Wanna help compile a crappy ebay/net game/laserdisc/arcade buyer/seller list?

[PCEngineHell]

Currently me and  a friend have a ongoing banned member list,that continues to grow. There are a couple of members on here that either sucked as a buyer,or as a seller,or both. There are a couple listed because of excessive profiteering off gamers too,but you will have to make  a personal judgment on wether you would want to deal with that type of person or not,or any of these people,but either way,this would be a great spot to place bad member ids.
The list:
 jcaleiras (currently purposefully selling a non working MVS Rage of the Dragons MVS cart,listing he has no way to test it so its as is,even though he has a consolized 1-slot and many MVS carts. His response to being busted was "Buy at your own risk".)
 Cephalgy
 johnjohn5274
 2800yen
 2many_collectibles
 3secsnipe
 aorian_star
  arienzo1
 banger98
 bear_pawjeff
 benchards
 big-b-toys
 bjomama
 bluebell1917
 bozzspring77
 br1574
 cdad54
compstuff58
czsoccer
 ddav44
dragsy
dsaucierjr20
 endless201
 flammie_634
 frostadue
 fura-philomina
greatcompany026
 guingo
ironcross895
 itchybon
jmkurtz
 kingdragonzero
 leonardo160714
 lolanglenn
lrb7962
marine_2k4
 mellissalaserdisc
 mustangclassics5
 neotropolis
 oldcompcollector2003
 ovenman6677
 peyton_anthony69
 poeticjedigamer
saturn09
starlitegaming
shaka818
sidtx17
sl_dickens
spacescorpion79
 thebigd80
 tink-a-link
 usrpguk
 whiteyflyer
 wildecoyote1966
 ThsGrlLvsThtGirl@aol.com
 e.cook@fuse.net
 16-bit
 Shooters49ers
 squirrleyguy
 x-vision-x
 invideo2002
Fixing to be added to this list are shooters49ers for a item not received and no response to claim filed in paypal, and discountgames for a similar situation. They did not included in the package everything I had paid for,and they sent me damaged goods also including carts with badly damaged labels,excessive rental stickers,and a cart that was melted and warped on the back casing. This type of stuff was not listed in the details. Discountgames did send  a check for a slight refund,but I do not accept personal checks of any type when its ebay involved,checks from unreliable members tend to bounce,and they have not to this day responded back to the dispute/claim opened on paypal.

I did the above to their check and mailed it back to them. They tried to refund me outside of paypal hoping I would drop the claim so it wouldn't go on record. Note they didn't even make the check out to the right person involved. They made it out to my girlfriend,who is listed on the second address on my paypal account.

Update: After digging further into things on Discountgames  I found that they receive over  a 100 negatives a month,but they usually get unnoticed by the percentage system because the seller sells over 15000 items a month. About every negative left has been for not receiving a item,or getting wrong item or something. Discountgames always leaves  a generic negative feedback in response,even though the buyer is not at fault,only the seller. Basically Bullseye on a mass scale,but with semi-lower prices on some items. Its too bad because they do have a nice selection of games with what would be fair prices if not for the fact of all the problems involved.

[Kitsunexus]

Not just eBay, but everywhere you see "invideo2002" AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE. You have to threaten him with legal action just to get your stuff, and then it's in SHITTY condition.

His supposed name is Daniel O'Rear, if that's his real name, and someone can trace his home address (I think he ships from an office) let me know via PM, and I can make sure that at least ONE scammer never scams again.

[merriman_bk]

squirrleyguy
x-vision-x

I'd name more but the faggots are no longer registered on ebay.

[PCEngineHell]

Update to Shooters49ers. Paypal granted me a refund today. In response to this I got a email from Shooters.

From: "paul schuknecht" <pschuknecht@sympatico.ca>
 I hope your happy with your free game you crook!

I gave this seller a month for the item to arrive,and it never did. He is possibly a lair and obviously a jerk.

[guyjin]

listing usernames won't help much, since it's too easy to just drop them and get another. (it makes sense for the big sellers, though.) for the smaller sellers, you should list name and general location, if not their address.

[PCEngineHell]

If you look the name up it will show if they changed names. And if you are  a seller and wish to ban them all you have to do is copy the names and paste then on your blocked member page. If they change their id name it gets updated on the blocked page automatically .If they create a completely new account then sure,that does make things harder,but I think you can also add their email address,and it will block any id that is registered with it.

Id rather do this then not,nothing is 100 percent effective,but it still helps. Like lets say a seller on one of these list has ripped people off before,and you have  a paypal claim open against him. If he is mentioned by others,not just yourself,you can give  a link to this thread to paypal during the claim process. They tend to look at everything I have ever sent them in regards to a claim during the review process,and so I have as of yet not had problems with  a refund from a crappy seller. It really helps if you can show the seller does it often to others in or outside of ebay.

[Kitsunexus]

Those really ballsy types AREN'T going to change their names, so this is still a nice list to have.

Update to Shooters49ers. Paypal granted me a refund today. In response to this I got a email from Shooters.

From: "paul schuknecht" <pschuknecht@sympatico.ca>
 I hope your happy with your free game you crook!

I gave this seller a month for the item to arrive,and it never did. He is possibly a lair and obviously a jerk.

Put that f*cker on the list.

[PCEngineHell]

Those ids you listed have been added. Also,possibly soon to be on there is a starlitegaming.
Star Lite Gaming sells arcade parts it seems,and has 100 percent feedback. I decided to give them a try only to now get  a couple of messages from other customers of theirs asking if I have gotten any contact from this seller,or my item. They said it has been over 2 weeks since they have paid and have not received anything from the seller. After this I contacted other customers of this seller who purchased the exact same item I did,a RGB to NTSC encoder for a customer,and the people I sent messages to confirmed they have not received anything from the seller either. One of the buyers lives very close by the seller,so there is not much excuse for this.

