VT shootings blamed on videogames. I bet you already know the name...

Kitsunexus · 04/16/2007, 06:49 PM

http://kotaku.com/gaming/virginia-tech/breaking-idiot-thompson-blames-va-shooting-on-games-252702.php

How long is this man going to be able to practice law? The mind boggles...

Turbo D · 04/16/2007, 07:21 PM

booooo

, They're going to ruin video games for the rest of us.

Seldane · 04/16/2007, 07:31 PM

Who cares? Same story every time. Why even bother talking about it?

Kitsunexus · 04/16/2007, 07:36 PM

Because I want the fucker to have a heart attack.

TR0N · 04/16/2007, 09:37 PM

As if it wasn't bad enough it was on the news all day...........

Kitsunexus · 04/16/2007, 09:49 PM

GOD, now DR. FUCKING PHIL is on Larry King Live blaming it on videogames...

TR0N · 04/16/2007, 09:54 PM

Quote from: Kitsunexus on 04/16/2007, 09:49 PMGOD, now DR. FUCKING PHIL is on Larry King Live blaming it on videogames...

The media all ways blames video games when kids are fuckup in the head.

Video games, are todays scape goat insted of looking at what's wrong in the kids head.

It's easier to point the finger at video games becuse it's so mainstream

ComicBooks>Movies>VideoGames you get the idea.

Joe Redifer · 04/16/2007, 10:11 PM

I bet the killer played at least one videogame while he was alive. The press will find this out and then suddenly videogames will get the blame. What they will miss is that the killer wiped his ass with toilet paper nearly every day of his life. I say toilet paper is to blame.

OldRover · 04/16/2007, 11:20 PM

Both Dr Phil and Jack Thompson can now be seen as cocktail party jokes for real.

TR0N · 04/16/2007, 11:23 PM

Quote from: OldRover on 04/16/2007, 11:20 PMBoth Dr Phil and Jack Thompson can now be seen as cocktail party jokes for real.

Then TakeTwo can sue them both for being idots

Hobo Xiphas · 04/16/2007, 11:57 PM

Quote from: Seldane on 04/16/2007, 07:31 PMWho cares? Same story every time. Why even bother talking about it?

guyjin · 04/17/2007, 12:07 AM

I blame Soccer.

Why? Because Soccer players are good at running and performing skillful 'shots' while 'playing' their deadly combat simulation. Nevermind that they never actually touch a gun (or anything with their hands, really); the entire thing is geared towards training future killers.

The fatasses who I see playing Half-life, Quake, and Unreal, couldn't kill me if they tried ('Safety? what's a safety?) but a soccer player...

GUTS · 04/17/2007, 02:34 AM

Don't they know absolutely nothing about the killer right now? How did it go from no one knowing anything about the killer other than he was a male earlier today to suddenly video games are the culprit?

gundarN · 04/17/2007, 02:55 AM

Really, you have to blame the assholes with guns. Not games.

termis · 04/17/2007, 03:07 AM

Quote from: gundarN on 04/17/2007, 02:55 AMReally, you have to blame the assholes with guns. Not games.

Or just assholes.

(Yes, I say that because I'm a gun owner)

gundarN · 04/17/2007, 03:18 AM

I don't want to start an argument here or anything, so please don't take this the wrong way.

I like guns, I think they're neat; but I don't think I'd ever own a real one (I have some nice plastic BB guns) as they are just too dangerous.
Why does anyone (besides the army) need them? I live in the UK (Scotland to be exact) and there is some gun crime; but not to a major extent. As you may be aware, UK police don't carry guns, so when I worked at a nuclear site, I felt pretty uneasy driving past police with machine guns; I didn't like it.

I know guys in the US and stuff like to go hunting with rifles, but surely you could give that up, if it meant less people got shot and killed?

Turbo D · 04/17/2007, 04:07 AM

I know you scottish are famous for fighting the irish, but some people like that dude who did the shooting are pussies. I don't think that a pussy should ruin it for everyone. Not that I own any guns or anything.

termis · 04/17/2007, 05:01 AM

Quote from: gundarN on 04/17/2007, 03:18 AMI don't want to start an argument here or anything, so please don't take this the wrong way.

