Ebay Caution: scam/repro seller "thewarriorsedgegaming"

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Makes me look bad in my eyes as people are thinking it is real and i made the damn fake.

It ain't you, it's the seller.  Your stuff is easily recognizable as unoriginal, so it's all on them to accurately describe it and not feign ignorance; this isn't any different than a seller that "didn't notice" a big scratch on a game disc, a missing page in the manual, etc.

[escarioth]

its like ... making a gun doesnt make you the killer....
the person that use it is the real culprit 

[GreatBlue Swirlof99]

Wow this is good to know, thanks Nulltard! BTW how do I know if something is fake?

[bob]

Wow this is good to know, thanks Nulltard! BTW how do I know if something is fake?

if it says "CARE4DATA" on the inner ring, its legit. 

[PCEngineHell]

I just dont want to think Keith would do something like that. It would be totally out of character for him.

[GreatBlue Swirlof99]

Wow this is good to know, thanks Nulltard! BTW how do I know if something is fake?

Legit items were printed with banana scented "scratch and sniff" ink.

They also don't say "this is a copy - not original" on them.

Ok...but visually since I can't go over to that guy and smell his games (never thought I d ever say that!)?

[esteban]

I just dont want to think Keith would do something like that. It would be totally out of character for him.

Keith could even lie to us (some bullshit about not looking it over carefully) and we would *want* to forgive him. (I'd be more willing to pardon him if he admitted to unethical behavior. Otherwise, I'd always be wondering if he was a scammer—with my hunch on "scammer").

However, no matter what he says, this is damn shady.

Plus, the fact that he was contacted via eBay about the tray insert was a chance to set things straight.

Damn.

[PCEngineHell]

Ikr?

[PCEngineHell]

/keith_zpsgxszl3jn.png

Keith, you were here, but you got nothing to say about this MM3 thing?

[Sadler]

Have anyone PMed him?

If I were in KC's shoes I'd be using massive amounts of caution approaching this thread. I don't blame him for taking a while to respond, even if this was a simple misunderstanding.

[Sparky]

[NightWolve]

Ha!

[Sadler]

[CGQuarterly]

It's possible that he just isn't checking this thread.  You guys should PM him to point him here.

[sirhcman]

lol sparky! that gif had me rolling!!!

[GreatBlue Swirlof99]

The Lola in this

[Keith Courage]

Seriously guys...... I clearly put that I didn't know if the things were original in the ebay auction. What more does one need to say? The winning buyer also knows that the case and everything else included besides the disc is most likely not original. We had spoken about it prior in ebay messages. The map, case, and disc I had bought online over 3 years ago. So I did not get them from Sparky 1st hand and is  unknown to me if they were from him. The instruction manual is indeed a sparky label which I got from him through these forums and is why I mentioned it as being not original.

Didn't even know about this thread until now. NightWolve brought it to my attention. Been to busy with PCE repairs to read through the forums as much as I'd like to these days.

Sparky, I know I did buy a rear insert from you at one point for might and magic III as well. That particular insert is still in my copy of the game that I still own.

I also sold a copy of Dungeon explorer II a while ago in which case I also disclosed that the insert/sparky label was not original http://www.ebay.com/itm/111516127737

I never got a Magical Chase insert from Sparky and I still own my copy of Exile Wicked Phenomenon in which I did get a repro outer case sleeve from Sparky for in case anyone was wondering.

Sorry if selling these offended you in any way Sparky. I just didn't have a use for the games anymore and figured why not include the inserts rather then leave the games naked without one

[Opethian]

[SignOfZeta]

I think we'd all be happier people if we decided we just didn't give a shit about this kind of stuff.


...but then people don't pay hundreds of dollars for games they don't care about so...

[Nazi NecroPhile]

Sexy overpriced games make me CREAM my pants.

[o.pwuaioc]

I vote not guilty.

[PCEngineHell]

I say we take off and braam the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

/braam_zpspvuj6ma9.png

[sirhcman]

Is sparky cool with his repros going to outsiders though? Isn't that the reason why he has a post count minimum here for people to get certain reproductions from him? Keith may have meant no harm but the guy who bought it could turn around then sell the repro as legit, just saying.

[PCEngineHell]

A more troubling aspect of all of this is that its becoming more and more a situation of guilty until proven innocent around here. And for some people, proving you're innocent is becoming harder and harder to do. Some people are not willing to give benefit of doubt.

