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futureman2000 · 07/22/2013, 06:31 AM

Wonderboy 3 is one that uses fm for music and psg for the sound effects.
Two games that felt a lot nicer to play with fm were Altered Beast & Vigilante. It's hard to describe, but those were a lot more fun with fm. Altered Beast because it makes the game feel less janky. Vigilante was just more fun with fm- I had never wanted to win it before I played it that way.

Joe Redifer · 07/22/2013, 02:46 PM

I dunno, the bass goes away when I get hit in Wonder Boy 3 I think. At least it does during the boss tune.

BigusSchmuck · 07/22/2013, 02:51 PM

This episode made me really want a Master System...

jeffhlewis · 07/22/2013, 03:38 PM

One day someone is going to acknowledge how timeless Shooting Gallery is for the SMS. I'm serious.

BigusSchmuck · 07/24/2013, 10:51 PM

Hey Joe, just curious on why you guys haven't done a episode on the Atari 7800 and the Colecovision? Hell those would be a great follow up to the Sega Master system episode you guys just did...

Joe Redifer · 07/25/2013, 02:53 PM

Because we don't currently have those.

esteban · 07/25/2013, 04:53 PM

STATUS : my daughter and I started watching GameSack, from the beginning with episode #1.

We are having a blast. This is our second or third day in, and, except for the 1-2 episodes on controllers, she is loving them (I enjoy the discussion on controllers, of course, but I wouldn't torture her).

I didn't realize how much the production values have improved!

Anyway, thus far, I think my most favorite "minor gag" that you guys have done (outside the realm of "major gags" like the FMV episode) is CRAIG STADLER.

Anyway, I'm a broken record in this thread. Good evening, comrades.

roflmao · 07/27/2013, 11:11 PM

Quote from: jeffhlewis on 07/22/2013, 03:38 PMOne day someone is going to acknowledge how timeless Shooting Gallery is for the SMS. I'm serious.

YES!

Mathius · 07/28/2013, 08:43 AM

Quote from: guest on 07/27/2013, 11:11 PM
Quote from: jeffhlewis on 07/22/2013, 03:38 PMOne day someone is going to acknowledge how timeless Shooting Gallery is for the SMS. I'm serious.
YES!

I received Shooting Gallery with my SMS on Christmas back in the 80s. I loved it but could never do well at the game unless I sat right up at the TV while playing. I found a copy of the game two weeks ago and snatched it up immediately. The music brought back so many memories.

jeffhlewis · 07/28/2013, 11:56 PM

Quote from: Mathius on 07/28/2013, 08:43 AM
Quote from: guest on 07/27/2013, 11:11 PM
Quote from: jeffhlewis on 07/22/2013, 03:38 PMOne day someone is going to acknowledge how timeless Shooting Gallery is for the SMS. I'm serious.
YES!
I received Shooting Gallery with my SMS on Christmas back in the 80s. I loved it but could never do well at the game unless I sat right up at the TV while playing. I found a copy of the game two weeks ago and snatched it up immediately. The music brought back so many memories.

I got Shooting Gallery along with the Hang-On/Safari-Hunt pack-in when I got my system in '87 for X-Mas. I wound up playing shooting gallery more than any other game I got until Outrun...few things spark the nostalgia tears in me quite like the music from Shooting Gallery. That damn marble/pipes stage used to drive me nuts. Came close to beating the game a few times, but admittedly I had to stand about 4 inches from the screen.

Joe Redifer · 07/29/2013, 12:33 AM

Shooting Gallery is one tough cookie. We covered it in our Light Phaser vs Zapper episode. It's an interesting game but it's also one that you've gotta really practice at over and over. I can't remember if the game gives you limited ammo, but if not, I suggest investing in a Sega Rapid Fire Unit.

TR0N · 08/04/2013, 02:54 AM

Game Sack Videogame Magazines

For the end all those menus to go through,reminds me of the nintendo hint line.

Mathius · 08/04/2013, 08:44 PM

Damn! That episode really kicked me in my memory glands.

I actually got to meet and hang with Sushi-X and Trickman Terry of EGM fame at the last two MGCs. I got a pic of with them somewhere. I'll have to dig it out. It was a great time as we got to talk about old-style EGM. They gave a great anecdote about the Sheng Long April Fools' Joke. To be honest I can't remember about what they said exactly. It was a year and a half ago and all I can remember is thinking, "I am talking to Sushi and Terry, in person, and they are spilling the beans on famous events that helped shape my childhood." I am sure I fainted somewhere in there too.

