Turbo Everdrive V2 does not work in my US Turbo

[MotherGunner]

This sucks.  Hopefully Krikzz will address this once he's back from vacation.

Yea, when his happy ass is done spending all yall's money!

[SephirothTNH]

^ this.  He never worried about fixing the v1 with region modded systems so I wouldn't hold my breath.  It's going to be up to the community to try and find a fix. 

The only thing krikzz could probably do is fix it in later revisions.

[Keith Courage]

Quick fix. Sell off or return your versions 2 everdrives and get version 1 everdrives instead.

[NightWolve]

Heh.

[SephirothTNH]

Quick fix. Sell off or return your versions 2 everdrives and get version 1 everdrives instead.

No need.  It works great on my duo which once I recap it will become my primary system to OBEY.

[DeshDildo]

Quick fix. Sell off or return your versions 2 everdrives and get version 1 everdrives instead.

This.  I already regret "upgrading" to V2.

[cjameslv]

Well so far no issues, tested it on my modded tg-16, us duo & pc duo. Same rom set i had for v1.1 besides adding the new folder to core, rest is the same and everything is working properly.

[NightWolve]

Aaaah, so that's the trick to it! Should've known...

[jtucci31]

Well so far no issues, tested it on my modded tg-16, us duo & pc duo. Same rom set i had for v1.1 besides adding the new folder to core, rest is the same and everything is working properly.

Resolution:  Proper operation of TED v2 requires a fully charged crystal.

Do I hear a need for a JO Crystal Group Buy?

[esteban]

Anyone who charges with me at the local Howard Johnson's gets a free crystal*.



*while supplies last

[SephirothTNH]

I'm a big HoJo fan.

[sirhcman]

Do I hear a need for a JO Crystal Group Buy?

I need a GB and N64 Everdrive, stat!

[esteban]

I'm a big HoJo fan.

CRYSTAL JO + HoJo = gaming bliss

[elmer]

I've just tested my 3 TED2-wth-usb carts ... I'm very happy to say that they weren't DOA, but the results were mixed.

Core Grafx II                         Works
Super Grafx                           Works

Core Grafx II + SuperCDROM            Fails
(using SuperCDROM power pass-trough)

Core Grafx II + SuperCDROM            Fails
(using separate power supplies)

Super Grafx + SuperCDROM              Works
(using separate power supplies)

I tried a few different combinations of my 2 Core Grafx II, 2 Super Grafx, and 2 SuperCDROMs.

After seeing the Core Grafx II + SuperCDROM fail, I was really quite surprised to see the Super Grafx + SuperCDROM work.

I'm really clutching-at-straws to come up with an explanation for this!

I know that there were 2 different versions of the HuC6280 CPU ... do we know which console variants used which versions of the CPU?

I didn't have time to try a System Card 3 image on the TED2 yet ... but I'm going to try that later, since it's pretty much my reason for buying the TED2.

BTW ... Has anyone else tried running the TED2 with a SuperCDROM yet?

[elmer]

SuperGrafx and CoreGrafx came with HuC6280a.  All other variants (including CoreGrafxII) had HuC6280.

So the 2 units that I tested had different CPU revisions.

I've absolutely no idea if that really makes any difference, but it makes me wish that I had a blue CoreGrafx to test with the SuperCDROM.

Not that it would probably tell us much ... but it might help krikzz narrow down what it is that he needs to fix in the next revision of the TED2.

It'll be interesting to see how he handles this with the people that want to return their TED2.

[elmer]

I have 0 horses in this race, but it also seems based on your & lostmonkey's tests that issues arise whenever RF is disabled/bypassed or the expansion port is used for A/V out.

I'm reminded of the Champions Forever boxing game that had two revisions... the first of which would have garbled audio via RF, the second of which would work correctly via RF or A/V.  Kind of the opposite situation as TED2, but RF is still the variable.

When I try a CD System Card image, I can certainly do some more testing to see if A/V mods either do or do-not make a difference (for me, at least).

I have RGB mods in one of the Super Grafx and one of the SuperCDROMs, but the other one of each is unmodified.

In my testing ... I always used the regular console's composite A/V out, and not the SuperCDROM's composite A/V out.

As you know, RF isn't even an option on the Core Grafx II and the Super Grafx.

[DeshDildo]

NightWolve was so awesome to give me a great rom package.  With these roms I tested the same games as yesterday as well as a few more.

It turns out I may have had a few glitch roms as now everything I've tried loads on my TG16 (although the same games that wouldn't load yesterday on my TG DID load on my DUO).  Anyways, I've put some time into a few games and they all ended with crashes.  The only game that didn't crash (out of what I tested) was R-Type. 

