Blazing Lazers Debug Mode

Keranu · 01/30/2007, 09:05 PM

I'm having trouble accessing the debug mode in this game. According to this link, you have to "Enable the "Sound test" code. Press I, II then tap Select repeatedly until the debug screen appears. The following debug functions may now be enabled." I can access the Sound Mode easily, but I'm getting no sign of the debug mode.

Keranu · 01/30/2007, 09:28 PM

Nevermind I figured it out. For those having the same problem, a debug message or menu doesn't actually appear. After pressing I and II in the sound test screen, press Select a bunch of times and then go to a specific number for whatever debug option you want to do.

Joe Redifer · 01/30/2007, 09:40 PM

y do u want 2 cheat so much lol?

Keranu · 01/30/2007, 09:45 PM

I wanted to access to level select so I could replay some of my favorite levels.

Joe Redifer · 01/30/2007, 09:51 PM

uh ha lol. u just wanted 2 cheat and beat the game bcuz otherwise u cant get past level 1 amirite lol!

Keranu · 01/30/2007, 09:53 PM

No actually I wanted to hack the debug mode so I could cut out the empty space of level 2.

Joe Redifer · 01/30/2007, 09:56 PM

sure sure u cheater! i bet u cheated on all ur tests in skool too! and u cheat at dodgeball in jim class. and u cheat on ur wife!

Keranu · 01/30/2007, 10:46 PM

wel u got me there i do cheat on my wife

Joe Redifer · 01/30/2007, 11:05 PM

omg lol who duzzent???

OldRover · 01/30/2007, 11:29 PM

I don't.

Tatsujin · 01/31/2007, 01:10 AM

Quote from: Keranu on 01/30/2007, 09:45 PMI wanted to access to level select so I could replay some of my favorite levels.

great idea. does this one also work on the japanese one?

Keranu · 01/31/2007, 02:13 AM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 01/31/2007, 01:10 AM
Quote from: Keranu on 01/30/2007, 09:45 PMI wanted to access to level select so I could replay some of my favorite levels.
great idea. does this one also work on the japanese one?

I have the Japanese version too, but haven't tried it yet. I imagine it would.

ParanoiaDragon · 01/31/2007, 02:51 AM

Quote from: OldRover on 01/30/2007, 11:29 PMI don't.

Nor do I, & nor will I ever

Tatsujin · 01/31/2007, 05:54 AM

Quote from: Keranu on 01/31/2007, 02:13 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 01/31/2007, 01:10 AM
Quote from: Keranu on 01/30/2007, 09:45 PMI wanted to access to level select so I could replay some of my favorite levels.
great idea. does this one also work on the japanese one?
I have the Japanese version too, but haven't tried it yet. I imagine it would.

great, will try it out tonight when i have some time left

guyjin · 01/31/2007, 07:48 AM

actually, the code may not work on the Japanese version - I know that the american codes for Super Star Soldier do not work on the Japanese game.

nat · 01/31/2007, 01:46 PM

Just as there are codes for Dragon's Curse that only work on the Japanese region cart. A lot of codes seem to be region-independent, for whatever reason.

Keranu · 01/31/2007, 02:02 PM

Very interesting. Hopefully it works then, Tatsujin.

Keranu · 01/31/2007, 02:27 PM

While we are on the discussion of Blazing Lazers, can anyone give me a clear explanination on how the purple orb things (or gel capsules whatever they call them in the manual) work? The instruction manual says how collecting them powers up your weapon so many times, but do these orbs allow you to continue from where you died as well? I've had this discussion a few times but I never really got a clear answer on how many orbs it takes to allow you to continue. I would assume around 10, but that could easily be wrong.

esteban · 01/31/2007, 09:59 PM

Quote from: Keranu on 01/31/2007, 02:27 PMWhile we are on the discussion of Blazing Lazers, can anyone give me a clear explanination on how the purple orb things (or gel capsules whatever they call them in the manual) work? The instruction manual says how collecting them powers up your weapon so many times, but do these orbs allow you to continue from where you died as well? I've had this discussion a few times but I never really got a clear answer on how many orbs it takes to allow you to continue. I would assume around 10, but that could easily be wrong.

I think you'll be able to find my old post (if it was here and not magicengine). The purple gels are only for powering up. The blinking gels, that make everything on the screen blow-up: those give you one credit to "continue without reverting to checkpoint." I collect tons of the blinking gels during the course of a game, but I'm not sure if there is a limit to how many you keep "in reserve." All I know is that I've purposefully killed myself repeatedly to see if I would be sent back to a checkpoint, but I don't think I ever was.

Unfortunately, I can't recall how many credits I had at the time (8? 10? 12?).

