Game Sack

Arkhan Asylum · 12/09/2013, 04:58 PM

No Sports Talk Baseball?

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Xak · 12/09/2013, 06:07 PM

Tecmo Super Bowl on the genesis is an entirely different game than teh SNES version. The GEN version is faster, characters are more well proportioned and much funner to play. Its the best 2player game of the NES vs GEN vs SNES versions of Tecmo SUPER Bowl (not Tecmo Bowl). But the NES version is the funnest to play single player since its not super easy like the Genesis version.

Phase · 12/10/2013, 01:17 AM

Good episode, I would have liked to see madden 3do and Duo thrown in there just for fun.
How about a non realistic sports games episode sometime in the future like 20/20 baseball teleroboxer nbajam and other goofy games. I've never played mutant league but i remember the adds in egm . Anyone remember fifa soccer for 3do with the giant ball code? lolz

futureman2000 · 12/10/2013, 08:53 AM

Quote from: guest on 12/09/2013, 04:58 PMNo Sports Talk Baseball?

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Didn't they talk about sports talk baseball? He said it sounded like a speak & spell.

JoshTurboTrollX · 12/10/2013, 10:15 AM

Quote from: futureman2000 on 12/10/2013, 08:53 AM
Quote from: guest on 12/09/2013, 04:58 PMNo Sports Talk Baseball?

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Didn't they talk about sports talk baseball? He said it sounded like a speak & spell.

Yes they did. Ark doesn't actually watch videos he blams on here.

I think one could do an entire episode about retro baseball games! Sad to see no NES Baseballs Stars or Baseball Simulator 1.000 mentioned. Those games are so brilliant!!

ccovell · 12/10/2013, 08:14 PM

Not a bad sports episode.

True story: On summer vacation in Washington State ~1992, my brother and dad decided to rent an NES & sports game to play at our motel. The game they chose: Bases Loaded II. They played for only 30 minutes before all three of us were driven crazy by the horrible, horrible "music". We went right back to the video store and the nice lady there let us trade it for another title at no extra charge. (Wayne Gretzky Hockey was the replacement.)

Trivia time: Pat Riley's Basketball on the Genesis, Takin' it to the Hoop on the Turbo, and Ultimate Basketball on the NES were all basically the same game, developed by Aicom. You can easily tell from the very similar close-ups during shots on the net.

Psycho Punch · 12/10/2013, 08:26 PM

Yeah I definitely noted the similarities in the close up shots. Pretty interesting, never played the Pat Riley and Ultimate Basketball games.

Xak · 12/10/2013, 08:36 PM

Segas NFL2k1 used to be my all time favorite sports game, its now 2k5. The deepest franchise mode is like football RPG, rpg like character growth, fluid gameplay , realistic stats, its a modern day Tecmo Super Bowl.

Joe Redifer · 12/11/2013, 01:35 AM

Quote from: ccovell on 12/10/2013, 08:14 PMTrivia time: Pat Riley's Basketball on the Genesis, Takin' it to the Hoop on the Turbo, and Ultimate Basketball on the NES were all basically the same game, developed by Aicom. You can easily tell from the very similar close-ups during shots on the net.

Interesting to know! Did they make the Pat Riley prototype on the SMS as well? If I recall, that one doesn't have any close-ups. Just today I procured the ever-popular TV Sports Basketball. Mighty game indeed. ;) I also just took delivery of the incredible World Class Baseball. In many ways it looks just like Tommy Lasorda Baseball. I have to assume the same developers made it. I haven't played the JP version but the US version only has two voices "Seeaa" (safe) and "Outo" (out). Did they just remove the rest because they were in Japanese? I know with Tommy Lasorda, the JP version has Japanese voices and everything was re-recorded in English for the US release. I'm sure Tommy Lasorda directed the recording sessions if not voiced them himself.

Tatsujin · 12/11/2013, 06:04 AM

Takin' it to da poop!!

majors · 12/11/2013, 09:37 AM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/11/2013, 01:35 AMI also just took delivery of the incredible World Class Baseball.

