Rondo vs Dracula XX in detail

awack · 08/01/2009, 06:04 PM

QuoteHow does he appear on the SNES version?

Its completely different, the only thing behind him are the curtains.

Arkhan Asylum · 08/01/2009, 10:35 PM

Maybe hes wearing marble tile knee pads.

Tatsujin · 08/02/2009, 02:03 AM

now, this makes the drac xx not even a budget drac x but a super cheap 90% off summer bargain sale.

awack · 08/02/2009, 09:34 AM

I'm not showing every death frame of the giant skeleton from Rondo, just giving an idea.

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This is to show how the fire will trail behind Richter and not just stick to him like it does in Dracxx.

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Animation of shaft and his Dracxx counter part, not counting the last screenshot of shaft, there is only one duplicate frame(normal standing frame)

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esteban · 08/02/2009, 01:45 PM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 08/02/2009, 02:03 AMnow, this makes the drac xx not even a budget drac x but a super cheap 90% off summer bargain sale.

AB-SO-LOOT-LEE.

These comparisons are so much fun.

Arkhan Asylum · 08/02/2009, 03:59 PM

when i was little we had drac x and i thought it was the best thing ever.

and then my uncle who gave me his turbo had him some drac x (Pirated WOOOO) and let me play that and im like "this is the same game, only better? OK!" lol

I learned early on that PCE was king

awack · 08/03/2009, 09:43 AM

Holy water and stop watch.

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Dracula XX stop watch item crash spins around Richter causing damage to enemies, Rondo's stop watch item crash will home in on enemy characters causing damage.

pce snes

DracXX holy water item crash just appears on screen as you see in the screens below, Rondo's holy water item crash starts out starts out slow and then fills the screen, look at the last Rondo screen, there is actually about double the rain on screen when viewed in motion, it alternates between two set of sprites, giving it a transparent effect.

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Rondo's rain will set enemy characters on fire.

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Nazi NecroPhile · 08/04/2009, 05:41 PM

And now for your viewing pleasure, some animated gifs:

/wolfapproachpce.gif /wolfattackpce.gif /wolfdeathpce.gif

/wolfapproachsnes.gif /wolfattacksnes.gif /wolfdeathsnes.gif

The PCE version is on the top, right where it belongs.

Arkhan Asylum · 08/04/2009, 06:22 PM

that last one is so funny.

its like 40 frames for PCE and 3 for SNES

awack · 08/04/2009, 10:15 PM

Just to put things in perspective, this is comparing rondo and castlevania IV.

A few frames might be missing from the castlevania IV death, a hell of a lot are missing from the rondo death, like blood, rotating scythe and cycles.

I might add a few more shots of comparing rondo to SCVIV and that will be it.

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Arkhan Asylum · 08/04/2009, 11:43 PM

Now were just beating a dead horse.

Yknow someone should do Ghouls and ghosts for SGFX and SNES or genesis

awack · 08/05/2009, 10:21 AM

Again, for comparative reasons and to show that Drac xx is not a bad game at all when it comes to this stuff, its just that when viewed in the light of Rondo, the things that are missing become very bright.

This is just to show simple animation, as you can see, SCVIV has animation no better than than the 8bit castlevania games when it comes to standard enemies.

Like i said, this will be it for now, some time in the future i might combine this stuff with comments about gameplay, music etc in a single post and call it the definitive comparison.

rondo castlevania IV

QuoteYknow someone should do Ghouls and ghosts for SGFX and SNES or genesis

i can do a couple between genesis and sg GNG.

esteban · 08/05/2009, 11:21 AM

Quote from: awack on 08/05/2009, 10:21 AMLike i said, this will be it for now, some time in the future i might combine this stuff with comments about gameplay, music etc in a single post and call it the definitive comparison.

I like the SCIV comparisons! It would be neat to continue them... But all of this is a lot of work.

You're gonna hate me, but I propose the following comparisons:

1. Castlevania Bloodlines (Genesis) vs. ____________ (SNES) vs. Rondo (already done).
2. Contra HardCorps (Genesis) vs. __________ (SNES)

Hey, I can dream, can't I?

You see, Genesis fanboys always tout these titles (which are, indeed, fine games), but I would love to see how things actually stack up. I equally love Genesis and SNES, so I think I'm neutral on these sorts of comparisons... but I'm a sucker for anything PCE

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awack · 08/05/2009, 02:54 PM

QuoteYknow someone should do Ghouls and ghosts for SGFX and SNES or genesis

Everything is so much simpler and easier when compared to rondo, the only action game i can think of that can compete, would be the adventure of batman & robin for the genesis.

pce sg genesis

QuoteYou're gonna hate me, but I propose the following comparisons:

The pce and snes emulators i am using, make things much easier, i don't know of a genesis emu thats worth a damn when it comes to features.

