Dragon's Curse Value new sealed?

[djolof]

I wanted the experience of opening & playing a new game (even though I'd played F-Zero prior to then).

what are you? twelve years old? "experience". Listen to yourself you sound ridiculous. What's wrong with playing your used one? The whole "experience" is in the game itself, not fetishly opening and cumming while opening new game, like some dumb geeknerd.

Stop feeding new members this bs. People collect video games. They keep the great stuff sealed because they can frame it, hang it and look at it knowing its worth hundreds or thousands. Like paintings. It's an investment.

Video games are not investments, Tool. If you're allocating your income there in the hopes that one day one of your games are going to fund your retirement, well... never mind, please continue to do that. Good luck with that, actually! Any tips on which games I should be stockpiling?
Speaking of which, where's that market report I asked for earlier? I need your insight on where the Turbo market is headed. Thanks!

https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=8477.msg441005#msg441005

Standard & Tool's recently relegated the credit one could have with sealed Timeball copies to Junk status.

Fantastic! Thank you for sharing this. 

[TurboXray]

I don't see the big deal about keeping them sealed.

I'm guessing you have figured it out yet. You're not very bright, are you?

This is a gamer forum, not a collectard forum. This isn't Assembler's place or some other collectard forum, where envy and jealously runs the gamut among the ranks - and one's status is only elevated by the amount of game memorabilia they've accumulated.

[Gentlegamer]

That's fine. Guess I'm a collectard

Collectards! Collectards!

You really need to dial it down sometimes Gentlegamer. I think almost every single one of your posts contains the word "collectard".

Take it up with Ron Jeremy.

[VenomMacbeth]

I wanted the experience of opening & playing a new game (even though I'd played F-Zero prior to then).

what are you? twelve years old? "experience". Listen to yourself you sound ridiculous. What's wrong with playing your used one? The whole "experience" is in the game itself, not fetishly opening and cumming while opening new game, like some dumb geeknerd.

Stop feeding new members this bs. People collect video games. They keep the great stuff sealed because they can frame it, hang it and look at it knowing its worth hundreds or thousands. Like paintings. It's an investment.

Because I no longer had a loose copy, you giant douche.  Emulate/flash cart all you want, but nothing can replicate the feeling of opening and playing a new game for the first time on a real console.  That is the only reason to collect sealed video games, for me.  You do what you like with your infinite funds, paying for shit you can't/don't even use.

Honestly, you sound like the 12 year old.  Sports cards?  You're really comparing video games to sports cards?  Seriously, fuck you.  I'm surprised nobody's found a reason to ban your useless ass.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

I've played downloaded ISOs of PSP games almost exclusively since getting a PSP Go, yet I always free newly acquired games from their plastic prison.  Unless you're worried about maximizing resale value, what's the point of keeping 'em sealed?  I can't read the manual if it's sealed, and I can 'display' them without cellophane just as well as with.

[geise]

I just don't understand why you don't just put up a damn price and be done with it.  Not that hard.  I will give you $55 shipped for it right now.  Serious.  PM me.

[PukeSter]

That's fine. Guess I'm a collectard

Collectards! Collectards!

You really need to dial it down sometimes Gentlegamer. I think almost every single one of your posts contains the word "collectard".

Take it up with Ron Jeremy.

You know he was paid to say that, right?

I don't think he gives a crap about your collectard fetish.

[ObeyMyEgo]

I just don't understand why you don't just put up a damn price and be done with it.  Not that hard.  I will give you $55 shipped for it right now.  Serious.  PM me.

Already tarded it. Was never looking to put a sale price on it. Was looking to value it so I could make an even trade.

Mission accomplished. Thanks for the offer though.

[VenomMacbeth]

So, ya traded it for a loose Crusader of Centy?  That's pretty good, I think.  That's one I always wanted.  You ought to enjoy it if you like Zelda-esque games.

[ObeyMyEgo]

I have wanted crusader of centy for 7 years now. Feels nice to have it finally. Going to pop it in later and play some of that!

