PSP vs. DS

SignOfZeta · 01/27/2008, 08:12 PM

Quote from: OldRover on 01/27/2008, 04:47 PMPeople, we can nitpick over specific examples all day long and it doesn't make a shits bits worth of difference. Fact is that I've yet to see a PSP game so "uber-great!!!" that I just have to buy it. The games look no better than DS games, irregardless of 2D or 3D.

And frankly, I rarely saw a huge difference between the PS1 and the DC. The DC had an advantage sometimes but for the most part, the games looked pretty damn similar. But hey, excuse me for not noticing the difference of 1k more polys per second on the DC.

Yeah dude, I think you are blind or something. The Dreamcast is a hundred times more powerful that the PS1. The DC was the first system to have 3D games I actually liked because I could actually tell WTF I was looking at.

Hell, you can even run PS1 games on the DC under Bleemcast and see a huge difference in quality, and that's just updating the resolution and texture smoothing. The poly count is the same since its still a PS game.

Shenmue on PS1? Yeah, I don't think so.

nat · 01/27/2008, 09:10 PM

Haha, yeah, the DC is definitely much closer to the PS2 graphically than the PS1. I refuse to touch 99% of the 3D games on the PS1 because those first generation polygons are ass-ugly. I wish we could erase that era of gaming from history. The Nintendo 64 was a little better but not much. I still stear clear of most of that shit.

The DC on the other hand completely rules. I love it.

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 01/27/2008, 08:12 PMShenmue on PS1? Yeah, I don't think so.

Not even close...

GUTS · 01/27/2008, 11:13 PM

Oh yes we're all Dreamcast/PSP fanboys because we can see the difference in graphics between them and inferior systems, very astute observation there.

Keranu · 01/27/2008, 11:38 PM

I agree with nod where I don't think PSP games look majorly better or anything, even though I really haven't seen enough to give a good judgement. They both look like 32-bit era graphics except better to me.

OldRover · 01/28/2008, 12:34 AM

GUTS: Die.

MissaFX · 01/28/2008, 01:11 AM

Quote from: GUTS on 01/27/2008, 11:13 PMOh yes we're all Dreamcast/PSP fanboys because we can see the difference in graphics between them and inferior systems, very astute observation there.

Preach on brotha'

Kitsunexus · 01/28/2008, 02:20 AM

Quote from: GUTS on 01/27/2008, 11:13 PMOh yes we're all Dreamcast/PSP fanboys because we can see the difference in graphics between them and inferior systems, very astute observation there.

Rock the fuck on! \m/

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OldRover · 01/28/2008, 06:52 AM

Oh yes GUTS, you are so right. I just ran out and bought a DC and played THE MOST AWESOMENESS GAMES EVAR!! I though I was playing a PS3, those games were so freakin cool. And while I was out, I got myself a PSP too. And see, while playing some of the most innovative games ever made, I was so convinced that I was sitting inside the console, the insane graphics just sucked me right in! WOW! You were so right!!!!!! Like ZOMG how could I have been so blind!

...and if you believe a word of what I just said, you're a complete tool.

Ceti Alpha · 01/28/2008, 09:34 AM

QuoteI agree with nod where I don't think PSP games look majorly better or anything, even though I really haven't seen enough to give a good judgement. They both look like 32-bit era graphics except better to me.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I see. A slight improvement over PS1 which was pretty terrible. I agree with nat in not having much nostalgia for that era in gaming. Aside from James Bond:Golden Eye on the N64 and Tomb Raider on the PS1. Oh I did play some Soccer on the N64; sports games improved significantly. Oh and I played Resident Evil for about a week straight once. That's it. That is the extent of my gaming in that era, besides probably plugging in my old TG-16 once in a while - if I still even had it at that time.

heh.

nat · 01/28/2008, 11:16 AM

My TG-16 and Genesis got me through that dark stage of video gaming. I didn't buy another new console after the 16-bit era until the GameCube. I would've bought a Dreamcast when they came out but they were too expensive-- I got a GC first.

nectarsis · 01/28/2008, 12:09 PM

I actually own both theDS, and the PSP. I love both as both have many good games. I agree the PSP does have a bunch of ports, but some of those are GREAT. I am currently playing Disgaea on the PSP, and the new Advance Wars on the DS. The thing that bothers me is that sooooooo many people think that the DSis sooooo inovative just because of the touch screen. Yes it is a great idea, but underutalized on many games, and just tacked on for show in a lot of others. I buy systems for games, and both systems do have a lot of good games.

BTW..for those who feel the PSP has PS1 level graphics, you need to put some real time in with the system. Final Fantasy Crisis Core, Disgaea, Jeanna D'Arc, Brave Story....all gourgeous. There are MASSIVE differences in graphics between the two (not that is the end all be all).