Also. Joe, I have to disagree with your comment on EGM not sending games to kids who sent tricks and codes to EGM. I sent a code for Need for Speed on the 3DO back in 94 or 95. It got published and they actually sent me a game! It was Incredible Machine for the 3DO and, to my regret, kinda sucked. I am pretty sure I traded it in somewhere shortly thereafter.

Joe Redifer · 08/05/2013, 12:13 AM

They didn't send me, Chris Bucci and some other people anything. Like I said in the comments section, the policy may have changed when Dan Hsu came aboard. At the VERY BEST they were extremely inconsistent about sending them out, even when people wrote back and reminded them.

Also, Sushi X was not just one individual. Several people wrote under that pseudonym. I think the person who wrote as Sushi X the most is dead now. I remember reading that somewhere a few years back. No clue who Trickman Terry is. I wish people would just write under their own names. No fake pseudonyms, no cartoon drawings hiding their identity. Seems cowardly to me.

Mathius · 08/05/2013, 08:30 AM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 08/05/2013, 12:13 AMThey didn't send me, Chris Bucci and some other people anything. Like I said in the comments section, the policy may have changed when Dan Hsu came aboard. At the VERY BEST they were extremely inconsistent about sending them out, even when people wrote back and reminded them.

Also, Sushi X was not just one individual. Several people wrote under that pseudonym. I think the person who wrote as Sushi X the most is dead now. I remember reading that somewhere a few years back. No clue who Trickman Terry is. I wish people would just write under their own names. No fake pseudonyms, no cartoon drawings hiding their identity. Seems cowardly to me.

Yeah I heard about what they did to Chris Bucci on his DVD. I wasn't saying they always kept their promises. I am just saying they kept their promise at least once.

Trickman Terry was the guy in charge of the Tips and Tricks section.

I was aware that Sushi-X was more than one person. The dude that attends our conventions was around EGM during the early to mid 90s I believe.

jeffhlewis · 08/05/2013, 09:50 AM

Quote from: Mathius on 08/05/2013, 08:30 AMI was aware that Sushi-X was more than one person. The dude that attends our conventions was around EGM during the early to mid 90s I believe.

Mati: IIRC it was Ed Harris we were talking to - I've got that photo floating around somewhere.

Mathius · 08/05/2013, 03:12 PM

Quote from: jeffhlewis on 08/05/2013, 09:50 AM
Quote from: Mathius on 08/05/2013, 08:30 AMI was aware that Sushi-X was more than one person. The dude that attends our conventions was around EGM during the early to mid 90s I believe.
Mati: IIRC it was Ed Harris we were talking to - I've got that photo floating around somewhere.

You are mixing up Steve Harris and Ed Semrad into one Frankenstein-ian individual.

I am 100% sure that it was Sushi-X and Terry.

esteban · 08/05/2013, 06:40 PM

Quote from: Mathius on 08/05/2013, 03:12 PM
Quote from: jeffhlewis on 08/05/2013, 09:50 AM
Quote from: Mathius on 08/05/2013, 08:30 AMI was aware that Sushi-X was more than one person. The dude that attends our conventions was around EGM during the early to mid 90s I believe.
Mati: IIRC it was Ed Harris we were talking to - I've got that photo floating around somewhere.
You are mixing up Steve Harris and Ed Semrad into one Frankenstein-ian individual. I am 100% sure that it was Sushi-X and Terry.

Ed Harris! I didn't know he liked video games. That's kool.

Tatsujin · 08/05/2013, 06:55 PM

HAHAHA!! Same thought, same thought. Ed is one crazy cool mutherfucker.

Mathius · 08/05/2013, 09:14 PM

My favorite movie of his. The Rock.

jeffhlewis · 08/05/2013, 09:37 PM

Quote from: Mathius on 08/05/2013, 03:12 PM
Quote from: jeffhlewis on 08/05/2013, 09:50 AM
Quote from: Mathius on 08/05/2013, 08:30 AMI was aware that Sushi-X was more than one person. The dude that attends our conventions was around EGM during the early to mid 90s I believe.
Mati: IIRC it was Ed Harris we were talking to - I've got that photo floating around somewhere.
You are mixing up Steve Harris and Ed Semrad into one Frankenstein-ian individual. I am 100% sure that it was Sushi-X and Terry.

yep, you're exactly right haha.

