmm....

Well, guess I'm stupid then.  I just don't see how you feel I'm stupid because I choose to buy that package deal.  But what do I know.... 

I'm kind of surprised at your reaction, Bernie. With all the information presented, you don't agree his price is highly questionable?? I wanted this version too, it looks great, and I waited to see what the price was gonna be, but $139.99 is a plain rip-off given what we know... I'd go as far as using outrageous... Little things have already annoyed me like krikzz pricing the regular one at $79.00 (the engineer that made it!) and this guy pricing it at $79.99 for that extra little dollar and playing that one-penny-less bullshit most US retailers play so as not to list a solid, even price ($80 in this case)... I fucking hate that shit... He didn't spend the thousands of hours to design and build the thing, and he got to buy them in bulk, wholesale, much cheaper, but he deserves an extra dollar for some reason or so he thinks...

The other annoyance is that $8 charge for a cheap ass, 2GB microSD (class 4) card... I can get a 2GB for $3 bucks retail, so that's a shit price right there, but at least that's selectable and thus avoidable... For $7 bucks you can get a 4GB class 10 card (faster write speed 10MB/s) at a minimum... Twice the memory and TWICE the speed for his shit price, see a pattern here ?? (Problem with this point though is that krikzz is doing it also, but again, at least it's an optional purchase and in his case, he's the guy that sacrificed thousands of hours to create the thing - more forgivable.).

You aren't being exploited.  You have a choice.  Obviously some will choose to buy the naked board, and that's fine.  But some may like the look and not mind paying the extra for eye candy.  I just happen to be one of them.  I'd rather just pay someone else to make it look all pretty, than attempt to do it myself. 

Yeah, he has the choice to set his price, and the public has a choice to buy from him or not, but the public also has the choice to criticize (or praise) his "pricing" as is being done here! I hope he IS catching some shit for that price and it's not all clapping seals just patting him on the back, telling him what a great deal it is!

You've taken part in the Gouging thread where profiteering/greed/gouging is criticized all the time, you don't see that here with this guy ?? Not gouging, but definitely greed/profiteering ?

No, people are stupid if they think it's reasonable to spend $60 on paper, plastic and a sticker.

Nail on the head, that's pretty much all he did and raised the price of the product by fucking 76%! Fuck this guy! You think of the thousands of hours krikzz spent as a hardware and software engineer to make this flash cart possible, the best and only one you'll ever need, and this guy comes along with nothing more than an appearance tweak, a case, a manual, etc. and asks for a ridiculous markup like he did some serious heavy lifting which is nowhere near as comparable to what krikzz had to go through to create the thing or ever could be!!!! Fuck this guy! I was hoping for a total price of maybe around $100 or something (max, maybe $110 barely), but hell no, he's not getting my money; I'm gonna settle on the plain one and I think I might use some hot glue to coat it with for protection. I wonder if hot glue sticks come in black, all I got is standard transparent ones. That would work nice.

wayback.stoneagegamer.com/turboeverdrive_deluxe.aspx

Turbo EverDrive Cart (rev. 1.1)
Individually Numbered
Coated in clear conformal coat and black epoxy enamel to prevent dust, moisture and static shock
Semi-transprent smoke black shell
Color label
Held together with 4 gold plated screws

I mean, what the fuck ? Gold-plated ? WHY ? Something wrong with plain ole brass ?? They're just fucking screws!! Oh right, we can charge more noting that they're plated with gold for the "serious" gamer out there... A flashcart in Gangnam Style right here (that whacky song is partly a criticism of the excesses of the wealthy). Heh. That's not even a positive when you're dealing with RCA jacks and cables because plain ole copper is the better, cheaper conductor, while silver is the best, though not as cheap as copper. I dunno why they do it, maybe because it takes longer for it to tarnish or something... Anyway, wow, gold-plated screws... I would not have thought of that...

*shakes fist*

Screw this guy!!! ;)


FIRMWARE PATCH

EDIT: Well, I had been concerned about this firmware coupon bullshit of his, but I just learned that firmware upgrades are as simple as downloading a file called "tos.pce" from krikzz's website, copying it to your microSD card, plugging it back into the flashcart, and loading tos.pce from the boot menu like a regular ROM file. One year coupon bullshit or not from SAG, that's how you do it in this case! And there is a patch you'll need if you wanna fix a problem that prevents like more than two pages or more of ROM files from appearing due to a bug in the FAT32 code. If you have hundreds of ROM files, after 2 pages in the menu, they won't show up without this patch or so:

http://krikzz.com/pub/support/index.php?dir=turbo-ed%2Fos%2Fv2

Reference: http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=41.msg387#msg387

In trying to understand where this coupon business originated from, basically, you had to send the unit back to him to let him do the upgrade because of special hardware requirements in the case of the EverDrive64.

http://stoneagegamer.com/everdrive64_firmware_update.aspx

Doing it yourself required you to have the following: Altera USB Blaster (whatever that is), a 10-pin header (???), Altera Quartus II software, and a Nintendo 64... krikzz obviously got a little better in his methods for patching/upgrading the firmware/OS so having to send the flashcart back to SAG and hoping your coupon didn't expire (resulting in having to pay him to do it) is not a concern with most any other krikzz flashcart... Anyhow, in SAG's defense, when it comes to the EverDrive64, that makes sense, you gotta ship it to him, he does it, and he has to pay to ship it back to you, etc. But why the coupon business for the other carts with no special hardware and software requirements for the upgrade ? For those that are complete idiots ?? For the Turbo EverDrive, the process is the same as saving a ROM file to your microSD, which you gotta learn how to do to even use the damn thing... =\ In general, it strikes me as not being in his interest to clearly inform you of how simple it is to do it yourself because rather than mentioning "firmware upgrade voucher" it should just say to check krikzz's support section for an upgrade file if available, etc....

