TurboPlay Magazine Archives (04.02.12)

[esteban]

Here is EGM's 1993 Buyer's Guide (.pdf) (I'm just learning how to use the OCR software, so the text embedded in the .pdf is pretty garbled...)

See which TG-16 titles earned some respect from EGM editors (hint: Cosmic Fantasy 2, Air Zonk, Gate of Thunder, etc.). Also, inspect the enigmatic (and unreleased) Bonk RPG as well as the interesting category created for Dragon Knight 3 (PCE). The most interesting category? Well, that would have to be the "BEST VIDEO GAME RUMOR" (Street Fighter II as a CD-ROM for TG-CD and Sega CD! Imagine the loading times!) You might also enjoy the prescient article entitled "CDs—The Future of Video Gaming" amongst other TG-16 goodies.

If you want to get high-resolution .jpg files of individual pages, use the .pdf as a reference to change the PAGE NUMBER in the link below:

https://archives.tg-16.com/EGM/EGM_BG_1993_001.jpg  (for the cover "page 001")

	Now available (12.11.11) for your pleasure: Excellent Holiday Catalog (1993, CAPTRON / G&G Stores) • $3.00 OFF • Dungeon Explorer II
	Now available (01.29.09) for your pleasure: BONK'S REVENGE WALLPAPER (iPhone / iPod Touch) • 8 Wallpaper designs to choose from • Show some love for the Chikkuns! HAPPY NEW YEAR 1993! • Electronic Games Magazine (January 1993) • Zonk, Link (!!!), Sonic, Chun Li and company drinking champagne • TG-16 Stocking Stuffer: Neon Spandex Fingerless Gloves • Multimedia Game of the Year - Dragon Slayer: Legend of Heroes (SCD) Any suggestions on how I can offer wallpaper for other platforms is appreciated... Do you guys think that Dragon Slayer is superior to Ys: Book I & II, as the editors of EG felt back in 1993? Dragon Slayer was up against Night Trap (Sega CD) and Loom (PC). I dug Loom (it was OK), and I played Night Trap (after the initial novelty wore off, it was pretty tedious), so DS should have won hands down. Of course, I doubt that the readers voted accordingly. What do you think? Browse the site: TurboPlay Magazine Archives
	Now available (04.27.08) for your viewing pleasure: BONK FOR PRESIDENT IN '92 • B.O.N.K. = A new political party, Believe in Our Nation's Kids. • Software Etc. Coupons! • REVIEWS: It Came From the Desert, Ballistix • Overhauled Man 3 • Rayxanber III • "Dragons & Wizards... Oh My!" -- Ys III for SNES • Working Designs begins localization of Cosmic Fantasy 2 Bonk for President is goofy stuff, I wonder what you'd get if you wrote to the Campaign Headquarters... a bumpersticker, perhaps? To think that the localization of CF2 began 16 years ago this month...
	Now available (03.29.08) for your viewing pleasure: The Ides of March '92 - '94 • 1993: Sega CD + Blackhole Assault + Kris Kross versus the venerable TurboDuo + Dragon Slayer + Lords of Thunder. • 1993: Working Designs to bring SNK's World Heroes and King of the Monsters to U.S.! • 1993: Air Zonk Runner-up for shoot-em-up of the year (Readers' Choice Awards) • 1993: Lords of Thunder scores 5/5 • 1993: Bomberman '93 scores 4/5 • 1993: Time Cruise scores 4/5 • 1994: Terraforming (SCD): "Now available, the trick shooter designed by Syd Mead." • 1994: Dynastic Hero expected in March '94, Godzilla expected second quarter '94. The news about Working Design trying to bring NeoGeo titles to North America is neat, especially because King of the Monsters never made it to an NEC console. Plus, I didn't remember the critics having such a positive reaction towards Lords of Thunder, Time Cruise, Bomberman '93 and Air Zonk...
	03.16.08: Electronics Boutique: December 1993 Catalog SACK O' SUPER SOFTWARE (Disclaimer: That is EB's phrase, not my own!) • Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon & Link: The Faces of Evil (CD-i) • Bonk 3, Dungeon Explorer II, John Madden • Turbo Duo INTELLIGENT LINK for $129.99! Feel free to share your thoughts in this thread. There are links to trade shows where TTi was showing the Intelligent Link.
	03.08.08: 16 years ago... March 1992, in TurboGrafx-16 History • Far East of Eden 2 (Tengai Makyo II: Manjimaru) coming to America?! • Gate of Thunder in a "Special Super Turbo CD Preview." • Parodius is billed as the "World's first 8 meg Hucard!" • Tatsujin, known as Truxton to Sega Genesis fans... • Valis advertisement targets teenyboppers! • Exile for Sega Genesis (advertisement). • "Junction is an action game masterpiece!" Feel free to share your thoughts in this thread. Apparently the person doing the blurbs on import games liked shoot-em-ups...
	02.20.08: 16 years ago... February 1992, in TurboGrafx-16 History • NEC considering 4-in-1 TV SPORTS compilation as pack-in CD-ROM for TurboDuo! • REVIEW: Night Creatures scores 3/5 in GamePro. How? • REVIEW: Addams Family earns 4/5 in GamePro. • ICOM SIMULATIONS developing Beyond Shadowgate for TurboDuo!