Mathius · 08/05/2013, 09:40 PM

Quote from: jeffhlewis on 08/05/2013, 09:37 PM
Quote from: Mathius on 08/05/2013, 03:12 PM
Quote from: jeffhlewis on 08/05/2013, 09:50 AM
Quote from: Mathius on 08/05/2013, 08:30 AMI was aware that Sushi-X was more than one person. The dude that attends our conventions was around EGM during the early to mid 90s I believe.
Mati: IIRC it was Ed Harris we were talking to - I've got that photo floating around somewhere.
You are mixing up Steve Harris and Ed Semrad into one Frankenstein-ian individual. I am 100% sure that it was Sushi-X and Terry.
yep, you're exactly right haha.

Jeff, do you remember what they said regarding the Sheng Long April Fools' code for SF2 SNES?

BigusSchmuck · 08/05/2013, 09:41 PM

I thought for certain you guys would have put in Next Generation into that episode. Especially the issue where Mario is literally falling into glass pieces.

Mathius · 08/05/2013, 09:49 PM

Quote from: BigusSchmuck on 08/05/2013, 09:41 PMI thought for certain you guys would have put in Next Generation into that episode. Especially the issue where Mario is literally falling into glass pieces.

VG&CE and Next Gen were two way underrated mags. RIP.

Gillian Seed · 08/05/2013, 09:55 PM

Of all the magazines you showed I think the one I have the fondest memories of is the Official Dreamcast Magazine. I had the #0 issue I believe it was called and it convinced me to save up for a DC (I was young). It's kind of tragic that I finally saved up all my money for a DC just as SEGA announced they were stopping production.

I took a look at that magazine again a few years ago and it's really good at getting you into the mood of the Dreamcast. The one article I remember in particular was the one about Power Stone, the idea of being able to "use any objects on screen as a weapon" blew my mind. IIRC there were also many, many games that were shown and never released or even talked about much past that issue.

To be honest I read a lot of EGM from like the 32-bit to "128-bit" gen and didn't really like it. I felt like a lot of the writers were very biased. The most recent example I can think of is how they were going on about the PSP wiping the floor with the DS based on screen size and power alone.

Tatsujin · 08/05/2013, 11:18 PM

Quote from: Mathius on 08/05/2013, 09:14 PMMy favorite movie of his. The Rock.

Are you serious? He made a hell of a lot of very great movies.

Mathius · 08/05/2013, 11:40 PM

Quote from: Tatsujin on 08/05/2013, 11:18 PM
Quote from: Mathius on 08/05/2013, 09:14 PMMy favorite movie of his. The Rock.
Are you serious? He made a hell of a lot of very great movies.

Back in the 90s my friends and I would always seem to come back to this one movie. It holds a special place in my heart.

majors · 08/06/2013, 12:47 PM

I love the fact you referenced the VG&CE Turbo "red" issue:

That mag was my first ever gaming mag I bought. You brought back some good memories...

I remember seeing a small blurb for Spriggian in some 90's mag and it mentioned that it will likely never come out stateside. So I call Game Express<?> and ordered it that week.

jeffhlewis · 08/07/2013, 12:24 AM

Think I still have that issue of Game Players floating around here somewhere. That magazine made me really really really want an Amiga, mostly because of the comparison shots in the advertisements between PC, Commodore, Atari ST and Amiga.

Now thanks to the power of YouTube, I'm glad I didn't play 99% of the Amiga arcade translations because they look like absolute garbage in motion.

TR0N · 08/18/2013, 03:35 AM

oUr fAvoRite raCing GAme

turboswimbz · 08/18/2013, 09:25 AM

I love when the guys "sack" racing games. When I was little racing games were some of my favorites.

DAY-ONNNNNA - still my favorite racing game. I use to love the arcade machines.
I need to pick up a Dreamcast and this game.

I picked up F zero at a garage sale when everyone had forgotten about the SNES. Being 10 the best 3 bucks I spent all year. I like that game more than most SNES games.

I also enjoy top gear on the SNES. I know this one is rarely mentioned but I always enjoyed the soundtrack and the tracks and good controls. Even if the graphics were average.

