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This is one of the GREATEST games of ALL time! It's fun, addictive, and it's NEVER boring, no matter HOW many times you've played it! Oh boy, wish I could time travel back to 1989 to play the original arcade cabinet and see the game in its prime, because I was only 2 years old when Strider first came out.

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Tatsujin

great game but the gameplay was kinda awful.
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CrackTiger

Its very popluar, but not for me. :)
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

Kitsunexus

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It's cool for the first 30 seconds, but gets old FAST. The logo art (second pic) is cool though, for a time it was my MP3 player's wallpaper.

Capcom Classics Collection Remixed for PSP has the original Strider in arcade-perfect form, but I really wish it had Strider 2. Now THAT is a good game.

On a side note, that computer running the Strider 2 video must be an HP Pavillion a1007w like mine, it certainly stutters the same.  :wink:
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Tatsujin

The PSone Strider Hiryû collection also shows up with the strider 1 & 2 arcade perfect ports.

strider 2 brings great action and gameplay but an awfull eye cancer optic.
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Kitsunexus

Quote from: Tatsujin on 09/02/2007, 03:00 AMThe PSone Strider Hiryû collection also shows up with the strider 1 & 2 arcade perfect ports.

strider 2 brings great action and gameplay but an awfull eye cancer optic.
Sprites+3D PWNS THE CRAP out of 90's polygons...
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Joe Redifer

Strider 2 was 90's polygons.

I like Strider, it's fun to play.  Certainly not the greatest game evar but it has many moments that I enjoy.  I think if there were a better PC Engine version, more of you would enjoy it.

esteban

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 09/02/2007, 05:27 AMI like Strider, it's fun to play.  Certainly not the greatest game evar but it has many moments that I enjoy.  I think if there were a better PC Engine version, more of you would enjoy it.
I still enjoy Strider, despite all the naysayers who say it hasn't aged well (I'm talking to you, Emeril Rockette! :) ).
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Turbo D

I like strider, its a classic  :)
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Kitsunexus

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 09/02/2007, 05:27 AMStrider 2 was 90's polygons.
With sprites for Hiryu and the enemies.
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CrackTiger

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 09/02/2007, 05:27 AMStrider 2 was 90's polygons.

I like Strider, it's fun to play.  Certainly not the greatest game evar but it has many moments that I enjoy.  I think if there were a better PC Engine version, more of you would enjoy it.
Back before I'd ever tried a TurboGrafx-16, I rented Strider on Genesis and didn't like it. We never got Strider or Ghould N Ghosts arcades in my home town, so it wasn't like "OMG! I can finally play the arcade at home!", it was just another game. GnG was cool enough, even though I still prefer the first game.

A decent PCE port of Strider would be neat and I'd play through it every once in a while (like I do the MD & ACD versions anyway) but it wouldn't change my feelings about the game.

I do agree that if a killer-awesome port had been made for PC Engine, a few more people might like it. But its not like everyone loves Forgotten Worlds, Dynasty Warriors or Chiki Chiki Boys.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

SignOfZeta

The best Strider game is Osman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osman_(arcade_game)

Why there isn't a super rare $280 copy of this for Saturn on eBay right now is beyond me. It would have been so at home there. I love this game.
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Keranu

I used to not like this game for awhile (loved it when I was a kid, but later learned to not appreciate the controls), but now and days I've learned to like it more.
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GUTS

Strider fucking rules, awesome game all around.

Ceti Alpha

QuoteI used to not like this game for awhile (loved it when I was a kid, but later learned to not appreciate the controls), but now and days I've learned to like it more.
Yeah, I remember a friend of mine had Strider for the Genesis and being impressed with the graphics, but rather underwhelmed with the controls. Other than the MAME version, I also have the NES version that came with a 3 in 1 game for the Game Boy Advanced (Strider, Mighty Final Fight, Bionic Commando- I freakin' love that game!). Actually the NES version of Bionic Commando destroys the arcade version. One of the rare exceptions I guess.
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rag-time4

Quote from: ceti alpha on 09/17/2007, 02:52 PM
QuoteI used to not like this game for awhile (loved it when I was a kid, but later learned to not appreciate the controls), but now and days I've learned to like it more.
Yeah, I remember a friend of mine had Strider for the Genesis and being impressed with the graphics, but rather underwhelmed with the controls. Other than the MAME version, I also have the NES version that came with a 3 in 1 game for the Game Boy Advanced (Strider, Mighty Final Fight, Bionic Commando- I freakin' love that game!). Actually the NES version of Bionic Commando destroys the arcade version. One of the rare exceptions I guess.
Ceti, I think there are quite a few examples of NES home versions having deeper gameplay then the arcade versions...

