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bob

05/20/2016, 12:55 PM
You know, sellers are often given quite a hard time for asking stupid prices for TG/PCE stuff.
I think it's about time to start a thread to laugh at the dumb buyers that actually way overpay for this stuff.  These people deserve just as much hazing as the sellers trying to gouge.  There is no shortage, so I will start with just a few links.  Please add on when you see craziness.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Dynastic-Hero-Turbografx-16-TurboDuo-super-CD-USA-Version-TG16-game-/301905017246?hash=item464af0f99e:g:aj0AAOSwMORW8DT4

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPER-AIR-ZONK-ROCKABILLY-PARADISE-TURBOGRAFX-16-ULTRA-RARE-/282033062468?hash=item41aa7b0244:g:vW4AAOSwcL5XMS6D

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAMP-CALIFORNIA-TURBOGRAFX-16-ULTRA-RARE-FEATURING-BEACH-BOYS-MUSIC-/282033079603?hash=item41aa7b4533:g:0aoAAOSwxVpXMTQy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEGEND-OF-HERO-TONMA-TURBOGRAFX-16-Turbo-Duo-HUCARD-/141927638728?hash=item210b8be6c8:g:HE8AAOSwP~tW5Au9

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEGEND-OF-HERO-TONMA-TURBOGRAFX-16-Turbo-Duo-HUCARD-/141927638728?hash=item210b8be6c8:g:HE8AAOSwP~tW5Au9http://www.ebay.com/itm/Turbografx16-17-Piece-Lot-/262296957864?hash=item3d121df3a8%3Ag%3AvuEAAOSwUuFWxibE&nma=true&si=CzWBXKd7iiM9ZSbzhmmFqYHtTL8%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Legend-Of-Hero-Tonma-Turbografx-Turbo-Duo-Hucard-And-Manual-/262366960593?hash=item3d164a1bd1:g:cQAAAOSw9KpXAMoW

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TurboExpress-TurboGrafx-16-Handheld-System-with-Original-Box-/252381789875?hash=item3ac3207eb3:g:qx8AAOSw3mpXLgMA

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TurboGrafx-16-Super-System-Card-Ver-3-0-US-VERSION-VERY-RARE-Complete-CIB-/301633329458?hash=item463abf5932:g:CoMAAOSweW5VVTmt

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEC-Turbografx-TG16-System-Console-COMPLETE-IN-BOX-TESTED-/162029507975?hash=item25b9b61587:g:n-UAAOSwjwlXBCL7

CrackTiger

#1
05/20/2016, 01:35 PM Last Edit: 05/20/2016, 01:39 PM by Black Tiger
The problem with overbid sold items is we never know if a legit buyer actually went through with the purchase.

Might as well add bithead1000's two PCE haul videos. He goes on and on about how he has no idea what anything is worth or if the games are any good, but pays 50% - 400% the average selling price for games to have them in good condition.

Then complains that packages from Japan take 2 or 3 months to arrive. Because he's gullible enough to pay $700 for Sapphire, but then opts for uninsured SAL shipping to save a few dollars.



Super Air Zonk at least began selling for that much on occasion maybe 5 years ago. Back then Legend of Hero Tonma was only beginning to fetch as much as $100. Those Tonma links you posted are the most overpriced Turbo sales I've ever seen.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

bob

#2
05/20/2016, 02:31 PM
I hear ya.  Maybe they "sold", maybe they didn't.  But it's still fun to point and laugh.

NecroPhile

#3
05/20/2016, 03:07 PM
I'd pay $100 for a Tonma but not $500.  Funk dat!
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bob

#4
05/20/2016, 03:09 PM
there was a dead moon complete that sold for something stupid like $350+ a few weeks ago.
But it seems the listing is no longer under the sold items.  I hope THAT one wasn't paid for.

CrackTiger

#5
05/20/2016, 03:15 PM
It helps if these fake sales at least get removed from the history from time to time. Not tgat clueless buyers and sellers actually pay attention to actual Sold listings.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

SignOfZeta

#6
05/20/2016, 03:21 PM
I'm still amazed eBay even offers that information. They're the ones that benefit most from the ignorance.
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TDIRunner

#7
05/20/2016, 03:41 PM
Speaking of dumb buyers.