I have opened a dispute over the matter,and listed the complete situation in the message box for the seller to read. If no proof of item shipped is sent to me by friday I am bumping the dispute up to a claim. Sometimes even the best sellers can go belly up and try to clean house before they run. It end sup taking a few weeks for people to even figure out what has happened sometimes. A local friend of mine has also said that they have been spamming the Neo forums here and there,which makes me wonder even more then before about this seller.

Added info: Starlitegaming.com
Star Lite Gaming Inc.
5758 Hwy.85, Bldg. M246
Riverdale, Ga. 30274

Sales: sales@starlitegaming.com
Sales: slgsalez@yahoo.com

Tel: 1-404-610-8385
Fax: 1-770-909-1064

[Kitsunexus]

Those ids you listed have been added. Also,possibly soon to be on there is a starlitegaming.
Star Lite Gaming sells arcade parts it seems,and has 100 percent feedback.

Do some research on that feedback, I'd be willing to bet most of it is fake praise set up by them.

[PCEngineHell]

Their feedback looks legit,but these days who knows. I tried to send  a fax to them,but it failed.



Your fax to Star Lite Gaming at 7709091064 has failed after 5 attempts.
   - The phone company reports a problem with that number
      (it might be disconnected or a bad area code, etc.)


Thank you
FaxZero.com

[Zor Prime]

I had a tremendously bad experience with a seller over Christmas.

Basically I had managed to get an XBOX 360 and paid for it and all, for wife for Christmas.

Seller never ships.  Had "good" feedback (like 98% positive or so).  You know, out of the other 2% at least some of those buyers were probably asinine anyway.

But that isn't my point.

The funny part is, right before the seller went MIA with my cash and undoubtedly many other people, on eBay he purchased a damn ROLEX!  Which costed 3/4 thousand dollars.

Then turns up no longer a registered member.

Friggin ROLEX, man.  May he burn in whatever infinite pain.  That SOB ruined Christmas for many people.

What I don't get why spend so much time building yourself up to become overall appropriately presentable on eBay and what not, only to turn around and accept cash from lots of people (and not ship) and use it on a watch then hit the road?

Insane.

But man a ROLEX.   

[esteban]

Michael, this is a great idea. I'm sure a lot of folks will find this useful.

And, even if sellers start new accounts to hide their unsavory past, the process of starting anew is annoying. At the very least, I want these bastards to work harder in order to scam folks.

[PCEngineHell]

I am adding Star Lite Gaming. I got a refund from them,but only after exposing everything that was going on including a dead fax number and insisting that if they can not prove shipment of my item by friday I was going to bump the dispute to  a claim. I let other customers of theirs know too. Also,I forwarded the only reply I ever got from them,from this morning,to every member that contacted me about them. On the reply Star Lite said they did not have the encoders even in stock,because of a "mishap" they say they goofed and shipped every encoder they had to one customer,and are in the process of getting them all back,but said if they could not they could get more on the way.


They insisted on blaming a competitor for other members contacting me,which is highly doubtful. The truth of the matter is they were not replying back to customers,nor sending them their items. Thats why all this madness has been occurring. If even a bit of the above is true then they need to pull the encoders listed off ebay,and send notice to every customer. However,I really don't believe any of it. I don't believe it possible to fuck up so big on accident. I think they are either up to no good,or they simply ran out of stock long ago and persisted on continuing to take orders with the intention of filling them when ever the items make their way from Asia or where ever,which could be weeks on end.

[VestCunt]

Thanks Michael, good list.
FYI, I've seen 3secsnipe buying a lot of Turbo games recently, including one of mine!  He won a copy of Alien Crush from me.  In my terms, I stated that payment must be received within 3 days if the buyer was paying with paypal.  I got my money from him over a week later after a friendly reminder.  Looking at his paypal address (when I finally got it) it turns out that 3secsnipe is none other than asemasterautotechnician.
Asemaster also sniped an auction from me recently for the 2nd time (oh course, I do some sniping from time-to-time, but he's a STORE! *hurmph* ).
 

Seller never ships.  Had "good" feedback (like 98% positive or so).  You know, out of the other 2% at least some of those buyers were probably asinine anyway.

98% feedback is ok if someone has one or two hundred transactions under their belt, but if you're dealing with a seller who's hustling large quantities of merchandise, stay away from them unless they have at least 99% positive feedback.

[PCEngineHell]

Thanks Michael, good list.
FYI, I've seen 3secsnipe buying a lot of Turbo games recently, including one of mine!  He won a copy of Alien Crush from me.  In my terms, I stated that payment must be received within 3 days if the buyer was paying with paypal.  I got my money from him over a week later after a friendly reminder.  Looking at his paypal address (when I finally got it) it turns out that 3secsnipe is none other than asemasterautotechnician.
Asemaster also sniped an auction from me recently for the 2nd time (oh course, I do some sniping from time-to-time, but he's a STORE! *hurmph* ).
 

Seller never ships.  Had "good" feedback (like 98% positive or so).  You know, out of the other 2% at least some of those buyers were probably asinine anyway.

98% feedback is ok if someone has one or two hundred transactions under their belt, but if you're dealing with a seller who's hustling large quantities of merchandise, stay away from them unless they have at least 99% positive feedback.

Yea I knew it was Asemaster. Back when we had this big massive debate about resellers I had mentioned that I had banned his buyers account. How I found out it was him was that he used that 3secsnipe account to win a Gate of Thunder copy from me. What was funny was that it was a copy I bought from him like 3 months before hand. Hes a really nice guy and all,as far as a seller goes,but I just don't like to sell to resellers out to make  a profit. I explained the situation to him and he took it well. Id rather hopefully know I am selling possibly to a gamer that just wants the item for themselves,if at all possible.

I get knocked for this,but its just something I stand firm on.


