Just played Lords Of Thunder for the Sega CD ...

Nec.Game.head · 02/05/2013, 12:54 PM

I just in the past few days scored on a Sega cd model 2 that is in full working order .. I burned some iso's of games that I figured I try out first before hunting them down for a good price .. I found out Lords Of Thunder was released for it and myself being such a fan boy of that game had to download it and test it out .. Holly F that game is soo horrible compared to the original !! At first I thought hmm the audio is kinda decent in the opening scene, then I got into the game play and that also is totally F .. The character you play with moves soo slow and his movements are not smooth at all .. Their are few things that seemed kinda appealing while trying it out like some of the color in the levels details and the fact you now have a voice over when powering up your character but that's pretty much it .. So far the 3 games I tried out have horrible slowdown at times when the screen gets full of stuff happening all at once .. I'm gonna really try to give this Sega cd thing an honest chance .. Do any of you know of some games that are a must play for this funky console ??

jlued686 · 02/05/2013, 01:10 PM

Both of the Lunar games.
Flashback
Flink
Vay
Shining Force
Popful Mail
Snatcher

And speaking of Turbo games done on Sega CD, you should check out Dungeon Explorer.

That's all I can think of off hand.

Opethian · 02/05/2013, 01:59 PM

Bari Arm/Android assault is the only shooter worth playing on mega/sega cd
Robo Aleste sucks

JoshTurboTrollX · 02/05/2013, 02:01 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/05/2013, 01:10 PMBoth of the Lunar games.
Flashback
Flink
Vay
Shining Force
Popful Mail
Snatcher

And speaking of Turbo games done on Sega CD, you should check out Dungeon Explorer.

That's all I can think of off hand.

I'd add Sonic CD to that list if you're a fan of Sonic games.

Also, I definitely favor LoT on SCD compared to Sega CD, don't get me wrong, but... are you sure there isn't something wrong with your burn of the ISO? I've played it (Not recently) and noticed a few differences, but nothing to the extent that you've mentioned. The game is not as polished as it should be, and the colours are fugly, but for the most part the game is Lords of Thunder... just for the Sega CD.

HercTNT · 02/05/2013, 02:58 PM

Agree with all of those games but Popful Mail. maybe I don't get it, but its not really that great of a game to me. Very generic in game play. To bad to, cause the animated movies are very good.

NinjaCrackerX · 02/05/2013, 03:02 PM

Ecco
Keio Flying Squadron

Stay away from Sol-Feace, nowhere as good as Sol-Deace on the Genesis.

jeffhlewis · 02/05/2013, 03:27 PM

I was just going to say Sol-Feace is awesome...to each their own I guess, haha. That game is worth it for the redbook soundtrack alone.

-Final Fight CD is probably the best version of the game on a console, still tons of fun 2-player
-Robo Aleste is very enjoyable
-Soulstar and Silpheed are worth a play-through
-The Working Designs games are all worth playing - Vay is the weakest IMHO, the Lunar games are reason enough to own a Sega CD
-Snatcher is overpriced and overrated - in no way shape or form is it worth the pricetag, but it's worth a playthrough if you can borrow/burn a copy. You'll beat the game in like 40 minutes and wonder what the hype is about.

CrackTiger · 02/05/2013, 04:20 PM

Lords of Thunder for Sega-CD is a great port and still very impressive and fun. But it was designed around the PCE hardware, just as Sonic CD on PCE would still look and play nice but wouldn't be the same.

Cobra II/The Space Adventure is one of the best digicomics of the generation and has a great localization.

Flink is cool, although not too much different from the cart version.

Dark Wizard is good if you enjoy fantasy war sims.

NinjaCrackerX · 02/05/2013, 04:51 PM

Quote from: jeffhlewis on 02/05/2013, 03:27 PMI was just going to say Sol-Feace is awesome...to each their own I guess, haha. That game is worth it for the redbook soundtrack alone.

Ok maybe it's not awful I just prefer the Gen port more (for the music, sfx, ending) :-p I forgot about Silpheed that was a fun one!
*Here's an auction that ends soon for Sol Feace that might be available to steal for a dollar plus shipping:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/sol-feace-/150988140334?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item2327982f2e

esadajr · 02/05/2013, 05:29 PM

Terminator is a good platform game.

futureman2000 · 02/05/2013, 06:01 PM

I think Lunar(s) and Final Fight are the best Sega-CD games.