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Maybe, just once, someone will call me "sir" without adding, "you're making a scene."

geise

#8
05/20/2016, 04:03 PM
LOL @ that $399 super system 3 card.

At least the Super Air Zonk cd bid started at $50.  The whole thing is crazy.  I remember nobody wanted this shit back then.  No one cared except the few loyal turbo fans.  It was all Sega and SNES then.  Now "oh I've never head of these games so extremely rare!"  I can't believe what Camp California goes for.  I didn't want that game back in the day and I still don't want it.  You know Amazon is even a crazier place than ebay for stupid fucking prices on Turbo stuff.  Probably same sellers as well.  Do people really pay for these prices to play or is it mostly for the circle jerk?

ginoscope

#9
05/20/2016, 04:26 PM
Quote from: geise on 05/20/2016, 04:03 PMLOL @ that $399 super system 3 card.

At least the Super Air Zonk cd bid started at $50.  The whole thing is crazy.  I remember nobody wanted this shit back then.  No one cared except the few loyal turbo fans.  It was all Sega and SNES then.  Now "oh I've never head of these games so extremely rare!"  I can't believe what Camp California goes for.  I didn't want that game back in the day and I still don't want it.  You know Amazon is even a crazier place than ebay for stupid fucking prices on Turbo stuff.  Probably same sellers as well.  Do people really pay for these prices to play or is it mostly for the circle jerk?
You know no one is paying those prices to actually play.  If there was no alternative to playing on real hardware I could maybe understand but this is all trophies.  I like playing my stuff and having copies of the game if it makes sense.

Ergot_Cholera

#10
05/20/2016, 05:14 PM
Greed is pandemic.

bob

#11
05/21/2016, 09:50 AM

WoodyXP

#12
05/21/2016, 11:17 PM
Quote from: gynt on 05/21/2016, 09:50 AMhttp://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/231946668223
That game is getting ridiculous.  There's another one posted for $199.  What a turd that game is.
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HailingTheThings

#13
05/22/2016, 04:37 AM
Quote from: WoodyXP on 05/21/2016, 11:17 PM
Quote from: gynt on 05/21/2016, 09:50 AMhttp://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/231946668223
That game is getting ridiculous.  There's another one posted for $199.  What a turd that game is.
I think its fun... :(
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rxmage

#14
05/22/2016, 08:37 AM
High prices are where they are due to a surge in popularity.  If you want a title, your pretty much going to have to pay what the current market demands.  Yeah, you could spend a year hitting every garage sale in your state looking for that elusive stash of TG16 items or you can wait about a decade for the popularity and interest to wane to get a great price on a popular title.  If you are trying to build a TG16 library at the moment, you are going to have to pay.  Is it "dumb" to pay the current inflated prices?   Yeah.  But how often do we all spend large sums of money on luxury items?

Now, if someone here wants to be a trend setter and break the cycle of high TG16 software prices, I would be happy to
purchase CIC Neutopia and Neutopia II from you for about $30 each.

bob

#15
05/22/2016, 09:29 AM
Quote from: rxmage on 05/22/2016, 08:37 AMNow, if someone here wants to be a trend setter and break the cycle of high TG16 software prices, I would be happy to
purchase CIC Neutopia and Neutopia II from you for about $30 each.
If it wasnt for all the dumb buyers over last couple years, i am sure you could get them.

CrackTiger

#16
05/22/2016, 10:39 AM
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

StarDust4Ever

#17
05/22/2016, 11:41 AM Last Edit: 05/22/2016, 12:11 PM by StarDust4Ever
Situation is getting out of hand. Those import adapters are worth their weight in gold. I recently aquired the whole trilogy of Bomberman games on PC Engine for less than what it costs to buy the first one US. I wish I'd gotten Neutopia last year though before it spiked. I don't do JRPGs, but thanks to Turbokan, I will have a Neutopia 2-in-1 repro headed my way. I got outbid a couple days ago on a Neutopia CIC which will be ending in a few minutes. There was also an 89.99 BIN that sold the other day but the Neutopia is currently bidding at $96. If t gets sniped for stupid money, I'll post the link to the completed auction. And another one ending sometime tomorrow. We'll see what happens but the situation is getting crazy...