I like guns, I think they're neat; but I don't think I'd ever own a real one (I have some nice plastic BB guns) as they are just too dangerous.
Why does anyone (besides the army) need them? I live in the UK (Scotland to be exact) and there is some gun crime; but not to a major extent. As you may be aware, UK police don't carry guns, so when I worked at a nuclear site, I felt pretty uneasy driving past police with machine guns; I didn't like it.

I know guys in the US and stuff like to go hunting with rifles, but surely you could give that up, if it meant less people got shot and killed?

I know I'm not gonna change any minds, but my point of view - it's just the principle of the matter:

Why should I, as a law abiding citizen that has never been arrested for anything, give up my right to defend my own life and property? Why should I put my own safety at the hands of others? I know many opt to do just that, but I like being control of my own safety. If someone breaks into my home, what good is calling out for help when I can't defend myself or my family because the other guy is armed (almost certainly illegally), and I'm not?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for stronger enforcement. If someone that has proven that they shouldn't own a gun is caught, or someone gets hurt because of the gun owner was negligent, let them pay HEAVILY for it, not a slap on the wrist (as is often done now).

Law-abiding gun owners shouldn't suffer because some douchebag decided to go crazy.

Quote from: turbo D on 04/17/2007, 04:07 AMI know you scottish are famous for fighting the irish, but some people like that dude who did the shooting are pussies. I don't think that a pussy should ruin it for everyone. Not that I own any guns or anything.

The Scots I know seem to have a much deeper hatred for the English than the Irish

gundarN · 04/17/2007, 08:03 AM

Quote from: thumpin_termis on 04/17/2007, 05:01 AMThe Scots I know seem to have a much deeper hatred for the English than the Irish

For sure. Not me though. Well, maybe a little.

But if no one had any guns, you wouldn't need a gun to defend yourself. You could use a big stick like I do.

Nazi NecroPhile · 04/17/2007, 11:00 AM

'I hate video games! Everything bad and evil is caused by video games! Hitler played Doom, it's not his fault!' Blah, blah, blah - just another jack ass with an ax to grind. The question is - why did Fox 'News' allow this scum bag any airtime? Blame for this tragedy can be placed in this order: 1) the trigger man or possibly men; 2) the criminal gun seller; 3) the university for inadequate security and for not taking appropriate action after the first shots were fired. Some will disagree with me, but they're wrong.

Kitsunexus · 04/17/2007, 11:09 AM

Quote from: guest on 04/17/2007, 11:00 AMThe question is - why did Fox 'News' allow this scum bag any airtime?

Because calling Fox News a serious news station with professional journalists is like calling dog shit filet mignon.

GUTS · 04/17/2007, 03:12 PM

I'd love to see the statistics of gun owners who "defended themselves and their property" compared the statistics of gun owners who were killed by their own weapons. I've never ONCE heard of someone fending off some burglar or whatever with a gun.

gundarN · 04/17/2007, 03:23 PM

Quote from: GUTS on 04/17/2007, 03:12 PMI've never ONCE heard of someone fending off some burglar or whatever with a gun.

Strangely enough, it happened here in the UK. It was a guy in his 60's on a farm, he'd been burgled a few times and this time he shot one of them with his shotgun (being a farmer, he would have had a license).
The dude got a few years in jail for it.

How can you defend a burgling scumbag?
It appears that you are supposed to stay out of sight and let them rob you. You can get charged even when you only beat the shit out of them.

Nazi NecroPhile · 04/17/2007, 03:36 PM

http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_098095821.html

Here's a recent story of self-preservation for you GUTS. I'm not going to argue that gun ownership will lead to greater safety though, as I'm a firm believer that many dumb fucks also own guns.

Hobo Xiphas · 04/17/2007, 06:33 PM

This thread is a trainwreck of seriousness.