PukeSter · 02/05/2013, 06:10 PM

Sonic CD is my favorite Sonic game. Be warned though, it plays differently than the other Sonics.

esadajr · 02/05/2013, 06:19 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/05/2013, 06:10 PMSonic CD is my favorite Sonic game. Be warned though, it plays differently than the other Sonics.

You bet it plays a bit different. I remember playing it a my friends house with the Sega CD hooked up to his stereo system. That was quite an experience.

bartre · 02/05/2013, 08:48 PM

Quote from: esadajr on 02/05/2013, 05:29 PMTerminator is a good platform game.

I was wondering how long it would take to mention this one.
that said, terminator and sonic CD are really the only reasons to justify a sega CD.
lunar's fine and all, but you might as well go for the PSX versions.

Tatsujin · 02/05/2013, 08:51 PM

Sonic 1 is my favorite Sonic

ParanoiaDragon · 02/05/2013, 09:01 PM

Black Hole Assault!! Kidding, you can just play the Turbo version, I don't recall much different, even then, it's nothing special IIRC. The Sega CD is handy for Piel Solar if you have a version with the cd. If you like the Chuck Rock's, then both are probably the best versions to get, atleast for the music, Earnest Evans(if that's you're bad, I like the cd version best from what little I've played of it), Earthworm Jim(best console version possibly aside from the one on PSN).

MrFlutterPie · 02/05/2013, 09:57 PM

I would recommend:

Terminator
Final Fight
Lethal Enforcers 1&2

Tatsujin · 02/05/2013, 10:20 PM

Bari arms is a real good shewty. Has kinda the turbo style.

Emerald Rocker · 02/05/2013, 10:35 PM

Android Assault (aka Bari-Arm) --- cool shooter with neat visuals and music
Dark Wizard --- F YEAH DARK WIZARD
Final Fight CD --- if you have any love for Final Fight, love this version with a great T's Music soundtrack
Lunar and Lunar 2 --- waaaaaay better than the PSX versions, seriously, F those screwed-up ports
AH-3 Thunderstrike --- super-fun helicopter shooting
Terminator --- worth it for the music alone. Tommy Tallarico is a genius, and this disc is proof
Road Avenger --- a Dragon's Lair style game with extra added awesome
Time Gal --- see above re: Road Avenger, although maybe just a wee bit less awesome
Shining Force CD --- if you enjoy straight-up SRPG battles, this is cool. No towns
Silpheed --- what a ride! Back when it came out, people passed it off as "gimmicky" in comparison to Star Fox, but now it rules

TR0N · 02/06/2013, 02:55 AM

Id recommend keio flying squadron it's a good cute'em up.Still be warn,the u.s version is highly expensive but the jp version is cheaper.

Tatsujin · 02/06/2013, 05:20 AM

Winds of Thunder PCE [x---------------------I---------------------] Lords of Thunder MD
Winds of Thunder PCE [---------x------------I---------------------] Lords of Thunder Turbo

soop · 02/06/2013, 06:12 AM

The only Sega CD games I had were Final Fight and NBA Jam.

It's weird, I really want another Multimega, but honestly, cool though they are, I can never think of more than a handful of CD games I'd ever want to play.

JoshTurboTrollX · 02/06/2013, 09:49 AM

Quote from: bartre on 02/05/2013, 08:48 PM
Quote from: esadajr on 02/05/2013, 05:29 PMTerminator is a good platform game.
I was wondering how long it would take to mention this one.
that said, terminator and sonic CD are really the only reasons to justify a sega CD.
lunar's fine and all, but you might as well go for the PSX versions.

Damn, yea I third the mention of Terminator by Virgin. Very good soundtrack and solid run 'n gun. I need to get me a copy again!

roflmao · 02/06/2013, 09:53 AM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 02/06/2013, 05:20 AMWinds of Thunder PCE [x---------------------I---------------------] Lords of Thunder MD
Winds of Thunder PCE [---------x------------I---------------------] Lords of Thunder Turbo

Lolers, tats. Why is Winds of Thunder PCE rated so much over Lords of Thunder TG16? I always thought they were identical, aside from text changes. OBEY factor?

Tatsujin · 02/06/2013, 10:19 AM

US lords is lacking the uberawesome and goosebumb bringing "thanksgiving" when leaving the shop

jeffhlewis · 02/06/2013, 10:38 AM

Quote from: bartre on 02/05/2013, 08:48 PM
Quote from: esadajr on 02/05/2013, 05:29 PMTerminator is a good platform game.
I was wondering how long it would take to mention this one.
that said, terminator and sonic CD are really the only reasons to justify a sega CD.
lunar's fine and all, but you might as well go for the PSX versions.

