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Is the PC engine/turbografx consoles the defenitive platform for shmups??

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esteban

#50
07/01/2007, 08:20 AM
Quote from: Kitsunexus on 07/01/2007, 01:20 AMBTW, the ultimate system for SHMUPs is the PC, because if you name it, it's most likely emulated.
I can only assume you were joking (?) when you posted this. Good bye.
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Seldane

#51
07/01/2007, 08:27 AM
Quote from: esteban on 07/01/2007, 08:20 AM
Quote from: Kitsunexus on 07/01/2007, 01:20 AMBTW, the ultimate system for SHMUPs is the PC, because if you name it, it's most likely emulated.
I can only assume you were joking (?) when you posted this. Good bye.
My thoughts exactly. :p
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RuninRuder

#52
07/01/2007, 08:32 AM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 07/01/2007, 03:24 AMIs stage 5 of Wings of Wor the inside of that thingy where it's moving and convulsing and the like? 
Yep, that's the one.

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 07/01/2007, 03:24 AMThe boss designs in that game are insane!  A train/boat with a head?  Awesome!
Have you played Choaniki for PCE, Joe?  It also has insane bosses (including a train with a head!) and lots of bullets, and it was made by those same NCS/Masaya folks.  It's not nearly as awesome as WoW, but few PCE games are.

awack

#53
07/01/2007, 01:04 PM
Yea, i remember an online game store advertised cho aniki for the pc engine as super wings of wor obviously due to its  better grafx and sound.

Keranu

#54
07/01/2007, 04:08 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 07/01/2007, 06:20 AMIf the game was exactly like that on the Turbo you'd love that level!
Nah, unless they changed the color of the bullets or something. Even some of the technical effects in Terraforming kinda pissed me off, though not as bad.
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Joe Redifer

#55
07/01/2007, 06:03 PM
I read that the same guy who did enemy designs for Chew on Nikki or whatever it's called did the designs for Wins o' Wor.  I've never Chewed on Nikki, but I'd like to try one of those games.

Tatsujin

#56
07/01/2007, 11:13 PM
ah..now i know about what game you guys talking about. wings of wor..ROLF never heard that title before.
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Joe Redifer

#57
07/02/2007, 01:38 AM
It be called "Gynoug" in Japan yo.

Tatsujin

#58
07/02/2007, 05:49 AM
you are telling me. but i really never heard that worsimproved title before. i swear O:)
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elnino

#59
07/02/2007, 06:31 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 07/01/2007, 11:13 PMwings of wor..ROLF never heard that title before.
Same here, haha, seems like we are too focused on the OMG japan titles!
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Tatsujin

#60
07/02/2007, 06:50 AM
Quote from: elnino on 07/02/2007, 06:31 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 07/01/2007, 11:13 PMwings of wor..ROLF never heard that title before.
Same here, haha, seems like we are too focused on the OMG japan titles!
sure enough coz we're the well knowers with a good portion of taste.
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Seldane

#61
07/02/2007, 09:55 AM
Ahaa, Gynoug! I had no idea what "Wings of Wor" was until now. :P
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OldRover

#62
07/07/2007, 08:23 PM
Slightly off-topic but oh well...

Tatsujin: you will soon have a new shooter to collect. :D
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Keranu

#63
07/07/2007, 08:29 PM
Quote from: Nödtveidt on 07/07/2007, 08:23 PMSlightly off-topic but oh well...

Tatsujin: you will soon have a new shooter to collect. :D
Two if his list includes platform shooters ;) .
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Tatsujin

#64
07/08/2007, 12:54 AM
Quote from: Keranu on 07/07/2007, 08:29 PM
Quote from: Nödtveidt on 07/07/2007, 08:23 PMSlightly off-topic but oh well...

