PCE, SNES and Genesis Screen Comparison.

[NightWolve]

Good ole Raiden, a reason to fire up the MAME emulator.

[Digi.k]

Namco you really should have pushed the pce further for this release... I so wanted this to be that 6-8mbit Namco game....Although I was NOT disappointed with the pce's interpretation of the music here.

Dragon Saber

Arcade	PC Engine

Arcade	PC Engine

Arcade	PC Engine

Arcade	PC Engine

[ccovell]

Namco and Taito were a little bit lazy in playing to the PCE's strengths, graphic fidelity being one of them.  You have to forgive Namco a little bit, though, as their system 2 arcade hardware (Splatterhouse, Dragon Saber, Ordyne, Bravoman...) had 8 bit-per-pixel (256-colour) graphic tiles, when most other hardware at the time (PCE, Genesis, SNES, Neo-Geo, CPS-1, Sega Arcade units) used 4bpp (16-colour) tiles.  They're obviously unportably lush.

[Digi.k]

Strider  Arcade VS PCE

arcade

pce


arcade

pce


arcade

pce


arcade

pce


arcade

pce

[touko]

Strider really needs a SGX version ;-)

[Digi.k]

EMERALD DRAGON

Super Famicom

pce


Super Famicom

pce

[esteban]

OK, this is great.

[Digi.k]

kikikaikai

famicom disk system

arcade

pce


arcade

pce


arcade

pce

[Digi.k]

operation wolf

arcade

pce


arcade

pce


arcade

pce

[esteban]

Still....


AWESOME.

[TR0N]

kikikaikai
arcade

pce


arcade

pce


arcade

pce

Interesting though you forgot the famicom disk system version.

[TurboXray]

Starting at 19minutes in, a longplay of three versions simultaneously (MD,PCE,Arcade).

[esteban]

Starting at 19minutes in, a longplay of three versions simultaneously (MD,PCE,Arcade).

When I'm on home wifi, this video will look a lot better.

[wildfruit]

Starting at 19minutes in, a longplay of three versions simultaneously (MD,PCE,Arcade).

When I'm on home wifi, this video will look a lot better.

Get on that 4G

[NecroPhile]

Super Famicom


pce

It's not as lopsided as the Forgotten World's sphinx comparison, but this one is pretty funny.

[esteban]

Starting at 19minutes in, a longplay of three versions simultaneously (MD,PCE,Arcade).

When I'm on home wifi, this video will look a lot better.

Get on that 4G

Subway in NYC. Sporadic cell service at best.

[Digi.k]

Bomberman 94

Mega Drive	PC Engine

[Digi.k]

Bonanza Bros

[bob]

operation wolf

arcade

pce


arcade

pce


arcade

pce

so i never knew until recently that operation wolf is NOT a light gun game in the arcade.
the machine gun is just a joystick that moves the reticle around the screen.
not sure why, but i thought that was interesting.

[esteban]

operation wolf

arcade

pce


arcade

pce


arcade

pce

so i never knew until recently that operation wolf is NOT a light gun game in the arcade.
the machine gun is just a joystick that moves the reticle around the screen.
not sure why, but i thought that was interesting.

I loved Operation Wolf and Cabal. The local skating rink had them BITD. Lots of fun for a few quarters. 

[Digi.k]

gonna be slightly off here but can I add an audio comparison?

Shin Megami Tensei

SNES audio - boss

pc engine audio - boss

SNES audio - battle

pc engine audio - battle

SNES audio - neutral

pc engine audio - neutral

[Digi.k]

more audio comparisons

DragonSlayer legend of Heroes

SNES - March of Heroes

pc engine - March of Heroes

Megadrive - March of Heroes

SNES - Town

pc engine - Town

Megadrive - Town

SNES - Battle

pc engine - Battle

megadrive - Battle

[Mathius]

AWE...SOME! Thankyouthankyouthankyou! 

[esteban]

Looks like I will have to make a page for audio comparisons.

[Mathius]

Looks like I will have to make a page for audio comparisons.

You better! 