My rating is 98.5 percent. I only have  a couple of negatives from buyers,and it was buyers who received their item,but were being unreasonable in some manner,or in the case of my first negative,from a wacko who thought he could pay by any method he chose,even though I stated what I accepted clearly in the auction. I left the guy a neutural and he gave me  a negative in return. Any other negative is from bad sellers who I had to file claims on. I have had to do this quite a bit.



 

Member Profile: amakusashiroamd666 (397Feedback score is 100 to 499)

        Feedback Score:    397    
   Positive Feedback:    98.5%    
   Members who left a positive:    403    
   Members who left a negative:    6    
   All positive feedback received:    564

[esteban]

Michael, I actually feel the same as you: asemaster has always been a decent fellow. That said, folks whose intent is to merely profit from video games (or anything) are parasites, as far as I am concerned.

RANT (I don't want to derail this topic):
I know, I know, I'm breaking a cardinal sin in the ruthless world of business, but I would never operate a business that way. A "decent" profit is all I need, I don't need "maximum" profit. I had a small mailorder business back in the day (records / fanzines) and I functioned primarily as a distributor. I only asked for a small markup on the items I carried. A lot of folks in the community followed this model, and I followed suit.

I should point out that doing business within a "community" -- a community that you are part of -- can lead to a different set of priorities.

Thus, I can see folks seeking maximum profit on certain items / services if the profit is used to subsidize other things that benefit the community.

That's the key thing: does the community benefit? If not, then we have parasitism...
END RANT

[SignOfZeta]

Um...I don't know...about this.

First of all, waiting a month for a game (or anything else) isn't long enough. Maybe if its UPS, but then there should have been a tracking number. If a USPS package goes missing you'd be lucky to have it in a month. A while ago I mailed two DVDs back to Netflix at the same time (put them in the post together), and somehow they only got one. It eventually showed up, but it took about 3-4 weeks to happen.

Also, if a seller really sells 15,000 items a month on eBay its totally impossible to not get some negative feedback because there are plenty of dick buyers out there. I think 100 negatives a month at that level of selling would be conservative. And then, when other buyers see that negative feedback they are much more likely to jump on the bandwagon and also leave negatives. Also, with the now almost totally automated eBay we have these days, buying things is too easy for some people. They commit to things they don't understand...

I'm saying this as someone who has been buy/sell/trading on the internet since I was using an Xband in my SNES and I've only been screwed once, about 5 months ago. (http://www.himuragames.com/).

Once I bought a joystick from a guy that was described as working. It was a SS Virtua Stick Pro modded to include PS support. When I got the stick the SS function was defective (a button was stuck down) and the PS function was non-operational. I opened the stick and from the crap workmanship in there I could see that the SS function couldn't have been working right since the PS stuff was added (sloppy soldering) so I doubt it was ever tested by anyone. I emailed him about it and he wouldn't work with me, so I fixed the stick myself, and left neutral feedback. What does this guy do? He leaves *me* neutral feedback! WTF did I do? I didn't stop payment or anything. That guy is no longer a registered eBay user and so my neutral is gone, but it does prove you can get screwed for zero reason at all.

Also, 16-bit is on this list. Isn't he like...loved by some buyers?

And lastly, "excessive profiteering"...that's a bunch of crap. If its too expensive, don't buy it.

[PCEngineHell]

First of all, waiting a month for a game (or anything else) isn't long enough. Maybe if its UPS, but then there should have been a tracking number. If a USPS package goes missing you'd be lucky to have it in a month. A while ago I mailed two DVDs back to Netflix at the same time (put them in the post together), and somehow they only got one. It eventually showed up, but it took about 3-4 weeks to happen.

I understand items being lost in the mail,that can not be helped,and is why I always pay for insurance and tracking when at all possible,however I don't think I referred to anything being lost in the mail. If more then 10 days have gone by and the seller has not sent the item then there is  a problem. Paypal only gives you 45 days I think,so waiting past a month to file a claim is not a very wise move if you suspect you are being ripped off.

Also, if a seller really sells 15,000 items a month on eBay its totally impossible to not get some negative feedback because there are plenty of dick buyers out there. I think 100 negatives a month at that level of selling would be conservative. And then, when other buyers see that negative feedback they are much more likely to jump on the bandwagon and also leave negatives. Also, with the now almost totally automated eBay we have these days, buying things is too easy for some people. They commit to things they don't understand...

When you order 13 items from this seller,and of the 13 only 12 are in the package,and of those 12 all arrived in poor condition,which is not how they were described in the auction details for each item I completely fail to see how this is conservative. Thats 13 purchases screwed up in one fail swoop. I don't agree with the bandwagon comment other then the fact that if they are not getting their items,the seller is not responding to emails,paypal claims ect ect they all have a right to be upset and leave negatives.

I'm saying this as someone who has been buy/sell/trading on the internet since I was using an Xband in my SNES and I've only been screwed once, about 5 months ago. (http://www.himuragames.com/).

Maybe you are incredibly lucky then,however I have had way more people try to screw me over as the list showed, and so have other members here I'm sure,so your experience is not the same as ours I guess.

Also, 16-bit is on this list. Isn't he like...loved by some buyers?

He probably is,however he sent Black-Tiger the ugliest Shuttlegrafx I have ever seen,doubledipped on the shipping,and sent me a Martial Champion that unlike the auction description of great condition, arrived actually in poor,with rugged case,poor condition manual with rusty staples,and a disc with several large scratches. This is why he is on my list.

And lastly, "excessive profiteering"...that's a bunch of crap. If its too expensive, don't buy it.

Typically most buyers don't,however there are people who get taken advantage of because they do not know better or lack the proper information to evaluate the purchase with a sound mind. Same thing as  a car dealer selling you a over priced lemon that was in a flood,and you fell for it because you lacked the ability to use Carfaqs..

Thats why it is good for members of  a community to join together and brand these resellers for what they are,to help others make better choices when at all possible. Whne the truth is exposed everyone is better off.

Whats your ebay id btw?

