Could you bring yourself to kill another person?

albinoMithos · 04/07/2009, 08:25 AM

Honest question: If you were in a situation where you had a chance to kill another person or if you were in a situation where you had to kill another to survive, would you do it? Could you do it? I'll also state that there are no legal ramifications for doing so in this scenario.

I sure as hell could. I have no problem with being able to end another's life, but I think I'd need a reason to first. I'd probably also want things to be even, but only because I think if someone's life is gonna end by my hand I at least want them to have a fighting chance to save their own life. In that situation if I lost and was killed then so be it, the stronger of us two won. Now if things weren't like that and I needed to I'd definitely end their life. Hell I wouldn't even lose sleep over it, but that's me. Oh and if someone asked me personally to end their lives and they were content with their decision, I'd do it.

What do I consider a good reason to kill? Depends on the situation really.

What would you do?

Tatsujin · 04/07/2009, 08:33 AM

i've never was in a situation where I had a chance to kill another person or I was in a situation where I have to kill another to survive. therefore my answer is: I DO NOT KNOW, HUMAN!

Nazi NecroPhile · 04/07/2009, 11:44 AM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 04/07/2009, 08:33 AMi've never was in a situation where I had a chance to kill another person or I was in a situation where I have to kill another to survive. therefore my answer is: I DO NOT KNOW, HUMAN!

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Ceti Alpha · 04/07/2009, 04:01 PM

Quote from: guest on 04/07/2009, 11:44 AM
Quote from: Tatsujin on 04/07/2009, 08:33 AMi've never was in a situation where I had a chance to kill another person or I was in a situation where I have to kill another to survive. therefore my answer is: I DO NOT KNOW, HUMAN!
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I had a dream that I killed someone and it haunted me for a while. If I was in a situation where I felt that my life was in danger I don't think I'd hesitate. It's hard to say though, unless you're actually in that situation.

Joe Redifer · 04/07/2009, 04:03 PM

I wouldn't want to kill anyone, but I bet I could. I wouldn't like living with the thought no matter the circumstances, though.

Arkhan Asylum · 04/09/2009, 11:11 PM

I already done shot a mothafucka dead when I was rollin in my benzo poppin my colla. Had to chase that foo down to the pick n pay.

blam blam

two shots to the dome and the cracka was iced like my krunkjuice.

check me out, bitches.

im so gangsta i dont even tighten my belt.

Dark Fact · 05/06/2009, 10:44 PM

I'm a guy who gets worked up really easy. But...I wouldn't kill someone unless my own life was in danger. And even then, it would have to be a really really extreme case. To be honest, 99% of the time I wouldn't do it even if I was angry because of the fear of the consequences that can result from it.

RoyVegas · 05/06/2009, 11:40 PM

Well I can tell you first hand that I know what it feels like to almost be killed. At 9 years old I watched some crazy motherfucker shoot my mom two times. She fought for her life and to buy me time to run and get away. Luckily even though my mom was shot twice she managed to get away, get me and get into a car and drive for help. Luckily she lived. One bullet went in her chest, deflating a lung and went out her back. The other bullet went in her side and out her back. Ever since I have been old enough, I have carried a gun.

I can tell you that from experience that you never know what or when things will happen. I am a proud owner of SEVERAL guns and if needed I wouldn't hesitate to use them. I take my kids shooting on a regular basis at an indoor range to ensure that they know how and when to shoot if needed. I am not a psycho or anything like that, just a person who is ready at a moments notice to not only defend myself and those around me but my family also.

So would I kill someone? The answer is in a heartbeat (if needed).

So to those of you who don't think you need guns. Try having one pointed at your head and see if you think you need one. The only people who are against guns are the people who have NEVER been the victim of a violent crime.

Ceti Alpha · 05/07/2009, 07:29 AM

Quote from: RoyVegas on 05/06/2009, 11:40 PMWell I can tell you first hand that I know what it feels like to almost be killed. At 9 years old I watched some crazy motherfucker shoot my mom two times. She fought for her life and to buy me time to run and get away. Luckily even though my mom was shot twice she managed to get away, get me and get into a car and drive for help. Luckily she lived. One bullet went in her chest, deflating a lung and went out her back. The other bullet went in her side and out her back. Ever since I have been old enough, I have carried a gun.