Tatsujin: you will soon have a new shooter to collect. :D
Two if his list includes platform shooters ;) .
oh what the hell?? PLZ clear me up guys :shock: :D
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Keranu

#65
07/08/2007, 01:22 AM
I assume nod was referring to MindRec's new shooters in development, Xymati and PC Gunjin.
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Tatsujin

#66
07/08/2007, 01:29 AM
ahh yes, i see. waiting for those since almost a small infinity :mrgreen:
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Keranu

#67
07/08/2007, 01:42 AM
Me too :) . Frag shows me some of his latest work every now and then on IRC, both games look so awesome.
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Tatsujin

#68
07/08/2007, 01:50 AM
can't wait to see them in action!! fabulous work, for a small indy :D
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PCE Shmups countdown: 111/111 (all clear!!)
Sega does what Nintendon't, but only NEC does better than both together!^^
<Senshi> Tat's i'm going to contact the people of Hard Off and open a store stateside..

Seldane

#69
07/08/2007, 08:54 AM
Holy ****! Who drew the graphics for PC Gunjin? It looks really really good! :o
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Turbo D

#70
07/08/2007, 09:02 AM
wow, I can't wait to get mah paws on those shiznits!
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Keranu

#71
07/08/2007, 03:44 PM
Quote from: Seldane on 07/08/2007, 08:54 AMHoly ****! Who drew the graphics for PC Gunjin? It looks really really good! :o
FraGMarE of course since he's the only graphic artist for MindRec and draws everything  :mrgreen: .
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nat

#72
07/08/2007, 04:47 PM
Can we expect those games sometime this decade?

Keranu

#73
07/08/2007, 04:55 PM
I dunno man, he's still working on the first level of Xymati from what I know, which is going to be a really massive level by the way.
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OldRover

#74
07/08/2007, 06:33 PM
I was actually referring to Frozen Utopia's "secret" project, but Xymati is another one...

PC Gunjin isn't a shooter, it's a run-and-gun. It's hard to consider such a game a shooter, it's more of a platformer where you shoot stuff instead of jumping on stuff of hacking stuff to pieces (kinda like Contra). Xymati is definitely a shooter though.
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Emerald Rocker

#75
07/09/2007, 11:28 PM
I'd have to say that the Genesis is by far the definitive platform for shooters.  As for shmucks, I'm not sure what platform that would be.
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thewestexit

#76
07/18/2007, 01:26 AM
As much as I love the PCE, I'd have to say that the Mega Drive/Genesis edges it out in the shooter category, especially if you count run n' gun games like Gunstar Heroes, Alien Soldier, Battle Mania, and Contra Hard Corps.
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Joe Redifer

#77
07/18/2007, 02:08 AM
Battle Mania isn't a run and gun.  It would best be described as Forgotten Worlds for girls.

guyjin

#78
07/18/2007, 12:39 PM
The Genesis isn't the definitive platform for anything but crappy sports games and FMV garbage.

Joe Redifer

#79
07/18/2007, 02:19 PM
Yeah, lots of FMV on the Genesis.  FPS and MMO, too.

CosMind

#80
07/18/2007, 02:32 PM
i'm going to have to say sega saturn for quality, and sega dreamcast for quantity.

Tatsujin

#81
07/18/2007, 08:14 PM
and i'm going to have to say the vcs2600 kicks'em all in the ass! quality and quantity wise.
www.pcedaisakusen.net - home of your individual PC Engine collection!!
PCE Games countdown: 690/737 (47 to go or 93.6% clear)
PCE Shmups countdown: 111/111 (all clear!!)
Sega does what Nintendon't, but only NEC does better than both together!^^
<Senshi> Tat's i'm going to contact the people of Hard Off and open a store stateside..

Keranu

#82
07/19/2007, 12:34 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 07/18/2007, 08:14 PMand i'm going to have to say the vcs2600 kicks'em all in the ass! quality and quantity wise.
Space Jockey is so awesome. It's all about twitch reflexes! I once got a huge score in it and wrote it down, but I don't know where it is now :( .
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Joe Redifer

#83
07/19/2007, 02:02 AM
I bet that my high score in that same game is at least 1 point higher than yours.