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OLD STUFF:
Hey, I'm only three years late. There are still a lot of things that I need to fix / add / finalize, but I had to make a post before going to sleep.

I'll keep it brief:
1. If you have any suggestions, or spot any errors, please tell me.
2. I wrote a lot of stuff 2-5 years ago... so some things need to be corrected.
3. IE7 is a pain in the ass. I can't get the left & right columns to look pretty.
4. For some folks, the "database" will take a long time to load in your browser. Be patient.
5. Once database is loaded, you can avoid re-loading it again by keeping it in its own window and simply opening new tabs / windows in your browser to view subsequent pages / scans.

Short term:
Yes, I have a ton of new page scans in the pipeline. They should trickle out on a regular basis.
I have lots of cute images to add to the pages to counteract all the text.

Thanks

[MissaFX]

The 2nd link needs to be fixed.

[MurderDate]

               
  FUCK YES!!!!!!!!!!!! 

[Turbo D]

very nice   

[guyjin]

jawsome!

[nat]

Short term:
Yes, I have a ton of new page scans in the pipeline. They should trickle out on a regular basis.

So, over the next 6 to 10 decades?

In all seriousness though, I'm glad something motivated you to make a move on that. It almost excuses your 6 month hiatus from the forums.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Very nice indeed. 

What do you think the ideal size should be for page scans? I want to prepare for the next generation (or three) of fancy, widescreen monitors.

On my 19" 4:3 1280x1024 monitor, they're all quite legible.  The last one is large enough for the text to be readable, but the screen shots are a bit on the small side; the first two are better, though the text is probably too big and some panning is required.  I'd go with the wide one, since wide screen monitors are becoming more and more common, and it's preferable to see pages side by side when the graphics spanned both pages like that.

[Arjak]

From TurboPlay, Issue 10, Cosmic Fantasy 2 section of the Foreign Games article.

...oh, and you get the girl, too!

From the context of the article, I can safely assume that they are talking about Laura. Imagine what an uproar this article may have almost caused!

I certainly would have felt quite upset, not to mention cheated.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Maybe you get her corpse.  Does that count?

[T2KFreeker]

Nice. I can check out the past now. I used to have alot of these mags back in the day. Don't know what the Hell ever happened to them though.

[MurderDate]

esteban - I think I like B.  It has more of a magazine feel.

[esteban]

WTF?

i thought Adams Family SUCKED

Yeah, I don't understand how Addams Family and Night Creatures scored as well as they did. I'm not trying to bash the games, but....

Short term:
Yes, I have a ton of new page scans in the pipeline. They should trickle out on a regular basis.

So, over the next 6 to 10 decades?

In all seriousness though, I'm glad something motivated you to make a move on that. It almost excuses your 6 month hiatus from the forums.

Hahahahhahahaha!

I've actually made a commitment to regularly update the magazine stuff. I have stuff that folks sent me over three years ago. In fact, I was over at Turbo2K not long ago, randomly looking at the old forums, and one of these folks was bummed that his scans were never put up on the web. I CAN'T LET HIM DOWN! Better late than never .

Plus, I have some stuff that I've done over the years, just waiting to be seasoned, garnished and uploaded.

esteban - I think I think B.  It has more of a magazine feel.

I totally agree, but I'd like to hear what other folks think as well!

Very nice indeed. 

What do you think the ideal size should be for page scans? I want to prepare for the next generation (or three) of fancy, widescreen monitors.

On my 19" 4:3 1280x1024 monitor, they're all quite legible.  The last one is large enough for the text to be readable, but the screen shots are a bit on the small side; the first two are better, though the text is probably too big and some panning is required.  I'd go with the wide one, since wide screen monitors are becoming more and more common, and it's preferable to see pages side by side when the graphics spanned both pages like that.