Agree with the previous poster that the PSX and Saturn remakes of both Lunars are garbage. Especially Silver Star Story where they couldn't resist screwing around with an already near-perfect plot in the original. It's a case where less is more graphically as well IMHO.

majors · 02/06/2013, 10:42 AM

Quote from: guest on 02/05/2013, 01:10 PMFlink

3rd! Cart was not released in the US, so CD is your easy option. By far my most played and enjoyed Sega CD game I own.

Quote from: jeffhlewis on 02/05/2013, 03:27 PMI was just going to say Sol-Feace is awesome...to each their own I guess, haha. That game is worth it for the redbook soundtrack alone.

For $3-5, 'Feace is a solid game. I have not messed with the cart Deace release much, but Jeff is right on point about the musics. Android Assault reminds me of Thunder/Lightening Force, A GOOD THING! Robo Aleste is a not-as-good Musha or Spriggian, but still good and has tops music.

I'll go with everyone else on Final Fight, good pick up there if you find it. FF is the daddy of the beat'em up genre. You get Guy, two player and CD audio in the Sega CD release.

Snatcher _is_ overpriced, but I think everyone who owns a Sega CD needs to go through it at least once. It took me about 6 years after snagging a copy before I completed it. Wait for a snow day and knock it out in one or two days.

I'm not big on RPGs so I got nothing to say about Lunar, Popful or Vay.

DragonmasterDan · 02/06/2013, 03:39 PM

Lunar 1 and 2 are fantastic and are well worth owning the system for alone.

The English versions of Snatcher and Popful Mail are fantastic as well. I like Sonic CD, I like AH3 Thunderstrike, Keio's Flying Squadron is a great little cute em up. As mentioned by others Android Assualt is fantastic. If you like strategy games Shining Force CD and Dark Wizard aren't bad.

The Sega CD has a lot of games that I think Turbo fans might like. Popful Mail is very similar to the Exile's or Ys 3. The Lunar's are similar enough to Cosmic Fantasy 2 or Dragon Slayer (in fact far better). There's a Dungeon Explorer game on the system. It's a good alternate platform for Turbo fans, while the Sega CD library isn't as shoot-em-up heavy (I'd say Android Assault, Keio's, Sol Feace and Lords of Thunder are all worth owning though) but there's a lot of stuff PC engine fans would appreciate.

xcrement5x · 02/06/2013, 05:06 PM

Poppuru! Poppuru! Poppuru!

Popful Mail is like my favorite game on the Sega CD, but I can only echo a lot of what Dan says as well about the Working Designs games.

A couple good additional standouts that haven't been mentioned are:
Soul Star
Novastorm
Rise of the Dragon
Revenge of the Ninja
The Ecco Games (which sound great)

Also Revengers of Vengeance has a bitchin' name but is kind of meh in my opinion, the opening animation is pretty sweet though.

Joe Redifer · 02/06/2013, 07:30 PM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 02/06/2013, 10:19 AMUS lords is lacking the uberawesome and goosebumb bringing "thanksgiving" when leaving the shop

Sega CD version has the thanksgiving. The US TurboDuo was not powerful enough to have the shop voices. Couldn't be done. Only the Sega CD had enough hardware power and programming talent to do this in the US. The US is the most important country in the entire world (disagree and we will "liberate" you) so therefore the Sega CD version must be the best, Let us give thanks for the thanksgiving!

Emerald Rocker · 02/06/2013, 09:04 PM

That's because Sega CD was a silicon cheetah, and PCE was not.

Tatsujin · 02/06/2013, 11:25 PM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 02/06/2013, 07:30 PM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 02/06/2013, 10:19 AMUS lords is lacking the uberawesome and goosebumb bringing "thanksgiving" when leaving the shop
Sega CD version has the thanksgiving. The US TurboDuo was not powerful enough to have the shop voices. Couldn't be done. Only the Sega CD had enough hardware power and programming talent to do this in the US. The US is the most important country in the entire world (disagree and we will "liberate" you) so therefore the Sega CD version must be the best, Let us give thanks for the thanksgiving!