[CrackTiger]

Already tarded it.

Preservation quote.

[ToyMachine78]

Already tarded it.

Preservation quote.

I was gonna say... That pretty much sums up the entire thread.

[ObeyMyEgo]

Sigh. Guess no one else has ever made a typo from a phone before.

[LostFlunky]

Already tarded it.

Preservation quote.

Shoot - I thought that was a hip new way of saying "threw it in a slab, graded it, and am fapping before its altar".... as in "already tarded it"...

[Gentlegamer]

That's fine. Guess I'm a collectard

Collectards! Collectards!

You really need to dial it down sometimes Gentlegamer. I think almost every single one of your posts contains the word "collectard".

Take it up with Ron Jeremy.

You know he was paid to say that, right?

I don't think he gives a crap about your collectard fetish.

Are you impugning the integrity of Ron Jeremy?

[PukeSter]

That's fine. Guess I'm a collectard

Collectards! Collectards!

You really need to dial it down sometimes Gentlegamer. I think almost every single one of your posts contains the word "collectard".

Take it up with Ron Jeremy.

You know he was paid to say that, right?

I don't think he gives a crap about your collectard fetish.

Are you impugning the integrity of Ron Jeremy?

The workd's most prolific porn star has integrity? I didn't know that.

Did you know that Nulltard 's sister contacted him to make that video, and he offered to have sex with her after he was paid? Apparently he smelled really bad too.

[geise]

He smells like beef and cheese.  Good all around guy though.

Anyways it's sad you traded a nice Turbo game for some Feka rpg that is ridiculously prised.  Regardless I'd like to see the game in action.

[CrackTiger]

He smells like beef and cheese.  Good all around guy though.

Anyways it's sad you traded a nice Turbo game for some Feka rpg that is ridiculously prised.  Regardless I'd like to see the game in action.

He traded away a Feka port.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Did you know that Nulltard 's sister contacted him to make that video, and he offered to have sex with her after he was paid?

I saw her in the video and woulda made the same offer..... or skipped the offer and went straight to the forget-me-nows.

[CGQuarterly]

Fuck sealed games.

You didn't get any satisfaction knowing those games hadn't been touched or seen the light of day since they left the proverbial "factory"?  I can't be the only one.  It feels like fucking Christmas.

No, I got a lot of satisfaction from it.  It was awesome opening up a brand new game and playing it.  But the only way to get that feeling is to actually open it up and play it.  Letting it sit on the shelf sealed is pointless.

[CGQuarterly]

I have wanted crusader of centy for 7 years now. Feels nice to have it finally. Going to pop it in later and play some of that!

Careful, you'll put insertion marks on the cart.

[TurboXray]

I just wanting for someone to admit they're a game manual sniffer. I know you're out there.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Ha!  I sniff the smokey ones after letting 'em air out for a couple days to see if it was long enough or if I need to get out the activated charcoal.  Does that count?

[CrackTiger]

I don't need to actually sniff freshly unsealed games, but I do appreciate the strong scent of new "old" games.

[xcrement5x]

I just wanting for someone to admit they're a game manual sniffer. I know you're out there.

That is me!  But let me explain a bit...

When I was younger I would borrow games from a friend and he stored/played them all in the finished basement at his parent's house.  His Mom also did laundry in the basement, and it must have been right near the shelf where he kept everything, because all of his game manuals smelled like that odor you associate with clean laundry.  Every time I borrowed games from them and got them back to my little house I would open up the manual to smell that amazing scent. 

Now I want to find that fabric softener or whatever she used.

[TurboXray]

Ha!  I sniff the smokey ones after letting 'em air out for a couple days to see if it was long enough or if I need to get out the activated charcoal.  Does that count?

