It has happened...

Bernie · 12/06/2015, 02:11 PM

Not sure if this should upset me or not.. I mean, they are selling an entire system...with a few games...

But, it would appear they are pushing the PCE Works games as a selling point on this.. Does this auction belong to anyone here??

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-Engine-IFU-30-5-GAMES-SYSTEM-CARD-2-0-3-0-TESTED-DRACULA-X-INCLUDED-/221945997344?hash=item33ad032820%3Ag%3AS8oAAOSwEgVWTshk

blueraven · 12/06/2015, 02:21 PM

Blown away that this happened so quickly. It's not like you weren't completely explicit about it in the instructions.

SignOfZeta · 12/06/2015, 02:43 PM

I would just like to thank you for posting more than a link.

Bernie · 12/06/2015, 02:44 PM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 12/06/2015, 02:43 PMI would just like to thank you for posting more than a link.

????

NM, I think I get it.. Just tired.. ugh

jperryss · 12/06/2015, 02:51 PM

You have addresses for everyone you shipped to. Maybe check for Jonesborough TN?

Alt-Nintega · 12/06/2015, 02:52 PM

I'm lost. So is $400 a lot for this or is this too cheap?

Bernie · 12/06/2015, 02:54 PM

Quote from: Psycho Alt-Nintega on 12/06/2015, 02:52 PMI'm lost. So is $400 a lot for this or is this too cheap?

Well, I feel its a little high, considering what is included... It appears that he has the price jacked up, with the repros as a selling point. But, I dunno...maybe I should just not let it bother me. If some dummy wants to spend 400 on that, let him do so.

CrackTiger · 12/06/2015, 03:01 PM

The problem now is, anyone morally flexible who sees that will think that sprinkling in repro discs will help them get top dollar for their PCE flipping.

The way that I look at it though, is the TurbobXpress has turned out much better than should have been expected as far as this crap goes. We've seen enough eBay flipping of pcefx deals and products like Sparky's covers long before this. Unless no one here has just not noticed more of these, so far this is an anomaly.

QuoteWell, I feel its a little high, considering what is included... It appears that he has the price jacked up, with the repros as a selling point.

That's very high by eBay pricing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-Engine-CD-ROM2-Interface-Unit-IFU-30-Console-Game-System-PCE-Nec-JAP-/131603702820?hash=item1ea4312424:g:-ScAAOSwLqFV9uNu

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEC-PC-ENGINE-CONSOLE-IFU-30-BRIEFCASE-WORKING-2-/201427978372?hash=item2ee60b0884:g:ORwAAOSwEetV9a08

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-Engine-Core-Grafx-Console-Super-CD-ROM-with-Interface-System-TurboGrafx-/231694600298?hash=item35f213086a:g:FS4AAOSwHjNV~lPr

They basically sold the repros for $50 each.

Bernie · 12/06/2015, 03:47 PM

Listing is down.

johnnykonami · 12/06/2015, 04:36 PM

That blows. C'mon people.. stop trying to profiteer off of everything.

Bernie's efforts (as well as BlueBMW, Joshua, and everyone else involved) have been damn near altruistic in getting these out to us for pretty much cost of shipping (and hopefully not much of a loss if at all.)

My booties are much appreciated, have been/will be played (I'll get to them all eventually), and while I probably won't ever get rid of them, if I did I'd just keep them in the family here. Seriously, thanks again for letting me get some of these otherwise expensive gems.

SignOfZeta · 12/06/2015, 04:42 PM

Quote from: Bernie on 12/06/2015, 02:44 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 12/06/2015, 02:43 PMI would just like to thank you for posting more than a link.
????

NM, I think I get it.. Just tired.. ugh

Lately there have been a rash of, IMO, shitty posts, where the OP makes a thread called "Oh dang...", pastes a link and then says, "What do you guys think?" as if clicking on blind links that could lead literally anywhere (usually a 30 minute youtube video or a ebay auction with a crazy price) was something anybody wanted to do.

I hate it. You didn't do it. I was thanking you.

Bernie · 12/06/2015, 04:44 PM

Yeah, im not a fan of that either.

