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What are the best Master System titles?

Started by PCEngineHell, 09/01/2015, 02:06 PM

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PCEngineHell

Shoot me some names. Basically anything that works fine on a ntsc setup. I have a pal switch installed but prefer to stick with titles that can work in ntsc.

DragonmasterDan

Phantasy Star
Govellius
Alex Kidd in Miracle World
Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic the Hedgehog 2


If you have the 3D glasses, a CRT TV and a light phaser
Missile Defense 3D
--DragonmasterDan

CrackTiger

Phantasy Star
Miracle Warriors
Ultima IV
Golvellius
Wonderboy
Monsterland
Wonderboy III
Monster World
Spellcaster
Lord of the Sword
Kenseiden
Shinobi
Rastan
Alex Kidd in Miracle World
Aleste/Power Strike and Power Strike II
Bubble Bobble
Rainbow Islands
Penguin Land
Asterix series
Mickey Mouse Illusion series
Donald Duck Lucky Dime Caper
Ninja Gaiden
Fantasy Zone II
Sagaia
R-Type
Scramble Spirits
Bomber Raid
Golden Axe Warrior
Psycho Fox
Streets of Rage games
Sonic 1 and 2
Aladdin
Micro Machines
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

CGQuarterly

It has, in my opinion, the best version of Choplifter.

Arkhan Asylum

Cyborg Hunter, Ninja (Ninja Princess rehash basically).

Zillion 1 and 2.

This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

BigusSchmuck

Quote from: CGQuarterly on 09/01/2015, 03:13 PMIt has, in my opinion, the best version of Choplifter.
I agree 100%.
Some titles I enjoyed on the Master System:
Wonderboy games
Phantasy Star
Bubble Bobble
Asterisk and Obelix
Zillion
Ultima 4 (best console version)
Spy vs Spy
Rampage
Double Dragon (flicker and all)

Lots of games, too many to list :)

Arkhan Asylum

someone should point this out.

Ultima 4 is fucking expensive and was only released in Europe, and it also ditches the first person dungeons, so that sucks.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

o.pwuaioc

Just going to release my list:

Bomber Raid
Choplifter
Enduro Racer
Global Defense
Golden Axe Warrior
Line of Fire
Kenseiden
Castle of Illusion (Mickey Mouse)
Land of Illusion (Mickey Mouse)
Legend of Illusion (Mickey Mouse) [Skip these three if you didn't like or weren't overly excited by the Genesis games.]
Ninja Gaiden
Paperboy [Best version of this game on a console.]
Penguin Land
Phantasy Star
Power Strike
Power Strike II
Psycho Fox
Quartet
Scramble Spirits
Shinobi
Sonic Chaos
Sonic the Hedgehog
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Thunder Blade
Wonder Boy in Dragon’s Trap
Zillion

A number of these, and others on other people's lists, are actually PAL games that were just capable of running on a NTSC system. Sonic the Hedgehog comes to mind. The only difference was the box (US had a sticker), otherwise the game is the same and was optimized for PAL consoles, not US ones.

BigusSchmuck

Quote from: guest on 09/01/2015, 03:27 PMsomeone should point this out.

Ultima 4 is fucking expensive and was only released in Europe, and it also ditches the first person dungeons, so that sucks.
Forgot about that bit. lol Still, better than the NES version..

Gentlegamer

Quote from: PCEngineHell on 09/01/2015, 02:06 PMShoot me some names. Basically anything that works fine on a ntsc setup. I have a pal switch installed but prefer to stick with titles that can work in ntsc.
Every game designed in Japan, even if only released in PAL territories, is tuned for NTSC without any problem.
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Quote from: VenomMacbeth on 10/25/2015, 02:35 PMGentle with games, rough with collectards.  Riders gon riiiiide.

