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Started by offsidewing, 05/07/2007, 12:36 PM

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I give you the one hypothetical situation that spawned countless nerd fights in my high school physics class all those many years ago.  Who would win in a fight between a Grizzly bear and a silverback gorilla:

A Grizzly Bear
8 (53.3%)
A Silverback Gorilla
7 (46.7%)

Total Members Voted: 13

Voting closed: 05/17/2007, 12:36 PM

offsidewing

Don't turn this into a "who can be the biggest smart@$$" contest pointing out flaws in a hypothetical situation.  Just concentrate on who would win if they ever got to duke it out, to the death!

Tell me why you think so...

Nazi NecroPhile

Duh, Silverbacks FTMFW!!!  Grizzly bears have yucky, matted, shit brown fur.  Silverback gorillas have black, grey, and white fur.  Any animal with fur resembling the color scheme of Turbo hardware would obviously win.  :)

Of course, grizzly bears weigh between 500 and 1500 pounds while gorillas weigh between 300 and 400 pounds.  So I'm guessing that whichever beast is the hungriest will get the win, but the silverback will need to bring his 'A' game (and a bat).

PS - You bunch of nerds really needed to get laid.  Why didn't you go down to the zoo one night, let some animals loose, and finally settle the debate?
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offsidewing

#2
I don't deny my nerd-ness in high school, or even to this day.  However, I did have a highly developed social life in addition to some athletic talent.

Ironically in the college years that followed, being good at mathematics and physical science got me laid way more than my charm or being a 'student' athlete.

Thank god I have my nerd-ness to fall back on.  3 knee surgeries, one rebuilt ankle, and one helluva beer gut later, I'd be selling snow cones in Yellow Knife if I wasn't the least bit intelligent.  STAY IN SCHOOL.

GORILLA.  It has opposable thumbs.  Four of them.  I'd like to see a bear hold a baseball bat.

Keranu

I'm pretty sure a gorilla would pound any bear to part. Speaking of animal fights, there are some cool ones on YouTube. My favorite is the jaguar vs crocodile which results in an amazingly surprising defeat.
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Seldane

I don't understand the question, the poll, the post, the entire thread, the world, what PC Engine is, how I am posting on the internet, or anything else either, for that matter. I'm completely and utterly clueless in every aspect of the universe.
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PCEngineHell

I'm all for the grizzly bear.Adult males weigh around 1000-1500 pounds,and even at that size have a top running speed of 35mph,along with razor sharp 2-4 inch claws,and extremely sharp teeth. The blow for blow swiping speed between the bear and the gorilla would about be even,but it wont matter much because most of the swipes the bear inflicts will cut the gorilla to pieces if the bear means business. The bear not only has the upper hand in weight,but also in standing height. They typically stand at 6 1/2-7 feet.
The adult male silverback only gets to be on average 5 1/2 feet all out standing height,and a top weight of around 400-450 pounds. In a tackling wrestling for dear life deathmatch the bear would easily win. It has all the requirements, the speed,size,and height needed to overpower a silverback gorilla.

PCEngineHell

Quote from: Keranu on 05/07/2007, 03:15 PMI'm pretty sure a gorilla would pound any bear to part. Speaking of animal fights, there are some cool ones on YouTube. My favorite is the jaguar vs crocodile which results in an amazingly surprising defeat.
You have to remember,bears practice all day long at punching and swiping at enemies. They do so by knocking fish out of the water. That requires a faster movement then the gorilla can trow a punch sometimes. Bears may look fat and slow,but they are very fast and have  a very fast killing swipe. Grizzly bears have been known to take on entire packs of gray wolves for food because they lack fear,desire food more,and have the speed and size needed to do so.

offsidewing

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Are Grizzly bear claws sharp?  They are used for digging and are shaped like trowels.  Giant trowels.  Most of the bears mass is designed for digging as bears are foragers, like gorillas.  I've seen Bears pounce on prey or snap at it with powerful jaws, never seen a Bear take a swipe at a salmon if it had sharp claws.  That would be so much easier.

I would crap my pants and turtle like you wouldn't believe if either species (or sub-speices for the Grizzly) got anywhere near me.  My money's on the Gorilla for the sheer fact it can hold two Avenue Pad 6's at the same time!

CrackTiger

A grizzly bear of course. As long as it actually chose to fight all out instead of just trying to scare off the gorilla or ran away after getting spooked by the gorilla itself. A grizzly could kill the gorilla in a single swipe.
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PCEngineHell

Quote from: offsidewing on 05/07/2007, 05:30 PMAre Grizzly bear claws sharp?  They are used for digging and are shaped like trowels.  Giant trowels.  Most of the bears mass is designed for digging as bears are foragers, like gorillas.  I've seen Bears pounce on prey or snap at it with powerful jaws, never seen a Bear take a swipe at a salmon if it had sharp claws.  That would be so much easier.