OK, I wasn't aware of that fact, therefore I corrected the chart as of below:

Winds of Thunder PCE [¨x¨------------------|---------------------] Lords of Thunder MD

esteban · 02/07/2013, 12:34 AM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 02/06/2013, 07:30 PM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 02/06/2013, 10:19 AMUS lords is lacking the uberawesome and goosebumb bringing "thanksgiving" when leaving the shop
Sega CD version has the thanksgiving. The US TurboDuo was not powerful enough to have the shop voices. Couldn't be done. Only the Sega CD had enough hardware power and programming talent to do this in the US. The US is the most important country in the entire world (disagree and we will "liberate" you) so therefore the Sega CD version must be the best, Let us give thanks for the thanksgiving!

STATUS: Truth.

Nec.Game.head · 02/07/2013, 12:39 PM

So I managed to get my hands on some of the Iso's you guys suggested for me to try out before buying the originals and adding them to my collection .. Fatal Fury Special, Final Fight, Keio Flying Squadron, NBA Jam, Popful Mail, Snatcher, Sonic Cd, The Terminator and both Lunar games .. So far I really like Popful Mail and Keio Flying Squadron the best by far, the rest of the games are pretty damn good, except for Snatcher .. That game is definitely what I'm not into .. I also have not had a chance to try out both of the Lunar games .. I'm for sure not hating as much on the Sega Cd like I was a few days ago .. I already took it apart and cleaned up the old lithium grease from the laser assembly and added some fresh new grease to it .. I also added green led's to both the Genesis and the cd attachment, Av modded it and now I'm looking to region mod it and add svideo to it .. Are their any other games I should try out that I'm missing so far ?? Thanks guys for all the great game suggestions ..

PukeSter · 02/07/2013, 04:56 PM

The Mega CD version of Ninja Warriors is much better than the PCE one.

PCEngineHell · 02/07/2013, 06:07 PM

Quote from: Nec.Game.head on 02/07/2013, 12:39 PMSo I managed to get my hands on some of the Iso's you guys suggested for me to try out before buying the originals and adding them to my collection .. Fatal Fury Special

Fatal Fury Special and Samurai Showdown were a sloppy mess on Sega Cd. They had bugs and just over all were not good products, though were playable at least. If you are craving fighters on the system I'd stick to Mortal Kombat and Eternal Champions.

Arkhan Asylum · 02/07/2013, 06:12 PM

What the fucks wrong with Sol Feace?

My suggestions (some were mentioned):

Ecco the Dolphin
Eye of the Beholder
Dungeon Master
Heimdall
Shadow of the Beast 2
Rise of the Dragon
Anything with a Working Designs logo on it
Shining Force CD (Holybitch this ones good)
Dark Wizard, because fuck yeah dark wizard (as E.R. said)
Flashback
Terminator 2 or whatever
Eternal Champions. Fuckkkk yeah this game rules. Xavier is awesome.

Pretty much ANY Sega CD game that isn't full of dumbass FMV games is actually surprisingly fun. So, as long as you don't see like, 16 color Corey Haim on the back of the game, give it a shot.

Rise of the Dragon is a really awesome game, but it takes some time to get into it.

xcrement5x · 02/07/2013, 06:53 PM

Quote from: Nec.Game.head on 02/07/2013, 12:39 PMSo far I really like Popful Mail and Keio Flying Squadron the best by far, the rest of the games are pretty damn good,

ANOTHER CONVERT IS BORN!

Quote from: Nec.Game.head on 02/07/2013, 12:39 PMI also added green led's to both the Genesis and the cd attachment, Av modded it and now I'm looking to region mod it and add svideo to it .. Are their any other games I should try out that I'm missing so far ?? Thanks guys for all the great game suggestions ..

Most of the AV mods on the Genesis to do aren't that bad, S-Vid works well, but if you've got something that handles RGB the system does output that right from the back if you've got the appropriate cable. Region modding the Genny is also pretty straightforward, but modding the SegaCD is a whole other game.

If you wanna play JP games on the Sega CD I recommend one of two things
1) Download the ISOs and change the regions on them to US before burning them to bypass the region check.
or
2) Get a flashcart and you can load different region BIOS files on it so that you can boot the SegaCD into other regions that way.

There is a third way which involves getting a custom BIOS file written to an EEPROM and then installing it into the system, but it's not as trivial as the other mods.