[rolins]

Also, if a seller really sells 15,000 items a month on eBay its totally impossible to not get some negative feedback because there are plenty of dick buyers out there. I think 100 negatives a month at that level of selling would be conservative. And then, when other buyers see that negative feedback they are much more likely to jump on the bandwagon and also leave negatives. Also, with the now almost totally automated eBay we have these days, buying things is too easy for some people. They commit to things they don't understand...

Well if the dude has any more than 10 neg a month I'm not buying from that person. I don't care if the person sell 15,000 items a month, it's no excuse to have that many unhappy customers. What I don't get is why some buyers don't bother to read the seller's feedback comments before dealing? The feedback comments is there to help buyers to steer clear away from the awful sellers. I guess alot of people are just lazy, and if feedback rating is above 95% they're still okay to buy from.

I'm saying this as someone who has been buy/sell/trading on the internet since I was using an Xband in my SNES and I've only been screwed once, about 5 months ago. (http://www.himuragames.com/).

Once I bought a joystick from a guy that was described as working. It was a SS Virtua Stick Pro modded to include PS support. When I got the stick the SS function was defective (a button was stuck down) and the PS function was non-operational. I opened the stick and from the crap workmanship in there I could see that the SS function couldn't have been working right since the PS stuff was added (sloppy soldering) so I doubt it was ever tested by anyone. I emailed him about it and he wouldn't work with me, so I fixed the stick myself, and left neutral feedback. What does this guy do? He leaves *me* neutral feedback! WTF did I do? I didn't stop payment or anything. That guy is no longer a registered eBay user and so my neutral is gone, but it does prove you can get screwed for zero reason at all.

Why would you give a neutral for item that was basically DOA? If it arrived broken you should've shoved it in their face and ask for refund.

Also, 16-bit is on this list. Isn't he like...loved by some buyers?

16-bit is cool guy along with Dream Stars Japan. Had nothing but smooth transaction from both of them, but you know what they're still guilty for being whore resellers. Take for example DSJ who buys all his goods cheap on YHJ and then resales them on ebay for higher prices. Can't even get a decent price on a loose Marty console b/c of DSJ.

[GUTS]

I can't stand those guys who buy stuff on ebay just to put it their ebay store for ridiculous prices, like that ass hat who has Might & Magic III up right now for like $400 "or best offer".  I sent him an offer of $150 saying that's $20 more than the last 3 have gone for, he countered with $300.

[16-bit]

Also, 16-bit is on this list. Isn't he like...loved by some buyers?

He probably is,however he sent Black-Tiger the ugliest Shuttlegrafx I have ever seen,doubledipped on the shipping,and sent me a Martial Champion that unlike the auction description of great condition, arrived actually in poor,with rugged case,poor condition manual with rusty staples,and a disc with several large scratches. This is why he is on my list.

Michael,
When I originally read your post last year in the thread started by Justin I searched all of my records going back to 2000 and could not find a single sale in your name.  However when I read this post today I noticed the torn check with the name "Colleen" and was able to locate the username "evil6gaming6computers6" and transaction #8179403349 for the Martial Champion you mentioned, for which you left the following positive feedback:

"A+++ seller,THANKS!!!!".

Moreover, one month later you purchased two additional games from me from the same account: L-Dis #8185733566 and Forgotten Worlds #8186988968, for which the following positive feedback was left respectively.

"no problems here,top notch seller,kills that "bullseye ripoff guy" easily!"

"yet again A+++!!!!!"

Reading over your history, I notice that you are very candid and forthright with your complaints to sellers, however I never received any indication from you at that time or anytime thereafter until nearly 19 months had passed that I had made an error. I am not challenging your assertion that an error may have been made in my grading, but I am puzzled as to why I did not receive any notice from you regarding the condition of the game at that time, but rather a positive feedback and an additional purchase 1 month later.

I have the following paragraph in my listings since 2003:
"All items are guaranteed to work for their intended system unless sold "as-is".  If the item arrives defective or is misrepresented, please contact me within 7 days of delivery.  If I can not replace the item, then a refund will be issued.   All returns must be sent by priority mail with delivery confirmation, and the sender will be refunded for the exact postage amount."

My aim is to have an open channel with buyers.  If you have any suggestion on how I can make that policy less intimidating or more accommodating, please let me know.

Justin's complaints regarding the Shuttlegrafx were well founded, and I did my best to address them immediately upon learning of the situation, which ended up not coming from him but from a message sent by you through eBay.   At the time of that transaction (Early November 2006), I was in the hospital with my wife who had an unexpected C-section with the delivery of our first daughter.  I was doing most of my business on a t-mobile sidekick and I had a huge backlog of shipments by the end of the first week.  Looking back it was incredibly naive and irresponsible to keep my ebay store open during that time since trying to catch up on orders resulted in overlooking issues such as double-checking the condition of the supergrafx prior to sending it out.  I am not making an excuse, but I am looking to apply that experience to future cases and consider temporarily closing my store since I am only a one person operation.  I will be temporarily closing my store this summer and this fall to try to mitigate chances of this occurring again 

I've made other errors in the past as well, and upon notification I have always tried to correct them as quickly as possible.  For example, another pcenginefx member Tron received a Duo-R that was DOA, he contacted me immediately sent it back and I fully refunded him and return shipping.  I have typically 10-20 returns a year and if you have a problem I am willing to work it out.  That is one of the reasons I have a 99.9% feedback percentage.

Lastly, on the issue of eBay buying and reselling, I think eBay is fair game since it really is the best real estate on the internet for buying and selling. But it is my personal belief that private fan sites such as pcenginefx are sacred and should be reserved for fans/gamers only and thus should be off-limits to frequent profit seeking—especially in the buying/selling forums.  Aaron (who owns this site?) does not need to subsidize my business.