WCB does nothing wrong IMO for a 1st gen sports game (I can forgive lack of real teams and player names). The gem in that game is base stealing. Two player game becomes a total meta game of leading out from bases and racing the ball. Fuck a bunch of hitting and catching balls.

Joe Redifer · 12/11/2013, 03:18 PM

The LAST things I care about are real teams or players. I would like it if Denver was represented somehow, though. And Denver always needs to be something cool like the Ninjas or the Deadly Assassins.

esteban · 12/11/2013, 06:17 PM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/11/2013, 03:18 PMThe LAST things I care about are real teams or players. I would like it if Denver was represented somehow, though. And Denver always needs to be something cool like the Ninjas or the Deadly Assassins.

STATUS: NJ would be the NinJas. Just sayin'.

Trü storie.

ToyMachine78 · 12/14/2013, 10:04 AM

The Sports episode sucked no offense. Who gives a crap about 20 year old sports games! Y'all must be running out of ideas.

Xak · 12/14/2013, 11:09 AM

Im surprised you compared Tecmo Bowl to the Genny and SNES Tecmo Super, but the NES Tecmo Super is actually better than all of those games, gameplay wise.

The Genesis one is the best programmed one and it has "to scale" graphics and smooth animation and control, it sucks that the AI is too easy, so its only good for 2Player play.

I hated Tecmo Super Bowl 2 & 3 for both systems. Lol and I used to have the 'rare' TSB2 on genesis, still sucked IMO.

BigusSchmuck · 12/14/2013, 06:25 PM

I'm surprised you guys didn't review Punchout, Arch Rivals, Pigskin Football, NBA Jam, and NFL Blitz! Never the less, it was refreshing to see old classics like Tecmo Bowl and Bases Loaded, those brought back some good memories...

Joe Redifer · 12/14/2013, 07:54 PM

Quote from: guest on 12/14/2013, 10:04 AMThe Sports episode sucked no offense. Who gives a crap about 20 year old sports games! Y'all must be running out of ideas.

Your comment is what sucks. So far in just under a week 17,946 people have cared about sports games. The accusation that we're running out of ideas was uncalled for. Seems like it was a good idea so far.

Mathius · 12/14/2013, 08:05 PM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/14/2013, 07:54 PM
Quote from: guest on 12/14/2013, 10:04 AMThe Sports episode sucked no offense. Who gives a crap about 20 year old sports games! Y'all must be running out of ideas.
Your comment is what sucks. So far in just under a week 17,946 people have cared about sports games. The accusation that we're running out of ideas was uncalled for. Seems like it was a good idea so far.

It's just his opinion, Joe. You can't please everyone.

sirhcman · 12/14/2013, 08:15 PM

Quote from: Mathius on 12/14/2013, 08:05 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/14/2013, 07:54 PM
Quote from: guest on 12/14/2013, 10:04 AMThe Sports episode sucked no offense. Who gives a crap about 20 year old sports games! Y'all must be running out of ideas.
Your comment is what sucks. So far in just under a week 17,946 people have cared about sports games. The accusation that we're running out of ideas was uncalled for. Seems like it was a good idea so far.
It's just his opinion, Joe. You can't please everyone.

Mathius if he had an opinion he should have given his reasoning for why he didn't like it and not just make a broad generalization as to why the episode "sucked". Personally I enjoyed the episode and hope we get another sports episode in the future!

Mathius · 12/14/2013, 08:45 PM

Quote from: guest on 12/14/2013, 08:15 PM
Quote from: Mathius on 12/14/2013, 08:05 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/14/2013, 07:54 PM
Quote from: guest on 12/14/2013, 10:04 AMThe Sports episode sucked no offense. Who gives a crap about 20 year old sports games! Y'all must be running out of ideas.
Your comment is what sucks. So far in just under a week 17,946 people have cared about sports games. The accusation that we're running out of ideas was uncalled for. Seems like it was a good idea so far.
It's just his opinion, Joe. You can't please everyone.
Mathius if he had an opinion he should have given his reasoning for why he didn't like it and not just make a broad generalization as to why the episode "sucked". Personally I enjoyed the episode and hope we get another sports episode in the future!