[Corredor X]

I want to buy a Turbo Everdrive, but I'm a little afraid of it not working on my PCE because of the +5v voltage issue... Is there a way to know if a certain mod on a certain system will have issues? I have a white PCE with both RGB and region mod, which are very similar to the ones on the mmmonkey site. Does anyone known if I could run into problems with it?

[Duo_R]

this cart is solid, it's not as touchy as some of the older carts

[jperryss]

Thanks for bumping the thread and reminding me that I wanted to order one of these.   

[SamIAm]

It's tempting to make a new thread, but I'll post in here for now.

Does anyone have a Turbo Everdrive and a Supergrafx? If you do, please load up Aldynes and let it run its demo cycle for a couple of hours. I'd like to know if it freezes on you.

I just got my everdrive and I've been testing it a lot, and I am inclined to think that Aldynes has either never been properly dumped or is incompatible with the everdrive. It freezes on me very frequently.

I know the problem is not my Supergrafx, because it plays every hucard I have with no trouble. I also have an original Aldynes hucard and it works just fine.

I know it's probably not the everdrive, because it plays every other game fine, including Daimakaimura and 1941 (also 1MB Supergrafx games), and others like Bonk 3 and Street Fighter 2.

I'm pretty sure it's not my particular ROM, because I've done some downloading from multiple sources and compared the checksums. I've also formatted my SD card and all that jazz.

It's alarming to see that there are five [ b ] versions of the ROM in the Goodset. [ b ] means it's a verified bad dump. Then there's the one version that has no marking - who's to say that that one came out all right? It works in an emulator, but that's not the best indicator.

I'm going to test the [ b ] roms just in case, but if someone else could check the basic version, that would be great.  

[SamIAm]

All of the [ b ] versions are officially borked (which is not surprising, because they are labelled as bad dumps).

If anyone else could test the plain, non-[ b ] version of the Aldynes rom on their actual console, that would be great.

How are Hucards usually dumped, anyway?

[turbokon]

I want to buy a Turbo Everdrive, but I'm a little afraid of it not working on my PCE because of the +5v voltage issue... Is there a way to know if a certain mod on a certain system will have issues? I have a white PCE with both RGB and region mod, which are very similar to the ones on the mmmonkey site. Does anyone known if I could run into problems with it?

I just region modded my pce and now the everdrive does't load the games where else it did before. It's just the load or write in process is where it is not working. I have a region moded tg16 where it loads fine. When I put the everdrive in my pce/ifu combo and hit select to bring the last game loaded, it plays fine.

[Duo_R]

FYI - updated the cover for the custom DS case I am using for this:

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From the makers of such hits like Mega Everdrive and Super Everdrive comes the most amazing, axe swinging, dinosaur bonking, awesome true-color animation product ever released for the TurboGrafx16! POWER UP this amazing card and get that awesome "arcade feel" over and over again! It's so powerful the evil forces of FEKA cannot help but to OBEY!

"I Obeyd time and time again!" - Johnny Turbo

[Joe Redifer]

TurboG?

[Duo_R]

At first I didn't understand no that's the watermark doing that it darkened the bottom portion of the graphic

[Duo_R]

This is pretty nice....somehow I missed this 3D print project


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If we ever get enough interest for a Turbo ED order I wouldnt mind making a custom label for that.

[Bernie]

This is pretty nice....somehow I missed this 3D print project

If we ever get enough interest for a Turbo ED order I wouldnt mind making a custom label for that.

Whoa!  Where can I get one those slip thingies?  That looks great!

[Duo_R]

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Screw version
wayback://shapeways.com/model/794552/

Peg version
http://www.shapeways.com/model/824005/shell-v3-rev-a.html?li=shortUrl&key=a6adf254ca9a748a4636254bbeb46a6f



This company does the 3D print service, this was developed by Buffallowing. A custom label can be created and placed on the top.

[Bernie]

This looks great!

[turbokon]

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Screw version
wayback://shapeways.com/model/794552/

Peg version
http://www.shapeways.com/model/824005/shell-v3-rev-a.html?li=shortUrl&key=a6adf254ca9a748a4636254bbeb46a6f



This company does the 3D print service, this was developed by Buffallowing. A custom label can be created and placed on the top.

I would like to get a couple of these. So have any one here ordered these from the link you provided??

[jperryss]

Those are nice, I'd love to see a group buy for 'em.

[Duo_R]

I can see if there is a bulk discount. No one to my knowledge has tested here but I have seen positive feedback on Assembler forum.

[Duo_R]

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?42373-Custom-Turbo-Everdrive-Shell/page6


Here is the thread I found it:

[whisper2053]

That...

That is absolutely lovely. Something like that would spruce up my nekkid TED quite nicely

[Joe Redifer]

Alright I went ahead and ordered one of those. It will ship by June 3rd, the site said. I'll report back when I get it. Hopefully I'll be smart enough to take pics as I install it. The white version is the cheapest at $22 or so. The black version is the most expensive at $28.50. Since I have a US TurboGrafx I got the black version. Also, I'm pretty stupid with my money. But original PCE owners should opt for the white version. I didn't notice any CoreGrafx or Duo grey colors.

[Duo_R]

Did you get post or screw version?

[NightWolve]

This is pretty nice....somehow I missed this 3D print project

If we ever get enough interest for a Turbo ED order I wouldnt mind making a custom label for that.

Love it!

[Joe Redifer]

Did you get post or screw version?

Post. Can't be sure if I have the correct screws lyin' around.