Arkhan Asylum · 08/05/2009, 09:09 PM

those GnG pics are great. Lol. the puny genesis animations suck ..

CrackTiger · 08/05/2009, 09:24 PM

Quote from: awack on 08/05/2009, 02:54 PMEverything is so much simpler and easier when compared to rondo, the only action game i can think of that can compete, would be the adventure of batman & robin for the genesis.

Beyond Oasis may not have the same variety for sprites, but it's likely on par with Rondo for overall frames of sprite animation.

The MD GnG may not be as detailed overall, but it does make great use of color for an early simplified Genesis port.

Arkhan Asylum · 08/06/2009, 05:33 AM

Yes . Ghouls and Ghosts was one of the games i played alot on sega, and i always did like its graphics.

It was one of the first genesis games i became freakishly addicted to.

That and Ecco the dolphin

awack · 08/10/2009, 12:27 PM

QuoteI like the SCIV comparisons! It would be neat to continue them... But all of this is a lot of work.

Castlevania IV has very very little of the effect animations i have been showing, it does have mode 7 and transparency fx, other than a couple of instances, castlevania IV is not a very flashy game in my opinion.

I can show basic animation like walk, swing, stab, etc...but the comparison would become skewed.

Here is an example.

rondo

CVIV

esteban · 08/10/2009, 04:08 PM

Quote from: awack on 08/10/2009, 12:27 PMCastlevania IV has very very little of the effect animations i have been showing, it does have mode 7 and transparency fx, other than a couple of instances, castlevania IV is not a very flashy game in my opinion.

I can show basic animation like walk, swing, stab, etc...but the comparison would become skewed.

rondo

Oh dear Lord, I thought CVIV had more polish (spritewise) than that.

Still, it would be neat to put the best of CVIV up here, just to see how it stacks up against Rondo.

awack · 08/10/2009, 09:23 PM

QuoteStill, it would be neat to put the best of CVIV up here, just to see how it stacks up against Rondo.

I don't really know what the best of castlevania IV would be, i know that fans of the game consider Gaibon and Death to be two of the best enemies , Gaibon being reused in future games.

If there is something in particular in castlevania IV thats on your mind let me know.

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SCVIV

Tatsujin · 08/11/2009, 01:47 AM

i love that final taurus shô-ryû-ken like attack since ever! one of the most stylish things in history of video games!

shubibiman · 08/11/2009, 05:56 AM

Yeah, this "fatality" is just awesome.

awack · 08/12/2009, 07:10 PM

Nothing new, i just wanted to try and complete some of the existing rips.

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QuoteBeyond Oasis may not have the same variety for sprites, but it's likely on par with Rondo for overall frames of sprite animation.

Thats a nice game for sure.

awack · 08/12/2009, 11:25 PM

This is kinda interesting, showing the horse from NITM for the sega saturn and the ones from rondo.

pce saturn

Joe Redifer · 08/13/2009, 01:28 AM

The pink background makes the Saturn sprites look garish. Try a black background for fairness' sake.

awack · 08/13/2009, 02:50 AM

QuoteThe pink background makes the Saturn sprites look garish. Try a black background for fairness' sake.

I don't have NITM but what i can do more easily is put the rondo sprite on a pink background.That was good suggestion, you can definitely tell the difference now.

pce saturn

Tatsujin · 08/13/2009, 06:32 AM

lol..pce 4 da win

shubibiman · 08/13/2009, 11:17 AM

The PCE horses are sooo stylish!

Nazi NecroPhile · 08/13/2009, 11:28 AM

Though the PCE colors look washed out on the hot pink background, the horses are far more detailed, particularly in the rib cage and rear haunch. Plus, the Saturn horse's tail makes it look like the poor bugger is mangy.

Tatsujin · 08/13/2009, 01:19 PM

Quote from: guest on 08/13/2009, 11:28 AMlike the poor bugger is mangy.

awack · 08/13/2009, 02:05 PM

I'm adding some pics of a real horse to show they got the anatomy of a running horse wrong in the saturn game.

The more i mess around with this stuff, the more i realise those konami guys didn't screw around with this rondo of blood game.

pce saturn

Tatsujin · 08/13/2009, 02:46 PM

lol..damn good idea

and again pce ftw

the pce s almost perfect while saturn probably used horses not from this planet.

especially the two right moves are hilarious wrong

look at the legs. so retared

awack · 08/13/2009, 04:18 PM

Quotethe pce s almost perfect while saturn probably used horses not from this planet.