Don't get me wrong. I think his post was cruel and borderline trolling. I was just trying to make Joe feel better.

Xak · 12/14/2013, 11:41 PM

Joe dont listen to the haters, great show regardless of what WASNT covered.

Obviously means it was a hit and a second show would be cool. I really hate Baseball games but Konamis Bottom of the 9th for ps1 is bliss. They made 3 more afterward that SUCKED BAD!!! The first one was arcade-like and so damn fun.

The batting is so fun, I prefer it to the "8bit and 16bit batting"

jeffhlewis · 12/15/2013, 12:20 AM

I don't get the unilateral nerd rage against sports games. It's almost a cliche.

Madden, despite all of its flaws, is an extremely deep, technical and rewarding game if you enjoy football. If you don't enjoy and/or understand how football is played, you probably won't enjoy it. Simple as that.

That being said, Bases Loaded 1 was a large part of my childhood - need to fire that one up again some time.

Also - Beach Spikers volleyball for the Gamecube is an absolute blast if anyone hasn't played it. It has more tasteful bewbies than DOA Beach Volleyball:

Beach Spikers Gameplay - Team Australia - Arcade Mode

Xak · 12/15/2013, 07:03 AM

Madden 93 taught me the rules of football

Tecmo Super taught me how to score.

This led to a great HS football career. lol, we won 3 games in 4 years. We played against the best schools in the S. Fla district that get to go to colleges, so we didnt suck , we were just outmatched.

ccovell · 12/15/2013, 07:47 AM

Quote from: jeffhlewis on 12/15/2013, 12:20 AMI don't get the unilateral nerd rage against sports games. It's almost a cliche.

For me, it's the fact that no matter the country, if you go to your typical used game / pawn shop, you've got to sift through loads of unwanted sports games in order to find the remaining 10% of stuff that is good.

Mathius · 12/15/2013, 08:17 AM

Quote from: ccovell on 12/15/2013, 07:47 AM
Quote from: jeffhlewis on 12/15/2013, 12:20 AMI don't get the unilateral nerd rage against sports games. It's almost a cliche.
For me, it's the fact that no matter the country, if you go to your typical used game / pawn shop, you've got to sift through loads of unwanted sports games in order to find the remaining 10% of stuff that is good.

This makes me wonder why used game stores still buy old EA sports games since they usually just sit and rot.

esteban · 12/15/2013, 08:57 AM

Quote from: Mathius on 12/15/2013, 08:17 AM
Quote from: ccovell on 12/15/2013, 07:47 AM
Quote from: jeffhlewis on 12/15/2013, 12:20 AMI don't get the unilateral nerd rage against sports games. It's almost a cliche.
For me, it's the fact that no matter the country, if you go to your typical used game / pawn shop, you've got to sift through loads of unwanted sports games in order to find the remaining 10% of stuff that is good.
This makes me wonder why used game stores still buy old EA sports games since they usually just sit and rot.

It varies by country, but there are ordinances preventing resellers from abandoning sports games (computer/console/handheld), boy bands (CD/vinyl/8-track) and books by Paula Dean (hardcover/softcover).

ToyMachine78 · 12/15/2013, 10:07 AM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/14/2013, 07:54 PM
Quote from: guest on 12/14/2013, 10:04 AMThe Sports episode sucked no offense. Who gives a crap about 20 year old sports games! Y'all must be running out of ideas.
Your comment is what sucks. So far in just under a week 17,946 people have cared about sports games. The accusation that we're running out of ideas was uncalled for. Seems like it was a good idea so far.

Like the other poster said. Its just my opinion. I personally love game sack, and of the many many episodes you've created, that's the first one i'd say sucked. Pretty good record if you ask me.

ccovell · 12/15/2013, 06:31 PM

Quote from: guest on 12/14/2013, 10:04 AMWho gives a crap about 20 year old sports games!

http://tecmobowl.org/

6,929 people do, for example. For ONE SINGLE GAME.