Ikari Warriors 2 is a personal favorite. The NES versions has shops you can go in, which I don't believe are in the arcade version... though the arcade version does have the rotating controller....

And how about Contra? The NES version is actually quite a bit longer, I believe. In the arcade, the last few NES levels sort of run together, whereas in the NES version everything is more spread out.

Keranu

Yeah I agree, I think there are quite a few NES ports that are better than the arcade original.
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rag-time4

#17
 :-k Thinking more about this.... I think Punch-Out is pretty even....

The NES version has Mike Tyson and King Hippo, but the Arcade version has that nice announcer that pisses my mom off! BODYBLOW! BODYBLOW!  :lol: :lol:

There used to be an arcade with Punch Out in a mall near where I live.... My mom took me there like once, and watched me play punch out.

She still remembers the announcer, and it was like 18-19 years ago!

Every once in a while she complains about it, and I can't help but bust up laughing inside!!  :lol: :evil: :lol:

Joe Redifer

I think Hyru's graphics are far better on the Genesis than in the arcade.  The arcade Hiryu has a retarded black outline that makes him look lame.  Only the Genesis is powerful enough to not have the black line.  Thank God for the Genesis' unlimited power.

QuoteI do agree that if a killer-awesome port had been made for PC Engine, a few more people might like it. But its not like everyone loves Forgotten Worlds, Dynasty Warriors or Chiki Chiki Boys.
Forgotten Worlds is decent (not fantastic by any means).  The other games are just ass.

CrackTiger

Quote from: Joe Redifer on 09/17/2007, 05:49 PMI think Hyru's graphics are far better on the Genesis than in the arcade.  The arcade Hiryu has a retarded black outline that makes him look lame.  Only the Genesis is powerful enough to not have the black line.  Thank God for the Genesis' unlimited power.
I also think the Genesis Hyru sprite art looks nicer than the arcade. But I think also liked the NES sprite better than the arcade too last time I checked. :P
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!

TurboXray

QuoteI think Hyru's graphics are far better on the Genesis than in the arcade.  The arcade Hiryu has a retarded black outline that makes him look lame.  Only the Genesis is powerful enough to not have the black line.  Thank God for the Genesis' unlimited power.
I agree, but the improvement ends there. The rest of the game looks like ass in comparison to the arcade ;)  Ok..maybe not *ass*, but....

 I played Strider in it's prime at the local 7-11. They always had 4 arcade systems and would swap them out on a regular basis. R-Type, Strider, and SF2 lasted a good amount of time at the store. I spent every quarter I could there. Hehe - I even keep the dollar my father gave me to get the Sunday paper to spend on the arcades, then picking up a paper off somebodies lawn on the way home :D  (I eventually got caught when I couldn't find a paper to snag...  :x).

 I loved Strider in the arcades, but for some reason I wasn't as excited when my friend got the game. I borrowed it, played it, beat it - multiple times, but never bought the game.  R-Type was a different story.

Keranu

Quote from: TurboXray on 09/17/2007, 08:14 PMI played Strider in it's prime at the local 7-11. They always had 4 arcade systems and would swap them out on a regular basis. R-Type, Strider, and SF2 lasted a good amount of time at the store. I spent every quarter I could there. Hehe - I even keep the dollar my father gave me to get the Sunday paper to spend on the arcades, then picking up a paper off somebodies lawn on the way home :D  (I eventually got caught when I couldn't find a paper to snag...  :x).
Ahh, gotta love arcade stories!
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GUTS

The Genesis version of Strider is definitely good, but remember how all the mags were saying it was "arcade perfect" back in the day?  That game is most definitely not anywhere near arcade perfect.  It's a great port for the time, but what the fuck were the mags thinking?

TR0N

Quote from: rag-time4 on 09/17/2007, 04:50 PM:-k Thinking more about this.... I think Punch-Out is pretty even....

The NES version has Mike Tyson and King Hippo, but the Arcade version has that nice announcer that pisses my mom off! BODYBLOW! BODYBLOW!  :lol: :lol:

There used to be an arcade with Punch Out in a mall near where I live.... My mom took me there like once, and watched me play punch out.

She still remembers the announcer, and it was like 18-19 years ago!

Every once in a while she complains about it, and I can't help but bust up laughing inside!!  :lol: :evil: :lol:
Btw you should show her this then  :wink:
I like both version of po i play the arcade version in mame once in a while.

I remember when i tried playing punch out as a kid at the local putt,putt&games.