Edit: Sold for $102.50 in the final seconds.
~From the Nintendo/Atari addict formerly known as StarDust4Ever...

esteban

#18
05/22/2016, 01:40 PM
Quote from: StarDust4Ever on 05/22/2016, 11:41 AMSituation is getting out of hand. Those import adapters are worth their weight in gold. I recently aquired the whole trilogy of Bomberman games on PC Engine for less than what it costs to buy the first one US. I wish I'd gotten Neutopia last year though before it spiked. I don't do JRPGs, but thanks to Turbokan, I will have a Neutopia 2-in-1 repro headed my way. I got outbid a couple days ago on a Neutopia CIC which will be ending in a few minutes. There was also an 89.99 BIN that sold the other day but the Neutopia is currently bidding at $96. If t gets sniped for stupid money, I'll post the link to the completed auction. And another one ending sometime tomorrow. We'll see what happens but the situation is getting crazy...

Edit: Sold for $102.50 in the final seconds.
Ok, I am so out-of-touch with prices now.

Neutopia sells for $102...

WHEN WILL KEITH COURAGE FETCH THESE PRICES?
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StarDust4Ever

#19
05/22/2016, 01:47 PM
Quote from: esteban on 05/22/2016, 01:40 PMOk, I am so out-of-touch with prices now.

Neutopia sells for $102...

WHEN WILL KEITH COURAGE FETCH THESE PRICES?
Word. eBay prices on Turbo goods are accelerating faster than even pricecharting can keep up with them all...
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CrackTiger

#20
05/22/2016, 01:48 PM
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

StarDust4Ever

#21
05/22/2016, 02:05 PM
~From the Nintendo/Atari addict formerly known as StarDust4Ever...

seieienbu

#22
05/22/2016, 04:13 PM
I got both Neutopias for under a hundred last year on this site.  Deals seem to be harder to come by these days as there are way more people trying to snatch up what seems to be fewer sales but they do occur.
Current want list:  Bomberman 93

CrackTiger

#23
05/22/2016, 05:20 PM
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

CrackTiger

#24
05/22/2016, 07:48 PM
Vasteel bid up to $661:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TG16-PC-Engine-Turbo-Duo-VASTEEL-SCD-Sealed-Excellent-Condition-/201539303498?hash=item2eecadb84a:g:FxIAAOSwYlJW4hBL


Remember when some of the few genuinely rare Turbo games got as high as $400 and Dynastic Hero began to sell as high as $800, but Vasteel was still a $40 game?





Exile WP with 2 bids ended at $761:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TG16-PC-Engine-Turbo-Duo-EXILE-WICKED-PHENOMENOM-SCD-Sealed-Excellent-Condition-/191827031438?hash=item2ca9c8358e:g:ZYgAAOSwxp9W8RcV



Why did these/this collectard(s) pay several times the "going rate" for these two games? For the cardboard sleeves of course. At least Vic didn't give them disc art variants. This is the kind of crap pro-collectards keep demanding from homebrew games and bootlegs.





Exile for $120:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TurboGrafx-CD-16-TG16-Exile-BRAND-NEW-FACTORY-SEALED-/252325175498?hash=item3abfc0a0ca:g:DDcAAOSwMORW7P51


One of the most common and overprinted Turbo games sold with a BIN by our good pal drorangejuicer. To his credit, he offered the next copy off his stack a couple weeks later for $20 less.

For years a seller tried to sell off the old stock of sealed Exile and CF2 copies for what, $15 on eBay? But they still couldn't find enough buyers and a flipper wound up buying the entire stock to sit on them at a higher price. But nothing close to this.