PCEngineHell

What games are Pal specific then, that do not run, or run well in NTSC, like run to fast or have glitches? I planned to pick up Renegade for sure, but did want to make sure that game would play well. Scramble Spirits was on my mind too, as was Aerial Assault, if it is any good.  This is what I have currently:

Rambo II
Shinobi
Spy vs Spy
Not so Great Basketball
Aztec Adventure
Hang On/ Astro Warrior
Hang On/Safari Hunt
Y's
Kenseiden
Quartet
Double Dragon
Zillion
Wonderboy in Monster Land
Paper Boy
Spellcaster
Rastan
Enduro Racer
Thunder Blade
Outrun
Time Soldiers
GhostBusters
Wonder Boy
Lord of Sword
Alien Syndrome
Miracle Warriors
Zillion II
Ghost House

As of this past weekend Choplifter is on the way.  :wink:

CrackTiger

Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 09/01/2015, 03:27 PMsomeone should point this out.

Ultima 4 is fucking expensive and was only released in Europe, and it also ditches the first person dungeons, so that sucks.
I enjoy all versions of Ultima IV except NES, but SMS will always be my favorite. Not only was it released in Canada, but many say that it was also released in the U.S.

I don't know what passes as expensive anymore, but you can BIN for $11 on eBay and with case and manual for less than Atlantean.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

Bloufo

You don't absolutely have to but it's always a good thing if you had a way to access the FM tunes for those games that support it.

PCEngineHell

Quote from: guest on 09/01/2015, 06:42 PM
Quote from: guest on 09/01/2015, 03:27 PMsomeone should point this out.

Ultima 4 is fucking expensive and was only released in Europe, and it also ditches the first person dungeons, so that sucks.
I enjoy all versions of Ultima IV except NES, but SMS will always be my favorite. Not only was it released in Canada, but many say that it was also released in the U.S.

I don't know what passes as expensive anymore, but you can BIN for $11 on eBay and with case and manual for less than Atlantean.
I couldn't find any CIB auctions of it on Master System that cheap. Cheapest one I saw was a loose cart from France.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XUltima+IV+sega.TRS0&_nkw=Ultima+IV+sega&_sacat=0

bob

How are people leaving out dick tracy?  Game is terrific.

csgx1

Quote from: PCEngineHell on 09/01/2015, 06:31 PMWhat games are Pal specific then, that do not run, or run well in NTSC, like run to fast or have glitches? I planned to pick up Renegade for sure, but did want to make sure that game would play well.
I have Renegade.  I beat it years ago and from what I remember it worked fine in NTSC.

Also Master of Darkness is a decent Castlevania clone.  A Euro release only but works fine in NTSC.

VenomMacbeth

The only PAL games I can think of that don't work with NTSC consoles are:

New Zealand Story (doesn't work at all, except in a Power Base Converter)

Desert Strike (works, but garbled graphics during gameplay)

Chase HQ (timer counts down too fast, road graphics may possibly be glitchy, can't remember)
Quote from: Gogan on 08/01/2013, 09:54 AMPlay Turbografx.
Play the Turbografx. PLAY
THE TURBOGRAFX!!!!!!

Buh buh buh, I have almost all teh games evar.  I R TEH BESTEST COLLECTR!!

PCEngineHell

If all goes well I will have these on the way:

Scramble Spirits
Rampage
Kung Fu Kid
World Grand Prix
Cyborg Hunter
Golvellius
Action Fighter

CrackTiger

Quote from: PCEngineHell on 09/01/2015, 08:02 PM
Quote from: CrackTiger on 09/01/2015, 06:42 PM
Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 09/01/2015, 03:27 PMsomeone should point this out.

Ultima 4 is fucking expensive and was only released in Europe, and it also ditches the first person dungeons, so that sucks.
I enjoy all versions of Ultima IV except NES, but SMS will always be my favorite. Not only was it released in Canada, but many say that it was also released in the U.S.

I don't know what passes as expensive anymore, but you can BIN for $11 on eBay and with case and manual for less than Atlantean.
I couldn't find any CIB auctions of it on Master System that cheap. Cheapest one I saw was a loose cart from France.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XUltima+IV+sega.TRS0&_nkw=Ultima+IV+sega&_sacat=0
Here's the copy for $11:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTIMA-IV-JEU-SEGA-MASTER-STSTEM-RPG-RARE-/331642731738?hash=item4d37727cda

When looking for the best deals on SMS games, make sure to search for "SEGA MASTER" separately from "SMS" and the game title.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

PCEngineHell

Quote from: guest on 09/02/2015, 01:33 AM
Quote from: PCEngineHell on 09/01/2015, 08:02 PM
Quote from: guest on 09/01/2015, 06:42 PM
Quote from: guest on 09/01/2015, 03:27 PMsomeone should point this out.