Of corse i just suck at the game so much then.
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Kitsunexus

#24
Yeah that arcade announcer is better than the NES's crap attempt at formant synthesis.  That's also some impressive scaling in the logo there. Of course the NES version has "the song".

On the same subject, has anybody noticed when Mario jumps it sounds like the Oliver Twist dude? "MOOORE!?"


The BEST videogame voice, hands down though, is the Impossible Mission (C64) Dr. Atombender voice. I don't think I have to argue that.

"Another visitor! Stay awhile. STAY FOREVER!"

"Destroy him, my robots!"

The same speech synthesis was used when your hero dies.

But pretty much any speech on the C64 was impressive. http://www.the-commodore-zone.com/articlelive/articles/1/2/Speech-Box/Page2.html

That speech synthesizer that you hear in a lot of early techno though is a program called "SAY" for the Atari ST.
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ParanoiaDragon

Trojan & Legendary Wings are also better on the NES.
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rag-time4

Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 09/18/2007, 03:15 AMTrojan & Legendary Wings are also better on the NES.
Thanks for the recommendations... I don't think I've ever played these!

rag-time4

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Quote from: TRON on 09/18/2007, 02:42 AM
Quote from: rag-time4 on 09/17/2007, 04:50 PM:-k Thinking more about this.... I think Punch-Out is pretty even....

The NES version has Mike Tyson and King Hippo, but the Arcade version has that nice announcer that pisses my mom off! BODYBLOW! BODYBLOW!  :lol: :lol:

There used to be an arcade with Punch Out in a mall near where I live.... My mom took me there like once, and watched me play punch out.

She still remembers the announcer, and it was like 18-19 years ago!

Every once in a while she complains about it, and I can't help but bust up laughing inside!!  :lol: :evil: :lol:
Btw you should show her this then  :wink:
I like both version of po i play the arcade version in mame once in a while.

I remember when i tried playing punch out as a kid at the local putt,putt&games.

Of corse i just suck at the game so much then.
HAHAHAHA.... I'm so tempted to e-mail this!!  :lol: :-k

Quote from: Kitsunexus on 09/18/2007, 02:46 AMYeah that arcade announcer is better than the NES's crap attempt at formant synthesis.  That's also some impressive scaling in the logo there. Of course the NES version has "the song".

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By "the song", are you referring to this:
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CosMind

Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/02/2007, 05:03 PMThe best Strider game is Osman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osman_(arcade_game)

Why there isn't a super rare $280 copy of this for Saturn on eBay right now is beyond me. It would have been so at home there. I love this game.
of course, i had to look this game up after reading this.
here's a shortcut for everyone else:

ParanoiaDragon

Quote from: rag-time4 on 09/18/2007, 01:58 PM
Quote from: ParanoiaDragon on 09/18/2007, 03:15 AMTrojan & Legendary Wings are also better on the NES.
Thanks for the recommendations... I don't think I've ever played these!
No prob!  I'm actually hoping that, someday, we'll be able to take the NES version of Trojan, put it on the Turbo, & make it look graphically like the arcade version.  That's one of my dreams(with me on the music ofcoarse).  I'd also love to do the same for Contra, Super Contra, Operation C, Legendary Wings & Strider for NES.  Not to mention, I'd love to take Contra Force, redo the graphics, & make the game like a regular Contra game!
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Kitsunexus

Quote from: rag-time4 on 09/18/2007, 02:01 PM
Quote from: Kitsunexus on 09/18/2007, 02:46 AMYeah that arcade announcer is better than the NES's crap attempt at formant synthesis.  That's also some impressive scaling in the logo there. Of course the NES version has "the song".
By "the song", are you referring to this:
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OMFG! THAT'S AWESOME! I will NEVER stop loving Mario Paint, it was my first video "game", and it was and still is so awesome and incredibly fun! I would buy a CD produced with nothing but the Mario Paint music editor.

And yeah, the "fight theme" is what I'm talking about. I love this song!  The Minibosses version rules!
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Kitsunexus

Quote from: CosMind on 09/18/2007, 03:51 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/02/2007, 05:03 PMThe best Strider game is Osman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osman_(arcade_game)

Why there isn't a super rare $280 copy of this for Saturn on eBay right now is beyond me. It would have been so at home there. I love this game.
of course, i had to look this game up after reading this.
here's a shortcut for everyone else:
ROFL, that is a VERY unique intro! This game looks better than Strider, and I <3 the Batman porn music!
Forgive me, my brain is on par with the Bubble System.
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Turbo D

haha, batman pr0n music  :)
Quote from: MissaFX on 01/06/2008, 12:10 PMMy idea of gaming is a couple of friends over, a couple of drinks, a couple of medical-handrolled-game-enhancing-cigs and a glowing box you all worship.
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Alt-Nintega