Damn, we have lazy bastards here. Necromancer, you're the only one to give me the tech specs I was looking for

I agree: when a layout spanned two (or more) pages, the page scans should re-capture that same layout. I don't care if the image is super-wide,  the benefits outweigh the deficits.

Aside: I thought you folks would have started talking about the TV SPORTS 4-in-1 pack-in for the TurboDuo by now...

[nat]

Thank god that never saw the light of day.

[esteban]

Thank god that never saw the light of day.

Call me a masochist, but I would have wanted to see this released, later, as a "Sports Package" including extra pads and a turbotap. No one would have bought it, of course, but it would have been a novelty .

I would still like to play the Baseball game... given time to polish it, it might have been an OK game.

[guyjin]

the baseball game would probably just have been a renaming of world class baseball.
(were there any other baseball games for the pce/turbo?)

[nat]

There are shitload for the PCE.

I have one, called "Pro World Stadium." It's by Namco and it's actually the exact same same game as RBI Baseball for the NES (also by Namco). The only difference is they added a texture to the field so it's not just a solid green like in the NES version.

Actually, there might be other differences, but that's the only one that stands out. Keeping in mind that the PCE/Turbo can just about run NES code natively on it's CPU, there's a good chance Pro World Stadium isn't even a reprogramming of RBI Baseball. Most of the graphics are NES-par fare. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if they just compiler-optimized the NES code for the Turbo's CPU and threw it on a HuCard.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Aside: I thought you folks would have started talking about the TV SPORTS 4-in-1 pack-in for the TurboDuo by now...

It may have helped sales a bit, as they could've swapped out Ys I & II for this thing and picked up a few anti-RPG gamers.  Shitty trade off, but sports games sold well for the Genny.

the baseball game would probably just have been a renaming of world class baseball.

I wouldn't think so, since the game in the review looks quite different from World Class Baseball.  It would've made more sense for them to finish up TV Sports Baseball than it would've for them to recycle one of Hudson's games.

[Sinistron]

Sweet- there's my name in Turboplay #9 as a runner-up winner of Bonk's Revenge for killing that crossword puzzle (I remember there being something wrong with that puzzle)...

James Sinisi, Woodhaven, New York

https://archives.tg-16.com/archive-two/TP-09-29.jpg

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Sweet- there's my name in Turboplay #9 as a runner-up winner of Bonk's Revenge for killing that crossword puzzle (I remember there being something wrong with that puzzle)...

Awesome, but what free game did you get?

[Sinistron]

it's in there necro- you quoted it...

Bonk's Revenge-
what I don't remember is if they gave me that game automatically or if they let me pick it...
Either way I received it for the first time through that contest... 

[Nazi NecroPhile]

My reading comprehension skills are unsurpassed.  Please pass the gin. 

[esteban]

Aside: I thought you folks would have started talking about the TV SPORTS 4-in-1 pack-in for the TurboDuo by now...

It may have helped sales a bit, as they could've swapped out Ys I & II for this thing and picked up a few anti-RPG gamers.  Shitty trade off, but sports games sold well for the Genny.

the baseball game would probably just have been a renaming of world class baseball.

I wouldn't think so, since the game in the review looks quite different from World Class Baseball.  It would've made more sense for them to finish up TV Sports Baseball than it would've for them to recycle one of Hudson's games.

Necro, thanks for pointing out to guyjin that there was, indeed, a TV SPORTS Baseball, but it was never released. There was a person here... he was on jluedke's podcast "The Drunken Gamers"... who was a reviewer back in the day. IIRC, he played the TV Sports Baseball game (either as an eprom or at a trade show) and said the version he saw still had some rough parts. The published review describes rough patches as well.

Like I said, I think TV SPORTS Baseball could have been decent.

[esteban]

Sweet- there's my name in Turboplay #9 as a runner-up winner of Bonk's Revenge for killing that crossword puzzle (I remember there being something wrong with that puzzle)...

James Sinisi, Woodhaven, New York

https://archives.tg-16.com/archive-two/TP-09-29.jpg

HOW THE HELL DID I MISS THIS YESTERDAY!

Awesome .

Check out Space Harrier (pop-up cardboard) and Emperor Megas (painted pasta). Yeah, we ruled.

[nat]

That Space Harrier piece is killer.

[Sinistron]

man those issues get the memories flooding!

[MurderDate]

that Space Harrier pic is AWESOME !!