Ultima 4 is fucking expensive and was only released in Europe, and it also ditches the first person dungeons, so that sucks.
I enjoy all versions of Ultima IV except NES, but SMS will always be my favorite. Not only was it released in Canada, but many say that it was also released in the U.S.

I don't know what passes as expensive anymore, but you can BIN for $11 on eBay and with case and manual for less than Atlantean.
I couldn't find any CIB auctions of it on Master System that cheap. Cheapest one I saw was a loose cart from France.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XUltima+IV+sega.TRS0&_nkw=Ultima+IV+sega&_sacat=0
Here's the copy for $11:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTIMA-IV-JEU-SEGA-MASTER-STSTEM-RPG-RARE-/331642731738?hash=item4d37727cda

When looking for the best deals on SMS games, make sure to search for "SEGA MASTER" separately from "SMS" and the game title.
Thats the one I saw that was in France, it isn't CIB. Thats what I went looking for, one that was CIB for $11. :P There isn't any copies that are CIB for 11 bucks currently. Really the one from France will run a bit over $20 after shipping and paypal currency conversion fees or whatever. I think most of the ones that are CIB exceed the $50 range, so it's not really a "cheap" game per say.

Medic_wheat

Quote from: agent_orange on 09/01/2015, 08:30 PMHow are people leaving out dick tracy?  Game is terrific.
The Genesis port is better all around to me

CrackTiger

Quote from: PCEngineHell on 09/02/2015, 08:18 AM
Quote from: CrackTiger on 09/02/2015, 01:33 AM
Quote from: PCEngineHell on 09/01/2015, 08:02 PM
Quote from: CrackTiger on 09/01/2015, 06:42 PM
Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 09/01/2015, 03:27 PMsomeone should point this out.

Ultima 4 is fucking expensive and was only released in Europe, and it also ditches the first person dungeons, so that sucks.
I enjoy all versions of Ultima IV except NES, but SMS will always be my favorite. Not only was it released in Canada, but many say that it was also released in the U.S.

I don't know what passes as expensive anymore, but you can BIN for $11 on eBay and with case and manual for less than Atlantean.
I couldn't find any CIB auctions of it on Master System that cheap. Cheapest one I saw was a loose cart from France.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.XUltima+IV+sega.TRS0&_nkw=Ultima+IV+sega&_sacat=0
Here's the copy for $11:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTIMA-IV-JEU-SEGA-MASTER-STSTEM-RPG-RARE-/331642731738?hash=item4d37727cda

When looking for the best deals on SMS games, make sure to search for "SEGA MASTER" separately from "SMS" and the game title.
Thats the one I saw that was in France, it isn't CIB. Thats what I went looking for, one that was CIB for $11. :P There isn't any copies that are CIB for 11 bucks currently. Really the one from France will run a bit over $20 after shipping and paypal currency conversion fees or whatever. I think most of the ones that are CIB exceed the $50 range, so it's not really a "cheap" game per say.
Like I said, it's not an expensive game to buy to play, not a dirt cheap game to collect CIB (unless you are a legit CIB collector), but still cheaper with case and manual than Atlantean, which I wouldn't call "fucking expensive".

$35 in case with manual (as complete as most SMS games) is considered a good price for a good game by PCE game player standards.

If you happen to live in a place that is expensive to ship to, that's independant of the game's value, but that game + case + manual copy is OBO.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

esteban

#22
Quote from: PCEngineHell on 09/02/2015, 01:11 AMIf all goes well I will have these on the way:

Scramble Spirits
Rampage
Kung Fu Kid
World Grand Prix
Cyborg Hunter
Golvellius
Action Fighter
I like hybrid, quirky games with ambition.

Golvellius falls into that category.

Knowing your interests, this is the sort of game you will absolutely be able to appreciate (unlike folks who aren't interested/skilled in many genres).

Now, whether or not you think it is more than an average game is for you to decide.

For me, it is one of the reasons to have SMS. 

Also, you didn't ask about Sega Card games (and they aren't anything special), but there are a couple you might want—TransBot, because it is hori shootemup; Spy vs. Spy, because...I don't know—just to see what the medium could offer.