The "who cares?" line of logic is just an invitation for a flood of counterexamples.

Sure, it's your opinion, and you're entitled to it. But giving one's opinion without any concrete reasons is how 10-year-olds argue.

Mathius · 12/15/2013, 07:37 PM

Quote from: guest on 12/15/2013, 10:07 AM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/14/2013, 07:54 PM
Quote from: guest on 12/14/2013, 10:04 AMThe Sports episode sucked no offense. Who gives a crap about 20 year old sports games! Y'all must be running out of ideas.
Your comment is what sucks. So far in just under a week 17,946 people have cared about sports games. The accusation that we're running out of ideas was uncalled for. Seems like it was a good idea so far.
Like the other poster said. Its just my opinion. I personally love game sack, and of the many many episodes you've created, that's the first one i'd say sucked. Pretty good record if you ask me.

If you want to use some constructive criticism and give a fair analysis of Joe, Dave, and Jen's hard work then by all means say it. Don't act like a pre-teen as it'll only make you look bad.

Mathius · 12/15/2013, 07:59 PM

Quote from: esteban on 12/15/2013, 08:57 AM
Quote from: Mathius on 12/15/2013, 08:17 AM
Quote from: ccovell on 12/15/2013, 07:47 AM
Quote from: jeffhlewis on 12/15/2013, 12:20 AMI don't get the unilateral nerd rage against sports games. It's almost a cliche.
For me, it's the fact that no matter the country, if you go to your typical used game / pawn shop, you've got to sift through loads of unwanted sports games in order to find the remaining 10% of stuff that is good.
This makes me wonder why used game stores still buy old EA sports games since they usually just sit and rot.
It varies by country, but there are ordinances preventing resellers from abandoning sports games (computer/console/handheld), boy bands (CD/vinyl/8-track) and books by Paula Dean (hardcover/softcover).

That's the first time I have ever heard of those ordinances. But it kinda makes sense.

BlueBMW · 12/15/2013, 09:31 PM

PCengineFX is just a bunch of cuddle bugs. <3 <3 <3

Xak · 12/16/2013, 01:27 AM

On my 5th season (2010) of NFL2k5 ... For the first time ever I got two losses in a season, and so early at 3-2. Went on to 9-2. Bills lead the leauge with Peyton Manning at 10-1 power ranked.

My division is by far the toughest, I was last place at one point and the Saints and Panthers were 6-0 each. For some reason the AFC dosnt have many winning teams or teams with good records period.

Ten year old game looks this good, and its still better than all the new maddens (not graphically of course though,but ANIMATION-wise, YES) reason.... SEGA , thats why the f***. Not only that, the controls are SO FLUID and more realistic compared to the latest madden where the players feel like Im playing a hockey game. In 2K sudden changes in direction causes your player to cut (like you would in real grass with CLEATS ON). Madden you just SLIDE to the other direction no fluidity, bad animation, even WORSE presentation, 2K looks like a real game broadcast.

SuperDeadite · 12/16/2013, 03:41 AM

Should have done Namachukei 68, Konami's little known Baseball game for the X68000. The graphics are really impressing compared to the console games of it's time (1993).

ToyMachine78 · 12/16/2013, 01:46 PM

Man... talking about 10 year olds and pre teens.... Some of you people are as sensitive as menopausal women. Lightnen up. These are JUST video games!

.... Who cares about the atrocities in Darfur. I'm spending all my time and mental energy to pummel you with my superior useless knowledge of 20 year old sports games.

You guys must be a hoot to get started on the Lucas mods to star wars. It would be like watching a bunch of wind up toys all wound up running around bumping into one another. Lol You guys are something else!

Joe Redifer · 12/16/2013, 03:03 PM

X68K was dead at the time this episode was made But I'm happy to report that HE IS RISEN.

ccovell · 12/16/2013, 07:25 PM

Quote from: guest on 12/16/2013, 01:46 PMSome of you people are as sensitive as menopausal women.