I think you all need some ISHMAIL AX

termis · 04/17/2007, 06:33 PM

Statistics can be used to prove anything. As they say, there are liars, damn liars, and statisticians.

Stats say that a gun is more likely to be a source of an accident than being used for defense. But stats also say that a someone with a gun is much more likely to survive the outcome of a robbery (and that includes not resisting against the assailant). Stats also prove that robberies are higher in areas where gun ownership is tightly controlled or illegal.

I can't control what others do with their guns. I can only control what I do, and as long as I don't hurt anyone else with my gun, I shouldn't be presumed guilty.

Once again, I know I'm not going to change any minds. There are many gray areas in life, and this is certainly one of them. It's just that a blanket condemnation of all guns/gunowners because of a few nuts is down right wrong.

Hell, even in places Japan, considered a ultra-safe place by most, had some nut go in to an elementary school and stab 22 people (and killing 8 1st/2nd grade kids) with a kitchen knife.

Hobo Xiphas · 04/17/2007, 06:35 PM

I think we should ban knives

Seldane · 04/17/2007, 07:00 PM

I've already banned knives, but people are still using them so don't go blaming me for the usage of knives by people!

Joe Redifer · 04/17/2007, 09:03 PM

I think that someone may have already pointed this out, but people who use guns for criminal intent aren't likely to have gotten their guns through legal means in the first place. But firearms will never be banned here. There are also laws that allow you to kill someone who has invaded your property if you feel your life is in danger (doesn't have to be with a gun). That's a good thing if you ask me.

PCEngineHell · 04/17/2007, 09:53 PM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/17/2007, 09:03 PMI think that someone may have already pointed this out, but people who use guns for criminal intent aren't likely to have gotten their guns through legal means in the first place. But firearms will never be banned here. There are also laws that allow you to kill someone who has invaded your property if you feel your life is in danger (doesn't have to be with a gun). That's a good thing if you ask me.

Agreed. I have a 12 gage here,its put up in the closet and I dont think we even have any shells here. It was purchased long ago when living in North Little Rock for home protection after my mom was robbed in her home at gun point. The person was caught that day,but ever since then I felt easier living in that city with something that could cut two people in half with one shot up close. These days I do not keep any shells in the house,which is why it sin the closet. This is because where I live at now crime is almost zilch. Banning firearms will not keep guns from criminals. They have too large a underground consumer buy and sell rate now,and plenty to last supply and demand for years upon years.

Kitsunexus · 04/17/2007, 10:08 PM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 04/17/2007, 09:03 PMI think that someone may have already pointed this out, but people who use guns for criminal intent aren't likely to have gotten their guns through legal means in the first place.

In this case, he got his guns legally, he even registered them, he just filed the numbers off so they'd have a hard time tracking him.

Nazi NecroPhile · 04/18/2007, 11:12 AM

All I know is that guns don't kill people - I kill people, raise the dead, and then make them perform my unholy biddings. Muwahahahaha!

gundarN · 04/18/2007, 12:57 PM

Quote from: Seldane on 04/17/2007, 07:00 PMI've already banned knives, but people are still using them so don't go blaming me for the usage of knives by people!

I've done the same. I use a spoon to spread my butter.

GUTS · 04/18/2007, 03:40 PM

I don't have a problem with guns, I love shooting my brother's small arsenal once in a while, but with how fucked up our society is now and how guns are so glorified in the media it just doesn't seem logical to let people own them anymore. Look at how the rest of the world views us americans- a bunch of fat, rude, gun carrying idiots- in my opinion it would be a good thing if at least hand guns were banned, even though I know it's never going to happen.

Dark Fact · 04/19/2007, 08:08 PM

First of all, I have to extend my condolences to all 30+ students who were gunned down at Virginia Tech. The sheer audacity of this crime is absolutely incredible and despicable.

As for gun control, the U.S. won't ban guns...ever. As long as the Second Amendment protects people with the right to bear arms, people will continue to bear arms.

But here is where the real debate lies: should there be a stricter approach to obtaining firearms?