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sirhcman · 12/06/2015, 05:03 PM

FWIW: Other sold auctions by that seller said the item was located in Columbus, OH. Might want to check who you sent to in that area as well. They probably changed the item location in order to try and protect themselves from being found out. I hope you figure out who it was

blueraven · 12/06/2015, 05:13 PM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 12/06/2015, 04:42 PMLately there have been a rash of, IMO, shitty posts, where the OP makes a thread called "Oh dang...", pastes a link and then says, "What do you guys think?" as if clicking on blind links that could lead literally anywhere (usually a 30 minute youtube video or a ebay auction with a crazy price) was something anybody wanted to do.
I hate it. You didn't do it. I was thanking you.

99% of the time I hate it too... but I can think of one instance where this was totally fucking hilarious... or perhaps, 85% fucking hilarious.

Wow..

Bernie · 12/06/2015, 05:49 PM

Im gonna go through my reciepts and try to figure out who this is. Wanna make sure they get nothing else from this community. The more I think about it the more pissed I get, specially with his smart ass reply back to my message on ebay. Most likely made it up to try and gather some sympathy. Fucking parasite. If anyone else can figure out who he is, get with me.

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PCEngineHell · 12/06/2015, 06:35 PM

If said seller really felt his asking price was fair for the system itself, and he was not factoring in the repro disc, then he can just as easily relist the system with the disc not included in the listing. Its as simple as that. I dont care what the guys situation is. At this point he is betraying the trust of the people nice enough to do this distribution for the community.

PunkCryborg · 12/06/2015, 06:41 PM

There's so many people who have just recently gotten into PCE because of these bootlegs and the Everdrive. I see pics all the time on FB and Instagram where people "finally" get a Duo and they just get the repro discs and an everdrive. Not surprised to see them getting dumped as well because a lot of these people only get into the system after watching some youtube shows or seeing some collectards wall of games and they gotta have it all too

SignOfZeta · 12/06/2015, 06:57 PM

Most of these noob fucks only own their systems for a very short time. This was really really not a long time, but its not unheard of.

So, given that reality, what are the rules? Do they have to destroy their copies when they sell the system? Please tell me that its that. That would be pretty great, actually...

I do agree that his wording does attempt to hype his auction with the boots, but that's pretty vague territory. Besides, the guy he ultimately sells it too probably will anyway, so within a year or two at least half of these boots will be on their second or third or fourth owner and few of them will know their origins and IF THEY DID then...

...in the future you will probably see "PC Engine FX Forums Givaway Ver." used as a mark of quality on bootlegs in eBay auctions...so get ready for that.

Bernie · 12/06/2015, 07:14 PM

Sadly Zeta, youre probably right. We knew this would happen, but not so quickly..,

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synbiosfan · 12/06/2015, 07:31 PM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 12/06/2015, 06:57 PMMost of these noob fucks only own their systems for a very short time. This was really really not a long time, but its not unheard of.

So, given that reality, what are the rules? Do they have to destroy their copies when they sell the system? Please tell me that its that. That would be pretty great, actually...

I do agree that his wording does attempt to hype his auction with the boots, but that's pretty vague territory. Besides, the guy he ultimately sells it too probably will anyway, so within a year or two at least half of these boots will be on their second or third or fourth owner and few of them will know their origins and IF THEY DID then...

...in the future you will probably see "PC Engine FX Forums Givaway Ver." used as a mark of quality on bootlegs in eBay auctions...so get ready for that.

I plan on passing any games I don't enjoy onto a good member who missed out for the $5 or the price of shipping. Which is greater type of thing.

Just putting that out there.

Someone obviously felt differently.

Nazi NecroPhile · 12/07/2015, 12:38 PM

That seller can eat turds. He should stick to buying the fancy limited edition versions with rubber stake dildos and commemorative coins, leaving the 'gamer' versions for the good guys.

ginoscope · 12/07/2015, 04:13 PM

Man what a crappy thing to do and it really annoys me as a newer member.

It was really cool of older members to include everyone and now this happens. I really appreciate the effort that went into all this but I can understand how annoyed everyone is.

BigusSchmuck · 12/07/2015, 04:14 PM

The fact he is following Stone Age Gamer should be like a clue he's a schmuck.

geise · 12/08/2015, 06:12 AM

He could've also just fucking started a sale thread here, but he probably wouldn't get what he wanted for his "emergency funds" That just kinda proves it's all for the money.

sn0zc0r3 · 12/08/2015, 01:01 PM

What a sack of dicks. Fuck that.

VestCunt · 12/08/2015, 02:20 PM

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 12/06/2015, 06:57 PMSo, given that reality, what are the rules? Do they have to destroy their copies when they sell the system? Please tell me that its that. That would be pretty great, actually...