I have never read about this anywhere (online or offline) ... so it would be nice if folks could confirm how this undocumented feature actually works.

Keranu · 01/31/2007, 10:33 PM

Thanks a lot for the info, Steve! That seems to make a lot of sense then, but yes anyone who can confirm this would be even better. I tried searching from that thread you mentioned before I made this one, but had no luck finding it (was a rather brief search to be honest). That thread had some good info in it.

elnino · 02/01/2007, 04:22 AM

As Steve has correctly mentioned, the purple orbs are just for powering up your weapon. Basically a huge amount of them (I don't know the exact number) have the same effect as one orb with the Roman number of your weapon, therefore you don't really need them for powering up. The blinking ones allow you to continue on spot without being reset. I will count them the next time I play the game since I don't know if you have to collect multiple blinkers to get one continue and if there's a limit.

elnino · 02/01/2007, 04:23 AM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 01/31/2007, 05:54 AM
Quote from: Keranu on 01/31/2007, 02:13 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 01/31/2007, 01:10 AM
Quote from: Keranu on 01/30/2007, 09:45 PMI wanted to access to level select so I could replay some of my favorite levels.
great idea. does this one also work on the japanese one?
I have the Japanese version too, but haven't tried it yet. I imagine it would.
great, will try it out tonight when i have some time left

Have you tried?^^

Tatsujin · 02/01/2007, 06:49 AM

Quote from: elnino on 02/01/2007, 04:23 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 01/31/2007, 05:54 AM
Quote from: Keranu on 01/31/2007, 02:13 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 01/31/2007, 01:10 AM
Quote from: Keranu on 01/30/2007, 09:45 PMI wanted to access to level select so I could replay some of my favorite levels.
great idea. does this one also work on the japanese one?
I have the Japanese version too, but haven't tried it yet. I imagine it would.
great, will try it out tonight when i have some time left
Have you tried?^^

Tatsujin · 02/01/2007, 06:50 AM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 02/01/2007, 06:49 AM
Quote from: elnino on 02/01/2007, 04:23 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 01/31/2007, 05:54 AM
Quote from: Keranu on 01/31/2007, 02:13 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 01/31/2007, 01:10 AM
Quote from: Keranu on 01/30/2007, 09:45 PMI wanted to access to level select so I could replay some of my favorite levels.
great idea. does this one also work on the japanese one?
I have the Japanese version too, but haven't tried it yet. I imagine it would.
great, will try it out tonight when i have some time left
Have you tried?^^

nopy^^

elnino · 02/01/2007, 07:25 AM

Ano ahou!!

Tatsujin · 02/01/2007, 07:42 AM

Quote from: elnino on 02/01/2007, 07:25 AMAno ahou!!

sie sorry aber ähmm..

esteban · 02/01/2007, 11:06 AM

Quote from: elnino on 02/01/2007, 04:22 AMAs Steve has correctly mentioned, the purple orbs are just for powering up your weapon. Basically a huge amount of them (I don't know the exact number) have the same effect as one orb with the Roman number of your weapon, therefore you don't really need them for powering up. The blinking ones allow you to continue on spot without being reset. I will count them the next time I play the game since I don't know if you have to collect multiple blinkers to get one continue and if there's a limit.

I haven't played the game in years, but I'm pretty certain 1 blinker = 1 continue. I remember experimenting to try to figure out how it worked. I was playing one of the harder modes (godhead?) and dying a lot... those blinkers actually come in handy in the harder modes!

It will be awesome if you could determine if there is a limit to the number of blinkers you can keep in reserve (well, you can only test this in relation to the total number of credits you can acquire).

grahf · 02/01/2007, 12:17 PM

So, anyone try the debug mode on Gunhed yet?

Keranu · 02/01/2007, 02:08 PM

Just tried performing the debug mode on Gunhed and it didn't work

. I wasn't even able to get to the sound mode, which makes sense since the title screen is completely different from Blazing Lazers.

Keranu · 02/01/2007, 02:11 PM

Quote from: elnino on 02/01/2007, 04:22 AMAs Steve has correctly mentioned, the purple orbs are just for powering up your weapon. Basically a huge amount of them (I don't know the exact number) have the same effect as one orb with the Roman number of your weapon, therefore you don't really need them for powering up. The blinking ones allow you to continue on spot without being reset. I will count them the next time I play the game since I don't know if you have to collect multiple blinkers to get one continue and if there's a limit.

Very good info, thanks. I think you left something important out though and that is once you collect so many purple orbs, a orb with the Roman number of your weapon will come down BUT you can actually shoot these orbs until they explode and become a blinking orb

. Now it looks like we're really getting somewhere with this orb system

. I guess all we have to figure out now is how many purple orbs it takes to receive a Roman Numeral / Blinking orb.

nat · 02/01/2007, 05:01 PM

I wonder why this all wasn't documented better in the manual.