Sega Card did not really get fully exploited...never had a chance to mature and come into its own. I think it could have been pretty kool, but I totally understand why it wasn't meant to compete with "deluxe, full mega power games" in cart form. Nintendo's FDS was a better experiment (in terms of game library)...a "budget-friendly" library if games...
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VenomMacbeth

Nobody's mentioned Sagaia yet, but I think it's a pretty good port considering the hardware.  It was the first Darius game I ever beat. ^-^

Also, be sure to find a way to play GG Aleste II for it, as it's been hacked to run on SMS.  I think GG Shinobi might have gotten a similar treatment, if I'm not mistaken.

Also, I'm probably the only one that feels this way, but I really enjoy Shadow Dancer in short bursts.  Its harder than a Viagra-abusing teenager, but the graphics are really appealing & I don't find it too much more unfair than many other 8-bit games.

Road Rash also has a decent port on the system, better looking than any other racing game on the system IMO.
Quote from: Gogan on 08/01/2013, 09:54 AMPlay Turbografx.
Play the Turbografx. PLAY
THE TURBOGRAFX!!!!!!

Buh buh buh, I have almost all teh games evar.  I R TEH BESTEST COLLECTR!!

BigusSchmuck

Oh yeah, speaking of Sega Cards I forgot about Ghost House. That sucker is hard, maybe a bit repetitive, but I definitely enjoyed it quite a bit. Reminded me of Sega's version of Goonies but with vampires and such.

CrackTiger

Quote from: VenomMacbeth on 09/02/2015, 11:49 AMNobody's mentioned Sagaia yet, but I think it's a pretty good port considering the hardware.  It was the first Darius game I ever beat. ^-^

Also, be sure to find a way to play GG Aleste II for it, as it's been hacked to run on SMS.  I think GG Shinobi might have gotten a similar treatment, if I'm not mistaken.

Also, I'm probably the only one that feels this way, but I really enjoy Shadow Dancer in short bursts.  Its harder than a Viagra-abusing teenager, but the graphics are really appealing & I don't find it too much more unfair than many other 8-bit games.

Road Rash also has a decent port on the system, better looking than any other racing game on the system IMO.
Sagaia is in the second response.

It's known more for being a tech demo, but it's still a solid fun game.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

VenomMacbeth

Yeah, it definitely has its moments, like the slowdown, and how the whole game pauses to load the first boss...and the last level is near-friggin-impossible thanks to that super techy background making it difficult to dodge bullets...But still, I think you'll be hard pressed to find a better sidescrolling space shooter in the 8-bit generation.  The only others I can think to compare are Gradius II and Over Horizon on the NES/fami.

Sorry I missed the post, though!
Quote from: Gogan on 08/01/2013, 09:54 AMPlay Turbografx.
Play the Turbografx. PLAY
THE TURBOGRAFX!!!!!!

Buh buh buh, I have almost all teh games evar.  I R TEH BESTEST COLLECTR!!

CrackTiger

Quote from: VenomMacbeth on 09/02/2015, 12:12 PMYeah, it definitely has its moments, like the slowdown, and how the whole game pauses to load the first boss...and the last level is near-friggin-impossible thanks to that super techy background making it difficult to dodge bullets...But still, I think you'll be hard pressed to find a better sidescrolling space shooter in the 8-bit generation.  The only others I can think to compare are Gradius II and Over Horizon on the NES/fami.

Sorry I missed the post, though!
That's the thing, you still have to be able to appreciate 8-bit shooters. Although the slowdown is no worse than many celebrated NES games, Sagaia was rebalanced nicely for SMS and the ship and bullet size work out well. Kind of like how Super Darius II was rebalanced for single screen console play.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

esteban

Quote from: guest on 09/02/2015, 01:07 PM
Quote from: VenomMacbeth on 09/02/2015, 12:12 PMYeah, it definitely has its moments, like the slowdown, and how the whole game pauses to load the first boss...and the last level is near-friggin-impossible thanks to that super techy background making it difficult to dodge bullets...But still, I think you'll be hard pressed to find a better sidescrolling space shooter in the 8-bit generation.  The only others I can think to compare are Gradius II and Over Horizon on the NES/fami.