[PCEngineHell]

Yea I purchased 3 games from you,but only Martial Champions was for me. Our paypal id has both my gfs and my name on it,and yea,I created a new ebay account after we moved and I merged the 2 accounts. The Martial Champion thing bugged me,but I switched the case,the staples,and got the cd resurfaced by a water buffer at a gamestore where I am friends with the manager. It was not such a bad thing to me back then because I could replace and refurbish stuff like cases and all,but when I saw the shuttlegrafx,then I had flashbacks and you know,it is not so likely that Black Tiger has a spare shell laying around to replace on the system,ect ect..After seeing the Shuttlegrafx I added you to my list. Also, back then I left alot more positives then I do now when something is wrong with the item. These days I put up with zilch when something bothers me on a ebay transaction.

The L-Dis and Forgotten Worlds as I said were not for me,but the person I got them for was very happy with them,so I left your feedback according to that,and the fact that your over all prices were better then Bullseye,and the items actually arrived. At that time you were the only US seller with a copy of L-Dis for sale,and my friend really wanted the game because he played my copy of it alot. I don't remember why they wanted the Forgotten Worlds game,because they already had  a US copy.I did not actually pay attention to the condition of the items or anything.

It wouldn't have mattered much either because the person who got them would have had replaced cases or had the disc resurfaced if there was damage,just like me,instead of returning them. Bulls eye prices were sky rocketing,and items never arrived from him. As for my feedback towards the Martial Champion game,like I said,I was alot more forgiving then,esp with sellers,and back then I did not like to risk a negative feedback for complaining unless it was a really major item costing alot. I tended to just save my negatives for expensive items only or items not received. Pretty much I was being choosy about picking my battles. These days I no longer do this,which is why my rating is 98.5 now as you can see.

As of now I no longer do any purchases for anyone else,just myself as it is not worth the hassle to handle deals for friends and family who wont get their own account because I have to go trough the hassle of getting the refunds and what not if something ends up going wrong in the purchase..

Oh yea,also, this feedback comment "A+++ seller,THANKS!!!!" used to be my generic feedback I left anyone for a item received. When I was really happy with the transaction you'd know it because I then leave individual messages saying exactly why I was happy with the deal,as with your case on the other 2 games being your price was lower on those games and they actually arrived compared to Bullseye who was ripping everyone off completely. I still use generic responses even today for the "average" transaction that goes ok with no real majorly massive problems, and for transactions I am more then happy with I usually throw the word "great" or "awesome" in the feedback left..

[esteban]

TANGENT

And lastly, "excessive profiteering"...that's a bunch of crap. If its too expensive, don't buy it.

"Not buying it" is only half (or less!) of what is required, unless you're just a lazy bum / don't really care. Creating and providing an alternative to the profiteers is a viable goal that many people have striven for in every facet of the economy.

There are many ways to go about this. One step, as evidenced by this thread, is to avoid folks who overprice and/or underperform.

Another option, and one that Michael practices (as well as many others) is to try to provide services to the "community" and not facilitate the profiteers. Is it possible to be 100% successful in this regard? No, but that's not the point, since any bit of effort helps.

Yet another option is to support/create alternative distribution systems. This can be as "simple" as the ability to buy/trade/sell on the pcenginefx forums. It's a lot easier to do this today than it was when I was doing mailorder, but mailorder wasn't too difficult back in the day (as long as folks inquired about the inventory on hand before ordering... if they didn't then it was annoying -- I'll admit that).

I don't have a beef with you, Zeta, since a lot of folks could have posted a comment identical to yours -- you just happen to be the first. The point I'm trying to make is that we can, and should, be striving for more -- the very least we can do is to discuss it. I don't expect everyone to care enough to do this. Nor do I expect everyone to agree with me. Nonetheless, I know that there are at least a handful of folks that share my values, and those are the folks that will help build the community.

END TANGENT

---------

As far as 16-bit is concerned: OK, I created a thread ages ago that listed him as an incredibly reliable, but PRICEY, seller. I've bought tons of stuff from him over the years. I think he should be listed as "Very reliable seller with accurate descriptions of items -- but expect to pay handsomely."

I don't want to offend you, 16-bit, but I would certainly put you in the "over-priced" category. In the past, I've explained why I bought items from you, and why I would continue to do so. Essentially, I said that I was willing to pay a "premium price" (to put it nicely), to avoid the headaches of dealing with other unproven / unreliable sellers. I was paying for your reliable service. I stand by that assessment today. That said, this is far from an ideal situation.

I'm basing my views on our transactions, none of which have been recent... so your prices may have come down, in which case I apologize in advance.

I am not looking to antagonize / argue with anyone -- I just thought it would be useful to put things into context (parasitism vs. community -- where does 16-bit stand? Clearly, I have mixed feelings about him). I have no beef with 16-bit, nor am I "best friends" with Michael (we've had our differences in the past): I am more concerned about the issues at stake, not the personalities (my own included!)

Peace

[VestCunt]

I know, I know, I'm breaking a cardinal sin in the ruthless world of business, but I would never operate a business that way. A "decent" profit is all I need, I don't need "maximum" profit.

Gee, I don't know Steve.  You're sounding kind of like Humphrey Bogart before he finds gold in the Treasure of Sierra Madre!

[esteban]

I know, I know, I'm breaking a cardinal sin in the ruthless world of business, but I would never operate a business that way. A "decent" profit is all I need, I don't need "maximum" profit.

Gee, I don't know Steve.  You're sounding kind of like Humphrey Bogart before he finds gold in the Treasure of Sierra Madre!

. I would love to find a huge cache of hard-to-find TG-16 games at a garage sale / thrift store. It's been a fantasy of mine. I've yet to find a single TG-16 game, though, not even a common one. Who knows? I might turn into a profiteer yet!

[VestCunt]

I would love to find a huge cache of hard-to-find TG-16 games at a garage sale / thrift store. It's been a fantasy of mine. I've yet to find a single TG-16 game, though, not even a common one. Who knows? I might turn into a profiteer yet!

Yep, I will never, ever , EVER become a no-good, lying, cheatin' parasite, profiteer....
.......
......
Until the day a goldmine of TG/PCE games falls into my lap!