Quote from: Kitsunexus on 09/19/2007, 01:43 AM
Quote from: CosMind on 09/18/2007, 03:51 PM
Quote from: SignOfZeta on 09/02/2007, 05:03 PMThe best Strider game is Osman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osman_(arcade_game)

Why there isn't a super rare $280 copy of this for Saturn on eBay right now is beyond me. It would have been so at home there. I love this game.
of course, i had to look this game up after reading this.
here's a shortcut for everyone else:
ROFL, that is a VERY unique intro! This game looks better than Strider, and I <3 the Batman porn music!
Awesome! Someone linked to my video!

Turbo D

 :o wow, cool, I hadn't noticed it was yours  :)
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Kitsunexus

This is a necro-bump, but I made peace with Strider finally. It is an awesome game. :D
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Ceti Alpha

QuoteI like Strider, it's fun to play.  Certainly not the greatest game evar but it has many moments that I enjoy.  I think if there were a better PC Engine version, more of you would enjoy it.
OK. I was just searching around on eBay and found Strider for the PCE (Arcade Card). http://cgi.ebay.ca/STRIDER-pc-engine-cd-turbo-duo-import-jp_W0QQitemZ300156169232QQihZ020QQcategoryZ4315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

So, I then went to youtube and came across a video of it. Unfortunately it's just the intro sequence, but it looks amazing.


Anyway, was I the only one left who wasn't let in on this little secret, or is this just an elaborate scheme to get my mouth watering at the thought of Strider for the PCE/Turbo.  =P~

I've gotta get my Turbo Duo modded, AND QUICK!!   :dance:

Could someone straighten me out on all this. I'm a confused ceti right now.  :-s
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rag-time4

Quote from: ceti alpha on 10/01/2007, 11:22 AM
QuoteI like Strider, it's fun to play.  Certainly not the greatest game evar but it has many moments that I enjoy.  I think if there were a better PC Engine version, more of you would enjoy it.
OK. I was just searching around on eBay and found Strider for the PCE (Arcade Card). http://cgi.ebay.ca/STRIDER-pc-engine-cd-turbo-duo-import-jp_W0QQitemZ300156169232QQihZ020QQcategoryZ4315QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

So, I then went to youtube and came across a video of it. Unfortunately it's just the intro sequence, but it looks amazing.


Anyway, was I the only one left who wasn't let in on this little secret, or is this just an elaborate scheme to get my mouth watering at the thought of Strider for the PCE/Turbo.  =P~

I've gotta get my Turbo Duo modded, AND QUICK!!   :dance:

Could someone straighten me out on all this. I'm a confused ceti right now.  :-s
Most people don't like the PC-Engine version of Strider all that much.

Personally, I haven't played it, but I would definitely like to.

You do need the Arcade card, which means your system has to have the ability to play Japanese Hucards, since the Arcade Card is Japan only (pro card or duo card)

nat

I've personally never actually tried the Turbo version since so many people hate on it.

Eventually I'll give it a chance after I've played through my long long list of "must own, must play" type games.

My feeling is that it's on Arcade Card, so it can't be that bad.

ParanoiaDragon

It's not as bad as most people make it out to be.  Yes, it could've been a hell of alot better.  The graphics, from what I've seen, are closer to the arcade version compared to the Genesis version, but it doesn't have the paralax, & when you turn around, the screen shifts over, which is annoying.  The music is fanastic, the cinemas are cool, & the extra level is really cool as well.  Ultimately, it's a great game IMHO.
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Joe Redifer

I actually really dislike the music in the PCE CD version.  And the game is just so dark (graphics-wise).

CrackTiger

I don't mind the flicker in Strider ACD, but aside from the messed up scrolling, the worst part is the bad choice of colors. The Genesis version may be completely redrawn, but its color varies between arcade faithful and just good. I still think that some things look cool in the ACD colors, but overall, its very un-PC Engine looking.
Justin the Not-So-Cheery Black/Hack/CrackTiger helped Joshua Jackass, Andrew/Arkhan Dildovich and the DildoPhiles destroy 2 PC Engine groups: one by Aaron Lambert on Facebook, then the other by Aaron Nanto!!! Him and PCE Aarons don't have a good track record together! Both times he blamed the Aarons and their staff in a "Look-what-you-made-us-do?!" manner, never himself nor his deranged/destructive/doxxing toxic turbo troll gang which he covers up for under the "community" euphemism!