13 copies of CIC Parsol Stars have sold for a BIN price of $140:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Parasol-Stars-The-Story-of-Bubble-Bobble-III-TurboGrafx-Turbo-Duo-Turboexpress-/321560640033?hash=item4ade81fa21:g:ScsAAOSw-jhUDo~f


Hurry up before the last one gets sold!





CIB Cadash $260:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TG16-PC-Engine-Turbo-Duo-CADASH-complete-Excellent-Condition-/191821147861?hash=item2ca96e6ed5:g:5fMAAOSwAuNW3OeQ





CIC Cadash $135:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cadash-TurboGrafx-16-Turbo-Duo-Turboexpress-TGX-CIC-TG-16-PC-ENGINE-DUO-R-RX-/322016597899?hash=item4af9af578b:g:Qs4AAOSwUV9WnId6


Sold by the Official TurboGrafx-16 Authorized Distributor turbozonedirect1.


The last two show how even at the top end for CIC and CIB, by far the most valuable part of a video game is the disposable box. People are paying more for the outer box than everything else combined. Just for the privilege of experiencing what those few of us who gave a crap about TG-16 bitd got to do: tear it open and throw it in the trash.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

ToyMachine78

#25
05/22/2016, 08:23 PM
WTH? I may sell my collection and retire in Florida.

As soon as gunboat hits sought after status, I'm flipping that turd.

martinine

#26
05/22/2016, 10:36 PM
I thought I had an awesome deal on Ys Books 1 & 2, Duo edition yesterday, I was winning around $40, but it jumped to $76 at the last second. Sniped. I lost.

$76 is still a decent price as far as eBay goes for this disc, but I thought I was getting away with it...

https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/141993222145
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xcrement5x

#27
05/23/2016, 11:04 AM
I feel like the Working Designs stuff is a bubble within a bubble to be honest.  Even their less spectacular releases get a general bump in price just because they were put out by Vic.
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CrackTiger

#28
05/23/2016, 12:12 PM
Quote from: martinine on 05/22/2016, 10:36 PMI thought I had an awesome deal on Ys Books 1 & 2, Duo edition yesterday, I was winning around $40, but it jumped to $76 at the last second. Sniped. I lost.

$76 is still a decent price as far as eBay goes for this disc, but I thought I was getting away with it...

https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/141993222145
The "Duo" edition is incomplete and has an ugly disc label. The jewel case has no tray liner/insert. The proper full edition sells CIC on eBay for less than that.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ys-Book-I-II-TurboGrafx-CD-1990-w-case-and-manual-/201532630173?hash=item2eec47e49d:g:ZdgAAOSwQYZW1Qw2

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ys-Book-I-II-Turbo-Duo-Turbografx-16-CD-TG-16-FAST-Shipping-/172148703994?hash=item2814dcc2fa%3Ag%3AyEoAAOSwAvJW-AvI&nma=true&si=cjCIdXCP2ntoEdcfSXHWW3IYpA0%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ys-Book-I-II-TurboGrafx-CD-1990-Rare-Turbo-Duo-PC-Engine-/172198454831?hash=item2817d3e62f:g:Vj4AAOSwShJXL0Kh

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ys-Book-I-II-TURBO-GRAFX-DUO-16-CD-USA-jewel-case-instruction-manual-/322068127062?hash=item4afcc19d56:g:ThAAAOSwsN9XCDLI



The Duo version is only worth buying super cheap as a functional copy or as a superfluous collectible, after you already have the full version.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

SignOfZeta

#29
05/23/2016, 01:48 PM
The disc art is not "ugly". It's just text. "Plain" or "lame" is probably more accurate. It's downright Peter Savile by US Turbo art standards.
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CrackTiger

#30
05/23/2016, 02:04 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 05/23/2016, 01:48 PMThe disc art is not "ugly". It's just text. "Plain" or "lame" is probably more accurate. It's downright Peter Savile by US Turbo art standards.
Not by existing CD2 disc label standards at the time. After the original CD disc style, it was all downhill.

The kinda-italic font on Ys and the spacing that makes it look like "Y s", the giant TM in a contrasting font, cobbled together with the Turbo DuoTM and CD-ROMROM logo is bad enough. Adding that shade of blue only ruins it further.