Mathius · 08/18/2013, 08:20 PM

I absolutely love the soundtrack to F-Zero. Something about its music takes me back to Friday nights after school and playing the game with a buddy. Pilotwings' soundtrack has the same effect.

I got to play a Daytona arcade machine 2-player style at MGC this year. My fiance and I had a blast.

Road Rash was a must buy for me on the 3DO back when it was released. I was/am a huge fan of the "Seattle Sound" and that soundtrack fits the style of the game perfectly, so I 100% agree with you there, Joe.

One series of games I would have added would be the Ridge Racer games for the PS1. The original Ridge Racer, though limited, was amazing back in '95. Rage Racer was the perfect update but got a little too challenging towards the end if you don't learn to drift well. I personally like to keep in control and have a tight handling car instead of drifting. RR Type 4 was a late purchase for me and I am finding myself enjoying it more than the other games in the series, even though the tracks aren't as interesting or imaginative. Rage Racer's tracks win in that category. All around great games.

BlueBMW · 08/18/2013, 10:42 PM

Excellent episode! Fzero is one of my top games for sure.

No mention of any of the Gran Turismo games? I played the crap out of GT1 back in the day

futureman2000 · 08/18/2013, 10:43 PM

Quote from: turboswimbz on 08/18/2013, 09:25 AMI love when the guys "sack" racing games. When I was little racing games were some of my favorites.

DAY-ONNNNNA - still my favorite racing game. I use to love the arcade machines.
I need to pick up a Dreamcast and this game.

I picked up F zero at a garage sale when everyone had forgotten about the SNES. Being 10 the best 3 bucks I spent all year. I like that game more than most SNES games.

I also enjoy top gear on the SNES. I know this one is rarely mentioned but I always enjoyed the soundtrack and the tracks and good controls. Even if the graphics were average.

Top gear had a really good 2 player mode, didn't it? I think my brother and I used to play it a lot.

Tatsujin · 08/19/2013, 02:09 AM

Loving arcade racers but no ridge racer love here?

Other than that it was a kewl show

could have hade some more Yu Suzuki inside fo'sho.

turboswimbz · 08/19/2013, 10:49 AM

Quote from: futureman2000 on 08/18/2013, 10:43 PMTop gear had a really good 2 player mode, didn't it? I think my brother and I used to play it a lot.

Yes it did. It wasn't anything super special as it was the same as the 1 player mode for the most part, but it worked really well. Although the frame rates are slower than it could have been due to running two screens at the same time. but it really doesn't hinder game play at all. The only other complaint is the lack of sound test. (seriously listen to the music in this one, it is a bit of surprise) The tracks are pretty good for a SNES game.

It has a slight out run or rad racer feel to it. It is a shame it is overlooked. It's a fun, balanced, challenging racing game. Tons of fun.

Joe Redifer · 08/19/2013, 05:03 PM

Like I said in the comments section, a lot of people are assuming that if it didn't make it into the episode, it gets no love. We had to whittle it down to 11. Ridge Racer 1 on the PS1 is OK but I never really got into it. It wasn't as cool as Daytona. But Rage Racer is extremely awesome, maybe my favorite Ridge Racer game, though Type 4 is amazing as well. That one also came with a high resolution, high frame rate Ridge Racer 1. That was pretty cool, but it was still the same ol' 1 track Ridge Racer. As far as Gran Turismo it always seemed to me like I do more waiting than racing. I want to go fast right now!

esteban · 08/20/2013, 07:01 AM

What? No love for Crash 'n Burn? Joe, you know better.

Joe Redifer · 08/20/2013, 03:29 PM

I'm a monster!

BlueBMW · 08/20/2013, 07:16 PM

You mean you didnt love those early races in gran turismo where youre driving some turd like a cappucino or something with 70 horsepower that still couldnt make turns even at 20mph? That was the best!! ;)

Mathius · 08/20/2013, 07:28 PM

Quote from: esteban on 08/20/2013, 07:01 AMWhat? No love for Crash 'n Burn? Joe, you know better.

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 08/20/2013, 03:29 PMI'm a monster!