OK, just kidding.  Sort of....
I almost became a parasite last month, actually, when I saw this BIN lot:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=002&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=120085322221&rd=1&rd=1

I probably could have resold that stuff for $600 and made a cool $400.  Any other day, I would have snagged that auction in a heartbeat.  However, it was a Saturday morning and I had $400 in my pocket that I had saved up with the intention of going to the music store and buying a new bass cabinet that very day.
I saw the auction and thought "oh shit, if I buy this I can't get my new bass cabinet!"  I somehow found the willpower to say "No Cody, it's time to stop wasting your money on video games.  Don't do this."
So I put my boots on and got ready to go to the music store.  Five minutes later, before I left, my willpower broke down.  I ran back to the computer and clicked "Buy it now".  Somehow, in the 3 seconds between clicking "Buy It Now" and clicking the "Confirm/Yes I really want to buy this" button someone else nailed it moments before me.

(For the record, I still wouldn't have resold all that stuff.  I could have replaced my Duo that's giving me problems and I didn't yet have Godzilla at that point.)

[esteban]

^^ goddam! Godzilla + DUO for $200!!! I'm never lucky enough to stumble upon auctions like that. You were so close! Arrrrrrgghhhh...

[PCEngineHell]

Yea,what I stated at the very beginning of this thread :

There are a couple of members on here that either sucked as a buyer,or as a seller,or both. There are a couple listed because of excessive profiteering off gamers too,but you will have to make  a personal judgment on wether you would want to deal with that type of person or not,or any of these people

My standards will not be the same as everyone else,and the same will hold true for who I am willing or not willing to buy from,some some people on that list will no doubt be members others are willing to buy from or sell to. Only a few on the list are members who I consider profiteers of some type who have been obviously caught doing so.

 However,the VAST majority on the list are members that either do not pay for items,are shill bidding sellers who got caught,sellers who sent completely broken items or no item at all,or members who were just extremely unpleasant to deal with overall in buying from or selling to.

[SignOfZeta]

Whats your ebay id btw?

Heh, yeah. Like I want to be on your black list.

As for the stuff Steve said, I basically agree with you. I'm pretty much an anarcho-socialist at heart, so I'm not found tooting the free market horn very often. Honestly though, when people pay too damn much for something, and then complain about it years later, I mean, WTF is that shit? If these sellers had no customers, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

I do almost all buying/trading/selling person to person unless its something brand new like Super Robot Wars W, which I bought new from NCS last week. Awesome, by the way. The "community" has served me very well over the years. However, the Community we are part of right here, the pcengine-fx.com forums, is also part of the problem. I mean, do you really think that idiots would be paying $200 for US Bonk HuCards if there wasn't so much discussion here driving the price up?

My God people, its *Bonk* for fuck's sake. Control yourself.

[Kitsunexus]

My God people, its *Bonk* for fuck's sake.

Then why do you want it so badly?

[CrackTiger]

I don't have a problem with sellers scooping up cheap deals, particularly with random lots and such, and making a decent profit. Personally, if I get a collectible for next to nothing, I usually sell it (if I ever sell it) for 1/2 - 2/3's or less the true average selling price of the item in the same condition. Usually, I'm happy making a 100% profit, even if I could've held out for 500+%.

But often cheap deals are such because they aren't listed well and I'd never find them since I don't browse much. But if a seller flips it at a fair price and I find it because its actually listed properly, and its now decribed properly and comes with a return or warrantly policy... I appreciate it.

When people try to monopolize the market by buying up everything cheap or even reasonably priced with the intent to charge the most they think can get away with, thats not cool.

Rip off prices in general aren't cool when its a seller who knows better. Like the $300 M&M III. Its a lot different when a Turbo noob lists several common Turbo games as 'vintage Turbographic tapes' for $50 each.


I think Michael's list is a good idea as a reference and overall should only be used as such (see the disclaimer). I won't boycot everyone on it, but I might ask him about his experience with a seller and check their feedback for myself before making a purchase.

There are complications that can arise with particular sellers/buyers/traders online and I like to hear about it when someone has a problem that they've tried to work out. Especially when a seller tries to solve the problem. Just as eBay feedback is a way to get an idea of potential risks when buying from a particular seller. It doesn't mean that you should never consider dealing with someone. But you can be prepared for potential issues.

Like buying something dirt cheap from a new seller on eBay. You way the pros and cons.

I've been planning on buying a particular item from 16-bit recently and as soon as I can afford it I will, if its still available.

[GUTS]

I highly doubt anyone paying $200 for Bonk got the idea from this message board, the prices for all of those USA turbo games shot WAY up back when this message board was like 5 people.  I don't know if you guys remember, but it was basically out of fucking nowhere in like 2002-3 that USA duo games started shooting through the roof for no reason whatsoever.  It was like everybody in the whole world decided to start collecting them all at the same time, before then probably less than 20 games (counting japan and USA release) broke the $100 mark.

[Kitsunexus]

But you're not getting what I'm asking here. Why $200 for BONK of all games? To the best of my knowledge, it's not rare, and while it's a good game it's certainly NOT THE BEST on the Turbo.

I could see Bonk being $50 or maybe even $70 if it had the box and manual and stuff, but $200!? Damn, that had better be the original shrinkwrap, used by a supermodel as a personal pleasure toy, and hand delivered by Jesus himself.

[esteban]

But you're not getting what I'm asking here. Why $200 for BONK of all games? To the best of my knowledge, it's not rare, and while it's a good game it's certainly NOT THE BEST on the Turbo.

I could see Bonk being $50 or maybe even $70 if it had the box and manual and stuff, but $200!? Damn, that had better be the original shrinkwrap, used by a supermodel as a personal pleasure toy, and hand delivered by Jesus himself.

Well, I don't know how rare it actually is, but the print run was low for Bonk III (not sure how the HuCard vs. CD versions faired, though I suspect more HuCards were made? Maybe not).

