PCE, SNES and Genesis Screen Comparison.

[seieienbu]

This thread took me 2 days to finish.  A damn good read though, thanks to everyone for putting so much effort into the screenshots.

[Mathius]

This thread took me 2 days to finish.  A damn good read though, thanks to everyone for putting so much effort into the screenshots.

This is one of those threads one can read once a year like a good book.


...as for the above screenies-I can't decide which is actually better. I like the color in the PCE shots, but enjoy the detail in the MD's. Tie.

[esteban]

This thread took me 2 days to finish.  A damn good read though, thanks to everyone for putting so much effort into the screenshots.

2 days...TWO WEEKS

I have to go back and finish this up (so folks don't have to wade through hundreds of pages here):

Screenshot comparisons...

The problem is that I can't keep ALL THOSE (a few hundred now, it's be over a thousand) screenshots on one page. I'll have to split games up (by genre, I suppose).

[Nando]

This thread took me 2 days to finish.  A damn good read though, thanks to everyone for putting so much effort into the screenshots.

2 days...TWO WEEKS

I have to go back and finish this up (so folks don't have to wade through hundreds of pages here):

Screenshot comparisons...

The problem is that I can't keep ALL THOSE (a few hundred now, it's be over a thousand) screenshots on one page. I'll have to split games up (by genre, I suppose).

Damn, you are doing a great job with those. I hadn't checked it in awhile. Awesome job, thanks for doing that.

[esteban]

This thread took me 2 days to finish.  A damn good read though, thanks to everyone for putting so much effort into the screenshots.

2 days...TWO WEEKS

I have to go back and finish this up (so folks don't have to wade through hundreds of pages here):

Screenshot comparisons...

The problem is that I can't keep ALL THOSE (a few hundred now, it's be over a thousand) screenshots on one page. I'll have to split games up (by genre, I suppose).

Damn, you are doing a great job with those. I hadn't checked it in awhile. Awesome job, thanks for doing that.

MY SLOW ARSE IS too slow. But I'm chipping away at it

[CrackTiger]

People often bring up the PC Engine Arcade Card "Neo Geo ports", but no one ever mentions this one-

Quest of the Jongmaster

NEO GEO	PC Engine

[Mathius]

Wow I haven't ever heard of this game. The PCE even beats out the Neo with its bright colorful graphics in places. To me it seems that the majority of these screens puts the PCE and Neo on equal ground visually.

[Tatsujin]

the PCE is def. closer to the NeoGeo than all the other 8/16bit console.

[shubibiman]

I didn't it actually was a port from the Neogeo version. I always thought they were 2 different games. Thanks ;)

[CrackTiger]

The PCE version actually seems to be expanded upon over the arcade version. I don't know if the Neo Geo CD version has as many modes, but if you choose RPG mode in the PCE version, you get to control your character and walk them around, but in the arcade you just watch the sprite go from point A to B. The cinematics may look bang on, but they're actually redone at a larger size (not just squished horizontally) and touched up as well as the arcade (perhaps better as it looks to have extra anti-aliasing). The first opponent's map sprite wasn't recolored on PCE because of color limitations, it was fixed to match the cinema art.

[NecroPhile]

Heh, nice.  I didn't even know it was a port of a Neo game.  Too bad I don't know how to play mahjong.

[esteban]

People often bring up the PC Engine Arcade Card "Neo Geo ports", but no one ever mentions this one-

Quest of the Jongmaster

NEO GEO	PC Engine

NICE!

Damn, I have so many half-finished things need to complete.

And now I have to add a mahjong section!


https://www.tg-16.com/screenshot_comparisons.htm

[seieienbu]

I think it's interesting that the border was removed.  That seems like an odd thing to remove...

[Nando]

I think it's interesting that the border was removed.  That seems like an odd thing to remove...

Could have been a development thing. Is it really needed for the game? no, scratch it and work on other parts that benefit the game. Or just plain laziness ;)

[awack]

Good comparison, they could have done a better job on the title screen for the pce port.

[_Paul]

I think it's interesting that the border was removed.  That seems like an odd thing to remove...

Probably because of the different resolution, so they could fit more of the actual image in.

[CrackTiger]

I think it's interesting that the border was removed.  That seems like an odd thing to remove...

Probably because of the different resolution, so they could fit more of the actual image in.

They actually redid the cinema shot graphics, which you can see are taller than the view area of the arcade. I think that they just wanted a less arcade feel as the PCE version is expanded to be more console like.

[Ji-L87]

I think it's interesting that the border was removed.  That seems like an odd thing to remove...

Probably because of the different resolution, so they could fit more of the actual image in.

They actually redid the cinema shot graphics, which you can see are taller than the view area of the arcade. I think that they just wanted a less arcade feel as the PCE version is expanded to be more console like.

They just look stretched to me :S
Still, aside from the cheap title screen, a very nice port from the looks of things.

[Mathius]

We have covered most games of interest in this thread. It could even be argued we went a little mad in places too!

Anyone have any ideas on what to compare next? Surely there is something we have missed.

[esteban]

We have covered most games of interest in this thread. It could even be argued we went a little mad in places too!

Anyone have any ideas on what to compare next? Surely there is something we have missed.

Well, because I am Obsessive CompuServe, I wouldn't mind MORE screenshots from SAME games, but LATER stages!  Also, I loved when Arjak really matched up to get the EXACT same location in the two (three) ports he was comparing.

But, since you want a new game... has Populous been done? I can't honestly remember.

OH, WHY OH WHY CAN'T WE SEE A MARBLE MADNESS COMPARISION. Whatever happened to that alleged prototype?

https://www.tg-16.com/screenshot_comparisons.htm

[_Paul]

More PCE vs ARCADE shots. Also PCE vs AMIGA and MASTER SYSTEM & C64 & ZX SPECTRUM!