Sorry I missed the post, though!
That's the thing, you still have to be able to appreciate 8-bit shooters. Although the slowdown is no worse than many celebrated NES games, Sagaia was rebalanced nicely for SMS and the ship and bullet size work out well. Kind of like how Super Darius II was rebalanced for single screen console play.
:)

https://www.tg-16.com/screenshot_comparisons_shmups.htm#Darius_2

If *anyone* at pcefx (not just the folks I am quoting) want to grab some screenshots of SMS Sagaia in action to match the PCE vs. MD shots, please do so and I will gladly add them to the page.
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CrackTiger

I posted comparison pics in the screenshot thread. But it's somehere between maybe page 50 and 80. :P
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

esteban

Quote from: guest on 09/02/2015, 02:04 PMI posted comparison pics in the screenshot thread. But it's somehere between maybe page 50 and 80. :P
Ha! I used your SMS screenshots already!

I was begging for more (to match the 16-bitters)

:)
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Arkhan Asylum

Ultima IV isn't really worth playing on SMS honestly.   Not having the first person dungeons, and not having the ability to enter text to talk to people makes the game less fun.

Just skip it and play the DOS one with VGA upgrade + MIDI patch, and tell DOSBox to use a Roland Sound Canvas.

It blows the cunt out of the SMS one.
This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

esteban

Quote from: guest on 09/02/2015, 02:44 PMUltima IV isn't really worth playing on SMS honestly.   Not having the first person dungeons, and not having the ability to enter text to talk to people makes the game less fun.

Just skip it and play the DOS one with VGA upgrade + MIDI patch, and tell DOSBox to use a Roland Sound Canvas.

It blows the cunt out of the SMS one.
Sure, if it is someone's virginal experience with Ultima IV...

But if you've played IV, it is totally fun to see how the various ports were implemented for SMS/NES/etc.

:)
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grolt

Cool to see some SMS chat here.  I've got the full US/Europe set and most of the Japanese releases too.  The Master System, like the TG-16, has an amazing amount of quality first-party games and arcade ports compared to bad games because there were few third-party developers.

What kind of genres do you like most, Prof?  I could better recommend then.

Here are some underrated games for the system that are pretty cheap:

Kenseiden - one of the best games on the system, a ninja platformer kind of like Samurai Ghost but better, a rare game that uses Feudal Japan as a backdrop and offers up non-linear gameplay and the ability to learn new attacks through training. Just awesome.
Aztec Adventure - fun overhead action game with a gimmick of bribing enemies with cash to join you, has a great ending.
Enduro Racer - cool isometric spin on Excitebike, the Japanese version has double the levels, but the American version has one of the most hilariously inspirational endings ever.
Astro Warrior - simple shmup but with some solid tunes and a just-right difficulty.
Danan: The Jungle Fighter - as close as the SMS would come to Legendary Axe.  A little clunky, but has character.
The Ninja - addicting game that's kind of like a shooter on the ground.  Relies a lot on timing but feels so good once you memorize the levels and just shuriken your way through everything.
Lord of the Sword - fun Zelda 2/Ys III side-scrolling Action RPG.  Has some great art in the later levels.
Penguin Land - really unique and fun platformer/puzzle hybrid
Quartet - fun 2-player game that's kind of a shmup/action hybrid
Rastan - good port of the arcade game
Rescue Mission - cool light gun game that's overhead and you're goal is to protect a cart on rails rather than just shooting bad guys like every other light gun game
Thunder Blade - pretty faithful port of the arcade that's better than the Genesis version
Alex Kidd: High-Tech World - super-quirky game that's half RPG where you're exploring your mansion trying to find pieces to a map so you can go to the arcade, then the second half is a pretty challenging little Shinobi-like action platformer. Filled with personality and SEGA references.
I'm a notorious strange man.

CrackTiger

I don't limit myself to what can be argued as technically the "best" version of any one game. I love SMS Ys with or without FM sound and I'd love to play an imperfect version of Ultima IV on PC Engine. If extra features make any version the best, then we should all toss our consoles and stick to emulation.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: CrackTiger on 09/02/2015, 03:30 PMIf extra features make any version the best, then we should all toss our consoles and stick to emulation.
The ability to talk to NPCs and actually have to investigate/converse with them was one of the strongest points to Ultima IV's game engine.   Not having it cheapens the adventurous experience.  You get presented with a dropdown of possible options.

