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Started by nat, 01/07/2008, 12:10 AM

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MissaFX

I agree with the few others who have posted.  HD-DVD has been a dying format and I think it will continue to die.  I suggest you play your HD-DVDs in normal DVD mode in a DVD player and consider getting a blu-ray in the future (or whatever else might come out).
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nat

So you guys think I shouldn't even bother with a hybrid player at this point? I guess that's not so bad since they are so fucking expensive.

Maybe I'll just buy a PS3 and use it as a Bluray player.

Kitsunexus

The thing about this debate is:

1. They're both about the same in quality and have nearly the same movies.

2. The PS3 is not only the best Blu-Ray player out there, but it is contained in the console, unlike the 360's external HD-DVD drive.

3. But I don't want to use my console to play DVDs, because that will KILL the console over time.

4. This is the fucking worst debate ever.
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nat

Quote from: Kitsunexus on 01/13/2008, 03:31 AM3. But I don't want to use my console to play DVDs, because that will KILL the console over time.
If I bought a PS3 as a Bluray player, I would most likely use it exclusively as such.

If there came a day when a totally killer omg must-own game came out for the PS3, I might buy it and even be able to play it as an added bonus.

Kitsunexus

Quote from: nat on 01/13/2008, 03:35 AMIf there came a day when a totally killer omg must-own game came out for the PS3, I might buy it and even be able to play it as an added bonus.
LMAO! I just woke the house up with my laughter! XD  :lol:
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MissaFX

Quote from: nat on 01/13/2008, 03:35 AMIf I bought a PS3 as a Bluray player, I would most likely use it exclusively as such.

If there came a day when a totally killer omg must-own game came out for the PS3, I might buy it and even be able to play it as an added bonus.
And the PS3 is going to be ultra friendly soon to transfer blu-ray movies to the PSP with 1.0 discs (2.0 discs have a PSP formatted movie already on them).  You could also play around with remote play between the psp and ps3.  Just don't get a PS3 for the games...sure it will have a few gems before it is replaced by the PS4, but I honestly don't know of 1 game for the PS3 which I would call a "must have" yet.
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nat

Quote from: Missa on 01/13/2008, 03:43 AMJust don't get a PS3 for the games...sure it will have a few gems before it is replaced by the PS4, but I honestly don't know of 1 game for the PS3 which I would call a "must have" yet.
Don't worry.... The only reason I would buy one at this stage is for the Bluray compatibility. Beyond that I have no motivation whatsoever to even think about it.

Kitsunexus

Quote from: Missa on 01/13/2008, 03:43 AMsure it will have a few gems before it is replaced by the PS4, but I honestly don't know of 1 game for the PS3 which I would call a "must have" yet.
I actually know of a couple, but they went to 360! Wah wah wah wah! :lol:
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SNKNostalgia

It is funny how the Bluray format will change over time which makes buying a stand alone player kinda crappy right now. With the PS3 you can download updates to do this. Nice alternative sales pitch for Sony..... Anyways, a lot of movie companies are veering away from HD-DVD exclusives. I really think Sony might make it on this format war. Sure, Beta Max was better in someways, but VHS won that one. Then there is compact disc, LaserDisc, VCD etc.... I reallly hate this bullshit. It is really a pissing contest on formats, even though they have been trying to do all this with certain Motion Picture Companies for one or the other. It just isn't really practical for the typical consumers who still don't mind watching standard DVDs.

nat

Quote from: SNKNostalgia on 01/13/2008, 11:22 AMwho still don't mind watching standard DVDs.
I had no problem with regular DVD until I got this HD set. Now the limitations of the format are very apparent. The lower resolution and film grain from the standard DVD are very noticeable on the HD. Maybe my standard DVD player just sucks balls (which is possible, it's a good few years old), but either way if I'm going to get a new player I might as well get one to support the new format.