It seems like even for those of us who get the TED to run on a Turbografx it is still very unreliable.  If I didn't have a Duo I would be trying to trade this thing back in for a V1.  I had zero issues with V1.  Why was I a dumb ass and had to have the latest and "greatest"?

[elmer]

For those that don't read the forum on krikzz's site, he's confirmed that he's repeated the problem that people are seeing, and that he's going to be working on a fix.

But since he's talking about being pretty sure that he'll either have to reprogram the FPGA or change the hardware design ... I'm not sure exactly where that leaves everyone here that's having problems.

It was interesting to hear that he didn't test the TED2 on a TG16 before release.

http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=3239.msg31048#msg31048

[NightWolve]

Ah, so the plot thickens... Well, you know, shit happens.. He's still a very talented and impressive individual beyond comparison!

[SephirothTNH]

It's good to know he's looking into it.  If it ends up needing to be sent back or exchanged though I'll just cut my losses.  I have no complaints about how it works on my Duo.

[Duo_R]

Krikzz is good about taking care of this stuff. It sucks to send back but he will take care of it

[LostFlunky]

Krikzz is good about taking care of this stuff. It sucks to send back but he will take care of it

Maybe he is good for stuff like this, but we are talking about every single TEDv2 that he has shipped to date having compatibility issues with a large percentage of the worldwide installed hardware base. 

Any that don't get refurbed now are just going to cause issues for someone else when they hit the "used" market down the road.

[DeshDildo]

Krikzz is good about taking care of this stuff. It sucks to send back but he will take care of it

I have a hard time believing in this 100%.  If Krikzz was really worried about compatibility issues with V2 why hasn't he pulled it off the site until a fix is found?  If he is planning to help customer's who have already purchased a V2, it seems like he would only be making a lot more work for himself by continuing to sell V2.  They are still selling V1 ' s on there so people not completely in the know about the issues can still buy a TED if they wanted to.

[Duo_R]

This is the first time a Everdrive revision took a step back on compatability (to my knowledge).

Is revision 1 still available  to exchange for? Rev 1 was solid.

[sirhcman]

Krikzz is good about taking care of this stuff. It sucks to send back but he will take care of it

I have a hard time believing in this 100%.  If Krikzz was really worried about compatibility issues with V2 why hasn't he pulled it off the site until a fix is found?  If he is planning to help customer's who have already purchased a V2, it seems like he would only be making a lot more work for himself by continuing to sell V2.  They are still selling V1 ' s on there so people not completely in the know about the issues can still buy a TED if they wanted to.

Desh he must have found more of the version 1 because I was looking on Wednesday and he only had the 2nd available for sale in his store. At least he still has the option available for people if they don't want to be beta testers for the version 2

[SmokeMonster]

I posted this in another thread: I received a response from Krikzz about the v2.2 fiasco today and he has a fix ready but we'll have to return our v2.2s to him to have the FPGA re-flashed. If you need this update, send your TEDs back to him using this form: http://krikzz.com/return_form.txt

[elmer]

I posted this in another thread: I received a response from Krikzz about the v2.2 fiasco today and he has a fix ready but we'll have to return our v2.2s to him to have the FPGA re-flashed. If you need this update, send your TEDs back to him using this form: http://krikzz.com/return_form.txt

He's finally confirmed that a fix now exists on his own forum ...

http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=3287.msg31386#msg31386

Looks like there's going to be a new revision 2.3 board, and that anyone can request a replacement.

It's good to see that he's looking after his customers.

[Duo_R]

yeah Krikzz takes care of his customers

[LostFlunky]

I  pm'd him for instructions on returning mine...

[780racer]

So I know this is off topic... Kind of, but I have a US DUO that is region modded, and from what I have read/been reading I cannot get an ED unless I un-mod the system or wait for a revision that can handle the mod, and its because of the power differences form having the mod Vs not, Correct? (Im not the most knowledgable but Im trying to understand)

Sorry to thread jack, just wanted to clarify.

[SephirothTNH]

It's mostly a crapshoot.  It may work for you it may not.  Unless the latest revision has fixed things that is.

[thesteve]

we have been having issues with some modded systems and the VER2
it doesnt matter if we redo the mod, and the issue follows the system, not the mod if we swap things around
not sure why it effects some systems and not others

[780racer]

Weeellll

I was really wanting to get one, but dont feel like wasting 80 bucks on a crapshoot atm. Would rather just get a few good commons that I know will work.