I can tell you that from experience that you never know what or when things will happen. I am a proud owner of SEVERAL guns and if needed I wouldn't hesitate to use them. I take my kids shooting on a regular basis at an indoor range to ensure that they know how and when to shoot if needed. I am not a psycho or anything like that, just a person who is ready at a moments notice to not only defend myself and those around me but my family also.

So would I kill someone? The answer is in a heartbeat (if needed).

So to those of you who don't think you need guns. Try having one pointed at your head and see if you think you need one. The only people who are against guns are the people who have NEVER been the victim of a violent crime.

That is quite understandable.

Dark Fact · 05/07/2009, 10:54 AM

Nobody is saying that you don't need guns, Roy. We're just asking if you could bring yourself to kill another person.

Sinistron · 05/07/2009, 10:58 AM

I could do it quite easily to save myself or the life of a loved one- for self defense or for the greater good so to speak- anything else would be reprehensible.

Dark Fact · 05/07/2009, 11:03 AM

If you need to defend yourself, you are better off getting a gun. Martial arts is a joke.

Sinistron · 05/07/2009, 11:18 AM

Whatever's handy. gun, knife, spoon.

Nazi NecroPhile · 05/07/2009, 11:46 AM

Quote from: Dark Fact on 05/06/2009, 10:44 PMI wouldn't kill someone unless my own life was in danger. And even then, it would have to be a really really extreme case.

Huh?!? Either your life is in imminent danger or it isn't. It doesn't get any more extreme than that.

Quote from: RoyVegas on 05/06/2009, 11:40 PMThe only people who are against guns are the people who have NEVER been the victim of a violent crime.

I have no problem with people owning guns, but James Brady would beg to differ.

Quote from: Dark Fact on 05/07/2009, 11:03 AMIf you need to defend yourself, you are better off getting a gun. Martial arts is a joke.

That depends entirely upon the situation. Having a gun at your hip wouldn't be particularly useful in close quarters, at least not until you've backed 'em up enough to draw and fire.

Dark Fact · 05/07/2009, 02:57 PM

Quote from: NecroPhileHuh?!? Either your life is in imminent danger or it isn't. It doesn't get any more extreme than that.

What I'm trying to say is, NecroPhile, is that if a guy gets pissed off at me for whatever reason, I could assume that he would take it to the next step just to satisfy his anger. He could choose to kick my ass or knife me. Or, he could just be pissed off at me. I can't just pull a trigger on a guy who is pissed off at me for denting his car. It's these kinds of assessments that I have to make lest I want to explain to a judge why I put a bullet in a guy's heart just because I dented his hood ornament.

QuoteThat depends entirely upon the situation. Having a gun at your hip wouldn't be particularly useful in close quarters, at least not until you've backed 'em up enough to draw and fire.

It's more easier for felons to put a bullet in your organs than to try and smash your face with a baseball bat or a broken beer bottle. Unless your martial arts training teaches you to catch bullets at the speed of light, you're not gonna last long against a Colt 45 or an AK-47.

Ceti Alpha · 05/07/2009, 03:05 PM

Quote from: Dark Fact on 05/07/2009, 02:57 PM
Quote from: NecroPhileHuh?!? Either your life is in imminent danger or it isn't. It doesn't get any more extreme than that.
What I'm trying to say is, NecroPhile, is that if a guy gets pissed off at me for whatever reason, I could assume that he would take it to the next step just to satisfy his anger. He could choose to kick my ass or knife me. Or, he could just be pissed off at me. I can't just pull a trigger on a guy who is pissed off at me for denting his car. It's these kinds of assessments that I have to make lest I want to explain to a judge why I put a bullet in a guy's heart just because I dented his hood ornament.
QuoteThat depends entirely upon the situation. Having a gun at your hip wouldn't be particularly useful in close quarters, at least not until you've backed 'em up enough to draw and fire.
It's more easier for felons to put a bullet in your organs than to try and smash your face with a baseball bat or a broken beer bottle. Unless your martial arts training teaches you to catch bullets at the speed of light, you're not gonna last long against a Colt 45 or an AK-47.

lol. Whenever I go to Maine I laugh. It's a lot like the Maritimes, but you can buy crazy guns at the corner store.