My DS gets almost equal play time vs. my PSP. I love both, and as long as games I want to play come out, I buy them regardless of system

Nazi NecroPhile · 01/28/2008, 12:10 PM

Quote from: The Old Rover on 01/28/2008, 06:52 AM...and if you believe a word of what I just said, you're a complete tool.

I am a complete and utter tool, yet I still don't believe you.

GUTS · 01/28/2008, 02:29 PM

If you can't tell the difference graphically between something like Crisis Core (like Nectarsis mentioned) and ANY 3D DS game then you're just plain retarded, end of story. There's not even an argument there, you're just a fucking moron.

OldRover · 01/28/2008, 09:33 PM

Today I saw a used DC in a Play n Trade for $40...almost picked it up, as I've been meaning to get one. But alas, they didn't have any games I wanted for it, so I had to pass for now.

GUTS, I just enjoy pushing your buttons. You're bloody easy to get riled up.

Ceti Alpha · 01/28/2008, 10:52 PM

QuoteMy TG-16 and Genesis got me through that dark stage of video gaming. I didn't buy another new console after the 16-bit era until the GameCube. I would've bought a Dreamcast when they came out but they were too expensive-- I got a GC first.

Yup. I'd love to see some of these youngsters handle games like Galaga. -

Young gamer "This game sucks!"

Me Ok, well make it past level 3 and we'll talk.

I love some of the new stuff that's out there, don't get me wrong; but man it just ain't the same. But I guess people will be saying that when holodecks come out - "Man, remember when you had to use a controller? That was real gaming." - And maybe they'd be right.

OldRover · 01/28/2008, 11:22 PM

Ironically, I saw a young kid (8 or so years old) attempting to play Galaga on one of those TV Games things today at one of the KB stores we service. The kid couldn't even pass the first stage; the game owned him so hard it wasn't even funny. And he tried three times...finally on the last try he was able to pass the first stage but then got immediately creamed on the second. He got pissed, dropped the controller, and left the store all mad. Classic.

MissaFX · 01/29/2008, 01:09 AM

Quote from: ceti alphaI love some of the new stuff that's out there, don't get me wrong; but man it just ain't the same. But I guess people will be saying that when holodecks come out - "Man, remember when you had to use a controller? That was real gaming." - And maybe they'd be right.

My holodeck will have controllers, they will just be wireless for the first time in my life. I'll be saying, "Hey, remember how many times you have "died" because you pulled out the controller? Well, I've got wireless baby!"

They'll probably just blink at me too.

Ceti Alpha · 01/29/2008, 01:13 AM

QuoteIronically, I saw a young kid (8 or so years old) attempting to play Galaga on one of those TV Games things today at one of the KB stores we service. The kid couldn't even pass the first stage; the game owned him so hard it wasn't even funny. And he tried three times...finally on the last try he was able to pass the first stage but then got immediately creamed on the second. He got pissed, dropped the controller, and left the store all mad. Classic. Applause

haha! No way!!!

That is just plain old funny right there. Me and my brother were just the other night chatting about video games and the new generation. We imagined kids making fun of Galaxian and Galaga, but then challenging them to even make it to stage 3. lol.

I just can't believe you actually witnessed it!!! haha

QuoteMy holodeck will have controllers, they will just be wireless for the first time in my life. I'll be saying, "Hey, remember how many times you have "died" because you pulled out the controller? Well, I've got wireless baby!"

They'll probably just blink at me too.

d'oh!

hehe.

OldRover · 01/29/2008, 01:27 AM

Quote from: ceti alpha on 01/29/2008, 01:13 AM haha! No way!!!

That is just plain old funny right there. Me and my brother were just the other night chatting about video games and the new generation. We imagined kids making fun of Galaxian and Galaga, but then challenging them to even make it to stage 3. lol.

I just can't believe you actually witnessed it!!! haha

Similar acts of hilarity aren't uncommon to us. Since we visit so many KB stores a week, we get to see all kinds of fun stuff like this. You name it, and kids get owned by it. Watching them play Pac Man is always the funniest. Some stores even had Mortal Kombat TV games set up at one point, and none of those little dweebs could get past the first opponent.

The best times are always when parents come in with their kids, and their parents completely kick their kids' asses at the old games. I've even seen mothers clean house in Pac Man, doing like twelve levels straight before finally getting hit by a ghost.

Ceti Alpha · 01/29/2008, 05:30 PM

QuoteThe best times are always when parents come in with their kids, and their parents completely kick their kids' asses at the old games. I've even seen mothers clean house in Pac Man, doing like twelve levels straight before finally getting hit by a ghost.

Cool.

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PSP vs. DS