PCEngineHell · 02/07/2013, 08:02 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/07/2013, 06:12 PMMy suggestions (some were mentioned):

Ecco the Dolphin
Eye of the Beholder
Dungeon Master
Heimdall
Shadow of the Beast 2
Rise of the Dragon
Vay
Lunar Silver Star
Lunar Eternal Blue
Shining Force CD
Dark Wizard
Flashback
The Terminator Cd version
Eternal Champions. Fuckkkk yeah this game rules. Xavier is awesome.

Add to that list the following:
Dungeon Explorer
Robo Aleste
Sol Feace
Sonic Cd
Android Assault
Keio Flying Squadron
Mortal Kombat
Time Gal
Road Avenger
Silpheed
JAGUAR XJ220
Road Rash
both Batman games

And for a few cheap lulz, Wirehead.

jeffhlewis · 02/07/2013, 09:07 PM

Batman Returns isn't the greatest game overall but the driving sequences are pretty sweet - really shows what can be done with the hardware scaling/rotation. Keep in mind it was like a 1991 or 1992 release - mind blowing at the time. Core later did similar things with Soulstar and AH3 Thunderstrike.

PCEngineHell · 02/07/2013, 10:30 PM

Thanks for bringing up Soulstar. That was another I was trying to think of but forgot the name of it.

TheClash603 · 02/07/2013, 10:48 PM

Just watched a Terminator video on youtube, never knew that game existed. Looks pretty damn good, will have to pick it up!

With that said, I used to play the hell out of Terminator on the Genesis. I don't know why, but I loved that game.

Tatsujin · 02/08/2013, 09:49 AM

No way, Jose.

CrackTiger · 02/08/2013, 12:46 PM

Lords of Thunder Turbo is much better than Winds of Thunder because of the lack of dubbing (as good as it is in the Sega version). Having the raw cinema music is priceless and much more valuable than a few shop voice samples. Anyone who doesn't own any version yet should stick to the Turbo version.

Arkhan Asylum · 02/08/2013, 01:14 PM

Silpheed is another definite requirement.

My friends mind (and load) was blown when he watched me play that recently. He'd never seen it before.

I also like the Cadillacs and Dinosaurs game.

It's dopey, but I like it.

esteban · 03/10/2013, 01:24 AM

REQUEST: I want a high-quality RIP of the SEGA Lords of Thunder soundtrack! This thread reminded me that I've never compared the two soundtracks (but I've read about the differences? for years now...)

Of course, a tagged, high-bitrate .mp3 would go here: https://archives.tg-16.com/music_database.htm?col=en&val=lord

Thank you in advance.

fraggore · 03/13/2013, 05:04 PM

I haven't long picked up a megacd and played lords of thunder its still a good game, the music is remixed and seems a lot cleaner that the original i like it a lot but i also like the more rugged sounding pce cd music some of my Favorited music on the machine. i even made a hacked disk with the remixed music from the megacd game on the pce cd game i still like playing that lol.

Graphics wise the pce cd is much nicer looking better colors and detail some level section seem a bit diffrent they may have moved a few spites around or it could just be me.

Megacd game is much easier finished it on my first go pretty easy.

On the pce the earth amour is the best realy powerfull on the mega cd doeset seem as good, the wind amour on the pce looks good but its not to powerfull but on the megacd it kicks arse so they must have done a bit tweaking with the game.

At the end of the day it looks good and it you aint got a pce cd its the game to get for the megacd but if you have the option of both pce cd all the way

recomend megacd games
sonic cd
final fight
sol feace
Keio Flying Squadron bit hit of miss to be honest
Android Assault
Robo aleste
Silpheed
thunderhawk

bob · 03/13/2013, 05:11 PM

Quote from: fraggore on 03/13/2013, 05:04 PMrecomend megacd games
sonic cd
final fight
sol feace
Keio Flying Squadron bit hit of miss to be honest
Android Assault
Robo aleste
Silpheed
thunderhawk

fraggore · 03/13/2013, 05:28 PM

lol

The machine hasn't realy got a top list of games i am trying lol.

xcrement5x · 03/14/2013, 03:56 PM

Quote from: esteban on 03/10/2013, 01:24 AMREQUEST: I want a high-quality RIP of the SEGA Lords of Thunder soundtrack! This thread reminded me that I've never compared the two soundtracks (but I've read about the differences? for years now...)

Of course, a tagged, high-bitrate .mp3 would go here: https://archives.tg-16.com/music_database.htm?col=en&val=lord

Thank you in advance.

Is there a specific way you want this game ripped? I've got the Sega CD version and can probably just make WAV files of the tracks on the disc if you want, I don't do a lot of CD ripping so let me know.