Keranu · 02/01/2007, 10:42 PM

I would like to know this as well. It could've really came in handy.

elnino · 02/02/2007, 04:37 AM

I played the game yesterday and can confirm that each blinker gives you one continue. I got 9 of them and wasn't reset 9 times. Unfortunately I'm a little out of practice and couldn't collect more of them but I will try again. I think if there is a limit it's going to be 16 blinkers, the same number as the bombs'.

Since I was playing the game I could have tried the debug mode on the japanese version as well but I forgot

elnino · 02/02/2007, 04:56 AM

Quote from: Keranu on 02/01/2007, 02:11 PMI think you left something important out though and that is once you collect so many purple orbs, a orb with the Roman number of your weapon will come down BUT you can actually shoot these orbs until they explode and become a blinking orb .

Cool, I didn't know that the appearance of these switching orbs (either weapon or missiles) is related to the number of purple orbs you collect!

Keranu · 02/02/2007, 04:15 PM

Quote from: elnino on 02/02/2007, 04:37 AMI played the game yesterday and can confirm that each blinker gives you one continue. I got 9 of them and wasn't reset 9 times. Unfortunately I'm a little out of practice and couldn't collect more of them but I will try again. I think if there is a limit it's going to be 16 blinkers, the same number as the bombs'.

Since I was playing the game I could have tried the debug mode on the japanese version as well but I forgot

Awesome, that's great info, thanks! I was also playing the game recently to see how many purple orbs it takes for a blinking orb to come down and it's hard to get an exact number. The first time I encountered a blinking orb in the first level took about 17 purple orbs, but this might not be accurate because these blinking orbs don't come down immediately. I should also mention that these blinking orbs are sent down from a green version of the little ship that sends you items.

elnino · 02/05/2007, 03:47 PM

The debug mode does work on the japanese version as well. The same goes for most of the other cheats on the site Keranu's has provided in his first post. However, don't try to do the Invincibility cheat on Gunhed since your screen will become green and starts to flicker as hell leaving you no other choice than power off your system.

CrackTiger · 02/05/2007, 04:34 PM

I'm pretty sure Gunhed has most or all of BL's tricks and maybe even more.

I had a japanese site with PCE tricks bookmarked, but I just found that it's no longer up.

Looking at one of my PCE trick books, it looks like Gunhed does have an Invincibility Mode, but I haven't been able to completely decipher the trick. It looks like you enter 57 at the debug screen and then push Down, even though pressing Down crashes the game.

Would anyone fluent in japanese like to translate this-

elnino · 02/05/2007, 05:28 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/05/2007, 04:34 PMLooking at one of my PCE trick books, it looks like there is a debug mode that is accessed after opening up the sound test mode ("Music Mode") or something.

I'll have to sit down and relearn the directional symbols before I can translate it. But I'm on my way out the door, so I'll try to post all of Gunhed's tricks later tonight.

You don't have to, just take a look at Keranu's first post and the link there. The cheats do work for Blazing lazers as well as Gunhed except for the Invincibility cheat as I mentioned in my previous post. I tested them a few hours ago. No need for brute force!

Keranu · 02/05/2007, 05:57 PM

Quote from: elnino on 02/05/2007, 03:47 PMThe debug mode does work on the japanese version as well. The same goes for most of the other cheats on the site Keranu's has provided in his first post. However, don't try to do the Invincibility cheat on Gunhed since your screen will become green and starts to flicker as hell leaving you no other choice than power off your system.

How did you get into the sound mode in Gunhed? I wasn't able to do it when I tried it.

CrackTiger · 02/05/2007, 06:00 PM

I originally misread an earlier post on my way out the door and thought that no one had been able to get into the debug mode.

See my last post for the invincibility trick.

Keranu, at the intro just hold Select down, then press Left then Right alternately (10 times) until you enter the Sound Test.

EDIT: I just got the trick to work. You're supposed to reset once the game crashes and then start a just game and you'll have invincibility. Select + Run wouldn't work, so I just used Magic Engine's reset feature to get it to work. Maybe on real hardware you need to quickly turn the power off and back on to do it. I'd try it myself, but I don't own Gunhed and am too lazy to put it on my flash card.

Keranu · 02/05/2007, 06:07 PM

Oh at the intro! I kept trying it on the title screen like in Blazing Lazers. Thanks!

elnino · 02/06/2007, 02:25 AM

Quote from: Keranu on 02/05/2007, 06:07 PMOh at the intro! I kept trying it on the title screen like in Blazing Lazers. Thanks!