Well.. hmm. That depends. Are you sniffing them for utilitarian purposes or is it some sort of.. stimulating response? An inhalation of old memories flooding through your consciousness, the memorable essence of a lost time and place, folded into the-here-and-now; transcending the distance of time and space.. for just the b-r-i-e-f-e-s-t of moments. And the slow exhale of breath climbing over your teeth, dissipating back into the world.. as the residue of memories tingle and prick among the fading sensations of nostalgia. I dunno. Probably something like that, I would imagine.

xcrement5x: That's just weird...

[deubeul]

In France we call that "la madeleine de Proust", smells that make you travel back to best memories of childhood.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Well.. hmm. That depends. Are you sniffing them for utilitarian purposes or is it some sort of.. stimulating response?

Can it be both?

<< cue the brown chicken brown cow music >>

[VenomMacbeth]

Well.. hmm. That depends. Are you sniffing them for utilitarian purposes or is it some sort of.. stimulating response?

Can it be both?

<< cue the brown chicken brown cow music >>

Do video game manuals have that old book smell?  That's a good smell.

[wilykat]

Haven't had any old book smell. I think the smell comes from moisture causing slight musty smell on older paper.  Newer paper seems less likely to develop old smell.

If instruction book smelled like old book, I;d check the game very carefully for corroded contact or other damage.

[esteban]

In France we call that "la madeleine de Proust", smells that make you travel back to best memories of childhood.

Oui, oui, oui!

Whenever I smell onion soup, I am swept back to magical memories of playing Timeball/Blodia all night.

[TurboXray]

In France we call that "la madeleine de Proust", smells that make you travel back to best memories of childhood.

This is why French is awesome

Necromancer: For you, I think we can make that exception.



 I dunno. Maybe it's just this overwhelming sense of positive energy radiating from the recent turn of this thread, but I really feel it's time to bring Terence McKenna in this conversation: https://youtu.be/XlBzIecpxfE?t=3m5s

[esteban]

^ I would have suggested Alan Watts.

[blueraven]

Both work esteban.

...it could be the eye of the hurricane.

[ToyMachine78]

My wife sells used manuals on craigslist. All you manual sniffers HMU lol

[VenomMacbeth]

I dunno. Maybe it's just this overwhelming sense of positive energy radiating from the recent turn of this thread....

Right?  I was just about to remark on that.  It seems like there's been so much flaming & bitching clogging the threads these days.  This was a nice change of pace.  Thanks guys! ^-^  it definitely softens the blow of having to part with my heirlooms.

[johnnykonami]

I'll buy a sealed game if possible every time, but I open them always.  I admit they sometimes sit sealed on my shelf until I'm ready to play them.  But having everything in nice new condition is great, because I know I'll take care of it.  The used game market can be so depressing with all the messed up cartridge stickers, children's names scrawled in marker (or worse, see pic below), missing manuals, missing other stuff like posters, etc.  See my recent unboxing of Cosmotank, my mom found for me for Xmas.  Pretty cool to open a new GB game, got a poster which I'm gonna frame and hang up for cool game room decor.  I've already played it a couple times and I know it will stay in nice condition for as long as the sands of time will let it.  I just think keeping games sealed is a shame.  Of course you can emulate in many cases, but one thing I've found is with an unlimited pool of free games, you tend not to want to play any of them.  If you carefully acquire just the ones you really want one at a time, you will give them a little more love and attention.

I think everyone here is aware of the supply and demand issue concerning classic games.  There's a finite supply and keeping games sealed or worse (VGA graded) relegates them to the status of currency, functionally no different than a $50 or $100 bill, to be passed around and fetishized but never actually used for it's intended purpose.  It's a free market though, and if you buy em' sealed, you're free to display them that way.  I do think there's a degree of fetishism no matter what, I basically described that above.  But get the full use out of your purchase!  It can still be kept in nice condition after opening it.  And emulation isn't the answer for everything.  NEC emulation is pretty good, but I'm sure a few people could point out weird issues with certain games.  Saturn emulation blows.  N64 emulation blows.  Just sayin'.