Of course,

[Kitsunexus]

The Bonk HuCard (which is what I'm assuming is the version we're talking about) couldn't have POSSIBLY had a low print run, it was the mascot game for the system! It was the MARIO for the Turbo! You shouldn't be able to GIVE it away!

[PCEngineHell]

Yea Bonk 3 Hu-card did have a lower print run in the USA. They were winding down production for over here at that time,and they did not have many stores to sell the stuff trough. None of the last 4-5 games released ever made it to any of the game stores in Arkansas that had originally carried Turbo stuff,and Toys R Us did not even get them either.

[SignOfZeta]

The Bonk HuCard (which is what I'm assuming is the version we're talking about) couldn't have POSSIBLY had a low print run, it was the mascot game for the system! It was the MARIO for the Turbo! You shouldn't be able to GIVE it away!

I was referring to Bonk 3, which is actually pretty hard to find. By the time it was released almost no stores were carrying TG stuff. TRU had long since given up, and the EB in my town had too. The only place I knew of to get those later games was TZD, and the Diehard I went to (which probably got them from TZD). There is no question they are "rare".

However...Bonk 3 isn't that great. No Bonk game is. $200 is just fucking stupid, especially when the JP version is so much cheaper. One of them (the CD, or the HuCard, I can't remember which) wasn't released in Japan. In that case a US-only Bonk game should be worth something, but I think paying 8x for something just because it says TG-16 on it instead of PC Engine is just super stupid.

[nat]

That's why I'm glad I snagged a copy from TZD back when it was, like, $49.99 or something. I never looked back. Although, I had no idea it would turn out to be such a rarity...  I wish I had kept the box. Back then, I didn't really think any of this stuff would be worth anything ever. 

[PCEngineHell]

Cephalgy from these forums has been added for being a complete retard and possibly one of the worst foreign biggots I have come across as of yet.

[Kitsunexus]

Cephalgy from these forums has been added for being a complete retard and possibly one of the worst foreign biggots I have come across as of yet.

Not picking sides, or trying to sound like an ass here, but that's pretty vague. If it's because of an argument to something not related to eBay/online buying, don't put him on the list, it makes the list lose it's purpose and besides, theres MANY retards you can put on that list.

If he fucked up a transaction with you, yeah you should put him on the list. But that's a double edged sword. If he refuses to ship to you, he may not be a biggot, he may just be worried about transactions and damage during shipping and stuff. I know a lot of people won't ship to the U.S. because of that. Hell some people in CANADA won't ship to the U.S. for that reason.

Anyway, while you're like an eBay guru (especially compared to me, I'm a neophyte lol) I think we need to know just a little more.  I'm not sticking up for him, I just want some concrete facts; this may be a simple misunderstanding.

[PCEngineHell]

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=2759.0

Read all that. If you can even understand half of the somewhat national socialistic,somewhat bigot,somewhat homophobic remarks laden in that thread of his by him and still desire a purchase or trade with him let me know.

[PCEngineHell]

Quotes by Cephalgy

Hi(Gh) to sKandinavia!
It`s to cold at the moment by your site? You must hush the snow to your nose ( hatschiiiiiiiiiiii ). What the vikings are drunken? Thats most pottbeer wwith 50% alcohol! Cheerz dude! Norway rulez like = Seigmen aka. Zeromancer - the best is dodt lop - disco judas and gothminister - sweden is gay and homo = Colony 5 - the cvenant - Demnmark....grrrrrrrrrrrr a town with stinky fishes! germany is the nature with lame assholes! Cheers dudes!

hahahahha too, you must heard = Asian Dub Foundation

ADF says = FUKE to ...:FUCK youR EnEmY`s! = FuKE! You Are NoT HiP My FriEnD Or NoT A FrEedOmFiGhTEr WitH A Lot Of GanJA In DiZ HeaD!

Hi(Gh),
gay is a spoken word by fucking stupid american murderz! Kuckuksclan and otehr murdering americans in arab say so bad words like GAY! HOMO is a word from jericho........read the bible: HOMO is a men she loves other mens! Americans mean HOMOS must DIE! Americans means he must kill all natures for money and stupid idiot brains!

Homo - vs. gay!

[Kitsunexus]

Put that motherfucker on the list. I have no tolerance for biggotry.

Thank you for showing me that.

[PCEngineHell]

Yea he comes off as a real jerk all around. hes on here on the sale area begging for people to trade him Turbo/Pc-Engine stuff and I mean,no one is going to,esp now. I do give him kudos though for the "stupid idiot brains " comment. It takes more guts to say that then any of the other trash he spat out on here considering how obviously childish it sounds.

[SignOfZeta]

Yes, that's all very idiotic, but I still don't see how that would make him a bad seller/buyer/trader. The fact that you specified he was a "foreign" biggot kind of indicates something about you as well.

Note to all foreigners located outside the USA:

I mean, seriously, WTF kind of phrase is that? There are like, what, 250 countries in the world, and I guess they are all suposed to answer to "foreigner"? This being an internet forum it has, IMO, no nationality. Yeah, I think that phrases like "pimped" or whatever are pretty crap, but our country is famous for two things in the rest of the world: pop culture, and warfare. If you can't deal with that then do something about it.

In fact, your Liberace-grade sig, combined with the "foreign" thing makes you an excellent candidate for your own shit list. For that matter, add me too. Also add Trip Hawkins. $100m USD for the M2? That guys a huge scammer. Also add Jess Regen from Gameroom Blitz because he's a furry and fat. Add Paul for putting his name ahead of John's in the liner notes of that White Album remix. Don't forget George Bush, and also Oscar the Grouch for just being an all around poopy pants.

Also, Bernie Stoller. That fucker.

[Kitsunexus]

..Also add Jess Regen from Gameroom Blitz because he's a furry...

Hey,  FUCK YOU PAL.