[esteban]

To be honest, that 12-year-old's drawing of Heisen from Valis II is the one that kicks ass!

Anyway, my brother found something a few weeks ago that relates to this discussion. The next time I see him, I'll have to scan it and share it with you. It's pretty embarrassing, but...

[MurderDate]

ah estes, I bet it's gonna rock.  I loved reading the story about you entering that art contest in the Turo Play mag..  that was when I wrote you that fan letter that time..  oooh those were the days.

[esteban]

OK, some of you folks might be interested in what was happening 16 years ago... March 1992, in TG-16 history. I think there is bunch of little things that will make it worth your time.

I updated the original post in this thread. I'll use this thread to announce significant updates.

ah estes, I bet it's gonna rock.  I loved reading the story about you entering that art contest in the Turo Play mag..  that was when I wrote you that fan letter that time..  oooh those were the days.

Haahhahaha. Those were the days, but this is a pretty darn embarrassing day. I still haven't been courageous enough to talk about it here. I will, eventually, though.

[16-bit]

Is there a particular scanner that you would suggest for magazine scanning?

[esteban]

Is there a particular scanner that you would suggest for magazine scanning?

I think that any scanner (I use a pretty low-priced model in the 100-150$ range?) will do fine. I've used Canon and Epson, mostly, although I've also used some total crap models (MicroTek?). The key thing is to make sure the glass plate (platen) is clean (no grease or lint or scratches) and to set the resolution at a decent level. I've read conflicting information about the "ideal" resolution to scan at, but I suggest 300dpi because then I can enlarge parts of a page to get a really good look at something.

Oh, what would you want to look at closely? Well, how about this? *

That is as big as I could get that image from a 300 dpi scan. Now, 300 dpi creates friggin' huge files, but, the way things are going, in a few years, I'll put even better scans on the site and I don't want to have to re-scan everything.

* Paranoia Dragon had been mentioning this game a lot over the past few years, but I had no idea what he was talking about until I saw this a few days ago. So, yes, this one's for you PD. I really wish this game was released, I fantasize that Riftwar Saga was inspired by Archon (look at the second screenshot to see what I mean!)

[ParanoiaDragon]

Yeah, Riftwar Saga is one of my games that I wish would've been finished.  Who knows, maybe it was, but, they ran out of money to publish it

[esteban]

Yeah, Riftwar Saga is one of my games that I wish would've been finished.  Who knows, maybe it was, but, they ran out of money to publish it

Totally. Last night I did a quick search, but I couldn't find any info the developer "Kid's Source". Have you ever heard of them? I don't remember old magazines referencing them, but, then again, I haven't been looking for them.

I am totally going to check out the Riftwar series of books that this game was going to be based on... maybe I'll figure out what the screenshots are about.

[ParanoiaDragon]

I too have try'd doing searches for Kid's Source to no avail.  They up & disapeared before even releasing one game!

[esteban]

Hi folks, I updated the original post in this thread.

New stuff: Electronics Boutique: December 1993. Bonk 3 and Intelligent Link

I too have try'd doing searches for Kid's Source to no avail.  They up & disapeared before even releasing one game!

Seriously! I think I'll have to keep my eyes open for references to "Kid's Source" in old magazines... I'm hoping to find a few blurbs that might reveal where they were based, what titles (if any) they were working on, etc.

If you see anything, share the news

[ParanoiaDragon]

Hi folks, I updated the original post in this thread.

New stuff: Electronics Boutique: December 1993. Bonk 3 and Intelligent Link

I too have try'd doing searches for Kid's Source to no avail.  They up & disapeared before even releasing one game!

Seriously! I think I'll have to keep my eyes open for references to "Kid's Source" in old magazines... I'm hoping to find a few blurbs that might reveal where they were based, what titles (if any) they were working on, etc.

If you see anything, share the news

Will do

[esteban]

Hi folks, I updated the original post in this thread.

New stuff: Ides of March '92-'94. A bunch of stuff

[nat]

 

Great feature, as always.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Great stuff indeed; many thanks dude.

[esteban]

Thanks nat & NecroPhile

1. I wonder what happened to Working Designs and their plan to bring World Heroes 2 and King of the Monsters to TurboDuo?
I don't imagine things got very far, but Paranoid_Dragon (or someone else?) mentioned that an Arcade Card + ACD combo pack was being considered.
Unfortunately, I don't think WH2 or KotM would have been enough of a draw....