I would crap my pants and turtle like you wouldn't believe if either species (or sub-speices for the Grizzly) got anywhere near me.  My money's on the Gorilla for the sheer fact it can hold two Avenue Pad 6's at the same time!
Yes,their claws are razor sharp.They do dig alot,true,but their claws come out long and curved,and tend to stay sharp regardless.
See the bear beat the wolves. Grizzly Bears rarely lose fights ever.
http://www.bearplanet.org/grizzlybear.shtml

ParanoiaDragon

I deffinitly lean towards the gorrilla, if purely for having greater intelligence then a grizzly bear.  Have there been any studies on said animals, on how smart they are?
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PCEngineHell

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Yea,Timothy Treadwell studied grizzlies,he figured out they were smart enough to kill his crazy ass. Both animals are smart in their own right,but they tend to behave very differently because of the survival requirements in their regions of the world. The grizzly because of his tends to have to be a proficient killer because he has to eat alot before the harsh winters set in.

This basically amps up his predator mode into high gear,as the above stupid as hell Timothy Treadwell had learned. The grizzly is a born killer and kills for whatever reason,food,if attacked,whatever,the gorilla will kill if it has to if it is attacked or to get the females and become the head of its group,but it typically is a bluffer and does not kill for food as it is a vegetarian. The bear tends to not bluff,it tends to just kill and eat you if it feels like its worth the effort.

Keranu

Timothy Treadwell's documentary was hilarious. He just thought he could live with a pack of vicious, hungry bears without any problems at all. I'm still hoping they release the audio that was recorded from the killings.
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Joe Redifer

Where is the "Who the **** cares?" option in the poll?

Keranu

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 05/08/2007, 12:55 AMWhere is the "Who the **** cares?" option in the poll?
I think this is a very important poll and if you are ignorant enough to not care, then you shouldn't have even posted.
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Turbo D

I think that the gorilla would probably win because it is most likely smarter and could probably use a weapon. It would have to be quick and strategic though as the grizzly is very strong. Since grizzlys tend to stand up and growl, they become vulnerable to a quick move. The gorilla would have to use this quick time frame to make a stunning move and then finish the bear off. But if he failed and got to close, the bear would obviously have him for breakfast, haha.

I honestly think that that jaguar from that youtube video keranu posted could probably take out both grizzly and gorilla. The jaguar has both intelligence and insane speed/reflexes. But the jaguar ain't a contender, haha.
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gundarN

Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 05/07/2007, 09:15 PMI deffinitly lean towards the gorrilla, if purely for having greater intelligence then a grizzly bear.
I dunno, they've been known to eat their own shit at times...

Kitsunexus

I vote for the H&K MP7-equipped cybernetic kangaroo.

Thread over.
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Joe Redifer

I want to know why anyone would care.  Gorillas are lame.  So are bears.  A better poll would have been "Who would win, a Sabertooth Tiger or Jean Claude Van Damme"

Keranu

To make Paul happy, how about a Tyrannosaurus Rex vs Patrick Swazye? Once again, I think Patrick would win by simply sitting still.
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offsidewing

How about:

Flying shark versus Flying Crocodile.  In a battle where there can be no winner, who will win?!?!

We could refine the original poll a little more.

Whinney the Pooh armed with the RCP-90 and Farsight, or Curious George armed with the Gravity Gun and a light saber.

Keranu

Curious George would slaughter Winnie the Pooh.
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Kitsunexus

Mew armed with the original Unreal Tournament rocket launcher.

GAME OVER.
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Keranu

The cool smoking log from Splash Lake vs the universe. Anyone who votes anything besides that log will be terminated.
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offsidewing


Kitsunexus

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Keranu

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offsidewing

Tell me the Steak Sauce is simply called "Hurricane Ditka."   [-o<

JoshTurboTrollX

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Gorrilla's rule beside they get there own video games  :P

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Turbo D

Quote from: turbo_sage on 05/10/2007, 12:52 AMwhat do you get when you cross an owl with a bungee cord?
My Ass!  :lol:
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Hobo Xiphas

Quote from: PCEngineHell on 05/07/2007, 05:20 PMYou have to remember,bears practice all day long at punching and swiping at enemies.
This is why Da Bears will win.

If by some weird twist of fate reincarnation is real, I hope that some day I could become a bear so that I could spend all day practicing punching and swiping and enemies.  That would be the life!  8)

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