*any* computer version of the game trumps the console versions for this reason.   The console ones eliminate a large portion of what made the game fun.

I am also unsure why SMS version had no first person dungeon crawling and went with the Ultima VI style dungeons.   The SMS is capable of the dugneons.   Phantasy Star did it.

I would go with the NES one simply because it's an entirely new spin on the game, with actual consolized concepts, instead of looking like the PC one, but with problems.


This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

Dicer

Quote from: guest on 09/02/2015, 02:44 PMUltima IV isn't really worth playing on SMS honestly.   Not having the first person dungeons, and not having the ability to enter text to talk to people makes the game less fun.

Just skip it and play the DOS one with VGA upgrade + MIDI patch, and tell DOSBox to use a Roland Sound Canvas.

It blows the cunt out of the SMS one.
Or play the superior Amiga Version...

Arkhan Asylum

Quote from: Dicer on 09/02/2015, 04:55 PM
Quote from: Psycho Arkhan on 09/02/2015, 02:44 PMUltima IV isn't really worth playing on SMS honestly.   Not having the first person dungeons, and not having the ability to enter text to talk to people makes the game less fun.

Just skip it and play the DOS one with VGA upgrade + MIDI patch, and tell DOSBox to use a Roland Sound Canvas.

It blows the cunt out of the SMS one.
Or play the superior Amiga Version...
Superior and Amiga form this thing called an oxymoron.

Also, the Amiga one doesn't really hold a candle to the VGA upgrade for DOS with an external MIDI module....
the Ultimas on Amiga were all pretty hohum, lol.


This "max-level forum psycho" (:lol:) destroyed TWO PC Engine groups in rage: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook "Because Chris 'Shadowland' Runyon!," then the other by Aaron Nanto "Because Le NightWolve!" Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together... Both times he blamed the Aarons in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged, destructive, toxic turbo troll gang!

BigusSchmuck

Quote from: guest on 09/02/2015, 05:20 PM
Quote from: Dicer on 09/02/2015, 04:55 PM
Quote from: guest on 09/02/2015, 02:44 PMUltima IV isn't really worth playing on SMS honestly.   Not having the first person dungeons, and not having the ability to enter text to talk to people makes the game less fun.

Just skip it and play the DOS one with VGA upgrade + MIDI patch, and tell DOSBox to use a Roland Sound Canvas.

It blows the cunt out of the SMS one.
Or play the superior Amiga Version...
Superior and Amiga form this thing called an oxymoron.

Also, the Amiga one doesn't really hold a candle to the VGA upgrade for DOS with an external MIDI module....
the Ultimas on Amiga were all pretty hohum, lol.
Hey you forgot about the Dreamcast port! :P
http://xu4.sourceforge.net/

PCEngineHell

Per many of your guys post, it looks like I already have a lot of what some of you recommended, like Ghost House, Kenseiden, etc, which is great. Definitely still more to get, and I will work my way up the list of good titles. I had a MS years back as an early teen, with about 18-20 games or so. I loved the thing, but back then my gaming was limited to RF on a Master System 2 on a tv that had issues, and sometimes the color would flake out and the screen would go B&W. Now I am finally able to revisit the library and play it right, so very pleased. :)

PCEngineHell

After looking at some gameplay of Bomber Raid, I am grabbing that one too. It looks solid. :)

Gredler

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Quote from: guest on 09/01/2015, 03:14 PMCyborg Hunter
Danm you for taking mine. Love that game! Probably my favorite on the system because of the first person radar companied with the metroid like level design, and I enjoy the graphics quite a bit though rough in spots. And you can't beat the box art :)
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Well, maybe Japan can,


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Regardless, a really fun game :)


Honestly though, if you can stomach jrpg's, get into some phantasy star. I got so addicted when I went to play through the game again recently. I ended up downloading an app for my phone called "phantasy star maps" that allowed me to plot my course through the various dungeons. Maps are key.


Dick Tracey has a great version on this system.


There are also quite a few very enjoyable light gun games. Rescue mission, gangster town, and wanted to name a few :)


Enjoy, it's a lovely little system.