SignOfZeta

I have a pretty mediocre SD television and I have no trouble seeing flaws in DVDs. DVD just sucks.
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MissaFX

Quote from: nat on 01/13/2008, 02:04 PM
Quote from: SNKNostalgia on 01/13/2008, 11:22 AMwho still don't mind watching standard DVDs.
I had no problem with regular DVD until I got this HD set. Now the limitations of the format are very apparent. The lower resolution and film grain from the standard DVD are very noticeable on the HD. Maybe my standard DVD player just sucks balls (which is possible, it's a good few years old), but either way if I'm going to get a new player I might as well get one to support the new format.
Here's the problem with HD-DVD it isn't the new format, it is a fleeting format.  I believe you would be better off spending your money on a DVD player with good image processing than to spend your money into a HD-DVD player where your money is going to this option rather than into the real nuts and bolts of the system.  And a copy of Einhander.  You need a copy of Einhander if you want to survive this format war.
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Keranu

Ever since I got a laserdisc player, I have no intention of buying any new movie formats :P .
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OldRover

I don't support either new format but I still have a very strong sense that HD-DVD will come out on top. In the meantime, I'm perfectly happy with my good ole regular DVDs and my nice normal television, playing movies with my PS2.
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MissaFX

Quote from: OldRover on 01/13/2008, 07:35 PMI don't support either new format but I still have a very strong sense that HD-DVD will come out on top.
Huh?  All I ever hear about HD-DVD is the "lastest studio which has abandoned it" type of news.  While blu-ray keeps adding studios.  Don't only 2 major studios now only make HD-DVD discs?
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Kitsunexus

It's kind of funny because I heard exactly the opposite. I think it's the he-said, she-said fanboysism running rampant again.

As far as I'm concerned, normal DVDs are fine.
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OldRover

Missa: that's just fanboyism run amok. Most studios who support the newer formats use HD-DVD because it costs less to produce discs that way. Only the really big studios support Bluray (Disney, for one) and only because they can afford it (some are hoping to ride the waves of the PS3...no one ever said that movie studios understood video game trends, and it's clear by this example that they don't). If you want to talk market share, then Bluray is currently in the lead with 70% market penetration, but this is due to the studios that support it being much larger. If you want to talk about the number of studios that support one side or the other, HD-DVD wins by about 6 to 1, but that doesn't have much effect on the number of releases available. Also, adult entertainment got a huge head start with HD-DVD (due to early lack of support by Bluray manufacturers), which has about 95% of that market...that's a very dominating slice of the pie (pun unintentional). Of course, neither format holds a candle to the existing DVD format and won't for some time to come. It's still too early to tell who will come out on top, but it seems the companies with the big bucks are pouring as much advertising as possible into Bluray promotions and it's starting to have an effect on the sheep. If the current advertising swarm keeps up, Bluray will probably win, much like VHS won over Betamax all those years ago. But the pricing is still going to have an impact; 20 years ago, Bluray might have won easily, but in our current Walmart-mentality society, people want things as cheap as possible and are going to take the less expensive route. HD-DVD is cheaper and likely always will be. So, with advantages and disadvantages on both sides of the fence, this is a war that's going to last a very long time.
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Ceti Alpha