RoyVegas · 05/07/2009, 04:29 PM

Quote from: guest on 05/07/2009, 11:46 AM
Quote from: RoyVegas on 05/06/2009, 11:40 PMThe only people who are against guns are the people who have NEVER been the victim of a violent crime.
I have no problem with people owning guns, but James Brady would beg to differ.

Would he really beg to differ? The Brady Bill is meant to stop people from walking in to a gun store, buying a gun and killing someone. Brady isn't against guns, he is for better control of them.

Nazi NecroPhile · 05/07/2009, 05:27 PM

Quote from: Dark Fact on 05/07/2009, 02:57 PMWhat I'm trying to say is, NecroPhile, is that if a guy gets pissed off at me for whatever reason, I could assume that he would take it to the next step just to satisfy his anger. He could choose to kick my ass or knife me. Or, he could just be pissed off at me. I can't just pull a trigger on a guy who is pissed off at me for denting his car. It's these kinds of assessments that I have to make lest I want to explain to a judge why I put a bullet in a guy's heart just because I dented his hood ornament.

Sorry; I assumed you knew the difference between a heated argument and being in mortal danger. If you have a legitimate fear for your life, then you've already decided that lethal force is justified (in any legal sense, anyway).

Quote from: Dark Fact on 05/07/2009, 02:57 PMIt's more easier for felons to put a bullet in your organs than to try and smash your face with a baseball bat or a broken beer bottle.

It may be easier, but that doesn't make it more likely. I haven't seen any statistics to back it up, yet I'm certain that there are far more attacks involving fists, bats, etc. than guns, so I fail to see why such training is useless.

Quote from: Dark Fact on 05/07/2009, 02:57 PMUnless your martial arts training teaches you to catch bullets at the speed of light, you're not gonna last long against a Colt 45 or an AK-47.

That's why I said that it depends upon the situation. If surprised in a confined space, I'd rather be able to quickly disarm/disable an attacker with my hands than rely on drawing a gun, chambering a round, clearing the safety, aiming and firing; the military teaches hand to hand combat for a reason.

Quote from: RoyVegas on 05/07/2009, 04:29 PMWould he really beg to differ? The Brady Bill is meant to stop people from walking in to a gun store, buying a gun and killing someone. Brady isn't against guns, he is for better control of them.

Fair enough. I misinterpreted what you meant by 'against' guns to include limiting their availability and not just their outright ban. That said, it's silly to think that out of the millions of violent crime victims, not a single one would like to abolish them completely.

Lord Thag · 05/09/2009, 11:29 AM

I'm not much of a gun nut, but I am against banning/restricting them. Why?

Folks like us follow the rules. Criminals don't. It's a simple as that. No amount of gun laws are going to stop someone from getting firearms illegally.

RoyVegas · 05/09/2009, 12:14 PM

Quote from: Lord Thag on 05/09/2009, 11:29 AMI'm not much of a gun nut, but I am against banning/restricting them. Why?

Folks like us follow the rules. Criminals don't. It's a simple as that. No amount of gun laws are going to stop someone from getting firearms illegally.

I couldn't agree more with this statement. If they were to ever tighten gun laws, the first people that would lose their guns would be the registered owners. So basically the ones that lose the guns are the good guys. Whats left? Criminals with guns and the good people are left defenseless.

Tatsujin · 05/10/2009, 07:58 AM

i'm living in a country which probably practicates the 100% oposite of the US gun law rules, and it's also a country with one of the possible lowest crime rate on our planet earth.
the origin cause of gun problems in the US takes place already hunderds of years ago. so you can't just shut down such kind of a mechansim.
just time will tell, if it gets more worse or better in future.

i can feel and understand the anger in some peeps which encountered street crime in which weapons where involved. but it doesn't make things better, if those victims following the same rules from then on.
it's the devils spiral, which brings peeps under earth and countries on their knees.

Dark Fact · 05/10/2009, 11:36 AM

I don't think the U.S. citizens are going to relinquish their firearms unless there is a 100% guarantee that there won't be any criminals on the streets or any foreign army planning to invade the country.

It's like that episode of the Simpsons where Lisa wished for world peace and got it only to have the world taken over by aliens.

But you guys get the idea.

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