Edit: I had recently picked up SpellCaster but have not had much time to play it - so far it's a great game. if you pick that up I would love to continue playing it and get a group discussion going. It's a fascinating game that was followed up by Mystic Defender on the genesis.

esteban

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Quote from: PCEngineHell on 09/02/2015, 11:43 PMAfter looking at some gameplay of Bomber Raid, I am grabbing that one too. It looks solid. :)
That's why I mentioned TransBot...I had a feeling you might want to play all the shootemups, even if they are not groundbreaking...I picked up Bomber Raid from majors recently*

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grolt

Yeah the interface on Cyborg Hunter is great. I remember being blown away that they could show the three perspectives simultaneously and still be able to keep a solid frame rate. Fun game too.
I'm a notorious strange man.

majors

I've been on a SMS kick the past few years, picked up db-elec FM thingy that renewed my interest. I had a Master System next to my NES bitd, but when I got the PBC, I traded of the console and kept only r-type, Golden Axe and P.Star.

Since then, I've bought and sold a good chunk of titles, but ended up with keeping these:

Action Fighter <- Found this to be more enjoyable than Bomber Raid
Alex Kidd in miracle world <- Mainly for it being the mascot
California Games <- Surfing is my jam and has FM support
Choplifter <- it's way hard, but slick parallax
Double Dragon <- everyone heralds it for being 2p
Enduro Racer <- I really enjoy this one, simple but fun
Golden Axe <- love the graphic style
Golvellius <- Music is tops
Hang-on/Astro Warrior <- My original pack-in, LOVE Hang-on
Phantasy Star <- my first console RPG, fuck Final Fantasy!
R-type <- SO GOOD! Reason to keep the console.
Rambo First Blood part II <- Recent pick up, I enjoy it.
Rampage <- FM tunes do it justice. Might be repetitive but I keep coming back to it.
Rastan <- great 8-bit port albeit shorter levels
Time Soldiers <- I'm a big Ikari Warriors fan form the arcade, TS was always a runner up.
TG/PCE Collection.
"Booze should be a choice, not a privilege" -KCDC (The FP)

esteban

I didn't recommend Time Soldiers (SMS) because it is so different than the arcade original I loved playing back in the day.

Personally, the SMS game should be given a different title, then I would be happier. It is a mediocre SMS game, and is NOT WORTHY of the honorable Time Soldiers name.

Time Soldiers = one of my favorite games in middle school. Local deli had it. So much fun. I think it replaced Robocop, which I loved playing because I could beat it on a quarter. I don't think I ever beat Time Soldiers on only one quarter (but I could get damn far).

Dual rotating sticks were so friggin' sweet, the constant warping to different eras is a concept that WOULD STILL BE AWESOME TODAY. At least, for me, anyway.

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PCEngineHell

Quote from: esteban on 09/03/2015, 10:15 AM
Quote from: PCEngineHell on 09/02/2015, 11:43 PMAfter looking at some gameplay of Bomber Raid, I am grabbing that one too. It looks solid. :)
That's why I mentioned TransBot...I had a feeling you might want to play all the shootemups, even if they are not groundbreaking...I picked up Bomber Raid from majors recently*

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* "recently" in my world translates --> two years ago.
I will probably skip Transbot. It's not a long game at all, more of a early tech demo, not really worth the asking price. If they would have given the game a couple more levels it would have been cool. Bomber Raid just looks solid, so I am sure I will enjoy it.

o.pwuaioc

Transbot is the best Master System game on a chip rather than cart, but imo, it's still not worth buying. I got it, played it, shrugged, and sold it.

PCEngineHell

I love Ghost House and Spy vs Spy. Transbot I can just look at and tell it wont do anything for me because it is too limited as a shooter.

esteban

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^ I assumed TransBot would be dirt cheap. Ha! I guess I should have checked prices.


Quote from: PCEngineHell on 09/03/2015, 12:48 PMI love Ghost House and Spy vs Spy. Transbot I can just look at and tell it wont do anything for me because it is too limited as a shooter.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I have an OCD compulsion to play every single shoot-em-up, no matter how crappy/simplistic.

Thankfully: Spy vs. Spy & Ghost House :)
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