[Mathius]

More PCE vs ARCADE shots. Also PCE vs AMIGA and MASTER SYSTEM & C64 & ZX SPECTRUM!

Yes! MOAR!

[BigusSchmuck]

How about comparing the Snes Wizardry games to the PCE ones?

[Tatsujin]

More PCE vs ARCADE shots. Also PCE vs AMIGA and MASTER SYSTEM & C64 & ZX SPECTRUM!

Yes! MOAR!

MUCH MUCH MOAR!!!

[CrackTiger]

I don't think that P-47 was done yet. Arcade on top, PCE below:
https://catalog.pcengine-fx.com/#hu2550

P-47 The Freedom Fighter

PC Engine (1989)	Arcade (1988)

It's hard finding undistorted matching screen shots of Cobra II, but here are a couple that indicate that the games are likely as close as they seem during separate playthroughs-


SEGA-CD <------------------------------------------->PCE

[Mathius]

Is the PCE being pushed so hard that it couldn't portray any stars in the background in the bottom right pic? Otherwise pretty close.

[Joe Redifer]

MONSTER WORLD-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


PCE - SMS

Master System looks better.

[Mathius]

Did the Master System version have animated doorways? I can't remember.

[Tatsujin]

MONSTER WORLD-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


PCE - SMS

Master System looks better.

So in that case, the Master System looks also better than the arcade?

[Mathius]

MONSTER WORLD-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


PCE - SMS

Master System looks better.

So in that case, the Master System looks also better than the arcade?

Based on memory I usually can't tell the arcade and PCE versions apart. People always say that R-Type on the PCE was the first great arcade-to-home conversion. I think Monster World might predate this. If that is the case then Monster World would be the first of the many.

[CrackTiger]

Is the PCE being pushed so hard that it couldn't portray any stars in the background in the bottom right pic? Otherwise pretty close.

Those were the closest screens I coukd match up. The arcade version actually has rain. There are extra scenes in the PCE version and two battleship fights. The other one might have been closer to the arcade. The PCE version is very solid, but a bunch of stuff was cut to keep the rom size low and it could have been programmed better to keep stuff like the big hilks intact.

[Tatsujin]

Yeah, f.e. no extra drop bomb explosion animation. no train boss in level 1 etc.

I still think it is a very close port, especially graphical wise. The parallax in lvl2 even looks better than the arcade.

[Tatsujin]

Based on memory I usually can't tell the arcade and PCE versions apart. People always say that R-Type on the PCE was the first great arcade-to-home conversion. I think Monster World might predate this. If that is the case then Monster World would be the first of the many.

That's about right. I very much love the SMS port too. very nice and as good as possible done on the SMS. especially with FM support

[Joe Redifer]

So in that case, the Master System looks also better than the arcade?

Yep.

(sorry about editing your post, I accidentally pressed "Modify" instead of "quote" because I'm a dumbass).

[Tatsujin]

Yep.

well..uhm..okey

(sorry about editing your post, I accidentally pressed "Modify" instead of "quote" because I'm a dumbass).

NP 

[CrackTiger]

Air Zonk vs Zaku


PCE <------------------------------------------> LYNX












Here's some variety of Monsterland pics-



PCE <-------------------------------------------> SMS












Kick Boxing


AMIGA <------------------------------------------------------> PCE













Ballistix


AMIGA <------------------------------------------------------> PCE













Gunboat


AMIGA <------------------------------------------------------> PCE

[Mathius]

Is the PCE being pushed so hard that it couldn't portray any stars in the background in the bottom right pic? Otherwise pretty close.

Those were the closest screens I coukd match up. The arcade version actually has rain. There are extra scenes in the PCE version and two battleship fights. The other one might have been closer to the arcade. The PCE version is very solid, but a bunch of stuff was cut to keep the rom size low and it could have been programmed better to keep stuff like the big hilks intact.

Ah that is rain! Forgive me. I haven't played the game yet.

[esteban]

CRACKTIGER: These comparisons are great!

[Psycho Punch]

Suddenly Gunboat doesn't look so bad.

[CrackTiger]

BLOOD GEAR VS CYBERNATOR















BURAI


PCE ------------------------------------------------------------- MCD ------------------------------------SFC

[HercTNT]

Keep it coming, this is great stuff!

[Joe Redifer]

It's hard to say who wins on Burai, but it's easy to say who lost... the Super Famicom.

[Tatsujin]

Lolyeah

[CrackTiger]

Fighting Street AKA Street Fighter I

Arcade	PC Engine

ARCADE resized to 256 pixels wide <--------------> PCE

[shubibiman]

Once again, it seems that a capcom port is very close in some aspects form the original, as it has already been underlined with Forgotten Worlds some years ago.

[Mathius]

Oddly I think the type font in the PCE version more closely resembles the traditional arcade style than even the actual Street Fighter arcade!

[roflmao]

Oddly I think the type font in the PCE version more closely resembles the traditional arcade style than even the actual Street Fighter arcade!

Nice!  I never would have seen that.

[Joe Redifer]

That's interesting. But they should both be resized to 320 pixels wide as it looks squished compared to what people actually see on the TV. 256 is too narrow. The GIF you provided was really cool. You could probably do the same for the title and there would be very little difference. Talk about "nearly pixel perfect".

[Joe Redifer]

It is an original game. The Lynx game is a rip-off of Air Zonk that was released as homebrew only recently. Kind of like Mysterious Song in that you pay for it as a product, not just download it onto a flash cart.

(ok, after a few seconds I read the rest of your post.)

[turbofan1]

Strange someone would take and ripoff Air Zonk and release it for the atari lynk,but not the turbob.