[schweaty]

A more troubling aspect of all of this is that its becoming more and more a situation of guilty until proven innocent around here. And for some people, proving you're innocent is becoming harder and harder to do. Some people are not willing to give benefit of doubt.

totally agree with this.  there is a "holier-than-thou" attitude that has taken hold.  i find myself falling into it as well.  its become my first reaction to shady (or just potentially shady) behavior.   the end result is that even if someone makes an honest mistake or if they make a poorly judged decision, that one event or act is held against them forever.  regardless of the contributions to the community they may have made.

[Nazi NecroPhile]

I wasn't too worried about Keith.  You can see that the insert wasn't one of Sparky's (no disclaimer), and why would he bring their legitimacy into question if he was trying to pull a fast one?

[wildfruit]

I call that facebook trial. People post unevidenced allegations and 10000 people chime in with no knowledge whatsoever of the facts. FB is ripe for that shite.

[PCEngineHell]

I wasn't too worried about Keith.  You can see that the insert wasn't one of Sparky's (no disclaimer), and why would he bring their legitimacy into question if he was trying to pull a fast one?

Exactly. I just didn't see Keith tossing his rep away over $150 bucks. I understand Sparky and others concerns, but it just didn't make enough sense to me. And it should be noted that Sparky wasnt accusing Keith, he was just disclosing the fact that Keith got inserts from him prior as a reply to the posting of the auction. Sparky has been put into a position where he feels guilty about this stuff now after the Madboom/Ninja mess and feels responsible. And no matter what anyone says, Sparky is going to continue to feel responsible for something that isnt even remotely his fault.

[esteban]

I wasn't too worried about Keith.  You can see that the insert wasn't one of Sparky's (no disclaimer), and why would he bring their legitimacy into question if he was trying to pull a fast one?

Exactly. I just didn't see Keith tossing his rep away over $150 bucks. I understand Sparky and others concerns, but it just didn't make enough sense to me. And it should be noted that Sparky wasnt accusing Keith, he was just disclosing the fact that Keith got inserts from him prior as a reply to the posting of the auction. Sparky has been put into a position where he feels guilty about this stuff now after the Madboom/Ninja mess and feels responsible. And no matter what anyone says, Sparky is going to continue to feel responsible for something that isnt even remotely his fault.

But that is to Sparky's credit. He wants to help "us" (I haven'd purchased labels from him...yet), without helping LeBay sellers.

Sparky has had mixed feelings for a long time, and, I think he will continue to have mixed feelings. Thankfully, it doesn't seem as if Sparky's labels are causing massive problems (I am sure his spine labels are in circulation, unbeknownst to subsequent owners/sellers).

I am not too worried.

His services have had an overall positive effect (for is), despite the known/unknown scams/ignorance about repro labels/inserts/etc.

[PCEngineHell]

Yes, very much to his credit, and I hate to see that this mess has bothered him so for it. He is a great guy who has been doing a lot here for people for a long time. That is what kinda burns me about so much about Madboom and Ninja, basically taking Sparks good will and eagerness to help a forum member and spitting on it to make a few extra bucks. Speaking of which, can those two assholes be banned for this mess? Pretty sure I asked it before, but hey, why not ask again?

[Sparky]

Sorry if selling these offended you in any way Sparky. I just didn't have a use for the games anymore and figured why not include the inserts rather then leave the games naked without one

No man, you explained yourself and I believe you,  I should of pm'd ya first, but I was jaded with madboom and ninja and your name did not register with me, we have not crossed paths much so I assumed the worst. My apologies, I listed what I knew with what you bought and left it at that.

Prof and Esteban....... Hugs (( reach around for Estée))

[ToyMachine78]

yay! Let's face it... Without you two, half of us wouldn't have functioning consoles, or decent packaged games

[xcrement5x]

A more troubling aspect of all of this is that its becoming more and more a situation of guilty until proven innocent around here. And for some people, proving you're innocent is becoming harder and harder to do. Some people are not willing to give benefit of doubt.

Seriously, and the mob justice people are meting out on the internet for perceived slights, tweets, or some random thing is really out of hand.  It's amazing how if one small thing is picked up and taken in by the internet at large you can easily get death threats, fired from your job or all sorts of other things.