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[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Cause of the TG16 price hike.]

Maybe someone can explained this whole "collectard" thing to me. If I'm not mistaken most of the users on this site are collecting video games, are they not? It's hard to play a game if you don't buy it. Sure you can go the route of using an Everdrive, but I have a feeling there are more collectors on the forums than there are who stick to the Everdrive.

I'm a gamer... I have been ever since my parents bought a VCS around 1980. Ever since then I have been not only playing games but collecting them. There have been occasions that I've sold off large portions of my collecting when in times of need, but then I eventually buy it back from another source. Sorry for my ignorance here, but I don't understand why people of this community are so harsh against collectors.

A collectard is anyone who pays more than what the game was sold for in 1995 in the bargain bin at Babbages.

Unless you are finding Turbo Grafx games for $2 CIB, I doubt it, so everyone is pretty much paying the going rate these days.

I think he was joking, lol.

[Off-Topic / Re: Met some Real-Life people this weekend]

Didn't know Dave was that tall.

[General Gaming / Re: Sega Saturn]

I never got into Saturn, but I did pick one up about 10 years ago?  I think I got the system CIB with like 6 games or so.

Still have it in my basement, I actually think I have some rares titles too, which I got all for like $50.

I was tho a HUGE Dreamcast fan, to this day I have like 4 systems, 3 US and 1 JP, and I don't remember why I have so many.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: New Gamasutra Article - TG16 Turns 25]

Fact #1: the Turbob wasn't "impossible to find".  It was carried by Sears, Service Merchandise, Montgomery Ward, JC Penney, and Radio Shack, which were all nationwide.

The Sears and Radio Shack stores in my town did not carry the TG16.  Sears had the Genesis, SNES, Game Boy, even the Virtual Boy, but not the TG16.  Radio Shack had almost no console stuff.  Service Merchandise... there was one of those nearby, but I don't remember going there for videogames much; if they had anything, it was probably even less than Ames (another department store there was one of around here back then), and I doubt very much they had anything TG16.  If those chains carried the system in some places, it was far from nationwide.  The only place I ever remember seeing a TG16 was in the Toys R Us near the mall (~40+ minutes away, so we went there quite rarely).

Fact #2: Mortal Kombat wouldn't have been a huge system seller, as few people would've been willing to pay $200 to play MK ($90 for the system, $50 for the game, $20 for a Tap, and $40 for a pair of 6-button controllers).  That's mighty steep to get a game that wouldn't have been exclusive for any length of time, 90 days tops.

Yeah, the length of exclusivity would be pretty important.  I do agree on that point.

Black Falcon,

What state were you in during that time? I had no trouble seeing TG-16 stuff, without even having to look for it.

I don't remember seeing many where I live in Columbus, Ohio.  They did have em at Toys R Us but it was the only store I remember.

BUT we did have Incredible Universe which still is the greatest electronic store ever.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: TG16 US release list?]

I don't have an iAnything, so can you check a few titles and post the dates here?  I think the only titles we have solid dates for are Keith Courage and the WD games, so perhaps they're using the PCE release dates.

K.

Dragon Spirit: Jan 1 1989
Keith Courage: August 29th 1989
Splatterhouse: April 21 1990
YS III: Dec 31 1991
Dragon Slayer: Dec 31 1992

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: TG16 US release list?]

It has dates for TG-16 games?  Where'd they come up with those?

Yea,it has the dates, but I'm not sure if they're correct.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: TG16 US release list?]

There's an app called game vault that has the dates of released games.  I use it to see what I have, I'm not sure if they have all PCE and TG games, but all the games I've added they have had and the dates released.  It goes as far as dates for different regions.

[Off-Topic / Re: The mess on your desk...]

Nice duo you got there. What is that yellow thing?

It's actually white, lol.  In the picture it looks yellow for some reason.

Logitec G600 MMO mouse.

[Off-Topic / Re: Back In My Play]

Now that you mention it, he does have a 'patreon' thing set up where you can give a certain amount of money per episode, as he does two podcasts.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: What Turbo game are you currently playing?]

Alien Crush and Devils Crush are amazing pinball games, hopefully picking up a copy of Dragon Slayer, the game kicks ass, I've been trying out Monster Lair and still trying to get through Neutopia, soon!!! >

Dragon Slayer is good, but by god the voice acting!