QuoteMissa: that's just fanboyism run amok. Most studios who support the newer formats use HD-DVD because it costs less to produce discs that way. Only the really big studios support Bluray (Disney, for one) and only because they can afford it (some are hoping to ride the waves of the PS3...no one ever said that movie studios understood video game trends, and it's clear by this example that they don't). If you want to talk market share, then Bluray is currently in the lead with 70% market penetration, but this is due to the studios that support it being much larger. If you want to talk about the number of studios that support one side or the other, HD-DVD wins by about 6 to 1, but that doesn't have much effect on the number of releases available. Also, adult entertainment got a huge head start with HD-DVD (due to early lack of support by Bluray manufacturers), which has about 95% of that market...that's a very dominating slice of the pie (pun unintentional). Of course, neither format holds a candle to the existing DVD format and won't for some time to come. It's still too early to tell who will come out on top, but it seems the companies with the big bucks are pouring as much advertising as possible into Bluray promotions and it's starting to have an effect on the sheep. If the current advertising swarm keeps up, Bluray will probably win, much like VHS won over Betamax all those years ago. But the pricing is still going to have an impact; 20 years ago, Bluray might have won easily, but in our current Walmart-mentality society, people want things as cheap as possible and are going to take the less expensive route. HD-DVD is cheaper and likely always will be. So, with advantages and disadvantages on both sides of the fence, this is a war that's going to last a very long time.
Finally! lol. An honest to goodness objective view on the ridiculous HD-DVD vs Blu Ray format war. All this madness only hurts the consumer.
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guyjin

Actually, it hurts both formats, since I will not buy one until the war is over.

Ceti Alpha

QuoteActually, it hurts both formats, since I will not buy one until the war is over.
Indeed. Nor will I be buying.
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nat

This is why ideally I'd like a dual-format player. That way, I'll be covered regardless of what happens.

Too bad an anal raping comes free with every purchase.

Ceti Alpha

QuoteThis is why ideally I'd like a dual-format player. That way, I'll be covered regardless of what happens.

Too bad an anal raping comes free with every purchase.
Haha! The anal raping isn't fair.  [-(
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guyjin

Quote from: nat on 01/14/2008, 11:03 AMThis is why ideally I'd like a dual-format player. That way, I'll be covered regardless of what happens.

Too bad an anal raping comes free with every purchase.
Well, you have to think of it from the manufacturer's point of view. There are probably redundant components in both that can't be shared, since they work in different ways. You're paying them for 2 players crammed into one case.

Nazi NecroPhile

Quote from: nat on 01/14/2008, 11:03 AMThis is why ideally I'd like a dual-format player. That way, I'll be covered regardless of what happens.

Too bad an anal raping comes free with every purchase.
Except for computer drives, oddly enough.  LG sells a combo drive that can read HD-DVD and can read/write Blu-Ray, DVD, and CD; all for only $300.  Not a bad price for such a versatile drive, especially considering it's one of the first of its type; the only problem being that manufacturer's will decide to charge an extra $500 to put it in a pretty box to put next to your television.
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guyjin

Getting raw data onto/off of a disc is one thing; turning it into pretty, hi-def video is quite another.

Nazi NecroPhile

Quote from: guyjin on 01/14/2008, 11:42 AMGetting raw data onto/off of a disc is one thing; turning it into pretty, hi-def video is quite another.
True, decoding hardware isn't free, nor is it exorbitantly expensive (look at Oppo's top notch DVD players for proof).
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CrackTiger

Quote from: Kitsunexus on 01/12/2008, 10:05 PM
Quote from: GUTS on 01/12/2008, 10:04 PMIt's every single copy unfortunately as far as I know.
Truth. :(
I tried it out last night and it is indeed Strider 2. The crappy part is that I bought it as a loose disc described as the 'bonus disc containing the arcade original' that was supposed to have been 'tested'. :(
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Kitsunexus

Quote from: guest on 01/15/2008, 08:09 AM
Quote from: Kitsunexus on 01/12/2008, 10:05 PM
Quote from: GUTS on 01/12/2008, 10:04 PMIt's every single copy unfortunately as far as I know.
Truth. :(
I tried it out last night and it is indeed Strider 2. The crappy part is that I bought it as a loose disc described as the 'bonus disc containing the arcade original' that was supposed to have been 'tested'. :(
If you don't want it, I might buy it from you, depending on how much you'd sell it for + shipping. PM me! ^_^
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nat

I need a memory card for my PS. Anyone got an extra they want to sell me?

OldRover

I might have a spare one kicking around somewhere.
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nat

Let me know if you find it and what you want for it.