Ideally, resellers should raffle them back to the forum or post them here for $5. On ebay, auctions are fine, BIN's are always bullshit.

Sparky · 12/09/2015, 09:31 AM

It is great you keep track of who you sold to as i do as well, keeping every PM i receive and send out about repro stuff purchased off of me. It has come in handy a few times.

Do we have a forum name of the guy that did the fuckery?

o.pwuaioc · 12/09/2015, 10:29 AM

Quote from: synbiosfan on 12/06/2015, 07:31 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 12/06/2015, 06:57 PMSo, given that reality, what are the rules?
I plan on passing any games I don't enjoy onto a good member who missed out for the $5 or the price of shipping. Which is greater type of thing.

Just putting that out there.

Someone obviously felt differently.

People pull all sorts of shit out when money is on the line.

Gentlegamer · 12/09/2015, 10:41 AM

If Bernie can figure out who this is, he should also be banned from the forum.

Jason_dicarlo85 · 12/09/2015, 11:15 AM

Dam that didn't take someone long to profit off everyone else's hard work... Nice attitude about it when confronted as well

T2KFreeker · 12/09/2015, 02:25 PM

What a scum bag. People never cease to amaze me any more. Whatever they can do to Fuck others over. it's crap like this killing this "Hobby". It's no longer a hobby, it's a business, you see? A business on who can gang rape the most people out of money by Fucking them over at every flip of the coin. I hope we get a username out of this one. Bastard doesn't deserve one more thing from this community. I'll give him a hit and run. To lie on top of everything else. plus, when you do find out who he is and whatnot, the assclown will have the balls to run his mouth and act all butt hurt like he didn't do anything wrong and we are all the one's that are wrong. Funny how he just happened to get hit by a car right after getting his PCE Works discs. Oh the coincidence. Douchebaggery at it's finest. Bernie, don't let this asshole bug you. Karma is a Bitch and she will come to collect. Mark my words. You guys are still awesome for doing this for the board. Don't let one asshole ruin it for everyone else. I've appreciated it from the start, even starting with the first one I got from you, the old Sapphire disc, which I still have and play the Hell out of to this day!

GoldenWheels · 12/09/2015, 04:04 PM

As others said....assumed it would happen....had no idea this quickly.

Shit I broke down and finally ordered a duo from Keith to replace my turbo BECAUSE of this great thing Bernie and Blue are doing. It was finally affordable for me to play these games "for real" and I really appreciated that it was open to newer members.

Screw this guy!

MotherGunner · 12/09/2015, 04:15 PM

This is fucking sad. Get the frakker...

blueraven · 12/09/2015, 04:54 PM

I cant feasibly see how a person who receives the games, and flips them 2-3 days later can get away with it. Pulling the auction was an admission of guilt, and the mob is pissed. It's just a matter of time until the person who did this fesses up or is found out.

...We know he's reading the thread, because as soon as this convo started, the auction was pulled within a few hours.

Sorry dude, that wasn't cool. Bernie and BMW put way too much time into redistributing this project, and you set yourself up to be burned by the community for doing this. I don't expect a response, despite everyone calling you out. Your silence is enough.

EvilEvoIX · 12/09/2015, 05:43 PM

No good deed EVER goes unpunished.

o.pwuaioc · 12/09/2015, 09:39 PM

Is there a way to mark the CDs for future tagging?

Psycho Punch · 12/09/2015, 09:48 PM

Ok, ok, I'm not selling my PCE anymore, stop harassing me.

Bernie · 12/10/2015, 04:07 PM

Alright, so it appears the guy doesn't want to come forward, so as a precaution for all, I am going to post his info here, and have Beemer update the second post in the Turbob Xpress thread with his info. I would caution anyone before dealing with this guy, unless you want to gouge the shit out of him....

Octavio Guzman

Ohio

Purchased on the Facebook group.

Got:
Drac X Translated, Beyond Shadowgate, Might and Magic III

Store Name:
Brookside Traders

johnnykonami · 12/10/2015, 05:04 PM

aka "Densetsu" on ebay, may have been a recent change.

JoshTurboTrollX · 12/10/2015, 05:23 PM

Quote from: guest on 12/09/2015, 09:31 AMDo we have a forum name of the guy that did the fuckery?

I've also tried contacting the guy via email about a forum handle. He said he never signed up, "but will ASAP!"