1. I don't appreciate you talking about us furries like that and
2. Jess isn't a furry, he has said so many times.
3. It's Mike's list, he can do whatever the hell he pleases. If he wants to add SignsOfZeta for being a homosexual twit with a visual kei fetish, he damn well can.

Now if you please, BACK THE FUCK OFF, or BRING IT THE FUCK ON.

[PCEngineHell]

Yes, that's all very idiotic, but I still don't see how that would make him a bad seller/buyer/trader. The fact that you specified he was a "foreign" biggot kind of indicates something about you as well.

Note to all foreigners located outside the USA:

I mean, seriously, WTF kind of phrase is that? There are like, what, 250 countries in the world, and I guess they are all suposed to answer to "foreigner"? This being an internet forum it has, IMO, no nationality. Yeah, I think that phrases like "pimped" or whatever are pretty crap, but our country is famous for two things in the rest of the world: pop culture, and warfare. If you can't deal with that then do something about it.

In fact, your Liberace-grade sig, combined with the "foreign" thing makes you an excellent candidate for your own shit list. For that matter, add me too. Also add Trip Hawkins. $100m USD for the M2? That guys a huge scammer. Also add Jess Regen from Gameroom Blitz because he's a furry and fat. Add Paul for putting his name ahead of John's in the liner notes of that White Album remix. Don't forget George Bush, and also Oscar the Grouch for just being an all around poopy pants.

Also, Bernie Stoller. That fucker.

Well,I myself would not buy from the guy because he has come out stating he pretty much hates everyone from about anywhere it seems,and he has not taken his own offer seriously by his replies. Thats why I added him. I have no problem dealing with anyone located anywhere. I don't judge anyone by their sex,race,country. Its not a big deal to me. My main concern is,is this guy going to take this deal seriously,is he going to pay,is he a complete asshole? I deal with people from all over the world,just so long as they live up to their end of said deal. None of the above mentioned should play a factor in it,but if this guy hates everyone like it seems he does and is replying in his manner then he is probably not going to be reliable on his deal he is offering as he may have ill intentions towards the person who takes him up on a  offer.

I also fail to see how my liking of the Neo-Geo and Pc-Engine could be somehow perceived as a bad thing in my sig??? Nor have you proven how it has affected my dealing with customers of mine on ebay or the net.... I also fail to see what it has to do with the entertainer Liberace and what it is they have in common.

Also,my remarks about "pimped" are justified. They are not cool terms to use anymore. Yea we created it,but its a ugly term that has been applied to too much,and I am being straight forward and honest when I say its not a cool marketing method to use it,esp over and over again. Honestly I'm not sure I see them used much anywhere anymore except when someone is overrating or over-hyping what they have done to something. The sad fact of the matter is for the past couple of years when I did see it used it did seem to be used only by people in other regions of the world. If I could have spared the world of those stupid ass terms then I would.

And any of the above mentioned people have nothing at all to do with ebay sales or net sales mentioned here. I am beginning to wonder how much of this bullshit your going to pull out of your diaper. You have added nothing to this thread in any positive light and more or less have only tried to argue with people. All your doing is trying to push off your pointless/baseless opinions that no one else seems to share with you here.

I guess that upsets you,otherwise you would not even be returning to this thread after your initial post stating how you disagreed with it in the first place.. You disagree with this thread so much you could always start your own about why you do. This way you are less distracting to the ones here who do care to use it for information and reference.

Also,not that this is a most important factor in anything but:

This being an internet forum it has, IMO, no nationality.

In a perfect world that would be the case,but that wont always apply to everything,and as this is not something that should have any deciding factor on anything here rules wise or anything at all,but I was assuming that the majority of members here are from the North American region. USA and Canada. This is not necessarily how I feel it should be,as I wish it wasn't, but it may be how it just is for all I know.

I enjoy the idea of being able to talk to others from other regions of the world more then just a bunch of people from the same region as me. That is probably one of the best features of the Guru3d forums,as it has a extremely large verity of members from EVERYWHERE.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

More important than any of Cephalgy's rants is his inaccurate product description.  I'm pretty sure that it is impossible to have a 'new factory sealed' and 'pimped' MVS board.  His incomplete and confusing responses to questions don't exactly help either.  He may as well post in German, as I'd have just as good of chance of understanding.  Cephalgy has shown plenty of warning signs that dealing with him may be a bigger risk than dealing with other sellers.

Also,my remarks about "pimped" are justified. They are not cool terms to use anymore.

I have to agree - except 'pimped' was never a cool term to use when referring to consoles.

[Seldane]

"Pimped" and any form or usage of the word "pimp" has always sucked.

[PCEngineHell]

More important than any of Cephalgy's rants is his inaccurate product description.  I'm pretty sure that it is impossible to have a 'new factory sealed' and 'pimped' MVS board.  His incomplete and confusing responses to questions don't exactly help either.  He may as well post in German, as I'd have just as good of chance of understanding.  Cephalgy has shown plenty of warning signs that dealing with him may be a bigger risk than dealing with other sellers.

Also,my remarks about "pimped" are justified. They are not cool terms to use anymore.

I have to agree - except 'pimped' was never a cool term to use when referring to consoles.

Yea he provided all of 2 pics,which could a been pulled from anywhere on the Neo forums or something similar,and it was like,no matter how much I said it I still think the guy feels its new mint ect ect... It ceased to be new upon opening and being used,and furthermore no one actually knows how long he has had it really. You can take any old 2-slot,run it trough the dish washer,then consolize it and say it was new 3 weeks ago and no one would know better.

Brand new unopened 2-slots,while there are still a slight few out there,as I saw one on ebay a month ago I think,are very very slim to find new sealed in the box. Someone finding one new like that would be more likely to sell it and with the cash buy 2 consolized 2-slot systems. There is no reason for him to keep or have installed the credit boards into  a cab too if he is not using the 2-slot in the cab,so he prob does not have them if he really even owns this thing to begin with.