[Off-Topic / Re: Back In My Play]

I've listened to several of the episodes, and I want to like it a lot more than I do.  It sounds to me like the host  *REALLY* wishes that he was about 10 years older so that he would have lived through the stuff that he talks about.  The show needs someone older to sit in as a co-host.  As it is, they just sound like 20-something hipsters who try too hard to make themselves sound legit.  I remember the host, in an early episode, saying that he "totally remembers the SNES launch" because when he was FIVE YEARS OLD his mom took him to the mall where they had some set up.  Based on a lot of stuff that he's said both on the show, and on the Neo-Geo forums that he was frequenting before he was run off, it sounds like he just recently got into retrogaming and is just buying shit up on eBay as fast as he can. 

I haven't listened in a long time, but in the early episodes there were three dudes.  The host I don't care much for, and then there's some snarky hipster dude that I also didn't like, but the third guy had a pretty thick southern twang to his voice.  That guy I liked a lot.  He should have his own show.

Bottom line: What makes these shows enjoyable for me are hosts with knowledge, experience, and a passion for old games.  That's what makes Game Sack so great.  They lived through that shit, and seemingly never quit playing the old stuff, while also getting into the new stuff.  So they have a vast knowledge that comes from years of experience.  You can't buy that on eBay.

Yea, I do find it funny that he's younger than me and I'm 30.  I mean you can still remember playing these games at a really young age, but like you said the Game sack guys where in their teen or early 20's during the era.

I mean you can't blame him for being young during that era and wanting to 'relive' it again as if he was a teen at that time and not 5.

Another good show is retronauts as all of them have or are in the game business for a long time.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: New Gamasutra Article - TG16 Turns 25]

I was lucky enough to have 2 small video game stores when I was young that imported Japanese games so I got to play some of them, but not many TG16.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: What Turbo game are you currently playing?]

Dragon slayer.

It's your prototypical jrpg of that time. It's a fun game and challenging but the voice acting is so bad.

[Off-Topic / Back In My Play]

I was wondering if anyone else listens to this podcast?  I really like it as it's all about retro video games.  He does a really good job and has interviews with some of the industry guys back in the day.  It's worth a listen.

[Off-Topic / Re: The mess on your desk...]

[Off-Topic / Re: Game Sack]

Another great episode guys!

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Duo screen burn in]

That happened to me when playing Bonks Revenge recently. I saw the outlines of the hearts in you life bar for a couple hours after. Had me worried till it went away. My TV is and LCD that I bought this past black friday, so it can happen on newer TVs too.

Yea, I was worried if I hooked it to my new TV it would do the same a ruin it and I didn't want that.  But it's nice to know that it goes away.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Dragon Slayer.]

So I started playing DS and man it's a pretty tough game.  The battle system reminds me of Dragon quest, nothing flashy, but it's pretty unforgiving.  It's a pretty good game, but the voice overs are laughably bad, but the music is actually pretty damn good.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Duo screen burn in]

LCD has screen retention. After the screen ages, you'll begin to see what looks like a burned in image, especially high contrast stuff. It'll go away after a short while. There is no permanent damage. I notice this on my computer screen from 2004.

Thanks Joe.  That's good to know.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Duo screen burn in]

I've never heard of screen burn on an LCD. CRT and plasma, but not LCD. Crazy stuff there, man.

Yea, I'm playing Dragon slayer and it leaves stuck pixels all over, so I have to run a burn in fix on YT which works, but it really sucks how it's doing this.

I have an older LCD monitor I'm gonna try, maybe it's this one.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Duo screen burn in]

Hey ya guys.

So I got my Duo all set up running through my XRGB Mini via the regular composit, but after a couple hours of play I noticed significant screen burn in on my PC monitor. 

I ran some youtube burn fix and that did the job, but now I'm worried firing it up again and it doing the same thing.

My monitor is a 1444p IPS monitor, it's only 2 years old.  I'm just wondering if there is anything I can do about it.

I don't know if the RGB mini its self or if there are any option i'm using that is causing this problem.

[General Gaming / Re: XRGB Mini 8 pin Adapter cable - Passive or Sync Stripper??]

Have any of you had burn in using the Mini?  I connected my Duo to it and used it on my PC but it left petty bad burn in,

I'm not too sure why since I've never had anything burn in.

[Console Repair/Mod Center / Re: File cabinet needs reformatted]

Before pressing RUN (which starts/loads CD-ROM), press SELECT.


Format your saves (file cabinet).

Awesome!

[Console Repair/Mod Center / File cabinet needs reformatted]

SO I got my duo up and running, but when I try to play dragon slayer or YS it tells me I can't save because my file cabinet needs reformatted, and to put in the system card?

Is there anything special I need to do?  I thouhgt I didn't need a system card with the Duo?

Thanks

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: New Gamasutra Article - TG16 Turns 25]

It seems like nec us was managing the tg16 horribly and when they finally try to
Right the wrongs Nec Jp said screw it.

[Off-Topic / Re: What are YOU watching on YouTube.com?]