[ObeyMyEgo]

I agree. Emulation blows. But ever drives use real hardware. No issues yet.

I will probably open my other dragon's curse and play it. I can't afford to pay 189 for a open complete copy.

As for my other sealed games. I plan on trading them for open copies of games I can play. The only game I will keep that is sealed is truxton. That game means a lot to me. It was the last game I played with my uncle before his passing.

[johnnykonami]

I can't believe DC is going for these prices. Market's outta control man.  It's a good game though, you should play it for sure.

[Alt-Nintega]

If you open every single sealed retro game out there, you are destroying rare relics and artifacts. In 100 years all you will see is crappy pos cartridges. They won't be anything special at all.

If you dig a hole in a desert in Egypt and pull out a shit load of Ancient Egyptian jewelry and you act like a moron saying no i'm gonna wear it or i'm gonna let my girlfriend wear it (most likely you don't have one). Instead of submitting that relic jewelry to museum, BUT NO!!! It must be worn, must be played with like a sack of nuts. Get over yourself, people will always collect rare sealed games and will always keep those artifacts SEALED.

Bottom line is, stop shitting on every member that joins who wants to collect rare sealed games because they already have unsealed versions of those same games.

[LostFlunky]

If you open every single sealed retro game out there, you are destroying rare relics and artifacts. In 100 years all you will see is crappy pos cartridges. They won't be anything special at all.

If you dig a hole in a desert in Egypt and pull out a shit load of Ancient Egyptian jewelry and you act like a moron saying no i'm gonna wear it or i'm gonna let my girlfriend wear it (most likely you don't have one). Instead of submitting that relic jewelry to museum, BUT NO!!! It must be worn, must be played with like a sack of nuts. Get over yourself, people will always collect rare sealed games and will always keep those artifacts SEALED.

Bottom line is, stop shitting on every member that joins who wants to collect rare sealed games because they already have unsealed versions of those same games.

I liked your earlier, funnier posts better.

[djolof]

If you open every single sealed retro game out there, you are destroying rare relics and artifacts. In 100 years all you will see is crappy pos cartridges. They won't be anything special at all.

If you dig a hole in a desert in Egypt and pull out a shit load of Ancient Egyptian jewelry and you act like a moron saying no i'm gonna wear it or i'm gonna let my girlfriend wear it (most likely you don't have one). Instead of submitting that relic jewelry to museum, BUT NO!!! It must be worn, must be played with like a sack of nuts. Get over yourself, people will always collect rare sealed games and will always keep those artifacts SEALED.

Bottom line is, stop shitting on every member that joins who wants to collect rare sealed games because they already have unsealed versions of those same games.

Tool, based on future market reports, I believe it's more likely people 100 years in the future will wear turbo grafx games as jewelry rather than actually playing any of the games. Thoughts?

[ToyMachine78]

If you open every single sealed retro game out there, you are destroying rare relics and artifacts. In 100 years all you will see is crappy pos cartridges. They won't be anything special at all.

If you dig a hole in a desert in Egypt and pull out a shit load of Ancient Egyptian jewelry and you act like a moron saying no i'm gonna wear it or i'm gonna let my girlfriend wear it (most likely you don't have one). Instead of submitting that relic jewelry to museum, BUT NO!!! It must be worn, must be played with like a sack of nuts. Get over yourself, people will always collect rare sealed games and will always keep those artifacts SEALED.

Bottom line is, stop shitting on every member that joins who wants to collect rare sealed games because they already have unsealed versions of those same games.

Artifacts? Market Reports? Lol Jesus... Give me a break. Instead of collectard, I guess you consider yourself an Antiquities Gaming Anthropologist/Antique Game Economist.

I can picture you in a thrift store examining games with a jewelers loop, and dusting them off with a paint brush lol

[TurboXray]

If you open every single sealed retro game out there, you are destroying rare relics and artifacts. In 100 years all you will see is crappy pos cartridges. They won't be anything special at all.