Here is to hoping that they soon fix it so I can buy one *Fingers crossed*

[Keith Courage]

just find a place selling old stock of the version one everdrive.

http://shop.krikzz.com/Turbo-EverDrive-v1-Old-stock-TBEDV1.htm

[108 Stars]

I've been looking to get an Everdrive too, but I am worried since my PCE Duo is region modded. Can you tell if it will work by knowing who modded it? My Duo is from doujindance, who afaik is a well-known and respected modder. Anybody have experiences with region modded Duos from him and TEDs?

[mickcris]

my ED v2 doesnt work on my duojindance modded duo-r.  I got it a couple years ago though so I dont know if hes using the same mod now.  I have heard other people reporting the same thing about them not working on theirs modded by him too though.
http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=3279.0

[108 Stars]

Thanks for the reply. Hmh, that means that the best chance would be to try a TED v1. Still kind of a big risk for the price...

[mickcris]

the v1 should work fine.  i had no issues using a v1 on my duojindance duo-r

[wilykat]

Generally if the region mod is done via a big ass switch and about 24 wires, it is 100% compatible with all Turbo ED.  If it uses switch to control electronic switch IC or uses button to toggle mode on power on, it's crap shoot.  You can improve the compatibility by making sure the IC are powered directly off the 5v pin of 7805 regulator chip (no idea what Turbo Express or GT uses) but it's still crap shoot.

[780racer]

I just purchased my V1 Everdrive about 2 weeks ago. Ill report back if it works on my Modded duo with the "Region mod with the big ass switch". 

I hope it works, and if not I may have a V1 for sale soon, haha

[gheebee]

This thread had me worried because I saw it after I ordered my Turbo Everdrive V2 but it showed up today and worked great when I tested it on two unmodded US TG16 systems and a region modded Core Grafx. What a relief! I just noticed that mine is v2.1 and not v2.2 like the picture on the site, so I guess I got lucky or something.

[bozo55]

This thread had me worried because I saw it after I ordered my Turbo Everdrive V2 but it showed up today and worked great when I tested it on two unmodded US TG16 systems and a region modded Core Grafx. What a relief! I just noticed that mine is v2.1 and not v2.2 like the picture on the site, so I guess I got lucky or something.

2.1 will work as long as nothing is connected to the expansion port.  2.3 should work in all situations.

[gheebee]

2.1 will work as long as nothing is connected to the expansion port.  2.3 should work in all situations.

Both of the TG16 consoles were hooked up through the expansion port with a 3rd party adapter. This is actually the only way I have of hooking them up to the TV right now.

[bozo55]

2.1 will work as long as nothing is connected to the expansion port.  2.3 should work in all situations.

Both of the TG16 consoles were hooked up through the expansion port with a 3rd party adapter. This is actually the only way I have of hooking them up to the TV right now.

interesting, which 3rd party adapter is that? From what I understand, TurboBoosters and CD-ROM attachments cause instability.

[mickcris]

he may be meaning one of these:
http://www.cgquarterly.com/2010/04/26/building-a-turbografx-16-pc-engine-composite-av-cable/

that would be consuming no power so should be fine

[gheebee]

interesting, which 3rd party adapter is that? From what I understand, TurboBoosters and CD-ROM attachments cause instability.

I got this one, it's probably the same thing as the link mickcris posted but just in an enclosure. Thought for sure this wasn't going to work but so far so good and it is just about time to play with it some more. :]

[KnightWarrior]

You paid to much for it on ebay

[cjameslv]

I got this one, it's probably the same thing as the link mickcris posted but just in an enclosure. Thought for sure this wasn't going to work but so far so good and it is just about time to play with it some more. :]

LOL!! i love how the auction states "NEW COLORS AVAILABLE!! NO EXTRA CHARGE! RED/WHITE/GREEN/BLUE/YELLOW and BLACK!!" Wahahahahahahaha thank god he figured out they make other color electrical tape besides black and he wont even charge extra to wrap it in a different color. 

[gheebee]

I'm just glad I have something I can use to hook the system up. When first dug out all the old consoles I only had RF and it stopped working after not very long. I was looking for a booster when I found that but the booster would have cost a lot more and I didn't want to spend any money on another RF adapter. My only complaint about the device is that with it I can't put the back of the system on when using it.

[cjameslv]

I'm just glad I have something I can use to hook the system up. When first dug out all the old consoles I only had RF and it stopped working after not very long. I was looking for a booster when I found that but the booster would have cost a lot more and I didn't want to spend any money on another RF adapter. My only complaint about the device is that with it I can't put the back of the system on when using it.

Ya ill agree there, anything is better than rf!