It doesn't have to be the intro, you can insert the cheat at the title screen as well, it worked for me. Maybe you pressed a wrong button or weren't trying hard enough.

elnino · 02/06/2007, 02:26 AM

Quote from: guest on 02/05/2007, 06:00 PMI just got the trick to work. You're supposed to reset once the game crashes and then start a just game and you'll have invincibility. Select + Run wouldn't work, so I just used Magic Engine's reset feature to get it to work. Maybe on real hardware you need to quickly turn the power off and back on to do it. I'd try it myself, but I don't own Gunhed and am too lazy to put it on my flash card.

Thanks for the info, I'll try for myself today.

Keranu · 02/06/2007, 02:28 AM

Strange, I guess I just wasn't doing it right then.

elnino · 02/06/2007, 05:16 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/05/2007, 06:00 PMEDIT: I just got the trick to work. You're supposed to reset once the game crashes and then start a just game and you'll have invincibility. Select + Run wouldn't work, so I just used Magic Engine's reset feature to get it to work. Maybe on real hardware you need to quickly turn the power off and back on to do it.

I tested it on a CoreGrafx today and as I expected, it didn't work. After the game crashes I'm forced to power off the system but when I turn the power on again I'm still as vulnerable as always.

Tatsujin · 02/06/2007, 07:30 PM

Quote from: guest on 02/05/2007, 04:34 PMWould anyone fluent in japanese like to translate this-

it only describes, how to access the invincible mode

Tatsujin · 02/06/2007, 07:36 PM

Quote from: elnino on 02/06/2007, 05:16 PMI'm still as vulnerable as always.

CrackTiger · 02/06/2007, 08:15 PM

Alright, I just tried Gunhed on my PCE using my flash card and I got the invincibility trick to work both with 57 and 77, by pressing Up then Down as the BL trick works.

The only thing is, the game is also running in slow mo and the intro & title screen were slightly glitchy.

Maybe the slowdown is a bug from using the flashcard?

Keranu, the Sound Test trick was impossible for me to do using my thumb. I had to use two fingers to on the d-pad to get it to work.

EDIT: For whatever reasons, I've never played Blazing Lazers or Gunhed before. After trying out those tricks, I reset and tried out the first level just to see what the game is like. I wound up getting sucked in and just finished the game without dying.

I was impressed by myself... until I hit Run at the title screen after the credits to see if anything had been unlocked. Since it just entered the regular game again, I started this post. After noticing how long the music was playing, I looked over to see that the invincibility tricked was still active, even though I'd just played through the game without the slowdown.

BUT! I never lost my shields the entire game and I just tested it out and you don't die unless your shields completely disappear and you then you take a hit. So as far as I'm concerned, I really did finish the game without dying.

I tried to repeat the invincibility trick, but couldn't get the second part of the trick to work and reset. Now I can't get the Sound Test trick to work on either my Gunhed loaded flash card or Blazing Lazers Turbochip.

But my current theory is that you perform the invincibilty trick as described above and then reset the slo mo game to play at full speed.

I have some questions for people who have more experience with these games.

Is it normal for the occassional power up to get hooked on your shot and sometimes stay in one spot for a long time? I saw this happen while trying out Super Star Soldier on Wii and thought that it was probably a bug.

Was that lady kept as part of the last boss in the U.S., version?

At the 'The End' screen after a while I picked the control pad off of the floor and suddenly 'Select A/B' appeared at the bottom right corner of the screen, in the same font as 'The End', but after hesitating to push any buttons, it then disappeared. What the hell is that?

Keranu · 02/06/2007, 10:09 PM

Cool stuff, Black_tiger!

Quote from: guest on 02/06/2007, 08:15 PMKeranu, the Sound Test trick was impossible for me to do using my thumb. I had to use two fingers to on the d-pad to get it to work.

Actually I usually use this method whenever I access the Sound Mode on Blazing Lazers too, it's a lot easier.

Quote from: Black_PantherWas that lady kept as part of the last boss in the U.S., version?

Yep.

elnino · 02/07/2007, 03:04 AM

Quote from: guest on 02/06/2007, 08:15 PMIs it normal for the occassional power up to get hooked on your shot and sometimes stay in one spot for a long time? I saw this happen while trying out Super Star Soldier on Wii and thought that it was probably a bug.

Yes, that's completely normal and no bug at all. These power ups switch between the weapons (I - IV) or the missiles (S,M,F,H). As long as you shoot at them, the display weapon is on hold and you can get it if you want. However, if you keep shooting at it, it will eventually change into a blinker who clears the screen and gives you a continue which means you can restart from where you are once you die and don't have to go back to the last checkpoint. These blinkers exist in Super Star Soldier as well, with the same purpose.

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