This isn't a generic TurboGrafx-16 demo disc, it's freaking Ys.

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It's not worth a 50% premium, just the opposite. That's not evening taking into account the lack of a tray liner and a whit case that doesn't match the rest of your Turbo games.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

NecroPhile

#31
05/23/2016, 03:13 PM
But it matches Final Zone 2 and Valis 2.....  :lol:
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ToyMachine78

#32
05/23/2016, 04:19 PM
It came from the desert is the best looking disk. 😊

StarDust4Ever

#33
05/23/2016, 05:22 PM
Quote from: guest on 05/23/2016, 02:04 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 05/23/2016, 01:48 PMThe disc art is not "ugly". It's just text. "Plain" or "lame" is probably more accurate. It's downright Peter Savile by US Turbo art standards.
Not by existing CD2 disc label standards at the time. After the original CD disc style, it was all downhill.

The kinda-italic font on Ys and the spacing that makes it look like "Y s", the giant TM in a contrasting font, cobbled together with the Turbo DuoTM and CD-ROMROM logo is bad enough. Adding that shade of blue only ruins it further.

This isn't a generic TurboGrafx-16 demo disc, it's freaking Ys.

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It's not worth a 50% premium, just the opposite. That's not evening taking into account the lack of a tray liner and a whit case that doesn't match the rest of your Turbo games.
I think the top disc looks nicer. Wish we could see the whole thing.
~From the Nintendo/Atari addict formerly known as StarDust4Ever...

NecroPhile

#34
05/23/2016, 05:44 PM
Quote from: StarDust4Ever on 05/23/2016, 05:22 PMWish we could see the whole thing.
The rest is as generic as the Duo pack-in:  http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~bQAAOSwubRXNiz1/s-l1600.jpg
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Sarumaru

#35
05/23/2016, 06:29 PM
Always thought the Duo disc looked like some early 90's Win 3.1 clip art disc. The original disc isn't anything spectacular either, but at least it's got the original logo making it more aesthetically pleasing. But really, it was all about Cosmic Fantasy 2 and Vasteel discs. Everything else looked like crap.

wildfruit

#36
05/23/2016, 07:41 PM
If you must have legitimate discs buy the jp ones and burn the English to play.  The art on Ys III jp is quite nice. It's also the easiest to play through with the language barrier. My jp is very basic, I don't know any kanji but I could muddle through some menus and just watched a YouTube video for anything I needed translated like essential text or spoken parts.

StarDust4Ever

#37
05/23/2016, 08:11 PM
Sometimes you can muddle through Japanese menus, but occasionally you pull a boner like deleting the save file or something. #-o

A big part of RPG/Adventure games is the story line, which is lost if you can't read. Also NPC players tend to drop subtle clues as to what you are supposed to do in game, and if you can't read it, how will you know? It's why I'll never play the Japanese equivalent of games like Neutopia or Ys.

However platformers, SHMUPs, puzzlers, and fighters generally play fine without any knowledge of Japanese. Stuff like Bomberman is just as enjoyable in Japanese as it is in English for instance. Many Famicom, Super Famicom, and PC Engine games actually have menus that are at least partially in English so are import friendly.
~From the Nintendo/Atari addict formerly known as StarDust4Ever...

johnnykonami

#38
05/23/2016, 10:06 PM
Quote from: Sarumaru on 05/23/2016, 06:29 PMAlways thought the Duo disc looked like some early 90's Win 3.1 clip art disc. The original disc isn't anything spectacular either, but at least it's got the original logo making it more aesthetically pleasing. But really, it was all about Cosmic Fantasy 2 and Vasteel discs. Everything else looked like crap.
Whatever screening process they used on the CF2 disc does look sweet.  I remember the Vasteel disc just had the heads of the two brothers on it or something and looked pretty bland, but I think it used the same process iirc.  I've always just had my Duo Ys disc and never felt the need to go after the original release.  The crappy typography is just nostalgic for me anyway!  Makes me think back to when I got my Duo and played the crap out of those discs.