Personally, I think there should. Up here in Canada, it is legal to own firearms but it's not as easy to get one as it is in the states. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but in the States, getting a gun just involves going to your local gun store, fill out a registration form, perform a check on your background, pay, and you finally get it. In Canada, there is a good 6 months to a year registration process that involves registering your firearm to the government including providing all credentials, background checks, affidavits, the whole enchilada. That way, the government can keep tabs on who owns firearms. Sure, there are flaws in the system like the possibility of getting your gun stolen and not knowing what became of it but gun crime up here is pretty few and far in between. The majority of killings where I live usually occur by way of stabbing with kitchen knives or beaning with baseball bats.

Maybe the government ought to install traceable devices in guns to make them easier to track should they get stolen or something.

Just my opinion though...

GUTS · 04/19/2007, 08:47 PM

They should also make you get a psychological profile before you can buy a gun, that would weed out a lot of fucking retards.

Hobo Xiphas · 04/19/2007, 09:37 PM

Quote from: Dark Fact on 04/19/2007, 08:08 PMPersonally, I think there should. Up here in Canada, it is legal to own firearms but it's not as easy to get one as it is in the states. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but in the States, getting a gun just involves going to your local gun store, fill out a registration form, perform a check on your background, pay, and you finally get it.

It depends on the state, but that is the general situation, yes. Some states have stuff like waiting periods, purchasing limits, or they require a special ID to buy guns.

Quote from: Dark Fact on 04/19/2007, 08:08 PMThat way, the government can keep tabs on who owns firearms.

Partially implemented in a few states. To be honest, tracking isn't very effective as once the gun reaches the secondary market it really isn't tracked at all.

Quote from: Dark Fact on 04/19/2007, 08:08 PMMaybe the government ought to install traceable devices in guns to make them easier to track should they get stolen or something.

This will never, ever, ever be implemented in the United States. To even suggest something like this would be political suicide in most states.

Quote from: GUTS on 04/19/2007, 08:47 PMThey should also make you get a psychological profile before you can buy a gun, that would weed out a lot of fucking retards.

It's called a background check? They do check things like that! They also ask you hilarious questions on the paperwork when you buy a gun asking if you have ever been committed to a mental institution or if you have ever renounced your US citizenship (the Lee Harvey Oswald clause).

Of course, there is nothing stopping you from lying on the form.

termis · 04/19/2007, 10:53 PM

Quote from: GUTS on 04/19/2007, 08:47 PMThey should also make you get a psychological profile before you can buy a gun, that would weed out a lot of fucking retards.

That I wouldn't mind. The background check will uncover those with a criminal background, but it won't uncover those with mental problems unless they had something really serious enough for involuntary confinement (like ㅁ suicide attempt). Those with issues, but not "serious" enough for immediate lockup, will pass right through the background check, like that douchebag.

That's not to say that these people won't get theirs illegally, but as I said before, stronger/stricter enforcement of existing laws is what's needed for illegal trade of guns.

Kitsunexus · 04/19/2007, 11:13 PM

It isn't cost effective NOR feasible to have a psychiatrist at every gun store.

Kitsunexus · 04/19/2007, 11:33 PM

OMFG THIS IS INSANITY....

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/today-in-insanity-jack-thompson-blames-bill-gates-for-vt-shooting-253797.php

Hobo Xiphas · 04/19/2007, 11:52 PM

The best way to discredit a troll is by not paying attention to him.

Kitsunexus · 04/19/2007, 11:55 PM

Well sorry, I thought I was being relevant and informative.

termis · 04/20/2007, 12:04 AM

Quote from: Kitsunexus on 04/19/2007, 11:13 PMIt isn't cost effective NOR feasible to have a psychiatrist at every gun store.

A through psychological evaluation is already a part of the background check that a lot of countries already require. If it works for them, why not the U.S.? Sure it's not perfect, but the alternative is worse, as we found out.

Quote from: Kitsunexus on 04/19/2007, 11:33 PMOMFG THIS IS INSANITY....

Yeah, that was beyond absurd. To the point where I think it's literally a joke by someone.

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