[Artabasdos]

Bomberman 94

megadrive

pc engine


megadrive

pc engine


megadrive

pc engine

How did you capture those screenshots? I have Mega Bomberman in my MD II right now hooked up via RGB SCART, and it's WAY brighter than those screen. Anyway, the PCE version looks better colour wise from what I've seen.

[CrackTiger]

They're just clips from youtube videos turned into gifs.

Mega Bomberman is still very dark on real hardware, especially compared to the original. It's also missing some special effects, lots of animation and various assets and suffers from major slowdown that isn't in '94.

It was a quick, low effort by Westone, but the music is great and the gameplay is still good. Much more enjoyable than the Super Bomberman games.

[Artabasdos]

They're just clips from youtube videos turned into gifs.

Mega Bomberman is still very dark on real hardware, especially compared to the original. It's also missing some special effects, lots of animation and various assets and suffers from major slowdown that isn't in '94.

It was a quick, low effort by Westone, but the music is great and the gameplay is still good. Much more enjoyable than the Super Bomberman games.

Fair enough, but those screens aren't a fair representation tbh.

I love Super Bomberman!

[Mathius]

I actually just finished my annual re-reading of this thread and was going to post a question but then forgot about it. So thanks for the bump.

Is there any known method to take what Digi.K started and apply it in a way where the animations would better approximate what we would see animating on our screens? Like the quality of the earlier stills into fully smoothly animated clips with at least fairly accurate colors and resolutions?

[ccovell]

Like the quality of the earlier stills into fully smoothly animated clips with at least fairly accurate colors and resolutions?

Find animgif software with dynamic palettes and no dithering?

[Digi.k]

How did you capture those screenshots? I have Mega Bomberman in my MD II right now hooked up via RGB SCART, and it's WAY brighter than those screen. Anyway, the PCE version looks better colour wise from what I've seen.

I think the genny version was taken from a youtuber called Anto RetroGamer

[Artabasdos]

How did you capture those screenshots? I have Mega Bomberman in my MD II right now hooked up via RGB SCART, and it's WAY brighter than those screen. Anyway, the PCE version looks better colour wise from what I've seen.

I think the genny version was taken from a youtuber called Anto RetroGamer

Fair enough, but YouTube footage is a poor choice. I've uploaded captured Dreamcast footage before, and the colour was f***** up by Google's crappy encoding. Glad I stopped using Google's services tbh.

[Mathius]

Like the quality of the earlier stills into fully smoothly animated clips with at least fairly accurate colors and resolutions?

Find animgif software with dynamic palettes and no dithering?

I'm not sure what this question means, but, yes?

[CrackTiger]

They're just clips from youtube videos turned into gifs.

Mega Bomberman is still very dark on real hardware, especially compared to the original. It's also missing some special effects, lots of animation and various assets and suffers from major slowdown that isn't in '94.

It was a quick, low effort by Westone, but the music is great and the gameplay is still good. Much more enjoyable than the Super Bomberman games.

Fair enough, but those screens aren't a fair representation tbh.

I love Super Bomberman!

There's about 80 pages of screenshot comparisons, including Mega Bomberman/'94. Digi.k is now just posting video clips that compare aspects like (missing) effects, animation, assets, etc. It would be better for these to have a dedicated thread, along with a sound comparison thread, but this is just how it's going.

Mega Bomberman actually looks much worse with clear screenshots or on TV through RGB, as you can see that most of the shades and detail is missing. Those converted video clips create the illusion of shading which isn't actually there, while at the same time making it harder to make out all of the shading in '94.

https://www.myabandonware.com/game/mega-bomberman-88b
PC Engine versus Genesis

[Artabasdos]

They're just clips from youtube videos turned into gifs.

Mega Bomberman is still very dark on real hardware, especially compared to the original. It's also missing some special effects, lots of animation and various assets and suffers from major slowdown that isn't in '94.

It was a quick, low effort by Westone, but the music is great and the gameplay is still good. Much more enjoyable than the Super Bomberman games.

Fair enough, but those screens aren't a fair representation tbh.

I love Super Bomberman!

There's about 80 pages of screenshot comparisons, including Mega Bomberman/'94. Digi.k is now just posting video clips that compare aspects like (missing) effects, animation, assets, etc. It would be better for these to have a dedicated thread, along with a sound comparison thread, but this is just how it's going.