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: New Gamasutra Article - TG16 Turns 25]

Wow, that was a great read, especially if you didn't know a lot of the history behind the TG16.

It's really sad how badly NEC managed the TG16 in the US.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

Not Turbo but I was so dumbfounded by this listing that I had to share it. That game? $95? Really? I mean, it blew my mind when I was young. But that doesn't mean that it warrants blowing my wallet on it 25 years later. Sheesh.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sega-Genesis-Game-Golden-Axe-Game-Cartridge-in-Box-w-Manual-/400770103216?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item5d4fc277b0

Uh what? I got that game boxed for like $2 not even a year ago. What kind of crack smoke are these people smoking? It looks like someone wants 13 grand for a complete magical chase. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magical-Chase-TurboGrafx-16-TG16-COMPLETE-CIB-MINT-HOLY-GRAIL-NTSC-U-/311012474307?pt=Video_Games_Games&hash=item4869c9bdc3

Why pay 12k when you get get it for 5k?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Magical-Chase-TurboGrafx-16-TG16-US-Version-NTSC-Hu-Card-and-manual-/191206603598?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c84cd3b4e

LOL

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Your new TG16/CD collection purchases for the month?]

People posting their pick ups and price asking if they bought at a good price feels very Nintendo Age IMO 

What do you want me to do? 

I get it I have not been collecting turbo stuff for over 20 years like a lot of you, but there is nothing I can do about that now, so asking if it's a good deal from people who know is helpful to me. I'm pretty damn frugal with my money, so spending a lot of money kills me. 

I'm just trying to find good games and good deals so I can pop em in and enjoy.

Believe me, in the past month I've been going all around the city looking for TG16 stuff, from Flea markets, Thrift Stores, and Garbage sales.  I check Ebay and see what the price that are non BiN go for, so I do my homework when buying stuff before I shell out money.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Your new TG16/CD collection purchases for the month?]

I paid $100 for Dragon Slayer and 68 for YS III.  I checked ebay prices and it seems to be a good 30+ cheap for both of these.  Did I do good?

They've been selling for less on eBay lately, so yeah, the local game store did do very well.

Hmm, where are you seeing that it's cheaper than 100 for the US version?

NM, so the median price is 106, so paid a little under that.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: What PC-Engine Stuff did you get today?]

What's a fair price for Cotton?

[Off-Topic / Re: Anyone going to the upcoming retro gaming expos?]

And don't forget about Octurbofest on October 18th. 
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=17557.0

Hmm, this is cool.  I can do this one since it's close to my sister who lives in the city of Chicago.

Your sister is welcome to come as well...

Yea, I don't think she would, lol.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Your new TG16/CD collection purchases for the month?]

Splatterhouse, Keith Courage, and star parodier are one their way.

I also picked up just now Dragon Slayer and YS III at a local game store which had a bunch for PCE games and only 2 English titles.

I paid $100 for Dragon Slayer and 68 for YS III.  I checked ebay prices and it seems to be a good 30+ cheap for both of these.  Did I do good?

Also, what is a JP version of Cotton worth  They have one there I could get for 65?

[Off-Topic / Re: Anyone going to the upcoming retro gaming expos?]

And don't forget about Octurbofest on October 18th. 
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=17557.0

Hmm, this is cool.  I can do this one since it's close to my sister who lives in the city of Chicago.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Will we see prices level out?]

Prices right now seem to be crazy high, and this is not just Turbografx stuff, but SNES, Sega Saturn, and other retro consoles.  Even the stuff that isn't 'rare' is double or even more than it was a couple years back.

Do you guys think the prices will eventually level out, once resellers move out and the gouging stops?  Or are we in for these prices for the foreseeable future?

Part of me thinks it's here to stay since these games are not getting any newer, and over the years people lose stuff or it breaks.

Anyways, what say you?

I don´t think prices will ever significantly drop in the future. TG and PCE are now vintage items, hence there is a price rise. Whether it is justified or not, prices will continue to rise and might rise into heights we probably now just have a mere imagination of.

And since we´re talking about vintage items, they will have a certain base price point that is dictated by their rarity, age and of course, availability to a certain market. If you live in Japan you will be happier than in the EU, since you pay less for items in general.

It is the same with classic cars. They never drop in price, they cost you money to drive them, they cost you money to stay in good shape (so does a game console, unless you can service it yourself), and they become more and more expensive due to less and less available original parts and of course generally models in running condition. There´s no way around it.

So I expect to rise certain games and items to become more and more expensive within the coming years. So I´d better start with the more rare items and purchase the less expensive ones later, since they are way more common and will stay common, hence become less expensive over a longer period of time.