StarDust4Ever

#39
05/23/2016, 10:16 PM
Quote from: johnnykonami on 05/23/2016, 10:06 PM
Quote from: Sarumaru on 05/23/2016, 06:29 PMAlways thought the Duo disc looked like some early 90's Win 3.1 clip art disc. The original disc isn't anything spectacular either, but at least it's got the original logo making it more aesthetically pleasing. But really, it was all about Cosmic Fantasy 2 and Vasteel discs. Everything else looked like crap.
Whatever screening process they used on the CF2 disc does look sweet.  I remember the Vasteel disc just had the heads of the two brothers on it or something and looked pretty bland, but I think it used the same process iirc.  I've always just had my Duo Ys disc and never felt the need to go after the original release.  The crappy typography is just nostalgic for me anyway!  Makes me think back to when I got my Duo and played the crap out of those discs.
I've noticed it too with like Game Cube Releases. Those earlier discs made in Japan would often be screen printed with two or three colors, then the Player's Choice variants came out with full color images. Screen printing can look really nice if done correctly, even with limited pallet.
~From the Nintendo/Atari addict formerly known as StarDust4Ever...

CrackTiger

#40
05/24/2016, 09:45 AM
I really don't like that kind of thick coating that Lords of the Rising Sun, It Came From The Desrt, CF2, Vasteel, etc used.

If anything other than the original Turbo disc style was going to be done, they should have had stylized full color silk screens like Sidearms Special and Super Darius, which were my first CD games.

When I bought my first thick cover disc game (Lords of the Rising Sun?), I actually felt like I got less of a value and was thankful that it wouldn't be visible while playing the game
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

LostFlunky

#41
05/24/2016, 10:00 AM
Quote from: gynt on 05/21/2016, 09:50 AMhttp://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/231946668223
I felt like a major asshole when mine got bid up to $50 a couple years ago...

StarDust4Ever

#42
05/24/2016, 12:35 PM
Quote from: Lost Monkey on 05/24/2016, 10:00 AM
Quote from: gynt on 05/21/2016, 09:50 AMhttp://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/231946668223
I felt like a major asshole when mine got bid up to $50 a couple years ago...
You shouldn't feel bad. If you post an auction with a reasonably low starting bid, and the collectards get into a bidding frenzy and jack the price up beyond what most BINs are asking, you can't much blame yourself if it goes for more than it's worth.

I'm still kicking myself for not buying Neutopia last year for $60 BIN. Now that I've got a PC-Henshin (glad I ordered it when they were still 44 Brittish Pounds each) I've started buying up the games I really want to play as imports. Neutopia is one of the few games on my radar that's not import friendly. But I preordered the 2-in-1 repro from Turbokon with a clear conscience because I know it can't be mistaken for an original. Also getting a slick white Magical Chase!  :dance:
~From the Nintendo/Atari addict formerly known as StarDust4Ever...

Warbucks

#43
05/24/2016, 02:49 PM
It seems like all the non-common games will eventually be $100 at this rate.

SignOfZeta

#44
05/24/2016, 04:20 PM
Well, as long as all these fucking noobs keep showing up. Yeah. There are probably more noobs this year alone than there were in the entire TG-16 user base back in the day. Many TG-16 games used to just...sit there at the store, for months or years, and eventually go back to the main warehouse after never selling. You know, like any catagory of software in existence.

We have to get these kids laid, guys. It's the the only way to stem the tide. Also, your own kids. Tell them you love them and try to instill some kind of value system in your sons so that they don't all end up seaking external validation through a $6000 chip of plastic that smells like a library basement but only if you remove the plastic. 

Seriously, what kind of 22 year old in 2016 starts buying games older than him for hundreds of dollars each? What is even the draw for someone like that? And why can't he just collect 8 Track? It has a much better software selection.
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martinine

#45
05/24/2016, 11:51 PM
Yes! This so much Zeta!

Back to my Ys discussion earlier, I totally agree that the Duo pack in is at least less appealing because the lack of tray art. It still felt that $40-50 is a good value for either version of the game. I've never been able to find one or win an auction I was willing to pay. Awesome game! One of my all time favs, but I've only been able to play it emulated since I never had a CD drive when I was a kid. My bud had a Duo so I got the dreaded watch on Ys.