Mega Bomberman actually looks much worse with clear screenshots or on TV through RGB, as you can see that most of the shades and detail is missing. Those converted video clips create the illusion of shading which isn't actually there, while at the same time making it harder to make out all of the shading in '94.

https://www.myabandonware.com/game/mega-bomberman-88b
PC Engine versus Genesis

In no way am I debating that Mega Bomberman looks better than Bomberman '94. The PCE is so much more colourful. The MD port uses odd choices for colours (happens on quite a few MD games).

Talking of sound, I'm still surprised how much clear the voices in Street Fighter II on PCE are. Way better than on the Megadrive (though this is because the driver used on the MD port is crap). It has been fixed now, and sounds as good as the PCE version!

[Digi.k]

Wonderboy III Monster Lair

Megadrive

arcade

pc engine



megadrive

arcade

pc engine



megadrive

arcade

pc engine

[Digi.k]

Gradius aka Nemesis (I think the gamma might be off on this arcade vid)

arcade

pc engine


arcade

pc engine


arcade

pc engine

[Digi.k]

Street Fighter aka Fighting Street

pc engine

arcade

amiga ---- well..... I couldn't find this game on any other console



pc engine

arcade

amiga


pc engine

arcade

amiga



pc engine

arcade

amiga

[Michirin9801]

I'm unsure about this, but I think the Atari ST version of Street Fighter was better than the Amiga one, I mean, it still had the parallax scrolling (although it was tile-based) which the Amiga lacks, and I also think it ran a little faster?
Well, maybe the Amiga has better music to make up for that, either way, the port was rubbish, so that's not even remotely fair of a comparison...

[RNSpeed]

Street Fighter brings back good memories. Love that game

[esteban]

Street Fighter brings back good memories. Love that game

Yes, I have fond memories of Fighting Street...

Just kidding

Although, I am going to listen to the soundtrack now...

[Digi.k]

Gokuraku chuka taisen VS chuka taisen


Master System

arcade

pc engine

NES


Master System

arcade

pc engine

NES


Master System

arcade

pc engine

NES


Master System

arcade

pc engine

NES

[Mathius]

I had no idea Cloud Master had so much parallax! Guess I'll have to put it on my wish list finally. 

[Digi.k]

Tokimeki Memorial

pc engine

super famicom


pc engine

super famicom


pc engine

super famicom



pc engine

super famicom

[esteban]

SMOKING BUDDHA.

'nuff said.

[gilbert]

Though this thread is more for comparison among the "16-bit" consoles, I think it'd be fun to have comparisons shots from the Famicom and SMS versions of Chuunka Taisen also. (Currently it's only compared against the Arcade version anyway, since there is no other 16-bit console counterpart.)
IMO the Famicom and SMS are good conversions in their only rights considering the limitations of the platforms.

[esteban]

Though this thread is more for comparison among the "16-bit" consoles, I think it'd be fun to have comparisons shots from the Famicom and SMS versions of Chuunka Taisen also. (Currently it's only compared against the Arcade version anyway, since there is no other 16-bit console counterpart.)
IMO the Famicom and SMS are good conversions in their only rights considering the limitations of the platforms.

Absolutely.

We have made mention of SMS (and maybe Famicom?) in the past... I would love for Amiga, MSX, PC-88/PC-98, FM-Towns, X68, etc. etc. to be added, too, at some point in the future.

*far future*

But it would be nice.

Darius II had a SMS port that I didn't know about until this thread, for example:

https://www.tg-16.com/screenshot_comparisons_shmups.htm#Darius_2


But we still need someone to finish the final column (SMS) for this:

https://www.tg-16.com/screenshot_comparisons_rpg.htm#Dynastic_Hero

*one day*
*it will happen*

[NecroPhile]

I did one of Don Doko Don on PCE and NES, but I'm sure the link is long dead.

[Digi.k]

Cloud Master Chuka Taisen got an update

[gilbert]

Great!

It's interesting that even though the SMS version is slightly more colourful, the Famicom looks closer to the Arcade version than the SMS one. The PCE version is made intentionally different from the Arcade version, though not showing the score in a status bar may upset someone.