Just my 2 cents. Anybody else perhaps with a different opinion?

I agree with you, just like you said the price for vintage cars just keep going up as the years pass by, and since none of these games are in production and haven't been for over 20 years now, I don't see prices really dropping, especially for rare titles.  The commons ones probably won't move all that much.

[Off-Topic / Re: Anyone going to the upcoming retro gaming expos?]

Which are the best ones?

I heard the Portland one is really good.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Your new TG16/CD collection purchases for the month?]

I don't know how much it goes for nowadays, but back in 2004 I got mine for around $500 (on ebay).

So probably 5x now, lol.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Your new TG16/CD collection purchases for the month?]

...and today was a new day and I got myself Nexzr (first release), including the spine and the registration card. So 2 down and 10 to go on my (initial) want list.

What's a factory sealed Turbo Duo go for now?

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: WTB: Turbo Duo US Box.]

I thought the boxes had the serial numbers on them?

I don't care if it matches really, I just want a box for it.

[Off-Topic / Re: Anyone going to the upcoming retro gaming expos?]

I'll be at Retropalooza along with Cdamm from Windy Gaming - we'll be working the sales floor most of the time but come on by and say hey if you're there.

A lot of us are on the Museum staff for the Midwest Gaming Classic (Matti, Bartre, Josh, BlueBMW, Nectarsis + others), so if you're interested in PCE stuff at shows, that's probably the one you'll want to go to.

Cool, my sister live in Chicago which isn't far from the even, maybe an hour drive.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Will we see prices level out?]

After 20 yrs. most CDs and a high percentage of carts will start to become unplayable.

Upon what empirical evidence do you base this belief?  There are game cartridges that are already 20 years older than 16-bit game carts and music CDs at least 10 years older than 16-bit game CDs, yet very few of 'em have failed.

When I clicked on this I honestly thought that this was the last thread like this with the identical title. I was curious to see what it would have been bumped with.

Heh, me too.  Looking at old threads is for suckers! 

I have never had an old CD or cart base game fail on me after years of use.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Will we see prices level out?]

I started a thread asking a similar question 
https://www.pcengine-fx.com/forums/index.php?topic=16341.0

Didn't want to bump a old topic, and didn't see it, lol.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Will we see prices level out?]

Prices right now seem to be crazy high, and this is not just Turbografx stuff, but SNES, Sega Saturn, and other retro consoles.  Even the stuff that isn't 'rare' is double or even more than it was a couple years back.

Do you guys think the prices will eventually level out, once resellers move out and the gouging stops?  Or are we in for these prices for the foreseeable future?

Part of me thinks it's here to stay since these games are not getting any newer, and over the years people lose stuff or it breaks.

Anyways, what say you?

[Off-Topic / Anyone going to the upcoming retro gaming expos?]

Is anyone going to try and get to the Classic Gaming Expo in Vegas, Retro palooza in Dallas, or Retro Gaming Expo in Portland this year?

I really want to go, but 2 are coming up quick like this week and next, but Portland isn't for another month, so I might try and go to that one.

[NEC Console Resource / Re: Hey from Vegas]

Hello,

Are you going to the classic gaming expo this weekend?

I should have looked and booked a weekend when this was going on, sigh

[Buy/Sell/Trade / Re: WTB: Turbo Duo US]

Well I found for a decent price, that wasn't over priced.

But I need a box, so if anyone is willing to sell me their box that would be awesome, if not I'll keep searching.

Thanks guys!

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Turbo Gouging on Ebay ( r.i.p. - gouging much )]

https://sanantonio.craigslist.org/vgm/4647988827.html

Glade to see he doesn't take it to the flea market. As it is so rare and expensive.

It's also up on Ebay.  He also sold the box by itself for like $270

[General Gaming / Re: Making Room for your Console/Game Collection]

I have my Wii U and soon to be PS4 under my HDTV, but my SNES and soon to be Duo is going to be connected through my framemeister attached to my PC monitor.

Is the Framemeister all it's cracked up to be?

It is, especially if you're playing on a new HDTV or PC monitor.  Also, if you have it RGB Mod it's even better.  Yea, it's around 350, but it's worth and I don't have to have an old heavy CRT in my apartment and a lot of clutter.

[General Gaming / Re: Making Room for your Console/Game Collection]

I have my Wii U and soon to be PS4 under my HDTV, but my SNES and soon to be Duo is going to be connected through my framemeister attached to my PC monitor.

[PCE/TG-16|CD/SGX Discussion / Re: Your new TG16/CD collection purchases for the month?]

Damn, nice pick up.

Ive' done Flea markets and garage sales, but you can't ever find anything there.