Yea, i added another shot of rondo with the 2nd horse taken out for a better comparison, you can see that they match almost perfectly.

I don't want people visiting here to think I'm just just trying to show how awesome the pce is or anything like that, id like to do a comparison where the snes game karate chops the pce port in the neck.

Joe Redifer · 08/13/2009, 05:00 PM

Just curious, where in the Saturn game is the horse?

shubibiman · 08/13/2009, 05:10 PM

I was about to ask the same question but I guess it's just at the beginning as you can choose between Alucard, Maria or Richter.

QuoteI'm adding some pics of a real horse to show they got the anatomy of a running horse wrong in the saturn game.

It seems that they actually used those famous pictures to draw the horses in Rondo of Awesome Blood!

awack · 08/13/2009, 05:35 PM

Yep, in the beginning.

CrackTiger · 08/13/2009, 06:56 PM

Quote from: awack on 08/13/2009, 02:05 PMThe more i mess around with this stuff, the more i realise those konami guys didn't screw around with this rondo of blood game.

I know I've mentioned it before, but it's becoming more and more clear just how under appreciated the game is with so much frivolous over-detail that's piled on top of an already solid game.

awack · 08/14/2009, 05:10 PM

Spinning paintings from Rondo and Portrait of ruin.

Rondo

potrait of ruin

Parodius Da, they appear to hold up well against each other.

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Tatsujin · 08/15/2009, 01:57 AM

wow..the splashing wave looks even much greater on the pce

Joe Redifer · 08/15/2009, 03:35 AM

Why is the right side of the splash clipped off?

shubibiman · 08/15/2009, 05:32 AM

The spinning painting in Rondo is one of the most impressive scenes of the game. Really, the first time I played the game I was like

Tatsujin · 08/15/2009, 09:38 AM

Quote from: shubibiman on 08/15/2009, 05:32 AMThe spinning painting in Rondo is one of the most impressive scenes of the game. Really, the first time I played the game I was like

and the scream, when you've beaten it

esteban · 08/15/2009, 10:21 AM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 08/15/2009, 03:35 AMWhy is the right side of the splash clipped off?

It appears to be symmetrical, but it wouldn't fit on the screen with both parts, so we see left half only.

awack · 08/15/2009, 12:25 PM

Like esteban said, it doesn't fit on the screen.

QuoteThe spinning painting in Rondo is one of the most impressive scenes of the game. Really, the first time I played the game I was like

I agree.

awack · 08/27/2009, 06:17 AM

Showing Richter's whip from Rondo cycle through colors with the last two sprites showing the special extended whip.

The other sprites just show the effect of Richter landing from a high jump or fall, there are more individual sprites as the smoke grows larger and dissipates but i just wanted to show that in rondo there are two sets that alternate or flicker each frame giving it a slightly more substantial and transparent look.

PCE SNES

awack · 10/02/2009, 12:57 PM

Esteban

QuoteI like the SCIV comparisons! It would be neat to continue them... But all of this is a lot of work.

You're gonna hate me, but I propose the following comparisons:

1. Castlevania Bloodlines (Genesis) vs. ____________ (SNES) vs. Rondo (already done).
2. Contra HardCorps (Genesis) vs. __________ (SNES)

Hey, I can dream, can't I?

You see, Genesis fanboys always tout these titles (which are, indeed, fine games), but I would love to see how things actually stack up. I equally love Genesis and SNES, so I think I'm neutral on these sorts of comparisons... but I'm a sucker for anything PCE .

Just a very small contra comparison of the running and explosion animations.

SNES GENESIS

esteban · 10/03/2009, 03:24 AM

Quote from: awack on 10/02/2009, 12:57 PMEsteban
Just a very small contra comparison of the running and explosion animations.
SNES GENESIS

Well, that's very nice, thank you

I prefer the style of the SNES design, myself.

awack · 10/17/2009, 04:38 AM

Few more.

pc engine

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Hair animates on PCE bull.

pc enigne snes

TurboXray · 10/17/2009, 02:59 PM

Nice detail find on the bull. So the SNES bull is shorter horizontally too? I though maybe it was just a walking frame thing, but from the looks of this - it does look like they did make him slightly smaller on the SNES one.

blueraven · 10/17/2009, 03:00 PM

The PCE version is really stunning.

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Rondo vs Dracula XX in detail