Ladies, did you hear what he just said? 8-o

esteban · 12/17/2013, 03:07 AM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/16/2013, 03:03 PMX68K was dead at the time this episode was made But I'm happy to report that HE IS RISEN.

Praise the Lorde.

TR0N · 12/22/2013, 03:25 AM

Game Sack - Homebrews, Hacks & Demos

EvilEvoIX · 12/22/2013, 05:34 AM

Great video once again. Joe I just saw the Vid of the TG16 killing you, you've been at this for a while. Good stuff.

Mathius · 12/24/2013, 10:59 AM

A delicious episode.

Merry Christmas Joe, Dave, and Jen!

Nazi NecroPhile · 12/24/2013, 11:59 AM

No Implode or Meteor Blaster DX?

Xak · 12/25/2013, 07:00 PM

RASICM!!! DEJAP TRANSLATIONS = RACIST

according to overly sensitive people.

Joe Redifer · 12/26/2013, 01:52 AM

I don't have Implode or Meteor Blaster DX. I barely even know what they are. I think I remember some older super-simplistic Turbo homebrews but the likes of Mysterious Song and Insanity blew them away on every level. Are they freely available to download to my Turbo Everdrive?

esteban · 12/26/2013, 06:13 AM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/26/2013, 01:52 AMI don't have Implode or Meteor Blaster DX. I barely even know what they are. I think I remember some older super-simplistic Turbo homebrews but the likes of Mysterious Song and Insanity blew them away on every level. Are they freely available to download to my Turbo Everdrive?

Scandalous.

You can correct this by making a mini-episode covering both games AND featuring a segment where you dance to the awesome tunes. I am not joking: justice must be served. Sadly, this was not the scene at your home recently:

Nazi NecroPhile · 12/26/2013, 10:32 AM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/26/2013, 01:52 AMI don't have Implode or Meteor Blaster DX. I barely even know what they are. I think I remember some older super-simplistic Turbo homebrews but the likes of Mysterious Song and Insanity blew them away on every level. Are they freely available to download to my Turbo Everdrive?

Both games are at least worth looking at and offer a hell of a lot more entertainment than a test cart or watching a two minute demo; Implode is admittedly pretty basic, but Meteor Blaster DX has more going on (high scores, cut scenes, power-ups, and shields) than what's in Insanity.

A no frills version of Meteor Blaster (non-DX) is available for download here.

Joe Redifer · 12/26/2013, 03:17 PM

Esteban (yes that's right I capitalized it) I like how I get a completely different image when I click on your posted image. First shows Turbo gifts and the click through shows Turbo peril.

I don't think Meteor Blaster DX is supported any more. I just tried to order it through their TurboZone Direct link and for some weird reason the site's just not there. Hmmmm....

CrackTiger · 12/26/2013, 03:54 PM

Quote from: Xak on 12/25/2013, 07:00 PMRASICM!!! DEJAP TRANSLATIONS = RACIST

according to overly sensitive people.

"JAP" is racist and against the forum rules.

Nazi NecroPhile · 12/26/2013, 03:59 PM

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 12/26/2013, 03:17 PMI don't think Meteor Blaster DX is supported any more. I just tried to order it through their TurboZone Direct link and for some weird reason the site's just not there. Hmmmm....

Ha! Did you order a model instead?

You can get 'em from MindRec's store - $10 for Implode, $20 for Meteor Blaster DX (recent pressed version), or $27 for both.

bob · 12/26/2013, 04:04 PM

is there anyplace to download episodes and watch off-line instead of YouToooob?
I would love to package some up for the flights I am taking in a couple weeks.

DragonmasterDan · 12/26/2013, 05:47 PM

Quote from: galam on 12/26/2013, 04:04 PMis there anyplace to download episodes and watch off-line instead of YouToooob?
I would love to package some up for the flights I am taking in a couple weeks.

Get Firefox, this plugin for Firefox https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/download-youtube/

And VLC to play the videos back in once you download them from youtube.