Keranu

#84
07/19/2007, 02:28 AM
Arrr, CRAP! I hate it when people one-up me!
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RCduck7

#85
07/19/2007, 04:26 PM
I recently played a not to popular but great horizontal shooter on the msx2 called "space manbow".
It's a shooter from konami and looks very good to for an msx game.
msx might not be the ultimate system for shooters but still worthwhile looking into. :)
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nat

#86
07/19/2007, 05:37 PM
Quote from: RCduck7 on 07/19/2007, 04:26 PMmsx might not be the ultimate system for shooters
That's something of an understatement.

JoshTurboTrollX

#87
07/20/2007, 07:46 PM
Saturn trumps the Genesissy in shmup supremacy.



TG wins cause its the greatest console on earth!
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Joe Redifer

#88
07/20/2007, 08:04 PM
The PC-FX is a waaaaaaaaay better console than the wimpy TG-16 or Duo.  Look at the banner at the top of this page.  It features the massively popular chicky who represents the PC-FX.  I mean god damn!  The TG-16 can go to hell.  Look at the banner again.  Anything TG-16 related is blurry.  That means the TG-16 sux.  Only the PC-FX has massive gameplay adictability and intense worlds to enthrall players with copious amounts of replayability and genius game design.

Keranu

#89
07/20/2007, 11:47 PM
Not to mention the PC-FX would smash a Turbo system in a fight.
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Joe Redifer

#90
07/20/2007, 11:52 PM
Pffft... the Turbo wouldn't even show up.  Fucking Turbo.  What a lump of complete horse crap!

Turbo D

#91
07/21/2007, 12:21 AM
I don't know, I've seen U.S. Turbografx-16 + CD player attachments take down grown men after they take shits  :wink:
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Joe Redifer

#92
07/21/2007, 12:55 AM
But the PC-FX could rape an entire army!  The PC-FX could have been the most successful console ever, with sales numbers at least 100 times what the PS2 sold.  It just didn't feel like it.  That's how awesome it was.

nat

#93
07/21/2007, 01:13 AM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 07/21/2007, 12:55 AMThe PC-FX could have been the most successful console ever, with sales numbers at least 100 times what the PS2 sold.  It just didn't feel like it.  That's how awesome it was. 
It was too awesome to be released on US shores. Or anywhere in the world other than Japan. The Japanese are clearly more hardcore than us American pussies.

Joe Redifer

#94
07/21/2007, 01:17 AM
Not releasing the PC-FX in the US was Japan's revenge for us bombing the hell outta them in WW2.  Looks like they got the last laugh... and the upper hand!

Turbo D

#95
07/21/2007, 01:44 AM
Those bastards  :lol:
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TurboXray

#96
07/21/2007, 01:34 PM
It'd be nice to see a list of all PCE and MD shooters - yes, the japanese systems (no run-n-gun, please). Maybe the snes, too, I guess.

For US systems, I've remember thinking the Genesis was a shooter system in the early days, but when it gained more popularity the ratio widened.

Gaiares was the best shooter overall on the MD. Some of my favorite music on the genesis, too.

TF4 had some really cool effects, but the game just lack the fun of TF3. After the wow of the effects wore off, I didn't play it much. I also remember some of the scratchy audio got annoying after a while. The best areas were the ocean/mountain level and the space station/city level (desert level was nice), then the game starts to gets blah after that.

TF3.... <3!

Joe Redifer

#97
07/21/2007, 04:04 PM
Thunder Force 3 is probably my favorite to play, even though it is extremely easy for me.  I like Thunder Force 4 a lot, but it does get a bit fatiguing.  So does Thunder Force 5, which was less fun than part 4.  It just tried to be too "hardcore".  I really, really enjoy Thunder Force 2.  It had the perfect difficulty level.  And yes, I enjoy the overhead stages.

For a list (and descriptions) of all the shooters for the Genesis/Mega Drive (no run and guns), CLICK HERE.

I don't know of any similar lists for the PCE or SNES.

nat

#98
07/21/2007, 05:00 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 07/21/2007, 04:04 PMI don't know of any similar lists for the PCE or SNES.
That's because such a list for the PCE would take approximately 6 millenia to compile at the same level of detail that the SEGA-16 Genesis list has.

Joe Redifer

#99
07/21/2007, 05:31 PM
So you're saying that fans of the TG-16 and PCE are just lazy?
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