2. If you were to show someone the March '93 Electronics Boutique Catalog and asked them to pick SegaCD vs. TurboDuo.... well, it would have been a no-brainer! It's not a fair comparison, of course, but judging solely on the catalog... well, the SegaCD is looking pretty damn weak. The DUO's library may have been small, but at least it had a bunch of games that you would want to play

$60 for INXS Make My Video. Awesome. And I could have totally mocked SegaCD's other offerings (Blackhole Assault!), but I didn't want to bash Sega any further...

[CrackTiger]

1. I wonder what happened to Working Designs and their plan to bring World Heroes 2 and King of the Monsters to TurboDuo?

I thought that Working Designs was only working on World Heroes 1, not WH2?

[SignOfZeta]

1. I wonder what happened to Working Designs and their plan to bring World Heroes 2 and King of the Monsters to TurboDuo?

I thought that Working Designs was only working on World Heroes 1, not WH2?

Its important to understand that Vic Ireland has eyes bigger than his stomach (in other words, pretty damn big eyes). This is the guy who after being dissed by SoA said he was going to release Lunar 3 for PS. What's that you say? 10 years later and still there is no such thing as Lunar 3 in Japanese or English? Yeah, exactly. Could he have meant Grandia? Well, maybe, but SCEA released that so either way he was full of it.

Basically I'm saying don't hold your breath for Gaijinworks's 360 version of Tengai Mayou Zira.

[esteban]

1. I wonder what happened to Working Designs and their plan to bring World Heroes 2 and King of the Monsters to TurboDuo?

I thought that Working Designs was only working on World Heroes 1, not WH2?

Oh, absolutely, but I went beyond the magazine and tried to anticipate what WD might have actually been able to bring over. Now, while even WD's own website listed WH1, we know that only WH2 was released...

Also, WD's own website listed King of the Monsters 2 as the title they were hoping to bring over... so there is a lot of conflicting information .

Its important to understand that Vic Ireland has eyes bigger than his stomach (in other words, pretty damn big eyes). This is the guy who after being dissed by SoA said he was going to release Lunar 3 for PS. What's that you say? 10 years later and still there is no such thing as Lunar 3 in Japanese or English? Yeah, exactly. Could he have meant Grandia? Well, maybe, but SCEA released that so either way he was full of it.

Basically I'm saying don't hold your breath for Gaijinworks's 360 version of Tengai Mayou Zira.

What I find interesting is that these titles were being considered. I, for one, would never have chosen KoftM 1 or 2 for a venture of this sort... but that's only because I'm too conservative a businessman.

Zeta, I actually love your bitter tone, but surely you can appreciate a character such as Victor Ireland (especially because he played a pivotal role in the history of TG-16 and TG-CD)...

I don't doubt that the following titles were being considered. I don't know how viable the projects were, but they were at least considered:

Elfaria2  (WD did translation only, Hudson Soft would have published it)
 Hudson Soft
 RPG
 Super Nintendo
 Unreleased
 
King of the Monsters 2  (I suspect that WD was simply going to ride on the coattails of Hudson Soft for this and World Heroes.)
 Working Designs/SNK
 Action
 NEC TurboGrafx-16
 Unreleased
 
World Heroes
 Working Designs/SNK
 Action/ Fighting
 NEC TurboGrafx-16
 Unreleased

[SignOfZeta]

Zeta, I actually love your bitter tone, but surely you can appreciate a character such as Victor Ireland (especially because he played a pivotal role in the history of TG-16 and TG-CD)...

I envy his lame ass to be honest. He lived the otaku dream for a long time.

[esteban]

Zeta, I actually love your bitter tone, but surely you can appreciate a character such as Victor Ireland (especially because he played a pivotal role in the history of TG-16 and TG-CD)...

I envy his lame ass to be honest. He lived the otaku dream for a long time.

[esteban]

Word up, mothers. I updated the original post in this thread.

DIRECT LINK: Bonk for Prez '92.

[guyjin]

Damn, I want that bumper sticker now! 

[esteban]

Damn, I want that bumper sticker now! 

You got it. I updated the page so you can print out your own on letter- or legal-sized paper.

Tell me if there is anything you'd like me to change or play around with.

I haven't tested the legal-sized one... but it should fit (hopefully).

[guyjin]

now where can I find sticky-backed legal paper...

[esteban]

now where can I find sticky-backed legal paper...

Crap, I didn't think of that!

Is there such a beast?

IMO, the bigger the better! I haven't looked, but there must be some company that sells odd-sized specialty papers... maybe they have "blank" sticker sheets of various odd sizes.

If you find something, I'll re-size the image and add it to the page as another option.