You do realize that nearly all games will have died the bit-rot death - compact disc or rom. It'll happen inside a sealed box just as much as a loose cart or disc. So what does it matter in 100 years???

 This is why emulation is important; it preserves this art form and a piece of culture. In the grand scheme of things, given that functionality is waayy more important than the physical display of the item, sealed copies contribute to nothing. The most important thing is the experience of playing the game, and that's what emulation strives to accomplish, even when people think an emulator is 100% - emulation authors are still striving for that last 1 to 2% accuracy. Clearly you haven't thought this through. Game experience > than a sealed game.

 The only reason you put so much importance on a sealed game, vs an opened game, is because of how important it makes you feel. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Psycho Punch]

Why are people replying seriously to Tool's obvious trolling?

Anyway, it is funny to think that in forums like NA people think they are "preserving" videogame history by just slapping a VGA box on a sealed game. They seriously think that their "investment" will last centuries if it's not opened and has a protective box with a gold sticker on it. Hell just look at sealed turbo games, where the plastic of the hucard sleeve eats the game away, imagine actual cartridges with full sized batteries and capacitors lol.

[BigusSchmuck]

Why are people replying seriously to Tool's obvious trolling?

Anyway, it is funny to think that in forums like NA people think they are "preserving" videogame history by just slapping a VGA box on a sealed game. They seriously think that their "investment" will last centuries if it's not opened and has a protective box with a gold sticker on it. Hell just look at sealed turbo games, where the plastic of the hucard sleeve eats the game away, imagine actual cartridges with full sized batteries and capacitors lol.

I guess people like their stuff smelling of fish?

[Alt-Nintega]

If you open every single sealed retro game out there, you are destroying rare relics and artifacts. In 100 years all you will see is crappy pos cartridges. They won't be anything special at all.

You do realize that nearly all games will have died the bit-rot death - compact disc or rom. It'll happen inside a sealed box just as much as a loose cart or disc. So what does it matter in 100 years???

 This is why emulation is important; it preserves this art form and a piece of culture. In the grand scheme of things, given that functionality is waayy more important than the physical display of the item, sealed copies contribute to nothing. The most important thing is the experience of playing the game, and that's what emulation strives to accomplish, even when people think an emulator is 100% - emulation authors are still striving for that last 1 to 2% accuracy. Clearly you haven't thought this through. Game experience > than a sealed game.

 The only reason you put so much importance on a sealed game, vs an opened game, is because of how important it makes you feel. Nothing more, nothing less.

no point to open a sealed Mario 3 when you have five used Mario 3 and your cousin has three more.

you make no point at all. I like that you attempted, it was the best reply so far.

[TurboXray]

I like that you attempted, it was the best reply so far.

Well, at least you could have given me a number score (say, out of 10). Possibly curve it, too.

[ToyMachine78]

If you open every single sealed retro game out there, you are destroying rare relics and artifacts. In 100 years all you will see is crappy pos cartridges. They won't be anything special at all.

You do realize that nearly all games will have died the bit-rot death - compact disc or rom. It'll happen inside a sealed box just as much as a loose cart or disc. So what does it matter in 100 years???

 This is why emulation is important; it preserves this art form and a piece of culture. In the grand scheme of things, given that functionality is waayy more important than the physical display of the item, sealed copies contribute to nothing. The most important thing is the experience of playing the game, and that's what emulation strives to accomplish, even when people think an emulator is 100% - emulation authors are still striving for that last 1 to 2% accuracy. Clearly you haven't thought this through. Game experience > than a sealed game.

 The only reason you put so much importance on a sealed game, vs an opened game, is because of how important it makes you feel. Nothing more, nothing less.

no point to open a sealed Mario 3 when you have five used Mario 3 and your cousin has three more.

you make no point at all. I like that you attempted, it was the best reply so far.

I don't have Mario 3. Can you send me one?

[Vimtoman]

This threads getting a bit "Baa"

Just get over it .

You do or you don't.