Just for background, he contacted us for a set of the discs two weeks ago after we offered the remaining discs to the facebook groups. We keep all orders on record so anyone that pulls this shit will be blacklisted.

jtucci31 · 12/10/2015, 08:45 PM

I'm glad you took out some of his personal information. I know it sucks but we don't want the guy to crash and burn infinitely/terribly. We're all human.

Bernie · 12/10/2015, 09:02 PM

Quote from: guest on 12/10/2015, 08:45 PMI'm glad you took out some of his personal information. I know it sucks but we don't want the guy to crash and burn infinitely/terribly. We're all human.

ok

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Mathius · 12/10/2015, 09:07 PM

This enrages me like no other. This is the only community on the web that treats its members the way we do and it's only a matter of time before this crap strikes. But, we can't turn our backs to newer members just in fear of what may/will happen for that will be our inevitable downfall in the end. We'll take our lumps, get justice, and move on still being a paradise in a sea of greed. This is retro gaming's only hope.

T2KFreeker · 12/10/2015, 10:36 PM

When the Jerk signs up here, let us know who he is. I got a Fire and a Spit waiting for some nice Rotisserie. Stupid ass.

PCEngineHell · 12/11/2015, 01:20 AM

Quote from: Bernie on 12/10/2015, 04:07 PMAlright, so it appears the guy doesn't want to come forward, so as a precaution for all, I am going to post his info here, and have Beemer update the second post in the Turbob Xpress thread with his info. I would caution anyone before dealing with this guy, unless you want to gouge the shit out of him....

Octavio Guzman

Ohio

Purchased on the Facebook group.

Got:
Drac X Translated, Beyond Shadowgate, Might and Magic III

Store Name:
Brookside Traders

This guy?
https://www.facebook.com/hockeysavants

Psycho Punch · 12/11/2015, 02:14 AM

Lol who would expect someone from the facebook group would do something like that? What a surprise!

...I know this sounds elitist but that's why stuff like the repro discs have to be contained inside this forum. It would take at least more than a day for someone to sell them on ebay at least.

PukeSter · 12/11/2015, 07:40 AM

Quote from: Psycho Punch on 12/11/2015, 02:14 AMLol who would expect someone from the facebook group would do something like that? What a surprise!

...I know this sounds elitist but that's why stuff like the repro discs have to be contained inside this forum. It would take at least more than a day for someone to sell them on ebay at least.

Not elitist at all, the most reasonable post in the whole thread.

Thank you for not cursing the guy to be hit by a car, either.

Bernie · 12/11/2015, 08:22 AM

Fuck a car, use a bus.

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JoshTurboTrollX · 12/11/2015, 09:49 AM

Quote from: guest on 12/11/2015, 02:14 AMLol who would expect someone from the facebook group would do something like that? What a surprise!

...I know this sounds elitist but that's why stuff like the repro discs have to be contained inside this forum. It would take at least more than a day for someone to sell them on ebay at least.

This is why we offered them up for over a month exclusively on the forums. I had about 25 sets of the round 1 discs left over. Once things slowed to a crawl here, we offered them to facebook peeps.

Also, the idea behind all of this is that NOBODY should be attempting to flip them on an auction site/sales forum or try to profit off of these damn pressed boots. Everyone that picked up one from facebook was warned thrice that if they were caught, not only would they be blacklisted from any future offers, would also face public humiliation and be a disgrace to the community.

Me personally, I feel Bernie did the right thing by removing the guy's personal information (home address/etc), but c'mon man! How stupid do you have to be? We just want these knucklefucks to play the stupid games and if they don't like 'em to pass on the discs to others. Trying to scalp off an extra $50+ on an eBay auction is pretty damn low and any hate mail the guy gets is well deserved.

CrackTiger · 12/11/2015, 11:49 AM

Quote from: PCEngineHell on 12/11/2015, 01:20 AM
Quote from: Bernie on 12/10/2015, 04:07 PMAlright, so it appears the guy doesn't want to come forward, so as a precaution for all, I am going to post his info here, and have Beemer update the second post in the Turbob Xpress thread with his info. I would caution anyone before dealing with this guy, unless you want to gouge the shit out of him....

Octavio Guzman

Ohio

Purchased on the Facebook group.

Got:
Drac X Translated, Beyond Shadowgate, Might and Magic III

Store Name:
Brookside Traders
This guy?
https://www.facebook.com/hockeysavants

If that's the guy, he's living like a "baller", showing off all his expensive crap like hockey memorabilia "hauls", with no sob stories about medical problems.