I remember going into HH Gregg as a teenager just so I could play Crash and Burn on their Panasonic 3DO. That was during its $700 price phase when it hung out with the Laseractive and CD-i. When the price dropped to $399 my dad got me one one day with his tax check. The morning after the purchase I got up before school at 4 am just to play Crash and Burn for a few solid hours. I'll never forget that. So yes, Joe, your a monster for not being aware of my extended backstories and enthusiastically including CnB as such.

EvilEvoIX · 08/20/2013, 09:37 PM

Quote from: Mathius on 08/20/2013, 07:28 PM
Quote from: esteban on 08/20/2013, 07:01 AMWhat? No love for Crash 'n Burn? Joe, you know better.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 08/20/2013, 03:29 PMI'm a monster!
I remember going into HH Gregg as a teenager just so I could play Crash and Burn on their Panasonic 3DO. That was during its $700 price phase when it hung out with the Laseractive and CD-i. When the price dropped to $399 my dad got me one one day with his tax check. The morning after the purchase I got up before school at 4 am just to play Crash and Burn for a few solid hours. I'll never forget that. So yes, Joe, your a monster for not being aware of my extended backstories and enthusiastically including CnB as such.

I had to do the same in my mall. They only had Tennis but it looked so REAL as they advertised. Strangely enough the 3D0 kiosk was in a specialty camera and film store that sold high end cameras, film, and developed pictures.

esteban · 08/20/2013, 09:41 PM

Quote from: Mathius on 08/20/2013, 07:28 PM
Quote from: esteban on 08/20/2013, 07:01 AMWhat? No love for Crash 'n Burn? Joe, you know better.
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 08/20/2013, 03:29 PMI'm a monster!
I remember going into HH Gregg as a teenager just so I could play Crash and Burn on their Panasonic 3DO. That was during its $700 price phase when it hung out with the Laseractive and CD-i. When the price dropped to $399 my dad got me one one day with his tax check. The morning after the purchase I got up before school at 4 am just to play Crash and Burn for a few solid hours. I'll never forget that. So yes, Joe, your a monster for not being aware of my extended backstories and enthusiastically including CnB as such.

Joe s still working on the Cd-i Special....

Psycho Punch · 09/01/2013, 02:44 AM

Games that need Sequels!

Hell yes Return Fire! It's a great game, gotta love the frustrating chess table map. The single mode is good but the meat of the game comes from the multiplayer mode, the manual of Return Fire lists the single player mode as a "Training Mode" actually haha.

TR0N · 09/01/2013, 03:04 AM

Quote from: guest on 09/01/2013, 02:44 AMGames that need Sequels!
Hell yes Return Fire! It's a great game, gotta love the frustrating chess table map. The single mode is good but the meat of the game comes from the multiplayer mode, the manual of Return Fire lists the single player mode as a "Training Mode" actually haha.

Watched it shining force really could use a proper sequel.Nintendo has no problem keeping fire emblem going,i don't know why sega can't do the same for shining force.

c0ldb33r · 09/02/2013, 03:47 PM

My wife and I love watching game sack vids.

The great thing is that game sack videos entertain our 3 month old like nothing else. I think its the brights colours in the old games. We don't let him watch TV but he does see these occasionally.

Mathius · 09/06/2013, 10:49 PM

A true sequel to Actraiser would probably top my list, as long as Yuzo Koshiro returns to do the soundtrack.

Tatsujin · 09/07/2013, 12:43 AM

seekualls

Joe Redifer · 09/07/2013, 01:14 AM

Quote from: Mathius on 09/06/2013, 10:49 PMA true sequel to Actraiser would probably top my list, as long as Yuzo Koshiro returns to do the soundtrack.

Sure, as long as it had the god segments. Also, Yuzo is cool but when he returned to do part 2's soundtrack, he decided not to be cool. I think he was either depressed or something then (that was also the Streets of Rage 3 era I believe).

Mathius · 09/07/2013, 09:37 AM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 09/07/2013, 01:14 AM
Quote from: Mathius on 09/06/2013, 10:49 PMA true sequel to Actraiser would probably top my list, as long as Yuzo Koshiro returns to do the soundtrack.
Sure, as long as it had the god segments. Also, Yuzo is cool but when he returned to do part 2's soundtrack, he decided not to be cool. I think he was either depressed or something then (that was also the Streets of Rage 3 era I believe).

Yep. God segments are a must. Hopefully Yuzo would be in a good mood. Anything but the best from him wouldn't do.

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