Speaking of watching your friends play games  That was always the worst when I was a kid, now it's such a hit on YouTube. Surreal.
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ChuChu Flamingo

#46
05/25/2016, 11:46 PM
Thereseems to be no shortage of stupid buyers, and it keeps increasing at an alarming rate. What do you really expect when retro is "hip" now and ebay has "now trending" prices. 2011 prices and hell even a year or two ago look massively better than nowadays. Who knows if this bubble will ever burst.

neopolss

#47
05/25/2016, 11:54 PM
I think what I hate most is that the games have value at all.  I truly wish titles were worthless, so that we could buy and collect turbografx for the love of playing games on our system.  I wish I didnt have to use an everdrive, but my practical side tells me that these idiots will buy my games for stupid amounts, and I should let them.  For now.  I do believe that eventually, it will all collapse, and we will have our pick of the litter come that day.  I remember when NES games were dirt cheap, and buying a system and games for $20 was a thrill, with plenty of great titles to play for weeks.  Now a common copy of Mega Man is almost 100 bucks.  I really dont get it at all.  Guess Im playing mega man on everdrive for now, causing i have to shill my real copy to some loser.

StarDust4Ever

#48
05/26/2016, 01:33 AM
Quote from: neopolss on 05/25/2016, 11:54 PMI think what I hate most is that the games have value at all.  I truly wish titles were worthless, so that we could buy and collect turbografx for the love of playing games on our system.  I wish I didnt have to use an everdrive, but my practical side tells me that these idiots will buy my games for stupid amounts, and I should let them.  For now.  I do believe that eventually, it will all collapse, and we will have our pick of the litter come that day.  I remember when NES games were dirt cheap, and buying a system and games for $20 was a thrill, with plenty of great titles to play for weeks.  Now a common copy of Mega Man is almost 100 bucks.  I really dont get it at all.  Guess Im playing mega man on everdrive for now, causing i have to shill my real copy to some loser.
Yeah it sucks. A lot of the price inflation is caused by poser collectors who want to collect a "complete set" or otherwise buy nice games just to have them as "shelf sitters" Kinda dumb if you ask me but at least if people think they have value, it won't go into a landfill.

Games used to be worthless and owners, as well as game stores with stagnant inventory just threw them out as trash until the larger supply equalized to the dwindling demand. Now we have the opposite, huge demand and little supply, hence games that were formerly worthless now sell for huge amounts.

On the one hand, the high prices is bad for the gamer but ultimately good for preservation because existing stock isn't just going straight into landfills. I do believe we are in a bubble so to speak. All the shelf collectors doing it because it's "in" or "cool" will eventually get bored and dump their stock, then prices will be reasonable once again. Just don't expect bargain basement prices like what existed around 2000. That would be unrealistic. Games are a part of history and will be appreciated until the end of time, whether they exist as physical media or just ROMs on someone's hard drive.
~From the Nintendo/Atari addict formerly known as StarDust4Ever...

rxmage

#49
05/26/2016, 07:35 AM
Unfortunately, at the moment, if you want popular titles, you are going to have to almost start at $100 to get one.  Most likely, this isn't going to change any time soon.  Because of this, the Everdrive is definitely my friend.  However, there are some titles that have resonated with me and I want to own a physical copy.  The Neutopia series happens to be one.  As I joked around in a previous post, no one was willing to come forward and sell me copies in the $30 to $40 dollar range.  So, I dumbed down and recently paid a ridiculously stupid amount for them CIC.  Do I plan to continue throwing stupid amounts around to complete a collection?  No, there are only about 10 titles that I really want to have a physical copy of.  I have already picked some of those titles up by buying system lots and recapping the consoles and performing AV mods only to then flip them while keeping the games.  This has worked well for me, as I have obtained several titles for nothing out of pocket.  However, quite a few of the the titles on my list are probably not going to show up bundled with systems.  So, a fool and his money will shortly part ways.
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